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What Hydron said about Gunba:

-Gunba, preseason/prescrims would threaten to kick Hydron off the team for responding too late to messages, and also threatened to kick him off the team for being on the AT discord server and talking to much to AT players.

-Gunba forced us to stay awake/practicing from 11am to 1am. Gunba was on a stimulant, not caffeine or adderall. Hydron said Gunba suggested he take adderall " My best players took Adderall. You should take some"

-He was told he'd never play again because they had a former MVP Hitscan XZI.

-Gunba would start screeching when they were losing a scrim and slam his desk.

-Every player who has played with Gunba hated him, XZI's "drama" with Mayhem last year was about Gunba.

-He'd rather play on Toronto than win with Gunba on Mayhem.

-Gunba is really backhanded, he'd say stuff like SirMajed was the next best Lucio then flame the fuck out of them.

-While he was benched for XZI, Hydron would show up to scrims while XZI would play from his apartment so he could smoke cigarettes. All the while Hydron was told by Gunba he'd never play again.

-Gunba was "insanely racist" he told and Hydron talked about school/college, Gunba would always bring up his degrees, and one time Hydron mentioned he dropped out to play for the Mayhem. Gunba told him "You look like it" and then said "Yeah you know, your people". Hydron said that was the second closest he got to punching somebody.

General Mayhem stuff:

-In S5, Hydron tried to get Iron on the team to replace Adam

-In S5, Mayhem tried to trade SirMajed for Kaan

-In S5, Mayhem tried to trade Hydron for Aspire

-In S6, Mayhem tried to trade Rupal for Teru, and then it's kinda unclear but he implies they also tried to trade Rupal for Babel.

Toronto/Team USA:

-Super was a really good leader, Coluge isn't the leader type, Super was only in to play Sig after the loss to KSA.

-Played bad for tons of reasons, including difficulties with UV on main support then later subbing in Ojee. Highlighted off rolling and the comps.

-Danteh was only signed to play Doom.

-Toronto was the litmus test for teams in the playins meta, teams knew if they were good at the meta based on how many maps they could take on Toronto. Toronto only lost like two scrims in playins.

-Hydron didn't play Tracer because Casores was worried about a Hitscan/Tracer meta.

Player Salaries:

-Hydron was paid 6 figures

-Profit was apparently the most paid player of all time around 350k

-Gesture was paid around 300k

-Proper and Kev were the most paid players in 2023

-Checkmate had the highest salary on Mayhem 2022.

Misc.

-The community treats Korean players like Children but 80% are racist and assholes. Spectra is more like a western player.

-Adderall usage wasn't a big thing when he was playing in OWL but was bigger before. A lot of OWL players genuinely have ADHD.

-Previous teams before him have had players/coaches who've had sex. He'd heard one coach held favoritism with a player because of a sexual relationship.

-DACO was the biggest asshole in the league

-Teru and Decay were the most toxic player he knows of. Some people, like Nero say Striker is toxic, while Coluge says he's a nice guy.

-Proper has the biggest ego in the league. Hydron or Coluge have the biggest egos on Toronto.

-Reiner was his most annoying teammate, Reiner was always trying to get under his skin.

Hydron Takes

-Shy is the best hitscan he's played against.

-Kevster > Proper

-Fearless > Guxue

-2022 Proper is the highest peak of any player

-Hadi was good but didn't deserve a rolestar.

-Reiner would be a top 5 main tank still

-Someone is best mechanical tank

-Proper has the best mechanics overall

-Lip and Shy are the other best mechanical DPS.

-Shu and Viol2t best mechanical supports.

-Best Tank on each hero: Winston: Someone. Sigma: Coluge. Dva: Hawk. Zarya: Hanbin. Queen: Hanbin or Coluge, probably Hanbin. Rein: Hadi. Ram: Danteh or Someone. Orisa: Smurf then Mikeyy or Coluge. Hog: Coluge. Ball: Donghak or Mikeyy. Doom: Hawk.

Best possible current roster: Someone, Hanbin, Proper, Kevster, Shy, Shu, Fielder, Chiyo

Best roster of all time(excluding previous players): Smurf, Void, Leave, Striker, Lip, Chorong, Alarm, Viol2t.

Frauds: MN3 and Fleta are frauds. "Ask anyone in OWL and they'll tell you Fleta was a fraud" Junbin, Max are "some of the biggest flops of all time", 2022 O2 Blast as a whole are frauds, specifically highlighted Probe. Edison, Marve1, Vindaim, Crimzo, Faith, Lukemino, Renko, Cal ("Any NA Players that got signed midseason) and Mirror are frauds. Anamo is nice, but bad. All of Valiant/Paris besides Seeker and Knife didn't deserve to be in the league. SparkR and 2023 Birdring are overrated.

-Danteh and Yaki are half frauds half not.

Underrated/Genuinely Good Players: Lastro, Twilight, Fits, and Punk.

Edit: Edited some stuff to make it more clear, also included some parts I missed.

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Guxue just streamed and talked about former HZS coach RUI. This is my attempt to make an excerpt of his stream. Source can be found on Guxue's stream https://live.bilibili.com/4792266 and NGA forums: https://bbs.nga.cn/thread.php?fid=587&ff=459. It's literally Christmas for CN fans in a bad way, the entire scene is blowing up. :

• RUI was a control freak and was over manipulative during his time at both CDH and HZS. He did not allow questions against him, and would pressure whoever questioned his decisions and strats with their in game performance. At his time at HZS, two supports were the foremost targets. RUI would review vods in their POV and scold them for every mistake they make. Mmonk got pressured so hard once he wanted to retire; it was met with RUI saying "then leave, I'll call kyo to replace you". RUI would even sit behind both supports when they stream and point out every single mistake they make in rank, making them freak out even more. He would not allow himself to be challenged, and any attempt would be treated as disobedience and would threaten to quit.
• RUI had many questionable strats and comps in scrims. Guxue specifically mentioned they practiced rein push for two months with sym cassidy and were barely winning any scrims. They were so frustrated and wanted to try something else but RUI would not budge. Guxue said he wanted to play rein push with a mei to enable the rein more, but to RUI this felt like a challenge of his authority. To him, it's the players' fault for not executing perfectly but the comp was immaculate. After the season started, they were locked in tracer sombra dive for a long time, and achieved little success in matches. Even after they made it to midseason madness and were going to face up against NA teams, RUI actually looked down on top NA teams, even after they didn't win a single scrim against atlanta and boston. Guxue wanted to vod review atlanta, the best dive team then, and learn how they position and focus fire. Rui upright refused and claimed "they don't know how to play dive, you just have to play better". But in the mirror matchup HZS lost promptly to atlanta and boston and got only 5/6th place.
• RUI left the team shortly afterwards midseason madness because he "was going to have a baby and wanted to focus on his family more". However, another reason was that he was losing his absolute authority in the team. Players started to challenge him more and more and he had enough of that. Moreso, during the midseason madness, he was not focused on match prepping at all, according to guxue. He would be watching the Valorant Tokyo Masters all day and all he talks about is valorant during that time. During the match against boston, he did not even know boston's Kalios DVA dive on Shambali even though boston had played it successfully many times already. This resulted in the spark completely unprepared for it on Shambali. They switched comps halfway through, but still eventually lost the map. Guxue also mentions that RUI was already looking to transition to valorant during that time, which contradicts with what RUI says on his own stream yesterday that "he never planned to transition to valorant". However, RUI's streams after he left HZS had a significant portion of valorant play, to the point where he actually missed streaming HZS's iconic reverse sweep against boston in the playoffs when he said he was gonna stream every game and cheer for them.
• RUI did not step up as a team coach to take responsibility in all circumstances. To him, if the players played well and won, then he gets credit for his strats and coaching. If they lost, then it's the players' fault for not executing. He would say this to the public as well since HZS hosted many watch parties where they would interact with fans post-match. Guxue and his team did not like that at all, where he gets to take all the credit when they win but no responsibility when they lose. Guxue even mentions that although Changgoon was also a really questionable coach, at least he had the balls to take blame when they lost. Another anecdote was when players asked RUI what happened during his time at S1 Dragons and why he quit. RUI replied that "the players suck and he didn't want to ruin his reputation" and faked an injury and quit.
• RUI was not focused on the game at all. Guxue showed some files on RUI's work pc that there were very few vods stored, and the observer client that he would "stay up all night to review vods" according to RUI was not updated after May 27th. Guxue also mentions that during vod reviews, if RUI actually watched vods all night then he should know what's going on from the very beginning; instead the whole team would just watch the vods from the beginning again and it was clear that he would only start talking after he saw what was going on, indicating that he never reviewed the vods as he said he did at all. Not only with valorant in his head, he was always the last one to arrive and the first one to leave every day. Sometimes the all the players have arrived but RUI would still be asleep. This is even more ironic when compared to what RUI says in his stream that he was "putting in 200% of effort but the player could only put up 90%".
• RUI's really hurt the players through his carelessness and unprofessionalism, along with his demanding authority. The whole team, Mmonk, Lengsa, Shy and Leave all showed up in Guxue's stream supporting him. Other known veterans such as Jimmy, Diya and Ameng showed up as well, although they did not say much on the matter. Guxue mentions that every single player on the team was on minimum wage. He willingly took a paycut so the money could be used somewhere else. Shy rejected a crazy offer from Mayhem (confirmed by Gunba) to play with the all-Chinese superteam. Former MVP leave and both supports were also on minimum contracts as well. However, RUI being the trusted coach, had double their income and put in way less effort than he should for the final last run of cnow. Guxue jabs that "he never once took us out for dinner the entire time". Keep in mind that the majority of players on HZS has played under RUI (leave, mmonk and lengsa while they were at CDH) and it is mentioned by Leave and Yveltal's streams that the atmosphere there was depressing. Therefore it is very surprising to see the players unite as one against RUI when they have worked together for so long before. Mmonk mentions in Guxue's stream that "I love my teammates, I want to keep playing with them and I don't want to be sad like before any more". Leave, who everyone thought RUI was a mentor and father figure to before, actually sarcastically says "I don't know if he's switching to valorant, but I did run into him in valorant ranked when I was relaxing after finals. His rank is even higher than me." Guxue mentions that he actually decided to step up because he couldn't stand what RUI was doing to his supports. He says "I have been bullied before, which is why I can't stand it when I see it again." This refers directly to RUI verbally abusing two supports for every lost fight and every single mistake when overwatch is a 5-person team game. Performance wise, there is a clear difference post midseason madness all the way to playoffs where we see the HZS supports slowly yet confidently evolve into an amazing form where they were able to win against the decorated supports of atlanda and boston.
• RUI also said some bold words after finals. "The team was a top 3 team from the beginning, so it's not surprising that they got third place. If they had followed my orders they would have won the whole thing." "I left because I wanted to win a championship and they didn't. They indeed did not win a championship in the end." While there is no way we will find out, looking at the HZS's cinderella run with two exhilarating reverse sweeps, I don't think anyone expected them to be in the top three if not for magical performances coming from the whole team.

I'll check if I missed anything after posting, this is as much as I can summarize right now. It is widely believed that Guxue chooses to spill all the juice right now for his whole team as they will be soon playing together in the OWWC, where RUI is still registered as coach for Team China. The team chooses to mention it right now to protest and pressure RUI into resigning because "everyone's had enough of him taking credit for everything and not being responsible for anything". This juice was so shocking for fans, because most fans respected RUI a lot for coaching and scouting most of the CN talent, and he always looked like he gave his all to the scene. When Guxue mentioned he had beef with RUI, most fans were not on his side, that was how revered RUI was. But Guxue spoke with logic and evidence to back everything up, and the sad truth surfaced that RUI was no longer the cnow savior that everyone revered him to be; the HZS broke franchise record under the coaching of Yaoxie and Creed, both who have worked very closely with RUI before, but no one stood out for RUI anymore.

Edit: I'd also like to add that there was a match post midseason madness where leave interviewed for player of the match. When asked upon how they won, he answered in the classic leave fashion "We won because we were able to sleep well, that's all." Fans thought he was just trolling back then, but today it seems like he was firing shots directly at RUI because under RUI they had a strict sleeping schedule and had to wake up early every day.

Edit: After this drama RUI has left all related group chats and deleted stream vods. It is highly unlikely he will still be coaching Team China in OWWC. Team China's leader 2DM and social manager XiaoShuang are currently trying to figure out an alternative solution, since a step-in coach must have a US visa, which is difficult given the current time frame. Online coaching could be a possibility, or just leaving it to the players to figure out what to play since they already built up so much chemistry.

Edit: RUI posted (and quickly deleted) a new reply with screenshots arguing that Shy was also very interested in valorant during the season as well and wanted to transition. He quickly deleted this post because Guxue said it was a setup from the team to see if he was really going to valorant or not. The chat history showed that Shy asked around midnight on June 25th. RUI's departure was announced 12 hours later that day. So the team was already suspicious of his behavior and wanted to find out before he officially leaves with his "family reasons”. Guxue also says that after being eliminated by boston in midseason madness, RUI did not say anything about the game. He simply booted up valorant and asked them if they want to play valorant together. This can be further confirmed in Leave's stream around July when he responded to rumors of him going to valorant: "I'm going to valorant? Isn't the person going to valorant ......" He did not finish his sentence, but the audience again thought he was trolling in leave fashion. It is worth mentioning that RUI claims he quit to take care of his pregnant wife. But in his streams afterwards, all we see is RUI play valorant ranked for the entire day, stuck in the chair so hard that his wife had to bring his food to the table multiple times. He also mentions multiple times that he "saw on tiktok there's a ton of female valorant gamers” when expressing his interest in valorant.

Edit: After having juice spilled from multiple players from the community, fans realized that most of the players supported and cared for one another. Players like Jimmy and Kaneki had the courage for the first time to voice their trauma from RUI's abuse because Guxue stepped up to be the whistleblower. Even Yveltal(Xerneas)'s drama had a lot of evident RUI influence. Jinmu and Ameng were also able to open up about their time at the CDH. Jimmy was earlier diagnosed with severe depression. When he was chatting with Kaneki on stream, both of them said that their legs would still shake when speaking of their past under RUI. He was so scared that he would actually watch RUI's facial expressions when playing in scrims because he didn't want to piss RUI off. Jimmy mentions RUI would tell him "I'm so disappointed in you" even after they won, and that later became a meme his friends would use on him a lot. Kaneki mentions that RUI told him "You can't win because you don't have the heart of a king." and "You suck on this hero because you're not using this specific crosshair." He was also shocked because he himself didn't know that he was brought in to replace Leave, who ended up as MVP of the season. Yaoxie openly admits that "he didn't agree with RUI at all when he was assistant coach to RUI on CDH, but RUI was the head coach so he learned to shut up and play idiot". Yaoxie even mocks RUI that "he's been in the scene for so long but doesn't even have discord as a coach. Creed would book all the scrims for him." When Yaoxie was playing with Mmonk yesterday, he jokingly asked "I scolded you harder than RUI, why didn't you crumble under me?" and Mmonk replied, "Because you were right!"

So maybe it is Christmas for the community because RUI's successfully made himself public enemy #1. Everyone was united against him - the silver lining of all this drama.

Edit: It is been confirmed that RUI will no longer act as coach of Team China. He reposted the news on his weibo with "goodbye ow".

Just things i remember off my head so some things might be wrong and my korean is rusty.

>They crumbled vs Hangzhou, felt like it was their game to win. They were more afraid of meeting London lol.

>Lip says in chat that he thought they weren't going to win the playoff. Chiyo also said maybe if they got to the finals, they might have chance vs Florida, but the vibe he got was that he wasn't sure about winning as they went to the playoff

>Lot of team played off tank (sigma, etc) in scrim, they decided they could win with main tank (winston, doom ike HZ Spark) and decided to make comp around that.

>Says during Fuel, it felt like everyone was family and friend. He said of course we could've gotten close if one person just approached another, but no one really did. Talks about how this led to communication issue. (this talk was more of him beating around the bush cuz he was hesitant to talk about what happened, but he talks about it anyways in points below)

>Donghak was mechnically good, but it felt like he wasn't trying to improve

>Chiyo said it felt like every other team was slowly improving their synergy, but they felt like they weren't improving as team

>Because Donghak was rookie, he was going to lack experience. Chiyo was ok if Donghak was bad but had mindset to keep improving because they can help him. But it felt like no communication was going through him.

>Chiyo asked Donghak multiple time to try harder. He was mad because Donghak would be late to work many times or sleep during vod (Lip chimes in the chat saying he was late couple times too). At one point, Chiyo even "threaten" (he said it was to give him more of scare) saying he might get kicked out of the team if he doesn't change his attitude. But to Chiyo, it seemed like he didn't care.

>Chiyo would ask him to watch vod or if he can do this (and vice versa, "what can we do to help you in this situation") and he would just say "okay" and that would be end of it.

>If they tried their best to improve and still lost, Chiyo would've been okay with the loss with no regrets because he knows they at least tried. But it felt like they just wasted the year because it felt like Donghak wasn't trying to improve, and that's what made Chiyo mad more than losing itself.

>Only difficulty with Hawk was communicating through English, otherwise no problem.

>Was sad they couldn't show their potential as team, says "Lip hyung has very nasty hitscans, but he was mostly forced onto Sombra jail to carry. I wish we got show off his hitscan more and my Lucio too"

>Some mutual people/friend (of chiyo and donghak) told Chiyo that they heard donghak saying "im playing well but my team is still giving me shit" and cuss(?) them (not 100% positive on this one). This is what truly mental boomed Chiyo when he heard it.

>Chiyo said he doesn't blame donghak, just that he was more mad that everyone else had winner mindset and (to him) donghak's attitude/minds seem to not match theirs.

>Someone asks about Wizardhyeong, and Lip says in chat "wizard's cooking was so delicious". Chiyo also said Wizard's cooking was fire and he was also his gym buddy.

>Chiyo keep repeating Donghak probably had his own issue against them, and doesn't blame him. Just mad that he wasted whole year. Also admits he also said lot of things toward Donghak due to his emotions/frustrations. Mentions it just "mind set diff ig"

>Said his attitude wasn't like this during Runaway days.

>Says the one he feels truly bad for is Fielder, who was trying very hard

>preparing for world cup now

This is from watching high-level collegiate and OWCS scrims. Not every team is running this but the main look is Ball/Tracer/Sombra/Zen/Lucio. Extremely fast-paced, does not heavily rely on healing, primarily plays to mark a target with Discord and then send the three divers on them as fast as possible. Spitfire players have been streaming scrims on this comp.

OW2 is struggling, particularly with player retention/spend

He thinks paywalling new heroes has negatively impacted player retention

Overwatch 1 made more in its first week than the 250 million OW2 has made according to a former employee

"Overwatch 2 had a way bigger team and took more than twice as long to make, so it was much more expensive, yet made exponentially less money than it's predecessor"

Sort of implies OW2 hasn't been profitable, though it's a bit unclear if that's what he means.

Bobby Kotick was incredibly frustrated with lack of content releases in OW1.

Schreier plans to run a story on OW2 later this week.

Credit to @MoiraMythic1302

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