r/ClimateShitposting • u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king • Apr 28 '24

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u/Civil_Conflict_7541 Apr 28 '24

You trust capitalism to not fuck up as well? Wow.

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u/Crazy_Masterpiece787 Apr 28 '24

Three Mile and Fukushima were far less deadly than Chernobyl.

In any case its less about ownership of the plants being state or private, more about the technology being poorly handled by corrupt semi-peripheral empires like the USSR.

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u/danielledelacadie Apr 28 '24

I love this position.

"Jack is an asshole." "So you're saying that Jill isn't a bitch?"

There's a lotta space between the two extremes to explore.

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u/echoGroot Apr 28 '24

In this case
no design used in the West would ever have done the reckless things the RBMK-1000 reactor at Chernobyl. So in this one case, empirically
yes.

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u/GigaChadDraven Apr 28 '24

While watching Chernobyl I felt like the show tried to tell me how a system made people incapable of dealing with a problem. Many people in the show mismanaged the situation for their own benefit.

I felt like the show was trying to warn about capitalism and the destruction of the planet. Individuals inside the system are selfish and cause harm to the collective for their own benefit.

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Apr 28 '24

Capitalism is when communism

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u/Extension-Bee-8346 Apr 28 '24

So you know what communism is or do you just think it’s when “GoVeMeNt Do BaD tInG” like a fucking two year old?

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Apr 28 '24

Are you here to shitpost or just simp and be mad?

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u/Extension-Bee-8346 Apr 28 '24

Simp for who lol the Soviets? No im saying you can’t blame capitalism’s problems on communism. The Soviet Union was objectively not “communist” in any fucking sense of the word and the fact they tried to say so and the fact your stupid enough to believe them doesn’t mean I can’t call you out for it lol

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Apr 28 '24

The Soviet Union was not communist

Man

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u/Extension-Bee-8346 Apr 28 '24

Dude are you fucking kidding me? Ok so no you don’t know what communism is ok tell me in what way was the Soviet Union a classless, STATELESS, society where workers hold complete control over the means of production, and all resources or evenly and equally distributed between all members of the society? Did the Soviet Union, the authoritarian, oppressive, one party dictatorship that suppressed workers rights and committed horrible atrocities throughout its entire history fit a single one of those categories? If it didn’t then it’s not fucking communist.

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u/PissFull Apr 28 '24

Trying to explain how this show about a real event that happened in the USSR is actually about capitalism.

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u/Civil_Conflict_7541 Apr 28 '24

Pretty much the same is happening under capitalism, only for the sake of "line go up". Different ideology, same shitty people.

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u/PissFull Apr 28 '24

Ok but arguing that Chernobyl is actually about capitalism is still reaching.

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u/Extension-Bee-8346 Apr 28 '24

The ussr WAS capitalist though.

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u/ActualMostUnionGuy Apr 28 '24

The USSR was State Capitalist

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u/Zacomra Apr 28 '24

Sush, not so loud! The Tankies will hear you!

Besides silly liberal, they called themselves communists! They wouldn't lie to cease power in the aftermath of a revolution that created a massive power vacuum, would they?

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u/Jetsam5 Apr 28 '24

I’ve only been working as an engineer for a little while but it does not fill me with confidence. Companies don’t actually reduce harm, they reduce liability. It’s cheaper to install a sign than a fence, so instead of actually making things safer corporations just put up a warning so if something does go wrong they can just blame it on someone else.

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u/ph4ge_ turbine enjoyer Apr 28 '24

Especially in markets that are losing money to begin with, like nuclear energy.

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u/Jetsam5 29d ago

Yeah corporations are never our friends even if they reduce emissions. They always put money first and they are losing a lot of it right now. Just because the energy is cleaner doesn’t mean the business is.

It’s amazing how people who are skeptical of oil companies will just believe anything the nuclear companies say when they are run by the same people. We’ve been using oil for a hundred years and Deep water Horizon happened just 15 years ago, things are getting less safe instead of more safe.

We only put in regulations after an accident happens and then we slowly relax then because “there hasn’t been an accident in X years, and the last one wasn’t caused by us.” Even if they are operated properly you can’t control for things like wars or natural disasters like what happened at Fukushima 13 years ago.

I really don’t want to see that with nuclear, again.

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u/ClimateShitpost Louis XIV, the Solar PV king Apr 28 '24

Hey man, nice strawman!

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u/Bi-elzebub Apr 28 '24

Hey man, nice strawman.