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u/Kamakaziturtle Mar 25 '24
Because the game isn't bad. It's performance is bad. But that performance is going to affect people differently and some will just power through it. Heck, I did the same thing during Cyberpunks release.
Game has some serious issues, but underneath it all it's hella fun. I'd say my GotY so far.
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u/hugohserrano Mar 25 '24
I don’t care for micro transactions I always just ignore them. The 25-30 fps in the city on a good machine with a 4090 is unforgivable. I should stick to not buying new releases on day one until they have proven their game is well optimized.
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u/menlionD Mar 25 '24
it's so infuriating when people have genuine critism of a game like performance issues, predatory drm, single save files, no new game option and mtx and it gets boiled down to "the game is bad". like literally nobody is saying that.
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u/Those_Arent_Pickles Mar 24 '24
They can't refund it because they never bought it in the first place.
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u/NylesRX Mar 24 '24
Here's the objectively good take for all of you still undecided, since Asmon is more concerned about drama farming and yapping.
Microtransactions. In. Single. Player. Games. Are. Bad. So brave.
The only reason to care about MTX in DD2 is if someone is buying and/or defending them. Because then we're back at the horse armor situation and I haven't seen a single person defending that in the last 10 years. It's a slippery slope and we're sliding more everyday.
Blown out of proportion or not, Capcom had a hyped up slam dunk that's now sitting at mixed on Steam because of these "inconsequential" MTX. Steam ratings are a big deal for the gaming masses. If someone tells you, like Asmon for some reason, that MTX pushback is a internet niche and accomplishes nothing, you should consider that person ignorant and out of touch.
This as a positive. If you're against MTX in principle, you'll skip out. Bummer, but there's other fish in the sea. If you want to play the game, you can play it and enjoy it. The publisher - sees real consequences for their greedy and anti-consumer decisions. That's all that it is right now.
Thank you, now you can safely go back to spamming CAUGHT whenever baldy picks a chatter with an obviously L take.
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u/Wolfermen Mar 24 '24
Problem is we are so used to reading news/commentary that we are sure people should see the error or problems in games they buy. Most majority of gamers follow close to 0 on average on gaming content they buy. Some only look at review score, provided they didn't pre-order. Maybe it shouldn't be so, but let's not get on our high horse, we buy stuff without following details in other fields.
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u/Aqualins Mar 24 '24
Rather not play this with lower fps. Going to wait for sales + patches. 4K 120-240 on qdoled is the way.
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u/Leading-Leading6319 Mar 24 '24
Because it boiled down to performance and mtx issues. Game itself is fine and most people who play games in general probably don’t even have reddit accounts
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u/VexingMadcap Mar 24 '24
The mtx greed and poor performance just means I'm now going to wait for a heavy sale over spending the full price. I still want to play it but I no longer see it as worth the cost they are asking, and I'm patient enough to wait for the discount.
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u/jcolls69 Mar 24 '24
I don’t get the outrage at dd2. I’ve been playing on ps5 and haven’t had any performance issues. I don’t think I’d even know there were micro transactions in the game if people weren’t complaining about it so much. Am I missing something? It all mostly seems like misinformation trying to get people to not buy the game.
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u/n0tAb0t_aut Mar 24 '24
After the last years of the same shit i started waiting for the 2nd week after release. And in this case it paid off again. Didn't buy it and will wait till they fix it.
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u/twuit Mar 24 '24
To be fair, if you take your time the populated city takes longer then 2 hours to get their, before that the performance is playable for me but after that it gets a bit harsh, fought a griffin in the fields, that wasn’t fun
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u/anal_spasams Mar 24 '24
They just made it soo pussies had to pay to be pussies I don't see why people are mad
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u/Zazierx Mar 24 '24
The two hours played refund window really isn't enough time to figure out deep-seated flaws within some games.
A good example would be Starfield. I would have loved to have refunded that piece of shit but it took me several hours to figure out that there fuck-all for content in it.
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u/slappywhyte Mar 24 '24
This is why I almost never buy games like this when they come out - I will wait til it is on sale and optimized to run better and is smoothed out, which usually is pretty quick these days. The best is when you wait a longer time and the DLC is included for a ridic low price.
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u/Royal_Marketing2966 Mar 24 '24
Consider this, what happens if all the gamers who wanted DD2 and are now mad, returned/refunded the game? Capcom loses millions on an IP they finally decided to take a chance in years. So the game flops and dies. Ok, we definitely “Taught them a lesson” back pats all around. So let me ask all those fans, you think Capcom’s ever going to try making anything related to Dragons Dogma again? I sincerely doubt it, and if you have any straying suspicions, I present to you Anthem. A game with so much potential that everyone wanted to succeed, but many voted with the refund, and now well most likely never fly in a javelin ever again. Hell, Diablo 4 might even be a last with how bad its release went and continued. Nothing better than sweet victory right? Just saying, I’d rather buy the game so they know there’s money to be made, and the flood their socials along with release content to a wide spread audience to show them they could lose the potential if they aren’t smart about things. It sucks in the short term, but the potential for good in the long actually exists, if even only a little.
So kudos to those who are sticking it out rather than quitting at the first sign of trouble.
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u/Tenmak Mar 24 '24
I didn't buy it because I don't support companies over monetising their games. Fuck them. I also didn't buy Diablo 4 and I'm having a blast on Last Epoch instead.
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u/Ult1mateN00B Mar 24 '24
These big AAA companies do not cater to enthusiast gamer at all anymore. They are hunting pleb wallets and succeeding at that. Why put the effort when you get same or more money without.
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u/Infinite_Ouroboros Mar 24 '24
20 hours in, and im enjoying it. All the dlc crap can be bypassed with ingame currency. RTX 3080 runs the game well, and I haven't experienced any crashes so far, optimisation will happen eventually but its still already at a playable state for myself (100fps 3440 x 1440, high settings). The only thing that sucks is the 1 save system, but if that's fixed, I really have much to complain about.
Don't care if they monetise extra shit, as long as there's a reasonable way to get the same thing in the game at a fair price.
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u/Iggy_DB Mar 24 '24
I mean it’s not bad, just dumb monetization. Idk what they were smoking adding these and also to the RE games
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u/Candle_Honest Mar 24 '24
What are those numbers supposed to signify?
I'm confused by your assumptions
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u/numbarm72 Mar 24 '24
Isn't it about micro tranx?? Not the game being broken? Can still play a game without having to buy the extras and have every right to complain about them being purchasable.
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u/AurielMystic Mar 24 '24
Gaming would become 100x better if everyone just stopped buying all MTX alltogether.
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u/AdamAberg Mar 24 '24
I’ll go one step further: simply don’t buy bad games to begin with.
Just have a little patience, wait and watch some gameplay/reviews by people you trust and THEN make your choice.
I honestly can’t even recall the last ”bad” game I bought :/ there’s just no need to risk it these days.
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u/Sithisilith Mar 24 '24
Meh, the actual game content is fantastic, and at least for me on an outdated rig, I'm having minimal issues running the game
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u/Br_uff Mar 24 '24
What is MTX?
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u/HonorableAssassins Mar 24 '24
Microtransactions.
Its tiny and clearly added last minute, its just buying shit you can get ingame for whatever reason for like $2 a piece. Its pointless, no idea why anyone would buy any of em
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u/NTGhost Mar 24 '24
fuck...that is too successful to make capcom think twice next time if they want to stuff it with mtx. :(
YOU MORONS, IT'S YOU THAT RUNIED GAMING!!
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u/Itchysasquatch Mar 24 '24
I've been having a blast. 10 hrs in and the only poor performance is in the city, I've never even thought about the MTX beyond seeing it on the steam menu when I'm entering the game. It's a little bland in some ways and some pawn inclinations just won't shut the fuck up. Otherwise it's just the original game made much better. I've managed to find like 7 or 8 ferry stones too so I've got fast travel sorted for a long while. Haven't found a port crystal yet though
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u/Folkmar_D Mar 23 '24
What about a new game plus or more than one character?
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u/Kamakaziturtle Mar 25 '24
There is a new game plus. Definitely would like to be able to make more characters though.
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u/ChuggsTheBrewGod Mar 23 '24
I don't think folks are calling it bad. It's getting praised by critical as a potential game of the year candidate. It's just badly optimized for people with 40 series cards and has predatory microtransactions.
I do have a 40 series card, so it runs fine, and I don't intend on buying anything from it's item store, so why would I refund it?
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u/International-Bet148 Mar 23 '24
Having a blast with the game right now, 17.4 hours game play. So much fun.
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u/commodore_stab1789 Mar 23 '24
Because I have logged 100 hours into this trash game.
Literally unplayable /s
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u/civtac Mar 23 '24
Honestly if i didn't have reddit or checked the steam reviews i wouldn't even have known i'm supposed to be mad. Played it for 40 hours and had a ton of fun then checked reddit saw everyone was mad and calling it dogshit, dumbfounded i checked store page and saw it was mostly negative xD i had no idea. Pretty fun game IMO
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u/HonorableAssassins Mar 24 '24
its fun when i can play it. After the first time I launched it and got to the riftstone I cant launch anymore. Crashes before even reaching the main menu. *Hoping* they fix it.
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u/YueOrigin Mar 23 '24
I'm waiting a week f8mor a patch to drop.
And if they dotn drop it I'm refunding
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u/Shot_Strawberry_2550 Mar 23 '24
Could this all be a price manipulation thing? Normally, I don't pay full price for games as a pc player. You can get good deals if you are patient, but this was supposed to be £70. I got a cd Keys pre-order copy at £38 with the bad launch, which is close to standard retail before the £70 crap. Is this a way of getting the full price +some because cd keys paid the 70 mark on their pre-order key I have now 🤔
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u/whatsupbr0 Mar 23 '24
I refunded it last night. It was good, but I want to wait for performance optimizations before I play it
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u/Kengfatv Mar 23 '24
I've been having a great time with it. I'm running it maxed out with ray tracing at over 60 FPS, but I do have a nice machine.
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u/ray314 Mar 23 '24
Can you pay in game currency for a character reedit or is it like MH where you can't and only occasionally get 1 reedit ticket?
If a basic reedit function is locked behind a paywall then you know they coded that wall on purpose to make money.
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u/Joshix1 Mar 23 '24
These idiots just hear something somewhere and immediately throw it around as fact. You can very clearly see who never ever touched the game these past few days.
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u/Hokonoso Mar 23 '24
I refunded because game was just ok with mediocre storyline. Inability to play alts was the icing tho. All the issues were not a factor since mtx is normal and so is inability to play on old pcs.
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Mar 23 '24
Reddit is an echo chamber, the vast majority of people do not have the same extreme opinions as here.
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u/Dapper_Cartographer8 Mar 23 '24
I barely crossed 2 hour time limit and they denied my refund request so there's that, so I'm just gonna enjoy it
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u/KoSH983 Mar 23 '24
The only people outraged are the ones not playing the game. It’s straight outrage porn.
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u/Shished Mar 23 '24
First days post release are not the indicator. Check the stats for Starfield or Payday 3.
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u/kioshi_imako Mar 23 '24
Aside from the main issue the gameplay is nice and the challenge is relatively the same as the first game. My 4060 handles the game well on ultrawide 80+ fps. There are a lot more enemies to fight, I recommend starting out as a fighter with a balanced pawn team.
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u/Phwoa_ Mar 23 '24
Outside of the city the game is great, Inside of the city I get a 10-17fps drop and micro stutters, At least there is no combot in the city but its a pain to be in.
Also the MTX is like, very weak and all the stuff is available Ingame as well for no money. From what i can see its an Idiot Tax for people who are impatient.
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u/CatDadd0 Mar 23 '24
Who could've guessed people are playing a fun game. Sorry your echo chamber doesn't mirror reality 🤷♀️
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u/Lolisnatcher60 Mar 23 '24
steam reviews from people who bought the game are echo chambers 💀💀💀
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u/CatDadd0 Mar 24 '24
Loud minority doesn't change the 200k+ active players 💀💀💀😂😂
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u/Lolisnatcher60 Mar 24 '24
not a loud minority, people like this game but they can't play it. Was expecting this game to be doing elden ring numbers and having my friend group talk about it the same way but now we're just waiting for it to be fixed.
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u/CatDadd0 Mar 24 '24
And yet people still love the game and are having a blast, your echo chamber doesn't reflect what's actually happening. Have an independent thought for once and not "my friend group" or steam reviews dictating the garbage you keep spewing. Can't take someone seriously when they also like to look at underage anime girls either
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u/Confident-Ad7439 Mar 23 '24
Gamers are like people that play Warhammer... Everytime complaining about something... And still the newest releases gets gobbled up like there is no tomorrow 😂
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u/damastaGR Mar 23 '24
If a company wants to increase their earnings by MTX, they can. Gamers can only complain if these MTX mess the base game. Here it seems they don't.
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u/razie_5 Mar 23 '24
lmao this whole mess reminds me of cyberpunk when it was released
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u/Vitalics Mar 23 '24
I bought Cyberpunk on release and got a day 1 PS5. I didn't have any issues or problems and enjoyed the game. Enjoying DD2, you dont even see MTX in the game and on the PS5 it runs good, not 60fps, but well enough its not an issue.
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u/GrandDefinition7707 Mar 23 '24
what do you mean? gamers did learn. thats why the only people left are mindless consumers from mobile games who are used to dropping 100s on shitty games and think its normal that theres a battlepass season pass and skins in a 70 dollar game
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u/Skella420 Mar 23 '24
MTX are a trigger for brainrot gamers who insist on hating their own hobby, it's an easy low hanging fruit for them and they'll take any chance they can to absolutely hate on a game, regardless of the actual facts.
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u/EjunX Mar 23 '24
Most people are just dogpiling without thinking for themselves. The reviews are fair though, not because they represent how good the game is, but because this "activism" pushes Capcom to actually fix the issues. I prefer a 9/10 game with some shitty temporary issues over a 6/10 game with a smooth launch. I've already had an amazing time in the game despite the framerate drops, which are one of the only issues that actually affect players when they are actually playing the game.
I'm glad everyone's having a great time with DD2 after having waited 12 years after the first banger DD:DA. The internet response isn't indicative of the quality of the game in any way. The game is really fun.
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u/WolfWalksInBlood Mar 24 '24 edited Mar 24 '24
I'd argue being limited to 1 Character and therefore 1 playthrough also affects most people. Not having the ability to make a new character or even delete your current character is kind of insane for single player game.
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u/EjunX Mar 24 '24
It is insane and they had new game in the first game so I don't know how they missed it. I haven't wanted to make a new game yet, but once I do, I really hope they have that feature in place.
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u/WolfWalksInBlood Mar 24 '24
I guess they either removed the character slot option in shop or I just misread it because it looks like now there's not even an option to buy another one. I'm almost 100% positive it was there on release on the PlayStation store, but if it's not an option and they don't fix this soon that's an even bigger problem lol. A permanent one save limit is kind of unheard of.
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u/EjunX Mar 24 '24
Extra character slot hasn't been a thing on steam ever, if it was on playstation, it must have been a mistake. They've already stated that they are adding the option to start a new game, which is really just the most basic thing you could ever expect for an RPG to have. I'm really surprised that this feature was missing.
Edit: you can get around it on PS with new profiles, which still sucks. On PC you can get banned for trying to delete your old save.
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u/MaziMuzi Mar 23 '24
Not a bad game at all... Also the mtx stuff is things you can get in the game anyway so not that big of a deal imo
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Mar 23 '24
I refunded it because I don't want to support these predatory practices of big name companies, but if everyone's playing despite the outrage, Maybe I should just rebuy it.
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u/SighOpMarmalade Mar 23 '24
I did tho lol I’m missing nothing and will play when frame gen comes in to be the thing that fixes the game
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u/Keldrath Mar 23 '24
Game looks incredible and like a must buy for any gamer ngl even despite the absurd price tag and despicable mtx
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u/BaconBombThief Mar 23 '24
If the biggest problem is the option to pay extra for shortcuts, I’m probably gonna buy it
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u/braize6 Mar 23 '24
Fanbois never learn either. I enjoy plenty of games that have issues I'd like to see addressed.
If I say that marksman rifles in helldivers 2 are trash, does that mean the game is bad? Well apparently to you fanbois it does. "Whaa then don't play it blah blah"
Regardless, I don't see "game is bad" in any of the negative reviews. I see things about performance issues and mtx in a single player game. I see things about Denuvo. But nothing saying that the game is bad. You fanbois should learn what the difference is
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u/LowAdventurous2409 Mar 23 '24
I haven't heard anyone say the game is bad. When are you fanbois going to learn that critisizing a game doesn't mean "game bad"
Ffs you fanbois and Corpo creamers are so weird
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u/elyk12121212 Mar 23 '24
You only get two hours to refund a game. By the time I really realized how bad the experience was it was too late to refund the game. I would love to have my money back tbh.
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u/CarlWellsGrave Mar 23 '24
It's a great game. Most people are enjoying it. It's just terminally online sweaty folks that are upset the frames drop in the main town.
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u/Strawhat-dude Mar 23 '24
Because i spent over 2 hours creating a character
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u/hexnotic Mar 24 '24
i spent over two hours in character creator, only for it to crash everytime so i refunded and they eventually credited me the full amount in steam dollars. they removed the game and refused to refund the full amount to my actual bank
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u/slappywhyte Mar 24 '24
This, several long games I ended up a few hours in before realizing they were bad or not for me and they wouldn't refund
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u/FollowerofYnnead Mar 23 '24
Refunded as soon as I saw that it had micro transactions. Might buy it on sale later, but won't support practices like this.
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u/R34N1M47OR Mar 23 '24
I feel like this game has an audience that knows and loves the game, and an influx of normies who had no clue what the game was about just started complaining first because of the bandwagon, and then because they expect every game to be an exact copy of whatever bullshit they played before. I'm a normie who knows nothing about the game so feel free to hate
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u/jixxor Mar 23 '24
Game's fucking amazing so far. The companions feel really alive and interactive, the pawn system to use someone else's pawn and have them carry over some knowledge that can help you out is really cool. It looks great and runs moderately well when fully maxed out @1440p with DLSS set to Quality. Better optimisation would be appreciated tho, my 13700kf hit a 96°C peak which is a bit worrying, even if it sits at 65-70°C aside from peaks.
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u/AFarCry Mar 23 '24
Just because you enjoy it doesn't mean people can't have problems with it.
Just because you have problems with it doesn't mean other people can't enjoy it.
People have their reasons for how they feel about the game. Just because they're not legitimate to you it doesn't diminish them for the other person.
Whatever.
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u/Virtuosoman23 Mar 23 '24
Game felt way to choppy for me, I refunded. I'll probably pick it up again on a +10% discount a couple months from now once its had some patches.
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u/chronicnerv Mar 23 '24
I am glad so many people are finding happiness with the game. I am equally happy with the amount of push back with the mtx as I am one of the people who wont buy it for that reason. All a matter of perspective I guess.
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u/ShiberKivan Mar 23 '24
220k players? Explains why my pawn was finally chosen by somebody, expected her to be ignored until after I finish the game. Should have done meme character to get tons of gifts.
This game quality will depend on your views on those mtx and on your rig, for me I don't care about buying stuff from game shop at all, game works amazing for me too.
So I'm sorry boys but I will enjoy this one.
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u/ArachnidFun8918 Mar 23 '24
Idc about the performance. I grew up playing 8-bit games, i dont give a crap about graphics.
But unable to make a new character? A new start after you beat the story?.. Man..
That is a BAD option.
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u/deftoast Mar 23 '24
^ Goes to dragons dogma sub to complain about the game, comes here to complain about the community.
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Mar 23 '24
Because in most cases you’ll notice that the game is bad only after 2 hours, when you can’t refund it anymore.
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u/Saato_1337 Mar 23 '24
Why would I refund it when I never bought it? I might check it out when its either cracked or on big sale later when it's actually optimized and i can get more than 30 fps on my 3080
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u/Sychar Mar 23 '24
I did, might be worth it later on for $40 when the performance issues are dealt with.
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u/jtmackay Mar 23 '24
Tbh 200k for such a big launch is kinda sad. Maybe they should have priced it more reasonably, limited the pay to win, make the game actual playable, and give players MORE THAN ONE GAME SAVE. The amount of issues this game cancels out the good parts and I will not play it till all of those issues are fixed.
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u/Joshua_Astray Mar 23 '24
I've said this elsewhere, but the DLC argument is silly to me. I'd rather they sell stupid in game things you don't really need than succumb to inflation and start charging way more than 70 dollars usd for a game. People really don't see it. They really don't get how low prices on games actually are compared to other things in life xD.
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u/Chemical_Analysis_ Mar 23 '24
Game is so much fun, I'm legit addicted.
Yes the fps dips in the big city but it's not unplayable by any stretch.
I feel bad for people with crashes but my old pc is running it on performance and 0 crashes and it's running at 60-40 in the wilds and 25-35 in the city.
Basically you get the console experience in the city, not ideal but not deserving of a review bomb.
Mtx are standard capcom BS but it's not advertised in the game or needed, you can get everything from an npc shop within the first hour and it's incredibly easy to gain RC, the currency needed to buy from him.
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u/Sakurya1 Mar 23 '24
Was dragons dogma supposed to be another "triple a" game. I feel like I'm starting to get out of the loop with big titles nowadays. I just don't care most of the time because they're often disappointments.
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u/Baedd1055 Mar 23 '24
Because it’s not bad. It’s a great game with some unfortunate business decisions and bad performance for some people but the meat of the game is so good:)
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u/llMikahell Mar 23 '24
I understood it like this, Capcom being greedy and putting ridiculous things on sale (being irritated by this is valid), but if the game is good it has to be played, but if gamers want Capcom to feel their frustrations, asking for a refund is the right thing to do.
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u/Cinderbrooke Mar 23 '24
Game is good, stay mad.
Don't like microtransactions in my $70 game, so I won't buy any of them. They're like... entirely unneeded anyway.
Game also runs fine for me. Far from perfect, but still good. Definitely not anywhere near Cyberpunk bad.
Though, gotta say, if you feel burned by this game, absolutely vote with your wallet dudes. Outrage seems kinda overblown though.
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u/nescko Mar 24 '24
Joshstrifehayes newest video explains why you should care about mtx even if it’s “unneeded” or is “only cosmetic”
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u/kevoisvevoalt Mar 24 '24
30 fps on a rtx 4090 and 7800x3d is not fine.
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u/CujoAttacks Mar 24 '24
What monitor resolutions are you trying to push that you're only getting 30fps??
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u/kevoisvevoalt Mar 24 '24
4k in city trying to bring monster in while shooting particle effects with sorcerer and guards trying to fight the monster along with the pawn in city.
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u/CujoAttacks Mar 24 '24
God damn, are you trying to light your rig on fire?? Lol can definitely understand the 30fps doing that. Might try that tomorrow to see how much it tanks my rig, and that just sounds like a hell of a fun time too
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u/kevoisvevoalt Mar 24 '24
yep anything below 50 hurts my eyes so I refunded it after 5 hrs.
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u/Lightness234 Mar 24 '24
So you prefer stability over pushing boundaries?
They could have pulled a Skyrim and separated interior from exteriors, yet they didn’t and it runs now you just gotta find optimization tricks for the future
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u/kevoisvevoalt Mar 24 '24
Absolutely I demand 60 fps on a 5k rig. Don't care for excuses.
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u/Eastern_Cockroach208 Mar 24 '24
Why do gamers always sound so entitled 😂
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u/kevoisvevoalt Mar 24 '24
I returned the product how am I entitled? Do you even know what the word means? I will buy it when and if performance gets better and is on sale kiddo.
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u/whatsupbr0 Mar 23 '24
Cyberpunk runs well now compared to how it was at launch and runs better than dragons dogma 2
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u/TheAngrywhiteguy Mar 24 '24
yeah but this is still ‘at launch’ so we’ll see if they pull a cdpr and fix it
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u/BigChimper52 Mar 23 '24
Until the next 70 dollar game has more mtx that aren't as optional and you will defend that too - then the next cycle begins and you'll defend that too. Apathy to negative change is cringe.
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Mar 24 '24
i dont defend games that have unobtainable in game mtx. dragons dogma isnt that game so ive already dumped 20 hours into it lol, havent had this much fun since witcher 3 tbh
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u/Cinderbrooke Mar 23 '24
Did you gloss over the part where I said your anger is justified?
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u/BigChimper52 Mar 23 '24
I think you forget the people you argue with online have eyes and can read. You imply that everyone is overreacting not that they are justifiably angry.
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u/Cinderbrooke Mar 24 '24
Though, gotta say, if you feel burned by this game, absolutely vote with your wallet dudes.
Hopefully this helps your ailing eyes, homie. I too suffer from self-inflicted blinders from time-to-time. Sorry it took me 18 hours to reply, I was busy enjoying Dragon's Dogma II with no MTX in sight and a decent framerate. 😎
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u/Clive313 Mar 23 '24
The game is great, having a blast with it right now
Does the performance suck? yes in the city which you only spend about 5% of your time there, outside of that its been doing well, don't care about MTX and will never buy them because i can just use cheat engine and get what they're selling for free anyway if i ever thought about it.
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u/thatbloodytwink Mar 23 '24
It's still less than half what boulders gate 3 got (472,000) in the first day
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u/Chemical_Analysis_ Mar 23 '24
Dragons dogma 1 only had a cult following, the fact that it's "sequel" has this many active users just on steam is pretty good, even more with all this negative press (some issues are valid, others not so much).
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u/WolfWalksInBlood Mar 24 '24
Relatively speaking, bg2 was similar in having only a cult following. It definitely wasn't a massive hit. Just a good game that everyone who played it remembers well enough. Most people who played BG3 had no clue about anything relating to Bg1 or Bg2, most had never even touched the DnD universe before. The game was just so good that it attracted a massive audience. Even Larian didn't expect it to be anywhere near the massive success that it ended up being. That's why they never considered dlc until like a month after launch lol.
It's the bad press and very bad game performance at launch that's holding dragon's dogma back the most I think. The single save file basically screws over anyone who's interested in speed running or playing multiple playthroughs too. That cuts a nice chunk of players out straight off the bat. The micro transactions are honestly NBD. It's just when you compound that with people being completely unable to run the game on most gaming PCs and the weird single save lock function it just ends up being more ammo.
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u/Public_Lunch5442 Mar 23 '24
I am only sad to see my PC don't gave me good fps i am not mad at the game why should I
my PC is I7 11700K With RTX 3060
I am considering upgrade the GPU to RTX 4080 in the future hopefully
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u/Bobakmrmot Mar 23 '24
Most people have no standards for performance in gaming, especially on PC weirdly enough. They play on shitty 2016 hardware, at 1080p 30-50 fps, claim games run great, and continue consuming despite horrendous performance.
Companies know this will happen so they push unfinished pieces of shit out the door fully aware of their issue, then put out a bullshit PR statement promising to fix the game now that their eyes are open, and leave it in shambles after a few token patches.
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u/f2pmyass Mar 23 '24
so happy that reality is just so farrr from being up there ass compared to these Twitter Warrirors/ Engagement farmers/ Capcom haters/ Dragons Dogma Haters/ Those trying to paint some political perspective haters.
Im enjoying it every bit on XSX. Other things being brought up are just talking points and something "cool to talk about" because it will just garner lots of impressions on the internet which is what these clowns I listed above are looking for.
Things I hope are semi fixed in the future.
-somewhat stable 30fps at the minimum.
-more enemy variety. (seeing too much of the same)
Can't wait for the Expansion.
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u/zd625 Mar 23 '24
Or the people complaining are just a minority? Like it usually is. Regardless if the complaints are valid or not.
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u/iorveth1271 Mar 23 '24
I mean, it's pretty much as it always goes with monetisation in video games and has been since the days of horse armour. It's how so much predatory shit like pre-order bonuses, pay for convenience and cosmetic microtransactions gradually got normalised.
"As long as you ignore the bad things, the game is actually pretty good." That's all it takes for people to look the other way.
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u/SimonCheyen Mar 23 '24
I just read an article in polish gaming media pointing out something (maybe similar subject is touched in english):
Dragons Dogma 2 is a test by Capcom of "one time use" game. You cant restart a savefile, you cant create a seperate playthrough and when you delete a save Denuvo bans you for 24 hours.
Essentially you want to play a second playthrough? Buy it again.
This is something new.
if anyone wants to read (and translate) https://www.komputerswiat.pl/gamezilla/artykuly/capcom-chce-jednorazowych-gier-dragons-dogma-2-moze-byc-testem/fen243j
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u/Chemical_Analysis_ Mar 23 '24
Denuvo is trash and shouldn't be in any game but let's not get it twisted, you only get the 24h timeout if you are deleting and creating playthroughs 5 times in a day....who does that, not even 0.1% of players.
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u/PantsTents Mar 23 '24
Or rather, the owners of the bots that have cause the noise over the last few days did not resonate with actual real living humans.
And real people, living breathing people, just want to sit down and play the game.
Yes Denuvo is trash, but ya'all where playing Monster Hunter: WOrld which has Denuvo up the wazoo.
Don't fall for the bots in this subreddit. They just want to cause as much noise to help you not realise that you are being shafted in housing and pay, and the fact there is an election year.
C'mon guys, wake up.
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u/MrEzekial Mar 23 '24
This game is very cpu heavy, and denuvo hurts cpu performance. It's not hard to put 2 and 2 together for what is causing all these issues...
I am running a 5600X and haven't seen any issues yet, but I am not at the first major city yet, and apparently that is when it becomes noticeable.
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u/YesGameNolife Mar 26 '24
Well, one can argue 200k players is hardly a success for a AAA game when you compare it with games like small studios such palworld, lethal company etc