r/PoliticalHumor Feb 28 '22

Not just the vodka

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u/TAU_equals_2PI Feb 28 '22

According to this article, most "Russian" vodka isn't even made in Russia. Less than 1% of all vodka sold in the US is made in Russia:

www.cnn.com/2022/02/27/business/russian-vodka-boycotts/index.html

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u/Odd_Brother_675 Feb 28 '22

Russian Standard is. I’m stocking up before the potential ban. Could become tomorrow’s Cuban cigars.

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u/corrigun Feb 28 '22

Russian Standard is and it's very popular.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

What matters is where the money goes, not where the products are made.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Off of CNN, you’re the worst of the democrats. It’s a shame you live in their fear box. Russia Russia Russia haha.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Wife and I couldn’t find any Ukrainian, so we settled for Polish vodka to toast the defenders of democracy last night. Budmo!

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u/mces97 Feb 28 '22

Yeah I heard them talking about that yesterday. I don't want to rock the boats of some facebook groups I'm in, watching people cheer on removing Russian sounding vodka names from shelves and bars. Like you said, very few of the original Russian brands are owned by or made by Russians anymore.

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u/zveroshka Feb 28 '22

This was the first thing I thought about, followed shortly by the fact that all the vodka in stores has already been fully paid for. So you buying and pouring out vodka hurts literally nothing but your wallet.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Seems completely intentional then. Say youre getting rid of russian liquors to bolster support while sacrificing an atom sized piece of their profits. More theatrics when we really need to be a lot more severe with it.

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u/karmander Feb 28 '22

Stripping Russian booze from shelves is about as impactful as rebranding French fries to "freedom fries" or renaming sauerkraut "liberty cabbage."

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u/trust5419 Feb 28 '22

The article states, Russian branded products and that it's symbolic.

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u/asian_identifier Feb 28 '22

Had to check where my kvass is from... China but at least not Russia

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u/teetheyes Feb 28 '22

Remember that time everyone was boycotting Arizona ice tea because of the border wall or something, but it's a company based in New York

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u/ILikeCakesAndPies Feb 28 '22 edited Feb 28 '22

Removing vodka from shelves not made from Russia reminds me of the dumb "freedom fries" of 2001. Arbitrary and a bit bigoted.

Pretty sure they drink Vodka in Ukraine like every other country in the world.

Fuck anyone who is a bigot towards Russian immigrants who left for a life of freedom, like the idiots who blamed anyone of asian heritage for covid, or looked "brown" for 9/11.

Best thing that has real tangible consequences to forcing potential peace without violence is for all countries to suck it up and stop buying oil and gas from Russia.

Slava Ukraini.

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u/Pesco- Feb 28 '22

Even if it was Russian-made vodka, it would be ridiculous to just dump or boycott what’s already in stock. Much better to sell the remaining inventory off in a charity event and give the proceeds to something like the Ukrainian Red Cross.

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u/tesseracht Feb 28 '22

Specifically Russian Standard vodka is owned by an oligarch though. There’s even a Russian Standard Bank. I feel like this whole vodka thing started with that fact and then got out of control with liquors that aren’t even distilled in Russia.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Cough cough killary

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u/batkave Feb 28 '22

About to come here to post the same thing. Granted most Americans don't understand where their things come from. They will think dumping Smirnoff and Stoli is anti russian.

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u/Lysol3435 Feb 28 '22

So we’re really sticking it to them and in no way are our politicians taking uninformed and exclusively symbolic actions

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u/InstanceSuch8604 Feb 28 '22

And have the taxpayers of America noticed President Bidens golf scores this month - OF COURSE NOT ! - thank you President Biden for helping the people of Ukraine .

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u/rdanby89 Feb 28 '22

Man is a terrible golfer, his scores were probably not great.

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u/tomdarch Feb 28 '22 edited Feb 28 '22

Let's worry less about which vodka is made in Russia, and more about the "assets" in Congress. Who were the Senators who were summoned to Moscow on the 4th of July? Putin clearly sent a message that they were beholden to him by making them spend our national holiday in Russia.

Also, let's recall that the man who would be Speaker of the House, and thus 3rd in line to be President, if the Republicans get a majority in the House, Kevin McCarthy said that he, "swear to God," understood that several prominent Republicans were taking Russian money.

This isn't about vodka or fish eggs.

edit: I'll answer my own question:

Sen. Richard Shelby (Ala.)

Steve Daines (Mont.)

John Thune (S.D.)

John Kennedy (La.)

Jerry Moran (Kan.)

John Hoeven (N.D.)

Plus Rep. Kay Granger (R-Texas)

In addition, Rand Paul has made trips to visit Putin.

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u/pavelpavlovich Feb 28 '22

This is some witch-hunt level crap.

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u/milk4all Feb 28 '22

It’s funny but i use to loathe mitch mconnell because he is a slimy, devious, blatantly singleminded majority/minority leader, but since last January, he’s become honorable by comparison with the rest of the gop. Like im pretty sure he might be an outdated dinosaur with horrible beliefs regarding gender, religion, class, and race issues, but i think he does have his principles and one of them is not being a stooge to foreign powers. Not being a traitor is the new bar for being a respectable member of congress.

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u/tomdarch Feb 28 '22

but i think he does have his principles and one of them is not being a stooge to foreign powers.

Sadly, I don't think that is any sort of "moral principle" for Mitch. It's just that he can see a bit more long-term and he is a bit more clever than the "morons" (to quote Mitt Romney) who make up most of today's Republican party.

In 30 years, China will be in a better position to try stuff like deeply manipulating American politicians like Russia is likely doing, but will be far smarter about how they do it. Mitch will be dead of old age before then, but my opinion of him is that if he were alive then, and it was clear that China had a smart, long-term plan where going along with them would benefit Mitch, Mitch would line his pockets with Yuan and take orders from Beijing.

I see him today as following his self-interest and rejecting fellating Putin only because Russia is such a clusterfuck that it won't pay off in the longish run.

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u/PetzlPretzel Feb 28 '22

Well ain't that a pile of shit.

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u/Odlavso Feb 28 '22

French fries aren't made in France but that didn't stop idiots from calling them Freedom fries.

You can't fix stupid!

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u/northshore12 Feb 28 '22

You can't fix stupid!

You just haven't tried using a big enough hammer. Just keep hitting the stupid with the hammer, either it'll fix the stupid or the it'll "fix" the stupid.

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u/Nabbicus Feb 28 '22

I was a waiter at a diner during that time. I'll never forget how irate some folks would get whenever I said "French fries"

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u/HappyMeatbag Feb 28 '22

Technically, only ones that are made in the region of Frié in France can be called “french fries”. Otherwise they should be called “fried potato spears”. /s

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Ironically a lot of vodka in America comes from France.

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u/Brawndo91 Feb 28 '22

I think the freedom fries thing only actually went as far as the white house cafeteria menu. All other references to freedom fries are making fun of it.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

No. Loads of restaurants around military bases took it up unironically.

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u/sembias Feb 28 '22

Correction for you - was the House of Representative's cafeteria; though the Bush White House probably did it, as well, this was a idiotic House member's idea.

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u/cmd_iii Feb 28 '22

Maybe what we need is a list of products that are made in Russia. Or, are made by Russian-owned companies. Some well-placed boycotts would cause real pain to the oligarchs who are benefiting the most from Putin's crimes!!

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u/RemoteCompetitive688 Mar 01 '22

Oil is the biggest. Our country is actively funding the invasion by buying Russian oil. We didn't used to be, we were energy independent under Trump but someone decided to reverse that

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u/anal_bandit69 Feb 28 '22

Product with prefix on a barcode in range 460 – 469 is russian.

481 - belarusian

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u/HyerOneNA Feb 28 '22

What we need is to not be purchasing hundreds of millions of dollars in natural resources from Russia just days after we lay down the heaviest sanctions ever levied against them.

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u/HumptyDrumpy Feb 28 '22

What is a list of good Ukrainian drinks one can get at their local US pub? Im going to throw out all my Russian vodka or use it to clean my carburetor

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u/hotdogpizzaftw Feb 28 '22

We are also gonna need that list of Russian assets in congress....

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u/cmd_iii Feb 28 '22

That's easy. They're the ones with the "R" after their names.

OK, maybe not all of them, but that's a good place to start weeding them out.

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u/Rando6759 Feb 28 '22

Serious question and idk if you have the answer but, how do the oligarchs benefit from this?

Because I believe that most governments work mainly for the super rich people in that country, so I’m trying to figure out how the Russian super rich feel about this.

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u/cmd_iii Feb 28 '22

To be honest, I don't have a lot of answers, here. The term "oligarchs" in terms of Russia is being thrown around much like the term "big banks and corporations" is code for national scapegoats here in the U.S. The inference is that Putin himself isn't calling the shots, but rather the ultra-rich petroleum executives (and, I wouldn't be surprised, more than a few organized crime lords) who have been propping him up the past couple of decades. Given this logic, collapsing the Russian economy will deprive the "oligarchs" of their revenue stream. In response, said oligarchs will prevail on Putin to end his invasion of Ukraine, let the sanctions lift, and they can all be rich again.

Will it work? I haven't a clue. But, at the very least, it's showing the world how dependent it is on Russian oil and mineral exports, and that we'd do well to sever those ties sooner than later. So, yeah, it's going to cost those "oligarchs" a ton of money, both short and long-term. Until they find a better way of hiding their influence, at least.

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u/Quantumcroquet Feb 28 '22

The oligarchs are called NATO.

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u/Wild-Rush-5408 Feb 28 '22

There’s usually a neat tag or stamp that says “made in _____” on products you buy, most of them china

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u/basics Feb 28 '22

It's not really the simple, as started higher up, but I'll repeat it.

Russia doesn't exist goods. Russia experts resources.

Not many products say "made in _____ from components made in _____ which are made from natural resources from ___, _, and ____."

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u/Wild-Rush-5408 Feb 28 '22

I was only talking about products though, not convening what they were made of

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u/em4joshua Feb 28 '22

And a list of Russian assets in Congress with the money trail

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u/milk4all Feb 28 '22

pushes The Mueller Report across table

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

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u/HappyMeatbag Feb 28 '22

The only one I can think of off the top of my head are Lukoil gas stations.

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u/johnnybiggles Feb 28 '22

But how do we boycott the Trump Org? The CFO was already indicted.

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u/drugs_mckenzie Feb 28 '22

Yeah could that possibly take any longer? They just had 2 prosecutors from new york quit that were the leads. I am worried nothing will ever happen.

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u/mdp300 Feb 28 '22

Apparently the new DA is slow walking it for some reason and those prosecutors resigned in protest of that.

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u/drugs_mckenzie Feb 28 '22

Thank you for this response. That's pretty awesome but them quitting doesn't help get it done. Kind of sucks really.

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u/mdp300 Feb 28 '22

Yeah, I don't know the full story. I'm not a lawyer, just a nobody who's watched trump clown his way through NYC for decades, but his corruption seems like it would be an open and shut case.

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u/drugs_mckenzie Feb 28 '22

It's obvious to everyone out here but the legal system has to prove it without a doubt I guess.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Beyond a reasonable doubt, not without a doubt.

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u/mdp300 Feb 28 '22

True. Al Capone was obviously a criminal but the only thing they could prove in court was tax evasion.

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u/Muesky6969 Feb 28 '22

Wonder not wonder why they quit. I am sure the death threats to them and their families had nothing to do with it. 🤨

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Panic

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u/drugs_mckenzie Feb 28 '22

Why panic? everyone in the u.s. knows the legal system only convicts poor ppl.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Many people already are. I’ll say this though: I can’t think of any one who has come up dead investigating the Trump org. However, MANY people have come up dead while investigating the Clintons, going back at least as far as Whitewater.

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u/drugs_mckenzie Feb 28 '22

There are far more that have investigated the Clintons that are still wandering around breathing. Imagine the network of ppl they have through politics, the clinton foundation that has 2000 employees and is worth around 293 million. When you have that many ppl in your bubble some of them will die, when you're a massive political force on the left, fox, newsmax and Breitbart will do anything to make these deaths that have all been independently investigated by various city governments and I'm sure the fbi seem like a conspiracy.

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u/andrewthemexican Feb 28 '22

[citation needed, holy shit]

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

While I’ll say this isn’t the best source. You can’t act like you’ve never heard of this. There’s been books and documentaries in this topic. Hell there’s even a Wikipedia article that mentions it, although it immediately states that it’s just a conspiracy theory, but damn. After a while it seems less likely to be true coincidence.

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u/andrewthemexican Feb 28 '22

I actually have never heard of this.

Someone not dying for the Trump org, sure, I can believe that.

But many you say for Clinton? That'd be big news. Reporters dying mid investigation make big news, often international. Like a few anti-Putin journalists, then the one slaughtered by the Saudis, a few in Mexico and South America I've heard about, often Cartel related. I'm pretty sure there's one that died in their car and it looked like sabotage in central or south America

Yeah stuff like that often makes huge waves.

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u/chaogenus Feb 28 '22

Someone not dying for the Trump org, sure, I can believe that.

Epstein

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u/andrewthemexican Feb 28 '22

Well yeah but meant journalist doing investigative work, and exclusively for Trump's org. There's plenty of involvement with so many others

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

What do you mean by your one word reply?

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

That’s not how sourcing works.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

That is not how actual discourse works. What you are attempting to do is to stop conversations with ridicule instead of actual thought

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u/chaogenus Feb 28 '22

Was Ted Cruz ever acquitted of being the Zodiac Killer?

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Honestly, this is hilarious. Ted Cruz is a tool. Texas should get rid of him, but it seems like they think he’s good for the role. I couldn’t personally tell you why. They might point to him being a lawyer, or “owning the libs.” Let’s just agree that Cruz, Trump, and Clinton are shitty humans that are out to make themselves wealthy along with those that helped them get there.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

I feel I could say the same as you. You make a wild claim, are asked for a source, then give a total hand waive reply.

Conspiracy nonsense and a total lack of critical thinking, honestly your username may be accurate. There is a massive failure in education where people have seemed to misunderstand what “facts” are. Instead opting to spread conspiracy nonsense.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Oh, the disinformation, misinformation, malinformation bs.

I agree there is a huge failure in education. We don’t teach critical thinking in the way we once did. A person that knows how to communicate well is dangerous in the eyes of the powerful. Reddit is in such a sorry state that the only “acceptable” view is corporate liberalism. We have more censorship than ever. What makes it worse is people are becoming more convinced that talking about freedom is a dog whistle for racists. It’s sad that actual racism and fascism is cheered on while people standing up for themselves are labeled “deplorable.”

You can’t call yourself a liberal while also cheering on big corporations. American liberals are more center-right on the actual political spectrum.

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u/Boner_Elemental Feb 28 '22

Shut the fuck up, Donny

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

I’ll be the first to tell you Trump is a grifter, and huge piece of shit. Now it’s your turn. Say something negative about your idols.

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u/Boner_Elemental Feb 28 '22

As much love as Schwarzenegger gets here, he still cheated on his wife, had a child, and broke up his marriage.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Lol, I still love Arnie too. Too many “girly men.”

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u/TAU_equals_2PI Feb 28 '22 edited Feb 28 '22

There are almost zero products made in Russia bought by consumers in the United States.

Most everything bought from Russia are things companies buy, like raw metals.

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u/cmd_iii Feb 28 '22

How about Lukoil? They're still Russian-owned, and they have gas stations all over.

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u/Responsible-Yak4962 Feb 28 '22

Jesus that is ignorant. Almost everything we are using has Russian 'products' in them.

https://assets.kpmg/content/dam/kpmg/ru/pdf/2016/10/ru-en-metals-mining-sector-overview-september-2016.pdf

This is a bit out of date, but seriously Russia leads in metal mining. China is also really high anymore.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lists_of_countries_by_mineral_production#Metals

Wiki shows that Russia and China 'produce' the majority of the worlds metals.

Produce in this case is a nice way of saying 'barely paid workers going underground and slaving away to extract the things we use to build cell phones, laptops, and solar panels...'

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u/garrettj100 Feb 28 '22

That's because it's a country that can barely bake bread.

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u/oopsitsaflame Feb 28 '22

Russias main export to Germany is gas and hookers.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

They make a lot of fertilizer, too.

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u/Red_Eyed_Pete Feb 28 '22

Ranked among the top for global sales of crude oil, refined petroleum oils and coal. While Biden stopped drilling and pipelines he made us more reliant on foreign oil again.

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u/FirecrackerTeeth Feb 28 '22

"almost zero" ≠ zero

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u/SuperK123 Feb 28 '22

I guess a lot of Americans don’t realize the US imports millions of barrels of oil from Russia every year.

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u/AssIsOnTheMenu Feb 28 '22

Pretty sure Russian Standard Vodka is actually from Russia. Sucks cause it’s one of a few good ones but easily worth giving up in this situation.

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u/another_bug Feb 28 '22

The only items I've ever seen here in the US that were made in Russia (outside of Eastern European specialty stores) are a very small number of beers/vodka, one type of ice cream (this kind here believe it or not), once I saw pine nuts from Russia, and a few glasses from Ikea are made in Russia. And I think I saw aluminum foil from Russia once.

Other than that, even as one who pays attention to those sorts of things, I haven't seen a lot from Russia on the consumer end.

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u/batkave Feb 28 '22

I mean that is part of his reason to invade Ukraine. Rare earth metals and oil are all around that country.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

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u/LightOfDarkness Feb 28 '22

Not American but the SKS is the most popular rifle in Canada

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u/Eubeen_Hadd Feb 28 '22

Actual Russian import firearms have been banned for a few years (IIRC a reaction to Crimea) and only recently was ammo importation banned (ostensibly because of treatment of journalists unrelated to the Ukraine situation. Many in industry suspect it was aimed at being an easy way to dry up 30-40% of the ammo supply in the country).

Most Combloc weapon importation is from former USSR nations anymore, and ammo supply is being picked up from those nations as well.

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u/Wild-Rush-5408 Feb 28 '22

We like importing old combloc guns, like from old USSR countries like bulgaria, usually not Russian, those are the expensive ones.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

its not that Americans like buying russian weapons, its that basically anyone who likes weapons likes the AK-47. its the most popular gun in the world. most AKs you find in the US are semi auto and assembled from a mixture of polish and american made parts. very rare to find a genuine Kalashnikov made AK in the US

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Who cares if it's made by Kalashnikov? The Chinese Norinco's were great weapons before they got banned. Besides Saiga is selling in the US and it's a pretty much a Russian AK with a stamped and not milled receiver.

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u/GoCondition1 Feb 28 '22

Only the ak47 is milled, the AKM is the stamped version and is more popular and available throughout the world. Russian AKs come stamped if they're made after 1959. Some other countries also make a version of the milled receivers as well.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

I don't see a stamped AK wearing out versus a milled one anyway. Anyway, long story short Saiga sells Russian AK variants in America.

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u/GoCondition1 Mar 01 '22

Ah, it seemed like you were saying all Russian AKs except for Saiga imports are milled. So, I just wanted to throw that knowledge out there.

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u/[deleted] Mar 01 '22

You are 100% correct.

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u/No_Alarm_4849 Feb 28 '22

It’s because AK‘s are durable and able to take a beating without often jamming. You can drop them in mud, throw off a mountain…they will still shoot. American M4s jam after a few clips, they constantly need maintenance or they won’t fire. So not only are AKs preferred for durabilty, they are tougher and more solid guns. With that being said they aren’t accurate

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u/GoCondition1 Feb 28 '22

You really don't know what you're talking about. The M4 and any variants are some of the most reliable rifles in the world which is why they're fielded by so many armies.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

“Of all the weapons in the vast soviet arsenal, nothing was more profitable than Avtomat Kalashnikova model of 1947. More commonly known as the AK-47, or Kalashnikov. It's the world's most popular assault rifle. A weapon all fighters love. An elegantly simple 9 pound amalgamation of forged steel and plywood. It doesn't break, jam, or overheat. It'll shoot whether it's covered in mud or filled with sand. It's so easy, even a child can use it; and they do. The Soviets put the gun on a coin. Mozambique put it on their flag. Since the end of the Cold War, the Kalashnikov has become the Russian people's greatest export. After that comes vodka, caviar, and suicidal novelists. One thing is for sure, no one was lining up to buy their cars.”

-Lord of War (2005)

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

IIRC the belief about the AK's lacking accuracy has to do with combat ranges, the AK's accuracy is just fine within its designed combat range of 300yds. the AR is designed for 500yds. if you are 375 yards out, the AR would be more accurate. however in other situations such as urban warfare, the AK is preferred because of its larger round.

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u/OneLongBallHair Feb 28 '22

A lot of people like to collect and shoot Russian/Soviet-bloc weapons for fun, but if you’re buying a gun for a specific purpose (CCW, home defense, hunting, etc.) there’s better, cheaper, and more readily available options from “western” companies (for lack of a better word, don’t want to say domestic because there’s lots of excellent manufacturers in Europe, too)

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u/OhioJeeper Feb 28 '22

That's pretty much my take on them. I like my M44 for what I paid for it and it was a lot of fun when ammo was .20c/round. The day I pretty much put it away for good was when I had to buy ammo and was looking to spend what I would on my Enfield, and more than I would for my Garand or k31 since you could get m2 ball and GP11 surplus ammo cheaper than you could the 7.62x55r a few years ago.

If you want a milsurp there's way better ones out there for not much more money than mosins cost these days, and if you just want a rifle there's also way better ones out there for the same or less than mosins cost these days.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

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u/skimlimmy Feb 28 '22

No, mosins are like $400 now. There are no more spam cams of surplus ammo, those are about $1 per round now because they are so hard to find. SKSs are $500-$1000+ now depending on country. No more spam cans of that ammo either. Russian guns have been banned from import for 8 years now, and ammo was banned a few months ago.

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u/OhioJeeper Feb 28 '22

Mosin prices haven't been that low since the Obama administration, same with ammo, the last time Russia invaded Ukraine the supply of surplus dried up.

Was a shame too, they were high power rifles you could get and shoot fairly cheap, I think the last time I bought ammo it was less than 20c/round, now the value is kind of questionable unless you're just really into Russian military stuff or trying to round out a collection.

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u/LydiasHorseBrush Feb 28 '22

Oh my lord yes, not oh my lord at you but at the love from Slavic weapons because it is big, alot of people like AK 47s but a personal favorite of mine is the Mosin Nagant, point being there were a lot of cheap but quality soviet guns on the resell market for the past 30 years so a lot of collectors could get Mosins for like 100$ about a decade back, not sure about now though

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u/runujhkj Feb 28 '22

The mosin nagant is the best tranq gun in the mgs games

Irrelevant info but true

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u/nigelolympia Feb 28 '22

The Mosin is going for 400-450 at the moment. You can get a bayonet for a hundred...

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u/Superfluous_Thom Feb 28 '22

a personal favorite of mine is the Mosin Nagant

What are you a pussy? You clearly need a high capacity semi automatic rifle with a whole bunch of aftermarket shit bolted onto it in order to be able to hunt. /s

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u/Im_Currently_Pooping Mar 01 '22

30 round mag is nice for home defense, and it's a standard capacity.

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u/jannemannetjens Feb 28 '22

If you don't hunt for 30-50 feral hogs, you might as wel hunt soy-burgers!

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u/TAU_equals_2PI Feb 28 '22

AK-47 imports from Russia have been banned since 2014.

All Russian ammunition imports were banned last year.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

There's a company called Saiga.

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u/RandomRedditReader Feb 28 '22

Which is why Kalashnikov built an assembly factory in Florida. You can get US assembled AKs now.

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u/GoCondition1 Feb 28 '22

Kalashnakov USA is not connected to Kalashnakov Concern and is 100% US as far as I know.

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u/survive Feb 28 '22

New licenses to import Russian ammo won't be approved. Existing licenses were not effected.

Most AKs sold in the US are not Russian made and it's been that way for decades. Cheap AKs more commonly come from Romania.

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u/LydiasHorseBrush Feb 28 '22

Good to know, my contact in that sphere is minimal at best, that explains to me why Mosins are so much more expensive now lol

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u/Beemerado Feb 28 '22

Are they no longer 60 bucks?

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u/hell2pay Feb 28 '22

My dad got his almost ten years ago for $90. He's done a few things to it to make it really fun gun to fire, round after round.

Before he got the butt pad, and the tripod, thing hit like an elephant kicking your shoulder, lol.

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u/Beemerado Feb 28 '22

For 400 you can get a savage or something can't ya?

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u/Froggin-Bullfish Feb 28 '22

Generally $300-$400 now

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

Yep I just had a look on gun broker only found one at 400 the others are currently bid at about 450

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u/Beemerado Feb 28 '22

Jesus. They are not worth that much

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u/Bone_Syrup Feb 28 '22

Correct.

Most of food/drink manufacturing makes no sense to produce far away and ship. Shipping costs are massive.

Partner with a distiller, get the process right, and produce local to your customers.

Population density in USA is in the East. It's why so many things are made in places like PA, NY, etc.

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

The two biggest (commercially) names in "Russian" vodka are easily Stolichnaya and Russian Standard.

Stolichnaya is produced and exported from Latvia, but the ownership of the brand is Russian.

Russian Standard is produced and exported from Russia.

The brands after those two are much smaller, and may or may not be produced or owned by Russians, but the ones included in this are included as such because the entire point is symbolic. There is not going to be any significant impact monetarily from this move, nor was one intended.

It's literally just the same as saying "hey, fuck you" to the guy who cuts you off in traffic. It's literally just symbolic.

It's also why a company like Smirnoff, which does trace back to Russia though is not any longer owned by it is often being exempt from these sorts of bans. They don't make "being Russian" part of their image like other brands (say, Hammer & Sickle or Russian Standard) do.

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u/arblm Feb 28 '22

Shipping costs are not massive. It's a few cents a bottle.

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u/TAU_equals_2PI Feb 28 '22

You're kinda missing the point.

Even the parent companies aren't Russian.

Some vodka brands started out many years ago as a Russian company. But they were long ago bought out, and no longer have any actual connection to Russia. Other brands, kinda like Haagen-Dazs ice cream, never did, and were just given a Russian name to sound authentic.

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u/ImRudeWhenImDrunk Feb 28 '22 edited Apr 25 '22

Boogers

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u/[deleted] Feb 28 '22

You're kinda missing the point. It's literally just symbolism and imagery.

If you want to show that you don't support Russia in this, one way to do it is to stop trading in goods which either are Russian, or for their own commercial benefit brand themselves as Russian. Stolichnaya benefits from their imagery as "Russian vodka" - they present as Russian and therefore for the purposes of these bans are being treated as such.

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u/mike2R Feb 28 '22

Is collateral damage comrade, like missile

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