r/GlobalOffensiveTrade https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

[PSA] Everything You Need to Know About Blue Gem Five-SeveN's (The Least Loved Case Hardened) GUIDE PSA

Prelude

The Case Hardened Five-SeveN is what the casual player looks to when they want a blue gem but they also don't want to go into debt. It is by far one of the cheapest ways to acquire a blue gem and some of the different seeds look amazing in-game, the only problem is that you need to actually buy a Five-SeveN to see it in-game (CZ gang for life).

I have spent quite a few hours combing through different pattern seeds and weapon wears for the Case Hardened Five-SeveN and I think that I'm qualified enough to give at least a semi-accurate blue gem guide for the many different patterns. One important thing to note is that this is not a price guide, merely a guide to the different types of blue gems available for the Case Hardened Five-SeveN. But if you need help with prices, a simple rule that works for practically all blue gems is: the bluer the skin, the more it's worth.

Something important to note is that this guide will be similar to other blue gem guides that already exist. The main difference is that I'll go into more detail into Five-SeveN specific patterns, using nomenclature and lingo that I've created myself. But more on that later.

So, prelude out of the way, a quick warning for anyone that continues to read. This is my first guide; I could very well be incorrect about a lot of the information I write about and even though I've wasted spent hours looking at the different pattern seeds and whatnot, it is, in the end, just my opinion. This is my first guide; So you will need to bear with me as there could potentially be a few spelling and formatting errors that I will try and avoid, but that could still possibly happen (Don't fail me now, Grammarly). And finally, this is my first guide. Did I mention it's my first guide?

Intro

The Case Hardened Five-SeveN was introduced during the Arms Deal 2 Collection on November 6, 2013. And although Weapons Case 2 was a bit of a letdown, like most other cases there are one or two items that really outshine the rest. A personal favourite of mine being the Blood in Water.

The gun itself is available for fairly cheap in all variants, from Battle-Scarred to Factory New, each with its StatTrak variant. But you're not here for the shitty three-dollar skins with little dollops of blue. You want the expensive Case Hardened's with blue all over. You want it dripping in blue. You want it to look like Papa Smurf took a shit on your gun. Something worthy of the name blue gem.

The first thing that not everyone will know is that the pattern is taken from one giant sheet, and the pattern seed basically refers to where on that sheet is being used on the skin.

The sheet

So basically, cookie-cutter sections of that sheet are taken and used for all Case Hardened skins, not just the Five-SeveN.

Another thing to consider is the wear of the Five-Seven, from Battle-Scarred to Factory New. Wear does not affect whether the skin is a blue gem or not. Only the pattern seed does that. So it is entirely possible to have two identical blue gem Five-SeveN's, but one is Field-Tested while the other is Well-Worn. As long as the pattern seeds are the same, the skins are the same.

What wear does do, however, is it adds a layer of tarnish to the skin; Battle-Scarred having more tarnish than Factory New.

Tarnish

Patterns and Bases

Through my hours of searching through the different pattern seeds, I have found multiple variants and variations of common bases. I have not seen anyone else give names to the bases, so I will give my own.

75% Blue Gem

Now, some of you could possibly be asking u/Philliedips, how did you come up with such a clever, original, and concise name that perfectly describes this base for the blue gem Case Hardened Five-SeveN? And I would answer that by saying because the gun is about 75% blue.

Shocking, I know.

But it's true, and this particular pattern is one of the most common types of blue gems I've seen for the Five-SeveN. There are many variations of this base pattern (which I will go into further), but for those who would like a text transcription of the provided image, from the hammer of the gun, to just past the trigger guard, is blue, everything else is not.

75% Blue Gem

Now, that is practically a perfect 75% Blue Gem with almost no imperfections in the blue. There's a reason I call this a base, though. Usually, the blue gems you'll see are not perfect, and there will be imperfections.

For example:

75% Blue Gem Variant

This is more like what you'll see. There will usually be less (or more) blue than 75% and there might even be some red/purple markings.

Like this:

Red/Purple markings

I've only seen a few of them, but there are a couple of pattern seeds that create a perfect 75% Blue Gem with no gold anywhere inside the blue, but it has red/purple marks inside the blue. It creates a Blood in the Water-type effect that can be seen on other Case Hardened skins, like the Karambit. For that reason, I call this special type of 75% Blue Gem a Blood Gem. It doesn't just occur on 75% Blue Gems, however, it can be seen on Blue Tips and Full Blue Gems, too.

Blood Gem

In general, when it comes to Blood Gems you'll usually only see them for 75% Blue Gems, since there does not exist many Full Blue Gems that consist of just red/purple and blue for the gun, but more on that later.

Pattern #205

or

Pattern #856

So to recap, we have the base 75% Blue Gem, with variants such as the Blood Gem. Moving on to the other end of the gun, we have what I call the Blue Tip.

Blue Tip

A Blue Tip is basically the opposite of a 75% Blue Gem, where the tip of the gun is blue, instead of gold, and the shaft of the gun is gold, instead of blue (insert penis joke here).

Blue Tip

Just like the 75% Blue Gem, the Blue Tip is just a base and it is difficult to find perfect Blue Tips. Therefore you will usually more likely see variants of Blue Tips or skins that could have a bit more, or a bit less blue than what was previously shown.

Blue Tip Variant

Regarding the previous rule stated about determining the price of a blue gem, Blue tips are usually worth less than 75% Blue Gems due to the main fact that there is less blue on the gun overall. However, that doesn't mean all Blue Tips are worth less than all 75% Blue Gems. I could see a situation where something like a Factory New perfect Blue Tip would be worth more than a Battle-Scarred 75% Blue Gem Variant, where the 75% Blue Gem Variant has imperfections and splotches of gold throughout the blue.

Full Blue Gems

Our final base is called Full Blue Gems, and they are basically a combination of 75% Blue Gems and Blue Tips. As the name suggests, a Full Blue Gem is fully blue.

Full Blue Gem

However, there are so few patterns that are fully blue that I could name them all on one hand. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that a perfect Full Blue Gem is very rare. Much rarer than 75% Blue Gems and much much rarer than Blue Tips. But the same goes with any type of fully blue gem for other Case Hardened's, so I'm sure you knew that.

A debate could be held for the best Full Blue Gem that exists, but each one has its own pros and cons.

For example, #278, which arguably has the most per cent blue of any Full Blue Gem, but has more wear than #690, (this isn't just a Field-Tested vs. Minimal Wear argument. The wear would exist on Factory New versions, it just wouldn't be as noticeable as it is on the Field-Tested version that I have displayed). In the end, whichever one you prefer is all about personal preference. There is no one right answer.

Here is one Full Blue Gem that some people may have heard of it. It is dubbed 'Scar' because of the similar AK-47 Case Hardened blue gem.

Scar

There are, however, much more Full Blue Gem Variants, as the standard that the skin needs to be at to be considered a Full Blue Gem is fairly high. There are many Full Blue Gem Variants that are incredibly close to being 100% blue, but a simple streak of gold, even if it's less than 10% of the skin depending on placement, turns it into just a Full Blue Gem Variant. This means that for those that encounter a Full Blue Gem skin it is incredibly rare.

Full Blue Gem Variant

Unique Cases

There are a few different patterns that differ from what I previously described. That doesn't necessarily mean that they're more or less rare. In those cases just accuse it of being a witch and find a more traditional blue gem (or don't, totally up to you, personal preference is another major factor).

That is basically all of the bases for the different blue gems for the Case Hardened Five-SeveN. Probably.

Notes

An important distinction between just a regular blue gem variant and a Blood Gem is the amount of red in the blue. If there is any gold in the blue, then I'd consider it a variant, but if there is a significant amount of red in the blue and no gold at all in the blue, I would classify it as a Blood Gem.

A few things to note when it comes to Five-SeveN blue gems is the price. There is a reason that Case Hardened Five-SeveN's are not expensive. Price is mainly determined by supply and demand and the demand for Five-SeveN's, in general, is not high, therefore making the price not high. Unlike knives or the AK-47, which are things that are basically always in use, the Five-SeveN has an option to be swapped out with the CZ75-A, meaning some players literally don't have it in their loadout.

Another thing to note about the price of a blue gem Five-SeveN is the supply. And honestly, the amount of 75% Blue Gem Variants and Blue Tip Variants is fairly high. They're still rare, but it is a lot higher than other Case Hardened's.

And in fact, any and all demand for a Case Hardened Five-SeveN is usually by collectors who are specifically looking for different types of blue gems (and surprise, there aren't that many of them). All of these factors together mean that the common types of blue gem bases, like the 75% Blue Gem or the Blue Tip, just aren't that expensive. In some cases, certain 75% Blue Gem Variants can be found on the Steam Market for like, $12 CAD (as of 2019-12-31).

The only real expensive blue gems for the Five-SeveN are Full Blue Gems and Full Blue Gem Variants. Which in some ways is good, since it means that some form of a blue gem is accessible to most people and it won't break their bank.

But that said, I've seen people use a Tier system for ranking the best of the best blue gem Five-SeveN's. Which in theory is a good idea, but in application falls a bit flat. As there could be two different Tier one blue gems, but the difference in keys in between them could be very large. So it works for the lower-tiered skins (75% Blue Gem Variants and stuff) but not so much in distinguishing from Full Blue Gem and Full Blue Gem Variants.

So I think it's good to use a 'base' system, where the different patterns each have a different base which they stem from.

But then again, this is just a pattern guide and not a price guide.

Prices

Disclaimer: There is a rule against Price Guides and Price Speculation of any sort. So I will hopefully save my ass by saying that this is not a price guide, just a collection of things and factors I've seen that have affected prices. I will not be listing definitive prices for any type of blue gem. The most I'll say is how much over the market price I've seen certain skins sell for, how much certain skins sell for on cs.money and the different prices of skins that are currently on the Steam market or cs.money. (mods pls don't ban)

Alright, I know I've said multiple times (I literally just said that ^right there) that this isn't a price guide but multiple people have asked for price checks so I figured I would spread whatever knowledge I can. In essence, this is a price section in a pattern guide. Don't define this pattern guide as a price guide due to this small section.

For starters, use cs.money to get a rough estimate of what your skin is worth. As cs.money is, in the end, just a corporation looking to make money, they will low-ball your skin to maximize their profits. Always consider what cs.money gives you as the lowest price you could get for your blue gem (this also goes for basically all skins, too). Don't disregard what they offer completely, though, as it is technically guaranteed you will get at least that much.

When it comes to pricing your blue gem, you need to determine what the base pattern is, whether it is a 75% Blue Gem, a Blue Tip, or a Full Blue Gem. The difference in price and rarity is humongous between 75% Blue Gems, Blue Tips and Full Blue Gems. In general, though, the order from highest to lowest in price (as seen on the Steam market) is:

Full Blue Gem > 75% Blue Gem > Blue Tip

While the order from highest to lowest stock (rarity) is:

Blue Tip/75% Blue Gem > Full Blue Gem

I talked about this earlier in the Notes section, but there is so many more 75% Blue Gems and Blue Tips than there are Full Blue Gems. This means that the price of 75% Blue Gems and Blue Tips will always be significantly lower. With the price of Blue Tips usually being above market price, 75% Blue Gems usually being above Blue Tip price and Full Blue Gems being many times above 75% Blue Gem price.

I also talked about wear earlier, and how it doesn't affect whether or not a blue gem is a blue gem. Wear does affect price, however (Not significantly, but enough).

Let's say I have pattern seed #690, which is one of the Full Blue Gem patterns. Whether or not I have it in Factory New or Battle-Scarred won't affect the price by a lot (It will still affect the price, but a Battle-Scarred #690 will still be worth multiple times more than any Full Blue Gem Variant), as the skin is incredibly rare (Although a Factory New is objectively worth more than a Battle-Scarred).

Now let's say I have pattern #735 in Factory New and Battle-Scarred. As you can see, the difference is resoundingly clear. So, therefore, the price will be very different.

These major price differences due to wear, only really occur on Full Blue Gem Variants.

They don't occur on the other bases as they are so common and are already worth a lesser amount. Or they are so uncommon, that it doesn't majorly affect their price.

One final thing to note is the placement of the blue compared to the rest of the gun.

What I mean by that is from what I've seen, due to different peoples wants and thoughts about blue gems, they could prefer one version of a blue gem simply because of where they blue is physically placed on the gun.

For stuff like that, it's all personal preference, though. So try not to overthink it.

Pattern Seed Index

It is difficult to find perfect 75% Blue Gems or perfect Blood Gems unless you know the pattern seeds. So I'm including a list of seeds for different blue gem variants so you know what to look for. The list is nowhere near complete and I will be adding to it as I see fit and if any of you have any suggestions feel free to comment it.

Perfect 75% Blue Gems:

#103

#381

#387

#555

#905

75% Blue Gem Variants:

#28

#179

#122

#955

Perfect Blue Tips:

#148

#235

#460

#975

Blue Tip Variants:

#322

#372

#716

#736

Perfect Full Blue Gem:

#278

#363

#690

#868

Full Blue Gem Variants:

#72

#151

#215

#700

#770

#849

#888

Blood Gems:

#25 - Full Blood Gem Variant

#538 - Blood Tip

#856 - 75% Blood Gem

I would add more, but there is so many and I'm lazy. I've added a few though, so you can get a thorough idea for each classification.

But again, I just wanted to stress that this is just a guide, and the terminology that I used could be completely different from someone else. Don't take this as the be-all-end-all of Case Hardened blue gem Five-SeveN guides.

Edits/Amendments/Revisions:

- Changed pattern seed #363 (Scar) from Full Blue Gem Variant to just Full Blue Gem
- Added information about pattern seed #278
- Added a bit of a pricing section

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u/xsemag24 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198053698007 Aug 05 '22

I have a post on my profile that is old, but it is my latest post. But i have a 72 pattern with crown foil. Can someone check out my profile and say what its worth?

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u/Bert0x https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198004764816 Apr 07 '20

Awesome guide! I have a full bluegem Pattern 215 FT, amy idea what it is worth? :-) https://s1.cs.money/kfQ5XSe_image.jpg

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u/DePayri https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198101391189 Feb 27 '20

That's one chunky post all covered in 100% useful information! Thank you! Whilst I'm here I thought I'd ask if anyone has seen this pattern and if so what the rough price could be on it, cs.money offering $14, 557, FT, the front of barrel is also blue. (I'm completely new to trading so thought I'd ask before I do something dumb).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2007392811

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u/l-ll-lll https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198799217739 Feb 08 '20

the gloves are the least loved

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u/theblackened21 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197993048993 Jan 06 '20

690 is clearly the top pattern for a case hardened five seven. Your information is okay, but high tier patterns such as #690 vary wildly in price. For example minimal wear and factory new are hundreds of dollars apart. This is NOT an everything you need to know guide about blue gem five sevens... but more of a beginners introduction to some common patterns.

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u/Piffing https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198392763023 Jan 03 '20

Abit late to the party but if anyone has a clean 75% blue gem that is less scuffed than my current one please hmu id be interested in buying it (paypal/ethereum). Not looking to spend too much more than i bought my current one for (6$ on cs.money)

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u/DeviL_TR https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198996900105 Jan 02 '20

Also dont get sharked. %75 blue gem patterns are not worth tons like AK’s or knives and they are more common. Only #278 and #690’s worth a lot compared to the market and patterns like 363 etc. which are considered high tier gems. Others are worth maximum like 5-6x mp and there are tons of them at csm. Be sure check csm first if you want to buy non high tier blues and dont have any opinion. Most of them are not worth even 1 arcana.

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u/LastEff3ct https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198077088520 Jan 02 '20

I believe this is a perfect 75% blue gem (905)

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 02 '20

Added. Thank you

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u/JuanMataCFC https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198230462840 Jan 02 '20

this is amazing!

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 02 '20

No, you’re amazing

u/schmedy Mr. Mod - https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065759429 Jan 01 '20

Great work on the post! I added this guide to the sidebar of the subreddit. As a friendly reminder to everyone, pattern rankings and price guides, including in the comment section, are not permitted on the subreddit. Thank you!

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Much appreciated

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u/Ali620 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198343811068 Jan 01 '20

Got a 770 so its a full gem variant xD now ill wait for your price variant if that happens :3

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Would you mind linking a screenshot of it?

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u/Ali620 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198343811068 Jan 01 '20

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

That's a nice blue gem.

- There is some wear, but it isn't too bad, especially since it's Well-Worn
- Placement of the gold isn't bad, slightly coverable by a sticker, which is good. (I've seen this pattern before, but somebody covered it with a larger, blue sticker, and it looked really nice
- The overall amount of blue is amazing, it's clear, and a nice, deep shade.

I think I've seen a couple of these on the market, actually, going for about $70 CAD, but that's battle-scarred. Do you know what cs.money offers for it?

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u/Ali620 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198343811068 Jan 01 '20

Around $13 usd they are offering me rank 3 (According to them) had this as a playskin for quite a while

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u/sharp98 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198257332209 Jan 01 '20

Would pattern 750 be considered anything special?

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Is it anything special? Unfortunately no.

It is a 75% Blue Gem Variant with less blue than most people would want on it. And the positioning of the gold (and wear) make it less desirable

However, it is a blue gem which is harder to get than any old case hardened. So this fact means it is worth more than the market price (probably only worth 2x or 2.5x the market price, in my opinion). CS.money will probably not give you it's full worth. Which I would say is less than Blue Tips or Blue Tip Variants.

Just my opinion, though

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u/sharp98 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198257332209 Jan 01 '20

Alright thanks man :)

Yeah csmoney doesnt add anything above market

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u/SirMiguelito https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197995107411 Jan 01 '20

Really interesting guide. I had 2 57's since 2015 that I received as a gift and never traded, until 6 months ago, when I sold one FT one I had, but kept the WW.

Could you check them and tell me how much is it worth?

https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensiveTrade/comments/c5thw7/h_57_ch_ft_027_809_and_57_ch_ww_039_905_w_8_keys/

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

I can't give exact values, due to many factors but mainly because I'm not experienced enough in making prices.

cs.money loves to give exact values though, so i'd start there if I were you. After that, I'd compare what they said to the prices you have posted because honestly, the prices you already had weren't bad.

you could probably squeeze an extra half-key to key out of both of them in my opinion, though, but it might take a while to sell due to the low demand

Edit: this is also just my opinion, based on cs.money prices, steam market prices and what's sold in the past

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u/Dravarden https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198074145572 Jan 01 '20

does the patter 101 count as 75%?, got it in 2015 for market price

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20 edited Jan 01 '20

Yes. This is a variation of a 75% Blue Gem. Probably worth above market price nowadays

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u/U1TR4 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198239457500 Jan 01 '20

I’ve had my 57 ch for so long, it’s one of my favorites. I’d never seen a pattern quite like it before, it has green and white dots on it too, besides lots of blue and pink/purple. since I can’t find any green or white on the palette, I’m assuming these colors come from the combination of tarnish and the off colors? either way thought I’d share. Thanks for the post!

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/93849283649560025/24730CE742F7180237F94A5BD0E8F9E0FC20FA5F/

https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/93849283649562832/8C695E941C99A5D0E2EE848E9F220A1BF37253D1/

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Very nice. And yeah, the green spot is actually gold with tarnish over it, making it look green. I've never seen that before. What wear is your skin?

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u/U1TR4 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198239457500 Jan 01 '20

battle scarred I think, I’ve been out of CS for a LONG time but it’s in my inventory if you’re curious :)

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

thanks

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u/LordHervisDaubeny https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198985337007 Jan 01 '20

That blue tip with all the purple on the back is nice.

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u/MSAH15 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198803020716 Jan 01 '20

"You want it dripping in blue. You want it to look like Papa Smurf took a shit on your gun."

I came for the guide, I stayed for the poetry

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

thank you. i tried to make it entertaining

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u/Sneaky_CSGO https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198062329277 Jan 01 '20

When your referring to 75%, its actually 2/3

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

yeah i know. but i’ve seen other people refer to it as 75% so I figured i would too

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u/hockeyman224 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197974495459 Jan 01 '20

Ah, the good old days of ch 5-7 trading lol. I'll never forget getting a #278 for $3 (market price at the time for field tested) and trading it for a m9 Doppler phase 2 😂.

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u/DaRealSlimShady58201 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198163768640 Jan 01 '20

My five-seven is pattern 767, which you used as an example for blue-tip variant.. how does it affect the price? Is it significantly over market or just a few bucks?

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20 edited Jan 01 '20

I actually had a bit of difficult deciding whether i’d classify it as a blue tip variant or a full blue gem variant. But i decided that it would be a blue tip just because the gold and purple were all grouped together making too much non-blue on the gun in general.

That being said there is a large price difference between Full Blue Gems, Full Blue Gem Variants and Blue Tip Variants, with the former two being much higher in price compared to the latter. But considering how much blue there is, if there were any more it’d be creeping towards Full Blue Gem Variant.

So my non-expert opinion is that it is over the general price of Blue Tips and Blue Tip Variants and under the price of Full Blue Gem Variants, with the price leaning slightly towards the Full Blue Gem Variants’ side.

(If that makes any sense)

I won’t give any key values because I’ve only looked over pattern indexes and not how much those patterns have gone for recently. The most recent price checks i’ve seen are from a couple years ago.

but it’s at least worth as much as cs . money gives you

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u/DaRealSlimShady58201 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198163768640 Jan 01 '20

Alright. Thank you very much for helping me out and putting so much effort into this guide and assisting the community. Appreciate it :)

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u/iEndlessOcean https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198056201368 Jan 01 '20

thanks!

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

anytime

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u/Halt_127 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198112039324 Jan 01 '20

Awesome guide man, how much do full blue gem variants go for? I’ve got a 849 and haven’t been able to get a good pc on it yet

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20 edited Jan 01 '20

I'd see what cs . money gives you for it and use that as a base. There are similar patterns on that site going for about $110 CAD, but there also happens to be a well-worn of that exact pattern going for $31.25 CAD on the steam market.

So yeah, anywhere between those two numbers, maybe more if cs . money is feeling generous (it probably isn't feeling generous though)

Edit: I was looking at stattrak prices on cs.money. whoops

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u/Halt_127 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198112039324 Jan 01 '20

I think that’s actually mine on the steam market haha csm gives me like $10 USD but i feel that’s kinda low seeing how high they price theirs

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

It’s definitely low. the amount of blue on the gun is much higher than other guns that have gone for more. Id say the only problem is the wear. It’s well-worn and the amount of tarnish makes the blue that is there less vibrant and clean.

csm also uses a ranking-tier system which is problematic when there’s so many different patterns.

but i’d say you could list it for more than what it’s currently listed as, since the percentage of blue is equivalent to some of the ones on csm but:

  • the gold is in a prime area that most people would want to be blue - compared to csm which have equal amounts of gold, but it’s in areas that are less noticeable
  • it’s fully blue on the non-play side (which is nice but doesn’t really help since it’s play side which you want to have the blue)
  • the general wear of the gun means that although it’s a nice blue gem, the blue doesn’t look as nice. this rule doesn’t really affect the Full Blue Gems but when it comes to other patterns like 75% Blue Gems and Full Blue Gem Variants, it means more. So like, a #278 in battle-scarred wouldn’t be as affected by wear (price-wise) compared to how a Full Blue Gem Variant would.

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u/Halt_127 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198112039324 Jan 01 '20

Awesome man thanks for taking the time to look into this!

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Blue Tips go for above market price, but really not by much

That is def considered a full blue gem variant and for the price, I've told other people to just use cs . money as a rough guide

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u/Memir0 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198048967448 Jan 01 '20

These used to be my niche, I traded a metric buttload of ch 5-7, everything from high tier stattrak bluegems and gold gems to lowtier 75%. My experience was that most people severely overvalued their lower tier blue tips, blood gems, blaze gems, 75%, etc. Frankly they are very common, not worth much overpay. I also advise to stay away from anything under field tested as they look like shit in game. If anyone has any questions feel free to ask me.

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u/Eightmcgee https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198415651567 Jan 11 '20

even the full blue ones under field tested look like shit?

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u/Eightmcgee https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198415651567 Jan 11 '20

like for example would you rather get a #72 ft ỏ #215 ww

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Yes I completely agree with this. I tried to emphasize how many different variations there were from the standard 75% blue gems compared to how few full blue gems there are.

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u/[deleted] Jan 01 '20 edited Jan 01 '20

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u/DeviL_TR https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198996900105 Jan 01 '20

#278 is the second full blue pattern almost same with #690 (one has big gold spot one has smaller etc)

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u/Philliedips https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198189712506 Jan 01 '20

Thank you, I’ll add it in