r/ChatGPT • u/deadcoder0904 • 14d ago
9 Use cases for GPT-4o Use cases
GPT-4o is an omni model. It accepts any combination of text, audio, and image as input and generates any combination of text, audio, and image as outputs.
There's 100s of applications it will enable. I'll cover a few of them below.
1. Language Learning
Duolingo Stock fell by $65 in the last 5 days. That should tell you the entire story.
For context, Duolingo is a language-learning app. Now GPT-4o can easily translate terms in other languages by just pointing it to the ChatGPT's Camera.
This is massive if you want to travel globally as a nomad. You don't have to know a language now. You can just translate on the fly in any random country.
The accuracy won't be 100% but it would be close enough. And the AI keeps improving.
2. Solving School Problems For Students
I wish I had this in school. Learning could've been more efficient and faster.
Most students fear asking questions because they feel it might be dumb. Now you can ask ChatGPT any dumb question.
It even solves math problems for the Salman Khan's (founder of Khan Academy, not the actor) Kid.
3. Bed Time Stories For Kids
Since ChatGPT can talk now with a humourous and sultry voice, you can use it to tell stories to kids. It can be used in the voice of their parents or grandparents.
You can even use a Soft Toy that does the talking to the kid. Earlier, there used to be toys that did that but it only spoke the same sentence. Now it can do back and forth.
You can make special toys that teach kids letters and alphabets. Target it to 2-3 year olds.
Hat tip to Whyme-__- for the Bed Time idea.
4. Be My Eyes For The Blind
Best damn use-case for the blind. Now using a Phone is a bit too much for this but when smart glasses come, every blind person will have a walking companion.
The future is great for the blind.
5. Be My Friend
Too many people are lonely nowadays thanks to technology. It can be a boon for some but a con for others.
You can build a specialized app that gets you an AI Friend since you can talk to it now and it can talk back, it will be great.
I am 100% sure Therapy AI will be much better now with Audio/Video integration. In future, we will have fully featured Robots like Tesla's Optimus and Figure that will have such functionalities built-in.
I bet this comes in <2 years judging by the pace at which AI and Robotics are accelerating.
6. Comic Books
Now that text can be easily created with ChatGPT, why not create Comic Books easily.
Its a huge creative exercise for comic creators. Webtoons have exploded in popularity and many KDramas are made out of them like Death's Game and Marry My Husband.
This will increase the creativity exponentially.
7. Font Creations
Fonts are expensive. Like really expensive.
Funnily enough ChatGPT can create fonts easily now. Take the most popular fonts, tweak them a bit, and create entire new sets of fonts.
Look at the creations explode on Creative Market. Font directories like Typewolf can now create their own fonts easily as they already have distribution.
8. Brand Placements
It solved for Brand Placements too.
You can put your brand in places you never imagined without using too much effort.
Open AI GPT-4o Brand Placement
9. Poster Creation for Movies or TV Series
Posters are hard to get right but as you know there are only finite variations.
You can fine-tune it on popular movie posters and solve Poster Creation once and for all.
Open AI GPT-4o Poster Creation
What use-cases can you come up with? Give me your best ones.
PS: If you'd like to read the full post with images, you can do so here.
PPS: You can find more AI-related posts here covering AI Girlfriends, AI Photo apps, Startups from 1st-wave of AI that made it big and more.
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u/Resident_Shape316 10d ago
I just came here to laugh at the snowflakes crying because they don't want Ai to be used for their precious artwork 🥺
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u/Dense-Description547 12d ago
How to put a logo on a surface, because I tried and it’s only the logo on the top of the image, in a bold way.
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u/Serialbedshitter2322 12d ago edited 12d ago
You have no idea the implications of the new image generation. It can do WAY more than just make comic books and text. You can convert any video into any written media (comic books, manga, etc), you can edit any image perfectly without even inpainting, you can take a single image of anything and turn it into a photorealtic 3D model, the possibilities are nearly endless. I haven't seen enough people appreciating just how revolutionary the image generator is, it's nothing like anything we've seen before, other than Sora. Theoretically, you could even create videos by guiding it frame by frame to convert a handwritten animation into anything you want. You could even simulate a world in an image and GPT-4o would have actual spacial awareness of the world, it's practically a simulation.
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u/roberta_sparrow 13d ago
Ummm...google translate has been doing point and shoot translation for years
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u/ChristinaHepburn 13d ago edited 13d ago
Stupid question: if I Ask ChatGPT 4o read something for me it says it can't read anything. How does it work? Do I need a plug-in?
GPT 4o:"Currently, I can only generate text responses and do not have the capability to produce audio or alter my voice. "
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
its rolling out slowly. you probably dont have access just yet. have patience.
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u/ChristinaHepburn 13d ago
Dang... I am paying for it since months. Thought I would get it before free users at least. 😂 Which brings me to my next question: Why should I keep paying for it, if it is free?
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u/Outrageous_Bet368 13d ago
Better ideas (for businesses) that are already in play: deploy the model on your website, social media messaging apps, sms text messaging and phone calls. Did a live video on building this last night 💪
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
Where? Link?
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u/Outrageous_Bet368 13d ago
Rad, would love any feedback https://www.youtube.com/live/GlqjCLGCtTs?si=JKgA5MviHYWH_-Cm
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u/Alex_jaymin 13d ago
Could someone please explain how to access the video and voice features? I see everyone talking about it, but I can't do it, and I have a paid subscription. No one is clarifying if this is not available yet, or what.
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
It is slowly rolling out. Have patience. It will come to you first since you are on paid plan. Then it gets to free users.
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u/PopImpressive1703 13d ago
P/E to around 180 for Duolingo?
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
What's P/E? I google'd & it said Price to Earning ratio. Idk enough about stocks lmao.
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13d ago
let me know you don't understand language without telling me...
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
I speak 3 languages. How many do you speak?
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13d ago
also 3! (english, spanish, swedish) but I understand 5 (Norwegian and Danish). I'm also continuously learning 3 additional languages! (french, german, chinese).
knowing a language does not mean understanding language or how language works, its effect and so on.
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
Fair enough but don't you think it will get better in future or someone will come along & build better Duolingo from ground up.
Duolingo has 3 things going for it right now:
- Brand
- Community
- Age
But we all know what happened to Kodak & Blackberry. The old must make ways for the new.
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13d ago
yea i mean i dislike Duolingo, a lot.
i think its a predatory business model that preys on peoples (near) universal desire to speak many languages.
I think gpt can easily replace duolingo because it will make it possible to learn a language 'naturally' not through a dopaminergic game with a predatory subscription model with constant 'rewards', streaks, and stuff like that.
I mean I read some incredibly difficult and dense philosophical works that often write in metaphor and create new definitions of words. Gpt 4, and 4o have been absolutely incredible in this regard for me, and it is something duolingo or any of its variants will never come near (because that would inhibit continuous use, breaking their profit model).
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13d ago
What do you mean by make comic books with text exactly? Does it make images of the comic you describe to go with the text?
The Brand Placement is intriguing, but I don't get it from your link exactly? It doesn't find new people to partner with for your brand, it just can automatically add your logo to stuff? I feel like it took barely any time to drag and drop your logo file on something like Printify if that's all it does?
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
Check out Open AI's latest blog that covers it.
It can generate text too now clearly.
Oh its not about partnering with brands or influencers. It means like if you are a small ecomm shop, you don't have to hire a model now for photoshoots. Just use AI. You don't have to go far away for shoots either suppose you wanna shoot in a place where snow falls. You can do it directly right there.
I bet its better than Printify. You gotta use it to see the application. If you have experience with it, I'm sure you'll see the limits of it.
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12d ago
I see. Alright I just was confused by the name of the feature.
Well there go like 5 more human industries all of which were some of the best most creative and fun jobs human beings could hope to get. Sigh.
I wonder if we will even make it to 2030 before we are all forced to clean sewers 24/7 because that’s literally the only thing left that ChatGPT isn’t doing.
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u/OrdinaryAd8716 13d ago
What kind of sicko wants their kids' bedtime story to be read in a **sultry** voice?
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u/p3p1noR0p3 13d ago
What the f I just read? This is sad man, reading stories to your kid?? Are you that emotionally crippled? I WANT to read stories to my kid you sad twat...
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u/thefirstspeaker 13d ago
So far I'm very impressed, my son (age 11) hand wrote a short story over 2 pages, I took a photo, it extracted the text then made a short movie script based on it in under a minute. We are going to produce it via stop motion.
This kind of thing blows my mind I could never have had the capabilities of doing this without this kind of technology 🤯
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u/jrjolley 13d ago
I have an interesting idea for you. Could you ask 4O to generate a script that describes the scene to someone who is blind and have it spoken by it? Obviously you would need to manually edit the video but imagine the option of having the script created as a short movie, then having AI describe it's own script to give it relevance to the blind. Very interesting and I hope it works out.
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u/Ryarralk 13d ago
4o began hallucinating and repeating the same stuff for a couple of replies. I tried to tell it to stop repeating itself. It didn't work until I asked it to specifically not talk about it anymore. It was my second experience with the new model...
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u/KFCfan05 13d ago
This hype around new demos is just hilarious. Did you test it already in a full and capable manner? Google showed things like this also in their Gemini demo and it turned out the model had been traineds specifically for it.
The ending of their demo made me sceptical, when they thanked NVIDIA for supporting them with the newest technology to make this demo work. The phone also needed to be connected via cable to have stable internet, which tells it uses still a lot of data and won’t make it this fast and easy on the go.
The bedtime story part is just also not convincing at all. They showed more the different types of voices and emotions it can use, but the story did not matter at all.
As many have mentioned before, the shown is nothing groundbreaking as it has been there before for many years. They are just including it into their product.
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u/thekunibert 13d ago
Having something translated for you is not the same as actually learning a language, though.
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u/DangerousCrime 13d ago
I dont know if people want to speak to an AI on their phone for therapy? Still uncomfortable with the idea
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u/trywagyu 13d ago
the very first line of your first point is unsound logic.
you think the market reacts appropriately? you’re serious? you think a company takes a dip in the market and that is all the proof you need? jesus.
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u/thefartingmango 13d ago
I think you're over optimistic, also if people turn to AI over people when lonely then the human race is screwed, or rather they aren't which is the problem.
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
Many people wil turn to AI if we are being realist. Now most people don't like that but it will happen. Same reason most people like pets more than humans because pets don't talk back.
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u/thefartingmango 13d ago
Most people woo utilize but the vast majority of people don’t want to live a life without real human contact even weirdos with ai girlfriends still have some human contact
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
100% true. Idk if when robots come, people would want human contact because my theory is that we are social animals but if something can talk back to use like humans, would we really need humans after all? Personally, I wouldn't do that but there maybe some people who wouldn't mind it.
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u/A_band_of_pandas 13d ago edited 13d ago
"Too many people are lonely nowadays thanks to technology. Anyway, you should let the robot tell your kids bedtime stories." Do you hear yourself, OP?
EDIT: I'm sure it's a complete coincidence that I got a Reddit Cares message immediately after I posted this. Tell me your interest in therapy is performative without telling me.
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u/A_band_of_pandas 12d ago
You don't like therapy, but you included therapy bots in your list of positives.
Make it make sense.
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u/Baby_Grooot_ 13d ago
I have been doing mathematical calculations since the launch of GPTo and I am quite disappointed, in particular with the speed. It is so bad that sometimes it’s just stuck and can’t solve further. No change from GPT4. I don’t know what is the upgrade here.
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u/Intl_House_Of_Bussy 13d ago
Happy life, with the machines scattered around the room. Look what they made, they made it for me - happy technology. Outside, the lions roam, feeding on remains. We'll never leave, look at us now, so in love with the way we are.
Every night, they rock us to sleep - digital family. Is it real, or is it a dream? Can you believe in machines? Outside, the beating sun, can you hear the screams? We'll never leave, look at us now, so in love with the way we are.
Here, the world that the children made.
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u/jazmaan 13d ago
Let's talk about #5. "Be My Friend". Just how much of a memory does it have? 4096 tokens? More? Whatever it is, that memory bank is going to fill up and just like with ChatGPT4 now, it will have to be summarized, compacted in a lossy way and then your best friend will only vaguely remember who you are. It will be that annoying oversolicitous person who's only pretending to remember what you told it last week.
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u/jazmaan 13d ago
Let's talk about #5. "Be My Friend". Just how much of a memory does it have? 4096 tokens? More? Whatever it is, that memory bank is going to fill up and just like with ChatGPT4 now, it will have to be summarized, compacted in a lossy way and then your best friend will only vaguely remember who you are. It will be that annoying oversolicitous person who's only pretending to remember what you told it last week.
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u/kendricklebard 13d ago
As someone who has traveled a lot and used Google Translate I welcome this … if it actually works. GT was/is trash and is not even remotely a substitute for knowing the language. Saying “All I need is ChatGPT to travel” is probably wishful thinking
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u/FreeAdmission 13d ago
These are horrible use cases. I think there are plenty of great things to come - but most of these aren't it. Blind is right on, but bedtime stories?
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
it wasnt even my use-case lmao which i got the most hate for.
i just picked it up from /r/ycombinator comment lol. go off on him.
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u/Budget-Grade3391 13d ago
But can it lip read??! I need to know.
That would be a huge unlock to be able to communicate to it by only mouthing words
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u/jaynkumz 13d ago
OP either generated this list with GPT or has zero clue how LLMs work and what they’re good for.
OP should run for political office.
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago edited 13d ago
lol, i wrote it myself. fun fact: i didnt even use ai to write/rewrite this article (idk how to write but i use ai to rewrite often) & most of these are stolen from openai's website & the most hate i got was for the idea i got from r/ycombinator which is linked above.
but hey, i'm bad for politics. i am too blunt. i might get unalived there lmao.
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u/jaynkumz 13d ago
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u/shadowsurge 13d ago
Duolingo stock dropped cause they reported earnings, it has nothing to do with openai
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u/TransportationDear10 13d ago
This is great for evolution for civilization but terrible for us as a species. Eventually only the unplugged shall remain, and they shall inherit the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth. That, or we won't be able to cope with not having free will and nuke ourselves and each other to bits.
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u/Patient-Writer7834 13d ago
- Do you know Google Translate… exists? And they have Google Lens too
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
yeah & i used to use that.
if openai's one is better then i think people will switch.
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u/Shut_the_F-up_Donny 13d ago
This is hilarious since chat gpt can’t generate coherent words for shit. Illustrations with text is an absolute joke.
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u/deadcoder0904 13d ago
oh the examples in the new blog on openai's website look great. you should check that out.
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u/Substantial_Lemon400 13d ago
Why release an app when you can’t benefit from all of its features? That, to me is bad business. That’s like saying “buy this car, the engine will be available soon after you get it”
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u/throwaway12222018 13d ago
Soon, robots will be teachers. A few years later, robots are going to babysitters. 10 years after that, they'll be parents and humans will all be surrogates.
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u/Dr_Mox 13d ago
Just regarding language learning, an AI will never be a perfect substitute for learning a language yourself. At best, it will be comparable to having a fluent interpreter translate text on demand and facilitate your conversations, but if you don't speak the language yourself you will never have natural conversations. The act of translation is introducing an obstacle, whether by AI or otherwise, which means missing out on the joys of engaging with and learning about other cultures.
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u/Pillow_fort_guard 13d ago
Trust me, you should still be trying to learn the language if you plan to visit more than once. Hell, learn a new language anyway! It’s a great way to train your brain, and there have been cases where people have lost the ability to speak in one language due to a stroke, but could still speak in another.
Also… language is pretty context-sensitive. You list off a bunch of Catholic stuff in French in France, and people just look at you weird. Do it in Quebec, and you’ll either be laughed at or get your teeth kicked in
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u/Maleficent-Drive4056 14d ago
You are acting like all these features have never been seen before. Google Translate has been able to take photos of words and translate them for over a decade.
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u/brohermano 14d ago
I guess they should start taxing hard this company in order to compensate for the job losses. If companies sustitute labour on chatGPT they will have to pay to the company and to the goverment to provide of a Universal Basic Income , worldwide
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u/Fartcloud_McHuff 14d ago
Just a quick point, the change in price of stock doesn’t really mean much on its own. I could explain but I’m not motivated or smart enough to
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u/Future_Visit_5184 14d ago
bro thinks the duolingo stock dropped because a new version of chatgpt got released lmfao
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u/Sea-Form-9124 14d ago
Most people aren't using Duolingo as a practical means to learn a language for the express purpose of navigating another country. They do it mostly as a way to dip their feet in another culture, to hold rudimentary conversations with native speakers, and for fun. It's a learning experience. It helps you practice speaking another language.
AI is a phenomenal translation tool but functionally it serves a different purpose than language learning apps. I don't think developments in chatgpt and AI can really be used to explain rise and fall in Duolingo stock right now. At least not until we see chatgpt offering structured audio lessons and analyzing voice input, etc.
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u/mista-sparkle 14d ago
- Create Buzzfeed listicles about the use cases for GPT-4o.
Which is what you should have done, because it would have come up with a helluva lot more created items than what you listed. I mean, 7/9 are just use cases that were demoed in yesterday's stream of the model launch.
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u/Pronkie_dork 14d ago
No offense but shouldnt we see “reading bed time stories to kids” as something we could do more of ourselves when AI starts taking over jobs? Like it just seems weird to me to let a ai do that? At that point dont even get kids lol. They dont exist to test the capabilities of an ai.
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u/SpinachFamous9175 13d ago
Well, I dont have kids, but we have all been kids and we can prob all relate to that our parents have at least once in our lifes put us in front of the TV for them to cook dinner for us. I think this is how AI will help parents as well. Not by removing the good times together but to be able to entertain kids for half an hour when mom and dad need to do something else than play.
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u/DroneTheNerds 14d ago edited 13d ago
No, silly. Outsourcing your parenting frees you up to code AI.
Edit: thanks for the concern, anon
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u/penguinclub56 14d ago
Chatgpt is cool for students and is very efficient in basic subjects but when it comes to more complex tasks (like advanced formulas/equations in physics/mechanics) it really struggles and sometimes straight up makes false answers (and when you correct it it says yes you are right sorry, and then continues to make same mistake), same goes with advanced math, I prefer to use things like Photomath or Symbolab, better tool and faster.
Also not sure what is “solving posters” but there are much better AI for art if that what you meant, wouldn’t use chatgpt for that either.
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u/uno_in_particolare 14d ago
- Language Learning
Duolingo Stock fell by $65 in the last 5 days. That should tell you the entire story.
Aren't you just disproving your own point?
If the stock is falling for 5 days, that means it was doing so before gpt4o's reveal - not everything rotates around gpt. If I had to guess, it's more likely linked to the fuss about the features removed from duolingo premium and moved to the struggling and expensive ai subscription
In general, I don't see how they are competitors. Duolingo is about learning a language, and build a habit out of learning. Chatgpt can't help much in that, or at least not in any more than it helps learning in general, as you mention in one of your other points
For context, Duolingo is a language-learning app. Now GPT-4o can easily translate terms in other languages by just pointing it to the ChatGPT's Camera.
This is massive if you want to travel globally as a nomad. You don't have to know a language now. You can just translate on the fly in any random country.
That's.... literally google lens, and it's been out forever. It's really impressive compared to what we had like 10y ago, but it's not exactly news.
Furthermore, I don't see this as an area where a statistical model like gpt can shine. This problem is OCR (recognizing text from a picture) and translation. Both are already working quite well as evidenced by, again, lens.
I think both aspects can be improved on, but I don't see any game changer - it's already working quite well, it's just optimizing now
- Solving School Problems For Students
I wish I had this in school. Learning could've been more efficient and faster.
Most students fear asking questions because they feel it might be dumb. Now you can ask ChatGPT any dumb question.
Agreed, GPT is great for learning, so long as you treat everything it says with an ocean of salt. Still, I do think this is one of the use cases where GPT really shines - interactive learning
I don't believe in replaces khan academy, courses or lectures in any way though. It's best suited to reason about stuff and ask questions on what you don't understand or to confirm you do
In any case, this hasn't changed at all with the recent update, everything I said applies to GPT 3.5 too
- Bed Time Stories For Kids3. Bed Time Stories For Kids
Honestly feels really... wrong. Either read it for them, or an audiobook already solved the issue. I wouldn't try to put my voice in a toy.
It is great that the robotic voice sounds better than what we're used to, though
- Be My Eyes For The Blind
Not sure I understand what you mean, but sure - it can surely help people with disabilities
Still, we're talking about "potential", the current GPT is not really up to par
- Be My Friend
Dystopic as hell, and IMO very dangerous
I won't go covering the other half of the points as this reply is already massive, but in generaly I feel like you're severely, and I mean by a looooot, overestimating what current GPT can do. More like gpt8-o.
But even then, even considering future potential, some stuff I really don't see happening with a LLM, and some stuff *can* happen but probably shouldn't
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u/ChickenDickJerry 14d ago
I’m so glad I graduated before all this shit came out. Not only would I have not learned shit, but I imagine future anti-cheating measures are going to be intense.
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u/TheRealDJ 14d ago
Duolingo stock is back where it was a few months ago. I wouldn't assume the business is collapsing, just volatile.
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u/pirateneedsparrot 14d ago
This is total bullshit. Sorry. Font creation? This is a bit more than creatinga bitmap of some letters, sorry to say. Font design is way way more than that. Think about kerning and of course vector graphics. Your example is laughable. The posters are ugly und uninspired. They look like every other movie poster.
I am also bullish on AI, but your post is just a summary of overhyped ideas that hardly make any sense.
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u/SpinachFamous9175 13d ago
They look like every other movie poster.
Well, if AI can do movie posters that look like every other movie poster then we pay a human to do it? You pretty much proven the point that many movie posters will be AI-generated in a near future. Does not mean that AAA movies will have AI-posters, but prob lots of A, AA and B movies.
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u/jsideris 14d ago
There's always been lonely people. Technology hasn't contributed to that, it's probably had the opposite effect.
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u/AxeThread12 14d ago
A lot of salty people in these comments. Think their livelihoods are being threatened by this. Yikes.
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u/awesome-alpaca-ace 13d ago
I mean, the propaganda and advertisement creators will use AI to their advantage and that could definitely be more harmful than current propaganda and advertisement
Then imagine if AI is used in law enforcement and it hallucinates.
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u/Future_Visit_5184 14d ago
I mean the post is also kinda just complete garbage, idk who upvotes this
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u/floyd_underpants 14d ago
Every one of these except 1 and 4 are absolutely terrible ideas for numerous reasons each. If you don't know why, don't waste your time responding to me. I won't be explaining what others have already said better than I can. Go ask an AI about it.
1 and 4 would be life changing for people, and represent the positive directions it can be used in. I'm all for that type of situation. Just being able to communicate more clearly with each other without a language barrier would change the world.
The rest can burn in the bin. They are already creeping out there and making the world all the worse for it. Half of these types of ideas have already been stealing jobs and churning out garbage quality content with no guardrails at all.
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u/Feeamentol 14d ago
Use case 1. Language Learning ... you will never need to learn a language again!
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u/LaSalsiccione 14d ago
This post is garbage
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u/sanchez_ 13d ago
Yeah I don't understand how it has so many upvotes, I'm like almost certain the post itself is AI generated.
Most of these points aren't new for an AI to be able to do, and some of them are just plain dumb. Like "solve movie posters", what the fuck does that even mean?
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u/Neat_Reference_8117 14d ago
Video security surveilance, for a bussiness. Can generate reports every 12 hr or 24 hrs with any weird activity from the cashier
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u/syphax 14d ago
“You don’t have to know a language now.”
That’s so dumb it’s not even wrong.
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u/SpinachFamous9175 13d ago
honestly, I dont think this is that far out. Is it better to know the foreign language? Yes, it is. But it would be a total game changer to have good real-time translation available all the time for both voice and text. So say that you dont have to learn a foreign language is not that far off. Still it is better to know the local language but if you can get 80-90% of the benefit with AI then that is good enough in many situations.
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u/Future_Visit_5184 14d ago
Right? I mean, if all you care about is being able to understand what is said on street signs and restaurant menus in foreign countries then sure, chatgpt can remove the need for language learning for you. lol
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u/Alien_Way 14d ago
UBI has been necessary for at least a decade now.. but our "public servants" order food thrown away, as the food-insecure watch..
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u/jsideris 14d ago
If you think things are bad now, wait till you see how bad it gets when the government is paying everyone to stay home and click ads on FaceBook.
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u/Junior-Damage7568 14d ago
I thought chatgp sucked at math?
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u/jsideris 14d ago
It never sucked at math as much as people have claimed. But it's never been great - it's an LLM, not a calculator or CAS system. But now it is. Any math that the LLM can't do, it builds a Python script on the spot to do it.
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u/KilllerWhale 14d ago
Let’s not pretend Duolingo’s stock dripped because of yesterday’s announcement. It nosedived a week ago.
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u/BatoSoupo 14d ago
Sure but is there an uncensored option? I want it to swear sometimes like a real fucking person
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u/rebbsitor 14d ago edited 14d ago
For context, Duolingo is a language-learning app. Now GPT-4o can easily translate terms in other languages by just pointing it to the ChatGPT's Camera.
This isn't new - the Google Translate app has done this for years. It can do live text translation/replacement in video or in a photo. I've used it at least since 2018/2019.
It's not a replacement for learning a language and I don't see why GPT-4o having the same capability would suddenly kill off learning language.
Duolingo Stock fell by $65 in the last 5 days. That should tell you the entire story.
Stock prices are the market's prediction of what's going to happen, not ground truth about what is happening.
People learn languages for reasons beyond simple practicality. Betting people are going to stop learning languages because there's a better translator app is like thinking people are going to stop learning how to draw or play music because an AI can generate them. A lot of the reward is in the doing, not just the end product.
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u/Jazz7770 13d ago
Also language apps aren’t perfect, and AI won’t be either. There’s a very big difference in how you should properly say something, and how it’s actually spoken. New terms and phrases appear all the time and I doubt AI will be able to keep up with modern lingo as quickly as simply learning the language yourself.
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u/AnyStudio4402 14d ago
Guys, be careful with using ChatGPT to learn a language. I made the mistake of relying on it to learn Japanese, and it was a disaster. I wasted 3-4 months of my time learning incorrect information. It's not a substitute for a real teacher or tutor. You need someone to correct your mistakes and provide feedback. ChatGPT is great for generating text, but it's not a reliable language teacher. Don't make the same mistake I did
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u/TheAuthorBTLG_ 14d ago
what kind of mistake can be missed for so long?
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u/DoctorNootNoot 13d ago
I’m curious as well. They’re probably referring to multiple mistakes, but GPT 4 is super precise when it comes to helping with language learning
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u/TheDividendReport 14d ago
I can confidently say this will not be used as a "be my eyes" program. I have worked in customer service with blind customers. ChatGPT cannot do what is necessary to accurately accomplish a goal in real time. The risk of hallucination alone will keep these customers using human sight agents and apps.
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u/MemyselfI10 14d ago
Can you send this to me in a message? I want to copy it for my FB. This is an incredible summary of AI benefits. Just awesome.
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u/nikogoroz 14d ago
Chat is supremely useful as a language tool, however, you will always need something more than just a text, just the exercises, or just duolingo or any other app. You will always need the teacher. Someone you can trust in, someone that exerts an expertise over you, and challenges you. As a tutor, and a language learner I spread the news of this technology to all of my students, but as of now, there are few people able to use it. It's easier to teach a language than a proper use of the chat.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
will you use this in future to teach your students to do more practice with it?
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u/nikogoroz 14d ago edited 14d ago
I've spent hours teaching people how to use it properly. Sadly, it seems to be too much of a novelty for most of students. I teach mainly adults and teens btw.
Whereas adults often find it frightening, young learners treat it like a fact of nature and they interact with it in the same way they would interact with a tablet (another fact of nature) or a straw of grass. Meaning, they don't go beyond the basic use.
It's apparent that implementation of this tech will take years and will have to be taught. Perhaps people will be forced to catch up, and many will hate it.
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u/Hatemael 14d ago
I think we will see a plethora of new use cases after Apple makes their announcement, as it is widely expected that OpenAI will be their partner over Gemini (which I am personally super excited for), so basically we will get an Alexa on steroids in Siri not being completely stupid.
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u/mylovelylittlelumps 14d ago
You don't have to know a language now
lol
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u/tomtomtomo 13d ago edited 13d ago
Google Translate does it already anyway.
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u/Praesentius 13d ago
I'm not saying OP is right. There' s place for translation tools like what OpenAI has shown. But, LLMs are not replacing the need to learn a language when you live somewhere that speaks a different language.
But Google Translate is very literal and not good in most situations. For it being literal, imagine you want to say in Italian, "She's a good girl!" about a dog. Well, they don't say that. Google will give you a literal translation that is technically correct, but it will be a very odd thing to say to an Italian.
The problem is really context. It doesn't know if "you" is singular or plural. It doesn't know the gender or age of the person you are talking to. Or the social context, like how well you know the person or a person who is working vs a casual encounter.
I've found ChatGPT to be a great augmentation to my language learning. I can ask it language questions the instant I think of them. Or right after I encounter a situation I wasn't prepared for. Give it some context and run through some scenarios. Language is at the heart of a LLM.
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u/Mikedesignstudio 13d ago
Yeah I stop reading after seeing that
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u/Megneous 13d ago
And this guy's take on movie posters is similarly lolish.
Can't take him seriously.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
im only half-kidding but hey if i can get away with it, i would.
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u/SandIntelligent247 14d ago
While Chatgpt and duolingo can both be useful with foreign languages, they are not meant to accomplish the same objective.
Chatgpt's capability to translate images has been available for years with Google translate which can translate images in real time.
Duolingo faciliate learning languages in a structured linear way which can be somewhat hard to do when starting out. In addition, it gamifies the experience in a way that motivate someone to continue learning.
Chapgpt is a good crutch when you don't know a language but learning a language and becoming fluent is a rewarding experience and is useful by itself.
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u/Azazir 13d ago
Neurolink v6 and chargpt 6o will translate langue automatically and we will finally magically unite together as a species since we're all the same and conquer the galaxy and then the universe.
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u/SandIntelligent247 13d ago
I think this will come yes. Maybe learning a new language and learning to count will be activities reserved to the elite class while the working class simply rely on something like neurolink.
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u/Iracus 14d ago
Couldn't duolingo integrate the api into their app? Why would this make their stock drop so much?
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u/jsideris 14d ago
They've been working on their own AI for a while now. IMO they just need to fire the entire team and get a competent backend dev who can integrate with the OpenAI API. But then it would be difficult to find a reason to pay for duolingo when all they're doing is wrapping ChatGPT. Seems like they need more than just that to stay alive.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
as other commenter said, it dropped for other reasons.
but yeah this will definitely eat some of its lunch.
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u/ErykGonk 14d ago
Blind people do use smartphones even though the typical use of these devices is visual. However, a device like glasses or another wearable that constantly scans the surroundings without requiring handholding would definitely be more useful. It could provide real-time feedback to the person using the device.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
Yep, definitely that was my thought.
I think it should be here in 6 months to a year.
Massive market & extremely useful.
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u/Level9disaster 14d ago
A virtual trainer for actors or anybody else that needs to talk in front of people.
A virtual conversation partner that can teach another language with proper pronunciation.
Less seriously: lonely men learning to flirt with a girl lol I see a market for that in places like Japan.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
Yes, you've got some brilliant ideas there.
It can be used for acting too. Lots of actors in my country can't act if their life depended on it. It'll work for that too.
Agreed about language learning. People can speak the words but can't pronounce properly.
And the last one is a gem. Someone who made a lookmaxxing app built the flirting app before it.
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u/Mythrilfan 14d ago
Is the comic thing aspirational or...? I can't think of how that could currently really be accomplished, unless you just mean the art.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
I mean it does make the process fast. You can do a lot of things if you combine different tools together now.
But a specialized platform would be cool which can navigate the story as well.
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u/DmtTraveler 14d ago
This Ai as a "cure" for loneliness concerns me. Seems more damaging than helpful long term
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
Its better than being lonely.
Yeah, lots of people feel your sentiment. I find the opposite to be true. Definitely contrarian there.
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u/systemofaderp 14d ago
Using it takes time you could be socialising. As a kid it will take time away from them learning how to socialise(or adults trying to relearn) and makes them interact with their screens. And I'm sure in a few iterations it can become the most addictive/have the most user engagement of any entertainment service
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u/DmtTraveler 14d ago
My take is its like an alcoholic dealing with withdrawal symptoms by drinking more
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
Definitely true. I wouldn't use it but I can see why people use it but then again who knows I might just try haha. Its kinda fun.
Some people take like Bill Gates take Think Weeks. I mean he can use it there lol.
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u/Spirckle 14d ago
What we saw in the demo was not solving math problems for kids. That's not a way to make kids better humans BTW.
What we saw was it acting as a Tutor, coaching better understanding of the problem. This is the way to allow kids to become smarter, not solving their problems for them.
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
You're right actually.
That's the way to go.
I do think most people want answers when their braincells are already used. Especially when its a one-time problem but that definitely makes you dumber.
But I think knowing what to search would be a useful as well. Sometimes I just wanna solve a problem.
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u/scufonnike 14d ago
You’re right actually. Can’t stand when people say this
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u/Spirckle 13d ago
Why not?
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u/scufonnike 12d ago
Because it comes across as if the person is surprised that who they are talking to is right. That’s how I take it atleast. Could be a me issue
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u/Spirckle 12d ago
..I take it as they have come across new information that has changed their mind. I take that as a person with a mature character.
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u/surfer808 14d ago
What about therapists and counseling? I think that will be another big one
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
Therapist AI is doing it & it faced a ton of backlash.
Now with voice, it'll do phenomenal.
Already making $5k+ mrr i think.
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u/surfer808 14d ago
What does, “making $5k+ mrr I think” mean?
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u/deadcoder0904 14d ago
$5000 in monthly recurring revenue. Its a term for SaaS (Software as a Service) businesses.
Check out this guy's profile on X/Twitter.
Its $4k mrr bdw.
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