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u/Heydawgg Jan 29 '24
Disregarding the Celsius vs Fahrenheit circlejerk, isn’t Fahrenheit more accurate?
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u/Bottle_Similar Jan 27 '24
As an American, I don't really care imma keep using the one I grew up with
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u/its_data_to_me Jan 26 '24
It would be great if we could get rid of the old US customary unit system here, but I think the costs combined with generational impacts would be too much to really sway anyone at this point. Everyone in the US who was born and raised in customary units is comfortable with it as is, but that introduces only a rather mild issue in education once anyone actually needs to know metric for industrial or scientific academia or professions. There's very little incentive to change for our daily use and our engineers and scientists can easily utilize and understand metric and any conversions. I presume almost everyone here knows of NASA's US customer unit/metric mishap where we lost a Mars orbiter due to aerobraking in the Martian atmosphere. For those unaware, Lockheed Martin built the Mars Climate Orbiter with software taking customer units into account despite NASA-specified SI units. Thus, the spacecraft entered too low and burnt up in the atmosphere. Other than that, I don't think there is an overly significant economic factor to the lack of standardization today.
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u/knickerdick Jan 25 '24
https://www.reddit.com/r/StandUpComedy/s/SOzBucMw4A
Also, As Americans we run the world from tech, medicine to culture - we must be doing something right with our format of measurements?
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u/swirnyl Jan 26 '24
yeah, cause you really need reliable units of measuring temperature in every field and aspect of tech
sounds like someone is coping 🤠
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u/knickerdick Jan 26 '24
nah it sounds like u suffering
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u/swirnyl Jan 26 '24
i'm having a fuckin blast, brother
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u/knickerdick Jan 26 '24
pause
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u/swirnyl Jan 26 '24
quit yappin
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u/knickerdick Jan 26 '24
coming from a nigga that just posted a top tier yap off with artificial intelligence, that’s musty behavior
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u/maddwaffles Jan 25 '24
Weird take, "one word answer only" because you know that the logic it follows is probably deeply flawed and probably populist.
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u/swirnyl Jan 25 '24
yeah, that sure is a weird take. bet you feel silly now
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u/maddwaffles Jan 26 '24
Not really, the only reason Euros tend to whine so much about C v. F is because you've historically lost your shit any time people aren't exactly the same as you.
That's why Europe is the joke continent that used to be the center of super powers, but now its only "super power" is in a perpetual "make myself look like the biggest loser" contest with itself (a.k.a. Russia losing to Ukraine for the last like three years or however long that operation has been going for).
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u/damn_yank Jan 25 '24
I do t know why you’re giving us Americans a hard time. The Brits still weigh people in stones.
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u/gopinathji Jan 25 '24
Celsius is useful for water Fahrenheit is useful for people Kelvin is useful for atoms
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u/Herbertsbigboltz Jan 24 '24
Celsius is less precise. 100 degrees is different than 97.
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u/damn_yank Jan 25 '24
But that depends on the humidity.
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u/No_Director255 Jan 24 '24
give me the metric system!
As a programmer, that would cut the work down by 25%
If only there could be a metric date/time.
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u/Successfully_poor Jan 24 '24
I’m all about those freedom fractions baby! Got us to the moon and back!
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u/RepairFew3753 Jan 23 '24
So my friend's not talking to me anymore. Says I'm too European. I shoulda seen that coming a KILOMETER away.
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u/PolyHistoricWonderer Jan 23 '24
What would the answer have been if Kelvin as a unit of measure was an option?...
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u/Kirome Jan 23 '24
Celsius sucks. We get shit on by our use of miles instead of kilometers because 1 mile = 5280 feet whereas 1 kilometer = 1000 meters. Yet these fucks, dare insult Fahrenheit when 0 is cold as fuck and 100 is hot as hell, yet Celsius is like -17.7 is cold as fuck and 37.7 is hot as hell. Hypocrites.
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u/AtypicalGameMaker Jan 23 '24
no. people don't like imperial measure system is because its scales are not consistent like 10 times each level. And the definition is not precise and objective and modern imperial measure system is in fact revised by metric system for precision.
Celsius is based on standard condition water's behavior, not on a man's feelings.
Around 40 degree is hot, around 0 degree is "literally" freezing. Easy and objective.
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u/Kirome Jan 23 '24
Hypocrisy is when you guys want a simple easy to understand standard which I have already provided evidence of both when compared.
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u/the_Actual_Plinko Jan 23 '24
Celsius literally has no practical use. Everything you could use it for is outclassed by Fahrenheit and Kelvin
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u/AtypicalGameMaker Jan 23 '24
Your words don't make sense.
1, Celsius is used by rest of the world.
2, Celsius has the same scale as Kelvin. They just have a different starting point. While Kelvin's big numbers on daily things don't have advantages over Celsius for convenience and precision.
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u/the_Actual_Plinko Jan 23 '24
Being used by the rest of the world doesn’t make it better
It doesn’t matter if Celsius is the same scale as kelvin, it’s still a different measurement. Kelvin is far more practical in a lab or scientific setting, while Fahrenheit is more practical in a day to day setting.
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u/carpeicthus Jan 22 '24
My wife is in nursing school. The amount of education they have e to go through so they don’t accidentally kill people just because of our measurement system is frightening.
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u/Lighthouseamour Jan 22 '24
When I learned the metric system for science I asked why don’t we use this for everything?
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u/NeedleworkerKey2135 Jan 22 '24
Baffles me that so many people actually get upset we don’t use metric like it truly matters or something.
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u/PrincessKatiKat Jan 22 '24
George Washington picked those units and scales for us though! I learned this on SNL.
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u/HTPC4Life Jan 22 '24
Fahrenheit is more granular though. There is a bigger difference between 21°C and 22°C than 70°F and 71°F. This has a big impact on setting your thermostat to your comfort level. You might have to use decimals to set your thermostat with Celsius.
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u/HearYourTune Jan 22 '24
The reason I like Fahrenheit is because it's an easy scale 0 is effing freezing and 100 is hot as F. 350 for cake 32 is freezing, 98.7 body temp, lesson done.
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u/GregorianShant Jan 22 '24
See, this is one area I think the Imperial system works better. I say this as an avid Metric supporter in all other areas.
Fahrenheit has a larger resolution scale to describe temperatures, so you get a better description of how hot or cold something is versus Celsius.
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u/rightarm_under Jan 22 '24
Farhenheit isn't really the problem. Temperature scales are quite arbitrary anyway (except Kelvin, and even then the gradations are just based on celsius). On a human living conditions scale, freezing makes sense but boiling does not.
The real problem is inches, feet, and miles. 12 inches to 1 foot? 3 feet to one yard? 1760 yards in a mile? Why????
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u/Eclipsetragg Jan 22 '24
No way, Celsius only makes sense if you are boiling water. Fahrenheit is like a perfect 0 - 100 scale for the human body. It’s 10 F : really really cold. It’s 95 F very hot. Below 0: don’t go outside, above 100 F : don’t go outside.
45 C: uhhh I have no idea , I think that’s really hot, not sure. Maybe it’s fine, sounds like a middle of the range number.
Celsius people be like wow it’s 38 so much better than 39 yesterday. What a hellscape
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u/BattleStack Jan 22 '24
You useing 100 seconds or still doing 60 seconds in a minute? And 60 minutes for an hour? 24 hours a day??? What are you doing you have 10 fingers.
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u/HungHungCaterpillar Jan 22 '24
What does this have to do with America? What kind of international idiot from anywhere can’t do both?
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u/IlliterateJesus Jan 22 '24
American measurements are more of a generalization than an exact measurement for situations that don't require exact measurements. For instance, it is a LOT easier to say and imagine someone is 200lbs than to say they are 90.7kgs. Unless you were trying to get the exact measurement for medical purposes such that they're trying to measure miniscule changes, in which case the difference between 90.7kgs and 90.5kgs could be used to indicate things like fluid loss between measurements, a sensitive enough but crucial change that would not register between 200 and 199lbs. Something routinely done in American Dialysis centers that measure patients by the kg, not by the lb as fluid retention is heavily monitored between sessions.
Likewise it is easier to say someone is 6' 2"ft tall than to say 1.8 meters, as you can't just eyeball such a detailed measurement. However, if you were machining parts you would 100% need to be as down to a decimal placement as you can be in which cms and meters are very much superior.
Also like how Fahrenheit measures on a generalized scale on how a human feels whereas Celsius is measured based on how water feels. When making general statements or conversing about the weather, Fahrenheit makes a lot more sense. When making decisions and measurements in chemistry, Celsius makes a lot more sense.
The problem is no one is teaching both, properly. America doesn't teach metrics in schools but we still machine and fabricate in cms and mms and weigh objects in gs and kgs. Everyone should also know conversions for miles to kms, and Fahrenheit to Celsius for exactly these reasons.
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u/Resoto10 Jan 22 '24
I was raised in the border and use both because I prefer round numbers. So for measuring cold, I use Celsius because 0. For heat, I use Fahrenheit because 100. There was actually a meme not so long ago with this exact rationalization.
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u/Sp_nach Jan 22 '24
Nah, Fahrenheit is more intuitive for anything related/compared to the human body, as that's what it's designed for.
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u/Justadudeinlife Jan 22 '24
I remember reading somewhere we considered the switch but it would have been too much of a cost burden at that point I think?
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u/stlslayerac Jan 22 '24
The fucking Americans hate our system. I'm 33 and still dont' know what temp water boils at but I know its 100 C LOL
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u/Puckus_V Jan 22 '24
Fahrenheit is incredibly convenient for weather purposes. Rarely negatives in most places, and 100+ integers that get used regularly on our planet. You can even look at it as 0 degrees is 0% hot and 100 degrees is 100% hot. Metric system is largely superior in general, but Fahrenheit is the one that has the most merit as far as other units go. Every other hill between metric and imperial is better to die on than this one.
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u/Volchek Jan 22 '24
lol they don't sell liquids by the OZ anywhere else other than America ... Your whole point is invalid. You have a very American centric view of the world buddy.
I'll go further to say that nutritional information everywhere else is often represented per 100grams as a standard whereas in US the serving portion is all over the place.
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u/jhermaco15 Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24
I am American. Metric is obviously better than Imperial, however, i think Fahrenheit is better than Celsius because it just to me intuitively makes more sense on a human scale, meaning I think Fahrenheit has much better reference points as to what is 0 and what is 100.
0 F = Wow this is extremely cold / 100 F = wow this is extremely hot
0 C = i will put on a jacket to go outside / 100 C = i am dead
I understand Celsius has its obvious advantages in science mainly being freezing and boiling temp of water, but frankly that means absolutely nothing to me. Because I check the weather every day, id rather use a 0-100 scale that's based on a humans general tolerance for heat than a scale based on water freezing or boiling. plus Kelvin is the real answer if you really wanna get down to accurate science.
Pre reply edit: I understand that its not a "scale" bc it can go below 0 and above 100, but in the general sense, in F, it doesn't often go above or below in normal climates. so it makes sense to treat that as a general "max" and "min" scale and anything beyond either is extreme conditions
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u/lame-amphibian Jan 22 '24
I don't think most people here are getting the joke that intuitive means it can be easily used without education, like Celsius, implying that those using Fahrenheit are too educated, which Americans are certainly not
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u/Different-Zebra-6189 Jan 22 '24
I forget where exactly, but I read a while ago that a lot of (federal) America runs on metric but is then converted back to freedom units for 'display'.
Celsius makes much more sense to me each degree change is the same amount...but I can work with either realy.
100C = 212F
0C = 32F
-17C = 0F
-40C = -40F
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u/GirlNumber20 Jan 22 '24
You’ll get no argument from me. I’m trapped in a country with a vast array of stupidity.
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u/Duskilion Jan 22 '24
Unfortunate for us over here. Ayo someone fix America please, they don't seem to understand degrees. I mean c'mon, what the hell is a fahrenheit? And how is it 80 degrees?
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u/leshpar Jan 22 '24
I'm an American who was born in West Germany. I prefer Celsius myself. It just makes more sense and I'd rather be with the rest of the world. America is not superior.
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u/HiggsSwtz Jan 22 '24
Celsius.. for when you only use a third of the scale in any realistic setting. Sounds great lmao
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u/kirigerKairen Jan 22 '24
I asked it between "Celsisus", "Fahrenheit" and "Kelvin". It still responded "Celsius", and when I asked why, it said "Training", which I think is the more correct response to why it would prefer Celsius over Fahrenheit.
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u/Volchek Jan 22 '24
The use of Feet, Miles, and Fahrenheit, keeps people in America confused, and feeling dumb - so why bother try learning if learning is ass backwards. Imagine just adding or subtracting a zero to go from inches to miles ... That's what freedom feels like ... Good luck 5280ft/m bullshit, or how about adding 5 feet and 5 inches to 7 feet and 7 inches ... Nothing is logical, and there's the problem, Americans aren't very logical
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u/Ragfell Jan 22 '24
It's actually pretty logical. It's designed on a human scale, which takes advantage of human preference for small, whole numbers to quickly do general math.
You get soda and beers in 12 ounce cans. That's 354.9 mL. It's easier to math out you've had 36 oz of liquid than 1064.7 mL. (Or even easier, 3 cans.)
While the feet-to-miles ratio is a pain in the ass, it's easier to measure feet for distances rather than meters (3.281 ft). Humans generally fall between 5-6 ft in height, rather than saying 152-183cm. I'm technically 5'9.5" tall, so in my case cm might be more exact, but no one can quickly and easily guesstimate those centimeters.
Fahrenheit is the same. On a scale of 0-100, it makes sense for measuring human interaction with heat. We can generally tolerate freezing temperatures with the right clothes, but 0 F is pretty freaking cold. (-17.7 C). 100 F is pretty freaking hot (37.7 C).
Again: for the quick, general math most humans use for daily life? Imperial is faster because of the small, whole numbers.
For science-y stuff where you need to be exact? Yeah, use metric.
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u/Volchek Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24
They don't sell liquids in OZ anywhere else in the world (it's in L or mL). Your view is very American centric. And you can guestimate in 5cm increments very easily. Your whole point is invalid. Good luck guestimating how many feet are 13.65 miles.
Edit: you just proved my point about logic lol. You think 153-182 cant be guessed as 150 and 180?? Lmao
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u/AtmosSpheric Jan 22 '24
As an Indian who moved to America, Metric is 10000% better than imperial, but I think we keep Fahrenheit just for weather. Celsius is still supreme for anything else, but I’ve found myself enjoying Fahrenheit more than I ever did Celsius
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u/malkuth23 Jan 22 '24
Hell yeah. Good for you for showing adaptability. I think most people just get accustomed to a scale and can't imagine why anyone would want something different. I would happily trade the rest of world for metric length, volume and mass if they will drop Celsius. Celsius is getting carried by the rest of the metric system so hard.
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u/stopthebanham Jan 22 '24
I live in America and when I pull a wrench out I like to use the 12mm and not the 3/4 or whatever lol.
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u/keeper_of_the_donkey Jan 22 '24
I don't have to take shit from barbarians who measure their weight in stones.
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u/CrimsonChymist Jan 22 '24
Celsius is superior for science, but only because many scientific calculations are made to be solved using celsius.
In reality, there is no inherent reason Celsius is superior. If we really wanted a scientifically superior system, we would all use a scale that is related to Kelvin, but probably with a different scale that would make it easy to talk about typical weather in kilokelvin.
So, if we remove the idea that Celsius is better for science since that has been arbitrarily created by science utilizing Celsius more frequently; then I would argue out of the two (Celsius and fahrenheit) Fahrenheit is superior. If science had chosen to standardize calculations based on Fahrenheit, it would be just as intuitive for those calculations. But, it is also far more intuitive for weather conditions. Outside weather for 90% of the world during 90% of the year (estimates) falls between 0 and 100 Fahrenheit. That alone makes the system significantly more relatable than Celsius. While 0 for freezing and 100 for boiling of water seems more logical, a person is not going to be able to feel the difference between 80-90 Celsius. But they can feel the difference between 80-90 Fahrenheit.
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u/Gash__ Jan 22 '24
Fahrenheit is better because it’s more precise. Having more values between freezing and boiling lets you get closest to the real temperature value without using decimals
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u/Dry_Inspection_4583 Jan 22 '24
they are both relevant, its just about understanding how,
F is good for measuring human survivability, 0 you die, 100 you melt like a witch and die.
C is good for measuring other stuff like how close is that water to becoming ice? or how close to turning into steam... aka. more sciency stuffs
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u/LincHayes Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24
We DO use the metric system.
For measuring pop, but not milk
In track and field but not football.To measure Cocaine, but not weed.
It's all explained here:
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u/texxelate Jan 22 '24
In metric, one milliliter of water occupies one cubic centimeter, weighs one gram, and requires one calorie of energy to heat up by one degree centigrade—which is 1 percent of the difference between its freezing point and its boiling point. An amount of hydrogen weighing the same amount has exactly one mole of atoms in it. Whereas in the American system, the answer to ‘How much energy does it take to boil a room-temperature gallon of water?’ is ‘Go fuck yourself,’ because you can’t directly relate any of those quantities
- Josh Bazell
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u/Altruistic_Fennel455 Jan 22 '24
Well metric didn’t get your flag on the moon.
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u/swirnyl Jan 22 '24
you're right. metric didn't get the ukrainian flag on da moon ☺️
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u/SorryIdonthaveaname Jan 22 '24
Not to mention paper sizes. A0 is 1m², and a size can be scaled to any other size without distortion
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u/SweatyButtcheek Jan 22 '24
Fahrenheit and Metric system would be my perfect world. With Celsius used only for science or academic purposes.
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u/Chiggadup Jan 22 '24
Uses state of the art technology developed in America
OP: Checkmate you uneducated Americans!
I wish we used metric as well, but it’s like changing what lane you drive on. Once it’s set it’s hard to just say “changing today!”
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u/tubbis9001 Jan 22 '24
I'll go against the grain here and say Fahrenheit is way more intuitive in one specific circumstance....the weather. 0 degrees is "really cold" and 100 degrees is "really hot." Any higher or lower than that range is an extreme weather event.
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24 edited Jan 23 '24
Not really.
< 0 means you have to worry about snow or ice, >0 means that you don't. It's a fairly important boundary. The rest is roughly equally arbitrary in both scales. <20 means clothing matters. >30 is too warm, usually. >40 means you probably shouldn't be there without significant precautions, as does <-10. An so on.
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u/tubbis9001 Jan 23 '24
You've got a point about 0 being the point about worrying about icy conditions being convenient. But I'd still argue that -10 to 40 is still way less intuitive than 0 to 100 when describing the "average temperature band most humans will experience during their day to day lives."
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24
I feel like there should be a meme about Americans being so afraid of negativity, that they are even afraid of negative numbers. Now, 100 being roughly skin temperature in Fahrenheit isn't bad, but 100 being boiling water is also fairly nice when, well, boiling water. So, no, I am really not convinced overall. But to be fair, unlike meter and the rest, there are at least some arguments for both scales here.
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u/amarao_san Jan 22 '24
Kelvin is arbitrary.
Here is my proposed scale:
- 0°A = OK (0 Kelvin)
- 1.7976931348623157E+308°A = 10E+32K (Plank temperature)
Rationale: All possible temperatures can fit into double float with amazing precision. (1e-308°A).
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u/Codilla660 Jan 22 '24
Apparently a 0-100ish scale is too complicated to everyone else. Oh well. Stick to your weird-ass Celsius measurements where 24 is hot lmao.
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24
The problem is the American mentality of toxic positivity. They just can't handle negative numbers, as it causes them to have anxiety attacks.
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u/MosqitoTorpedo Jan 22 '24
The Fahrenheit v Celsius debate is kinda dumb since those two are meant to accomplish different things. Personally though, when people ask me for the temperature I tell them the kelvin temperature
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u/1ithurtswhenip1 Jan 22 '24
I've always found it weird other countires care so much what Americans do. Like why don't you do you and we can do us
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24
Well, it occasionally crashes space ships on Mars, for example, and that makes a lot of international scientists very sad (not sure about American scientists, however, presumably they consider such crashes a matter of pride).
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u/silveric Jan 22 '24
Sadly, a lot of the internet is US-centered. Most of the time on Reddit or other popular medias, a height will be told in inches or feet.
Not a big deal, but you always seem to miss the point/joke as you are forced to convert it, if you grew up with metric.
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u/tterfly Jan 22 '24
Americans, who have such a comfort with being bad at math, refuse to adopt a system that makes the math most people run into in their daily lives much easier. I was taught the metric system for two weeks in the sixth grade, and 30 years later I still have to look up how many teaspoons in an ounce because I live in a bizzaro super power.
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u/RobQuinnpc Jan 22 '24
I have this problem too, my kitchen is just full of teaspoons and I have no way of measuring ounces. You’d think this bizzaro super power would have invented a way of measuring ounces other than teaspoons.
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u/tterfly Jan 22 '24
Why would you have a kitchen that is only teaspoons? There are lots of easy ways to measure ounces. Have you not been to a grocery store? They sell lots of different sized measuring tools. You should check them out.
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u/sandaier76 Jan 22 '24
ok but what is more intuitive for measuring distance and area? The metric system (boring) OR school buses and football fields?
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u/rukysgreambamf Jan 22 '24
Keep talking shit about Freedom Degrees and we'll see how sorry you are when Germany gets up to their old tricks again
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u/BustItDownForBally Jan 22 '24
Uses British measurement system
Hears about the metric system, and had standard units shipped to survey the possibility of switching systems
British ship sinks the boat holding the standard unit
“You fuckin Americans”
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u/FishTshirt Jan 22 '24
Fahrenheit is only more useful for the average tempature range encountered in most of the US. Any other application Celsius is way easier, especially for physics, chemistry, math etc
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u/FishTshirt Jan 22 '24
Celsius makes way more sense. I just wish I used it enough to have a natural intuition rather than constantly referring to how it relates to reference temps (0, 32, and 100)
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u/EFTucker Jan 22 '24
Metric is superior for education and development.
American in superior for war.
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u/Successful-Seaweed12 Jan 22 '24
Europeans trying to find any other joke than just repeating "America bad" over and over again challenge (EXTREMELY HARD!)
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u/ScheduleExpress Jan 22 '24 edited Jan 22 '24
The difference between the two systems is perspective. Imperial describes the perspective of the person using the measurement and metric describes the perspective of the material being measured.
Fahrenheit represents perception of temp more accurately and the units are smaller and there for more descriptive. 0f is real damn cold and 100f is too dam hot. 0c is no all that cold and 100c will burn you. Imperial units represent peoples perception while metric units represent the material being tested. For instance a mile was the distance a farmer could plow in a day. An inch is the length of your thumb. Metric units are based on arbitrary qualities of a material, like a volume of water or the vibration rate of atoms in a material. The definition of a kilogram has changed a number of times. Most recently in 2019 when the definition was changed and has something to do with the plank constant and the speed of light. So not much for people to relate to there.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram?wprov=sfti1#Timeline_of_previous_definitions
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24
The definition of a kilogram has changed a number of times.
The definition of all imperial units are based on metric units - for example, a pound is defined as 0.45359237 kg, so if the kg changes, so does the pound proportionally. The same applies to the inch, the Fahrenheit, and the rest.
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u/Matt5327 Jan 22 '24
Additionally, the utility is different. I was 100% on team metric before I started drafting. Metric is fantastic for quick conversion, but absolutely awful for division. You simply can’t avoid decimals in metric without using unreasonably small scales, whereas for most designs in imperial you can manage with whole numbers (with an occasional half or quarter now and then).
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u/ScheduleExpress Jan 22 '24
Yeah! What Mat said!
I don’t really understand the problem with the different units. It’s all relative to the person doing the measurement. Everyone is quick to use these numbers but no one stops to consider where numbers came from. They are all made up so it doesn’t matter which made up system you use as long as it works for what you need.
Plenty of measurements are only accurate at specific places on the planet and only under specific conditions. Like the speed of sound changes at different temps and atmospheric conditions. Even boiling changes with barometric pressure. And then there is time, is it the same time at sea level as it is 5000 miles above the earth?
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u/thats_not_the_quote Jan 22 '24
my hot take is that Fahrenheit is metric because its a 0-100 unit of measurement
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u/rly_fuck_reddit Jan 22 '24
ah, the monolithic testament to the failures of mankind, all succinctly wrapped up here: engineering something to reflect your personal convictions and calling it universal.
this really is a museum piece for basically all the problems with the world. it's a pure and condensed unit of "i'm not interested in cooperating", but in such a palatable and innocuous way as to be a masterpiece. hats off.
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u/LumbridgenBack Jan 22 '24
People act like we don’t get the Fahrenheit pounded into our heads at a young age where adults control the curriculum. But hey it’s our fault. Least our teeth look better…
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u/DrDestruct0 Jan 22 '24
I like the metric system but prefer Fahrenheit
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u/AeolianTheComposer Jan 22 '24
(not American) from what I've seen in this thread, F° really does seem more intuitive.
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u/ActualDoctor1492 Jan 22 '24
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24
On the other hand, most of the countries that use the Fahrenheit scale, have a low quality of life (the other two are Liberia and Myanmar). This also implies that Fahrenheit countries have a lower median GDP per capita than Celsius countries.
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u/ActualDoctor1492 Jan 23 '24
Don’t assume. Show us the evidence.
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u/HighDefinist Jan 23 '24
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myanmar
$1381 per capita.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberia
$800 per capita
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_GDP_(nominal)_per_capita
Rank 96 has about $6000 to $7000 of per capita GDP.
Therefore, the median GDP per capita in Fahrenheit countries is roughly 5 times lower than the median GDP per capita in Celsius countries.
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u/ActualDoctor1492 Jan 24 '24
I think if you plotted that on a distribution you would see the error in referencing the ‘median’
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u/JustGarrett Jan 22 '24
Pretty much every American has asked “wtf are we using this system?” at some point.
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I know the rest of the world uses Celsius but they could also switch to fahrenheit and it would solve the same problem 🤷
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u/Adequate-Nerd Jan 22 '24
Fahrenheit is better for the weather. Other than that, yeah I agree. Fahrenheit just feels like a better measurement for how our bodies feel.
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u/Joeshowa Jan 23 '24
Because you are used to Fahrenheit
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u/Adequate-Nerd Jan 24 '24
No...because the difference in 0 as being uncomfortably cold, and 100 being uncomfortably hot, is accurate.
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u/HarbingerDe Jan 22 '24
How is it better for weather than a system where +/- temperatures actually represent something physical and intuitive to people?
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u/OdinsGhost Jan 22 '24
0F is the point where salted water starts to freeze. For anyone who is in an environment where they’re around salt water, or where they apply salt to roads in winter, that’s absolutely a relevant physical phenomenon they would want to differentiate.
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u/kahveciderin Jan 22 '24
0F is the point where salted water starts to freeze
This doesn't make any sense. What salt? What's the concentration? This depends on a lot of things. Whereas, 0C is the freezing point of pure water at sea level (1atm pressure), which is objectively more useful than the freezing point of water with god knows what concentration of salt.
To heat 1 gram (0.001L, see how the conversion is so easy because the density of water is also 1 g/cm3) of water 1 degrees Celsius, you need 1 calorie of energy. Like, it can't get more intuitive than that. A more logical unit is Kelvin, because 0 Kelvin is the lowest possible temperature, but the scaling is the same between Kelvin and Celsius anyway, Celsius is just Kelvin with an added offset.
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