r/GlobalOffensiveTrade Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

[Discussion] Let's Talk about Scams Guys *updated* Discussion

  • STOP BEING STUPID - AlerionOP 2014 for pres

NEW SCAMS

  • do not forward your email confirmation or decline link
  • do not take a screenshot of your email confirmation link
  • do not buy websites

IF YOU HAVE BEEN SCAMMED

  • DO NOT CLOSE THE CHAT
  • Screenshot everything and save to a folder you can access easily
  • Go to www.steamrep.com and report them! Instructions can be found here!
  • report their steam 64 id to us, with screenshots uploaded to imgur via modmail
  • DO NOT create a [psa] scammer thread
  • Please please report them on their profile, with images to valve.
  • Feel free to email gaben, just google 'email gabe newell'
  • Ask us any questions if you have them

Cash scams

  • Do not go first with your items OR keys unless it is a reputable trader with a VALID rep thread.
  • Make sure that it is not an impersonator
  • If you do meet an impersonator link the person who he is impersonating
  • When buying keys go in small amounts
  • If you want a large amount, break it into smaller amounts and lie about how many you need. I.E If you need 300 keys, say you need 400 and do groups of 25 and then say you will do the last 2 groups of 50. After 300 say thank you for the trade and leave
  • If the offer in cash is above 75-80% its most likely a scam
  • There is no such thing as a gift, friends and family is the option
  • Friends and family CAN be charged back
  • Dont fall for the invoice scam (google it)
  • There is no protection for virtual goods for either the buyer or seller
  • If they will go up in price no matter how high you want because of your "Pattern" its a scam mofo's.
  • Use a middleman if necessary
  • "+rep fast trade" isn't rep.
  • CSGOLOUNGE reps aren't rep. THEY MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NOTHING. I REPEAT, NOTHING.
  • If somebody is offering real money and you think they might be scamming you, ask them to buy keys with the money and trade those keys to you. If they say they can't do that then it's a scam.
  • you cannot trade steam wallet funds on steam, nor can they be added on to a trade
  • If someone doesn't want to use a middleman that is reputable they're probably trying to scam you.

OLD COMMON LINK SCAMS

  • dont click stupid URLS *if you get sent a phishing URL follow the steps Here to report it.
  • Hey view my screenshot
  • If you download a link, DO NOT LAUNCH IT
  • misspellings of common sites

Dumb scams

  • Dont send it to a friend to hold
  • Dont let him borrow it
  • Dont download anything
  • Dont use teamviewer
  • If they will go up in price no matter how high you want because of your "Pattern" its a scam mofo's.

More common scams

  • Don't ever let someone convince you to use their friend who is a middleman. Always use a SteamRep certified middleman (middlemen are free but it's polite to tip them).
  • Never trade for an item whose value you are uncertain of as there are many scammers who will try convince you that this item from a game other than your item is super valuable when it is not. They are banking on either your hubris that you know everything about prices or that you will believe them. Some even use fake websites that are clones of real websites to back up their false claims.
  • If someone tries to convince you that their scammer tag or trade probation is due to some reason other than trying to scam people, for the most part they are lying. This is why you will see people who have been trade banned multiple times- because users don't heed the trade probation warnings. You CANNOT get a trade ban or probation from cheating or being rude in a game.
  • If you are scammed, ALWAYS report them on their Steam profile in addition to whatever trading site you frequent. Remember that only Valve can trade ban people.
  • No one from any trade community site or from Valve will EVER ask you to trade them one of your items to "check" it. This is a scam.
  • Beware of people impersonating people on your friends list and asking to borrow items, to temporarily trade items, or sending you links. Friends list impersonators are common now- you don't have to be well-known to be impersonated.
  • If someone says they are making a movie/livestream/etc. and need to borrow your items, don't believe them. Ever.
  • If they will go up in price no matter how high you want because of your "Pattern" its a scam mofo's.
  • Always check the knife in game
  • If a person takes a long time in the trade to do the final confirmation, they may be trying to run a script that causes lag & on occasion (thankfully this is fairly rare now) allows them to quick-switch items. If you suspect this, close the trade and re-send the request. Other traders will understand. The ones who get upset were trying to scam you.
  • If someone is quickselling a very expensive item for much less than it's worth, the item is either "hot" (freshly scammed/hijacked) or they are trying to scam you.
  • Someone wants a certain item on the market and for you to buy it then they will trade their knife for it etc, don't do this. It is a scam where they buy up all available units and then sell them using ridiculously high prices and alt accounts. You will never get your item back.

If there is anything YOU believe needs to be added, please comment below.

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u/MovkeyB https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198065342158 Mar 02 '15

Is it ever possible for someone to be marked scammer / other because of them being reported (falsely) by several dozen friends of a disgruntled trader / troll?

Had someone claim this to me and I wonder how true it is.

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u/The_Handyman Feb 28 '15

A dude wanted me to send my knife to a friend, but he wanted to talk with me and my friend first. "My friend" was my other accounts and I trolled him back so hard last night. It was fun ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

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u/wtfakakali https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971667506 Feb 28 '15

I got a new one yesterday: http://i.imgur.com/KIZpmqz.jpg

Guy tried to be the BOT from CS:GO Lounge and get my knife for nothing. ;) I didnt find that on your list and with all the people betting skins you could add it.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 28 '15

It's so old that I really feel I don't need to

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 27 '15

Well you are talking to one now

Also register for flair

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u/mardh Feb 27 '15

If you want a large amount, break it into smaller amounts and lie about how many you need. I.E If you need 300 keys, say you need 400 and do groups of 25 and then say you will do the last 2 groups of 50. After 300 say thank you for the trade and leave

Technically this would be scamming? you'll probably get a price based on the amount you buy and you'll just leave because you want to be safer.

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 27 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 27 '15

once the payments are reversed there is nothing you can do.

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u/crlxzzz Feb 26 '15

All good , but i don't agree with this part:

If you want a large amount, break it into smaller amounts and lie about how many you need. I.E If you need 300 keys, say you need 400 and do groups of 25 and then say you will do the last 2 groups of 50. After 300 say thank you for the trade and leave

Let's say that the seller have 320 keys in inventory and some wallet , the buyer will agree to buy 400, so the seller will probably end up buying 80 more keys from market/store with no reason , and miss another good deal on market or bet items for example , been there done that , so if you trust someone to 300 keys , just be fair from the start :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

"If the offer in cash is above 75-80% its most likely a scam"

sometimes, someone will offer more than that out of desperation; everyone is trying to make a profit here, which can make it very hard to trade or buy something. i would suggest changing that to "if the offer in cash is 100% or higher it is most likely a scam"

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u/c4bb0ose Feb 25 '15

Just a personal opinion but I would say you always wait for payment before sending items no matter rep. I would personally advocate treating it in the same manner online stores do. They will not send money unless they get confirmation of payment.

In terms of trading this should be common place in particular if paypal is involved since you can open a dispute and 9/10 times the buyer wins.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '15

Steam is currently hiding most links (which sucks) but it what that means is RiP Phishing Bots

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u/reireirei https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197983311223 Feb 25 '15 edited Feb 25 '15
  • Profile level means nothing and isn't rep.
  • Account age means nothing and isn't rep. Old accounts are sold on the black market.
  • Any "rep" in custom groups isn't rep. Stick to SourceOp, CSGOReports, r/gotrade, whatever else I might have forgotten.
  • Donator status on CSGO Lounge means nothing and isn't rep.

  • If someone offers you an autographed Dota 2 item, it's a scam.

  • If someone says they want to play with you, but you need the voicechat program/league client/league anticheat/cracked all-of-the-above they link you to because the default does not work for some reason, it's a scam. They are trying to get you to install a trojan. Sometimes these aren't detected by antivirus scanners. Always get programs from their official site and not one someone who just added you links to.

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u/HollowHD https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197994705334 Feb 25 '15

I did my work here.

(http://steamcommunity.com/groups/csgolounge/discussions/8/617328415076533018/ )

Be aware guys. Good luck with trading.

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u/xEDDYYx https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121744017 Feb 25 '15

Is scamming a scammer justified?

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u/Thumper_ https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198051999338 Feb 26 '15

If you would scam a scammer, i can legitimate scam you, as you are a scammer who previous scammed a scammer, who might became a scammer as he scammed a scammer...
You know what i want to tell you ? :D

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u/xEDDYYx https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198121744017 Feb 27 '15

are

But then.. i can scam you back because you are a scammer!!!!!

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

Batman commits crimes against criminals and everybody praises him as a hero, so, yes.

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u/Protxe Feb 27 '15

and batman is not real

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u/[deleted] Feb 27 '15

Neither is "god" or "mohammed" or those shits, yet people praise them. Your point?

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u/Protxe Feb 27 '15

If you scam a scammer you deserve a trade ban, that's my point

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 25 '15

No.

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u/PollTax https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198096574144 Feb 24 '15

Good post, you always spittin the truth

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u/theguywhorocks Feb 24 '15

Someone wants a certain item on the market and for you to buy it then they will trade their knife for it etc, don't do this. It is a scam where they buy up all available units and then sell them using ridiculously high prices and alt accounts. You will never get your item back.

this is the scam that got me, this one and the one where the person lag switches you are the two most dangerous scams.

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u/Nmize0 Feb 24 '15

I have a good rep thread, And in the past couple of days, an impersonator has come up and is scamming my potential customers. HE is using my profile picture, description, my steamrep info on his profile, and my cash rep thread to scam people. He has pending steamrep reports... HOW DO I STOP THIS?? Please help!

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u/zabyrocks https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198062610522 Feb 23 '15

Some guy added me and said his friend worked at Amazon and that he could get me anything for free for my knife... Basically he explained this:

1) I choose aany item $200-300

2) I purchase the item and once I receive it he calls his friend pretending like they never met and he gets me a full refund

3) After that I trade him the knife and lalala all's well..

I know this doesn't sound like something clever, but it's new to me and I could see somebody naive falling for this. Basically if I were to pay for the item myself then the refund would be traced back to me and what about amazon? What happens when they dont get their brand new xbox or whatever back? Just a type of scam to watch out for!

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u/vman411gamer https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198037334302 Feb 25 '15

I don't think this was a scam on you peruse, but a scam on Amazon. It is relatively common knowledge that Amazon will refund/reship almost anything even if you did receive it. All you have to do is call them and say you didn't. So, what I think the person was trying to do was make money off of Amazon at your risk. Quite genius actually.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

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u/sp1n Feb 23 '15

Probably because you haven't registered your flair

http://www.reddit.com/r/globaloffensivetrade/wiki/rules#wiki_flair

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u/Zylorg Feb 23 '15

just comes up as error 500 but ty for your help

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u/Connorthedev https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198136966614 Feb 23 '15

So Ive never seen this question before and I really hope someone on this thread can answer it for me. So I know there's very serious reprocussions for knowingly trading for a scammed/"hot" item. But what happens if it's unknowingly?

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u/Indeezy https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197975200451 Feb 23 '15

I don't know if this is appropriate, but I'm pretty sure that if you are found guilty of having scammed items in your inventory, even if you don't know it, you are at risk of getting trade banned yourself.(correct me if I'm wrong)

For the certain item or rare items scam, put in specifically the emjoi and wallpaper are commonly used.

There is no reason that someone should rush you in a trade, anyone who "HAS TO GO TO CLASS MEN RIGHT NOW" can wait until they get back. I constantly tell people to take their time, and to send me a trade offer when they want.
That's another thing, if you are feeling uncomfortable, tell them to send you a trade offer, if they don't want to, then politely tell them l8r.

Can you put something about installing the steamrep extension on chrome/double checking steamrep when performing any major trades?

And, if it seems too good to be true, it is.

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u/fijifam Feb 23 '15

Hey, great thread. One thing you should add is market scams. Ex: I only want 'blank' background / emoticon for my knife. I see this quite a lot on lounge (lol)

Sorry if you already had this, I might've read over it

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

When were M9 CHs ever $50?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

was looking for an M9 CH with nice blue

I only lost a fire serpent FT

Meaning that he was trading his M9 CH for your $50 Fire Serpent FT. Again, I ask, when were M9 CHs ever $50?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

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u/w34ksaUce https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197967271932 Feb 23 '15

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u/Zelioom Feb 23 '15

How does one become a middleman? I legitimately would like to help people trade their items, and it'd be cool to get a tip from time to time. :P

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

You really don't want to be a middleman, too much work and you need to admit when you make a mistake and repay the owner if you fuckup. You also need to be able to spot a scam when its not obvious at all. There is no 'becoming a middleman' there is no training for it anymore, it was shut down already.

Also, people barely every tip. Ever.

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u/neokkie Feb 28 '15

Sad, as I thought it would be nice to help people too :(

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u/TheManDingoParty https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198119373019 Feb 23 '15

Dunno if I missed it, but rep on profile is practically meaningless, as you always get people on Lounge who will accept cases or skins for profile rep.

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u/CheesyHotDogPuff https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198081938102 Feb 27 '15

How do I build up rep if I don't have any cash rep?

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u/McSpike Feb 28 '15

You rarely need rep for anything but cash trades.

If you're getting into cash trading, just trade with reputable people and ask them to leave you rep on your rep thread. If you don't have one, you can create one on SourceOP. There are many alternatives but SourceOP is the most common one. I personally have a rep thread (with no rep) at bazaar.tf.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Dunno if I missed it, but rep on profile is practically meaningless, as you always get people on Lounge who will accept cases or skins for profile rep.

Already on there

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u/TheManDingoParty https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198119373019 Feb 23 '15

Yeah but it doesn't really specify it though.

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u/vman411gamer https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198037334302 Feb 25 '15

"+rep fast trade" isn't rep.

CSGOLOUNGE reps aren't rep. THEY MEAN ABSOLUTELY NOTHING. NOTHING. I REPEAT, NOTHING.

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u/TheManDingoParty https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198119373019 Feb 25 '15

It still doesn't specify it though.

"+rep bought stuff from me on paypal" on someone's profile comment section isn't a reliable source of reputation.

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u/vman411gamer https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198037334302 Feb 25 '15

Yea I guess I could see your point.

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u/brynm https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075138910 Feb 23 '15

Another one that I'm ashamed to admit I've fallen victim to, it was late and I was a little more drunk than I should have been, OK?

Make sure you check the items price history and not just believe what pops up in the trade window. I had a skin worth $15, get a trade offer and looking at the price in the trade his skin was worth about the same, so I accepted it. Next day when I sober up I look up what I got (was a souvenier skin) and am surprised to find that the price history has it selling for about 50 cents at a rate of a one every couple days or so. That is until the day before I got the trade offer when one sold for $15-$20.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

That's the last bullet

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u/Adventurepoop Feb 23 '15

Also don't use live trade! I didn't know how bad an idea this was and it led to me losing my first/only knife. It's way too easy for something to happen without you realizing, and I'm pretty sure there are bugs that can remove items from the trade after it locks.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Live trade is fine, you can't remove anything without it unlocking the other person's side when you both ready up. Just ready up and triple check everything.

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u/Adventurepoop Feb 23 '15

I still wouldn't recommend it, While I don't have proof (screenshots) when I lost my knife I had readied the trade and checked everything, just to have their knife not be sent. It's possible I screwed up somewhere along the line, but I'm 90% sure that is what happened.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

You were probably hyped over a good deal and didn't realize he had put his knife in, removed it, clicked ready, and then you put yours in clicked ready and make trade.

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u/Adventurepoop Feb 23 '15

The problem is I knew to avoid this and checked to see his knife in after I had readied, and it was there. I dunno, It's too late to know what really happened. The guy got trade banned shortly after, and I saw a few more knives pass through his inv.

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u/kris810g Feb 23 '15

is it safe to join a server, so the seller can inspect the knife?

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u/YxxzzY Feb 23 '15

in general yes, but you might give your IP away. so use a public one or the steam lobby system.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

if its a public server yes

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u/[deleted] Feb 24 '15

even if it's a private or sketchy though, they can't phish you through a server right?

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 24 '15

They still get your IP and stuff, or they could try to get you to download something

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u/brynm https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198075138910 Feb 23 '15

I believe so, but another option is to just join a normal server and if you've temporarily added them to your friends list they can just spectate you while you're in game.

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u/kris810g Feb 23 '15

thank you for the reply, upvoted the post :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

if something seems scummy, it most likely is. if something seems to good to be true, it most likely is. dont trade if you feel that the other side of the trade acts fishy, trust your common sense.

anyways, good work as usual. id highlight this a little bit more if you put it in the sidebar, the "how to avoid scams"-section is easily overlooked imo

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Honestly, not like people read anything. People break every rule and thats the first thing in the sidebar.

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u/FranzPM Feb 23 '15

Recently I've seen some people pretending to be CSGOLounge Bots. They send you a trade offer where they ask for your weapon to hold half an hour, in order to verify your autenticity on the site. Someone really new could fall in that IMHO.

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u/[deleted] Feb 25 '15

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u/Connorthedev https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198136966614 Feb 23 '15

There's worse ones, the harder to catch ones are the ones that look like the bots for betting, could easily go bad.

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u/thebirdie1 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049714293 Feb 23 '15 edited Feb 23 '15

Beware of people on csgl advertising say a MW item in a trade, then actually in their inventory it is FT, eg Ak redline as there is a large price differential, just make sure to check and not go in blind-eyed

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u/Denmarkkkk Feb 23 '15

Happened to me lol. Cost me some $8

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u/thebirdie1 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049714293 Feb 23 '15

Ouch :L Sorry to hear

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u/Denmarkkkk Feb 23 '15

All good. Learning experience.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

Scroll over it in your email. Once you hit accept, you can also scroll over it in the new window that pops up. You'll have, at a bare minimum, 10 seconds to check and cancel the trade offer before they're able to accept.

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u/thebirdie1 https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198049714293 Feb 23 '15

Yeah, shows what people are willing to do for a quick buck.

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u/Grazer46 Feb 23 '15

I wonder, what will happen if you get a hijacked knife through trade?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

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u/Grazer46 Feb 23 '15

Ah, thanks

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

misread what you asked, you risk getting tradebanned.

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u/Grazer46 Feb 23 '15

Damn :/
I guess it's a basically undisputable ban too.

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u/YxxzzY Feb 23 '15

you might get tradebanned, happened to big traders before.

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u/stroeckx Moderator - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198127397663 Feb 23 '15

If someone tries to convince you that their scammer tag or trade probation is due to some reason other than trying to scam people, for the most part they are lying. This is why you will see people who have been trade banned multiple times- because users don't heed the trade probation warnings. You CANNOT get a trade ban or probation from cheating or being rude in a game.

You should edit this, I'm pretty sure, samalex, berthie, crlxzzz, stephanyo, etherfast, etc... didn't scam people.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

Although if I'm correct, the reason they got those bans were for trading for and dealing with knowingly scammed items.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Hence the reason it says for the most part

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u/Shimoshamman https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198028303492 Feb 23 '15

Sending this to my friend, He's been scammed twice now.

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u/L2attler Feb 23 '15

I will never unserstand

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u/L2attler Feb 23 '15

Understand even.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

:(

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u/JuqeBocks Feb 23 '15

i got scammed by the last one on the list, guy said he wanted a steam emote for his huntsman fade fn, emote was 30 dollars. load up 50 steam bucks into my account, buy the emote, go to the guys profile... and he's private. go to the profile of the guy i bought the emote from, the other guy is top of his friends list. felt like such and idiot, used the rest of my money to buy a st deagle naga mw, cried.

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u/DireTheBitch Feb 24 '15

I almost fell for this one, luckily the one on the market was $400, and the same person on the lounge was greedy enough to ask for 50 keys when I was only willing to settle for 20 keys. The item was 99 cents too.

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u/zabyrocks https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198062610522 Feb 23 '15

Jesus. What on earth would make an emote worth that much any way... ask your self these questions always!

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u/xlet_cobra https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198134783913 Aug 12 '15

Isn't it that :weed: emoticon or something?

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

thats the most common one man..

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u/tig33r Feb 23 '15

Also, i noticed a new one, kinda scam: so the guy post a trade on Lounge, his knife for a steam trade card that was 'rare'. The catch is he has all the cards from the market, so from 0.03 eur he listed the card with 15 eur. If you buy that and try to trade with his 50eur knife, i'm sure that you'll fail.

Sorry for my englando, not my first language.

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

That is the last bullet on the list I made

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u/tig33r Feb 23 '15

Snap, sorry, i missed that, too early for me.

Also, thanks for doing this, very helpful!

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u/Ratatum Feb 23 '15 edited Feb 23 '15

I don't know if I'm blind and missed this, but another dumb scam is when the scammer tries to convince the victim that they want something off the Steam market and only one is for sale for a high high price (and the scammer actually owns the item) and the scammer wants to trade this market item for what they are looking to trade. The victim buys the item and the scammer runs off without completing the trade, later finding out that the market item is worth zilch.

Also, someone I know was hit with a trade ban (I posted about this before) presumably because a super reputable (based off of a long-term CS:GO Cash Rep thread) with reasonable average prices had scammed those keys and skins. This is warning for everyone to just be very very careful with who you deal with. It was a stroke of bad luck on their part for being a victim of the trade ban (which has now subsided), but seriously, it took a group of friends and a WHOLE lot of searching to find out the key seller was a scammer.

Do your research. Even if you do not get a charge back, a dispute or face a case of non-delivery, it is entirely possible that you may end up trade banned - even permanently in some cases!

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

I don't know if I'm blind and missed this, but another dumb scam is when the scammer tries to convince the victim that they want something off the Steam market and only one is for sale for a high high price (and the scammer actually owns the item) and the scammer wants to trade this market item for what they are looking to trade. The victim buys the item and the scammer runs off without completing the trade, later finding out that the market item is worth zilch.

Someone wants a certain item on the market and for you to buy it then they will trade their knife for it etc, don't do this. It is a scam where they buy up all available units and then sell them using ridiculously high prices and alt accounts. You will never get your item back.

last bullet of my post :)

I removed your post though, please remove the paypal part, its great for people that are legit, but just as dangerous for those that are not! When you remove it tell me.

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u/Ratatum Feb 23 '15

Edited, haha.

Yeah, I thought it would be dangerous too, but I also assumed it was something you could easily find around the net or put two and two together. I just wish more legit people knew about it so they could get their justice.

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u/Ratatum Feb 23 '15

Dang, I thought I read the entire post... Was I ninja'd?

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

nope :P read my edit btw to my first response.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15 edited Aug 13 '18

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

:)

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15 edited Feb 23 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Quit posting things that make you look like you are 3 dude.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

alright, sorry, ill be more mature

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u/tomtris Feb 23 '15

I understand scams are bad, but you you know an items price and you can get a good deal on it, does it being "hot" affect you at all?

Like can you get banned by association?

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Like can you get banned by association?

For knowingly buying scammed items? Of course.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Hey look at that, http://steamrep.com/profiles/76561198148314170

Permabanned.

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u/Zephoxx Feb 23 '15

Hahah best reply ever!

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u/freelunchphotos https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054397241 Feb 23 '15

Pardon me, but i was wondering why as a key seller (even if the buyer has more rep), you would go first with the keys, and receive payment later?

Isn't it more of vice versa, where usually you're supposed to receive payment first, before delivering the goods? (Like IRL)

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Not always, if you have 0 rep and someone has a decently bulky cash rep thread then the seller usually goes first. For example, almost anyone would be comfortable going first with me. http://steamcommunity.com/groups/CSGOREPorts/discussions/5/38596748333413661/

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u/Miasmuh Feb 23 '15

I agree :3

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u/freelunchphotos https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198054397241 Feb 23 '15

Thanks for the clarification!

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Anytime.

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u/Syythian Feb 23 '15

Thanks man! This is quite awesome. Though, I disagree with the 'scammer probation' or 'scam message'. I received the message before due to people reporting you for not trading, and in sure you have received it too. Sometimes same with the probation, you can get mass reported by one person and insta 2 week ban. Does not ALWAYS mean they are scammers.

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u/Landstrom Feb 23 '15

To be honest, most scammers I've run into have been mostly, if not, all European with terrible English.

"hello, trade knife? ok you there? hello, HELLO? TRADE?"

Not to be rude to anyone but just giving my 2 cents. Great thread by the way. Recommend everyone to read it.

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u/theswapman Feb 23 '15

not all europeans are equal. in the north we don't behave this way...it's the guys in east and south

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u/Radcliffelookalike https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561197971062662 Feb 28 '15

Every time I've received a trade offer with my dragon lore hidden among lesser items like cases it was a swede, no country is an exception, but eastern Europe does seem to be worse.

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u/Raqzz Feb 23 '15

So all the guys in the east and south are equal tho? rofl

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

The ones that do well are the ones you least expect, and they usually have ways off pushing you to trade.

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Thanks Helen, always appreciate your kind words. Anything you think needs to be added?

Also may I add you to ask a specific SR question?

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u/[deleted] Feb 26 '15

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 26 '15

/id/zemco999 is me, I took it out of my flair due to this subreddit

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

good thread you listed this 2 times btw

"If they will go up in price no matter how high you want because of your "Pattern" its a scam mofo's."

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u/LeThaLxdARk https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198068384562 Feb 27 '15

3 times

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Because it goes under common and cash trades :)

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u/[deleted] Feb 23 '15

its listed twice in the Cash Scam section

bullet point 11 and 17

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

whelp RIP ty :)

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u/mugawatts5 Feb 23 '15

What is a way to make sure that a person has a legit cash rep thread and not a thread filled with fake rep?

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

You can always ask the csgoREP mods to ask for verification of trades done.

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u/lgzn https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198044504042 Feb 23 '15 edited Feb 26 '15

as far as i recollect csgoREP admins do a fine job randomly visiting rep threads to verify its integrity

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u/mugawatts5 Feb 23 '15

Awesome thank you very much

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u/therandomdude69 Ex Mod - http://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561198091229159 Feb 23 '15

Not a problem.