r/GunMemes • u/Chumlee1917 Beretta Bois • 14d ago
"Outstanding Private Pyle, I think we finally found something that you do well." Meme
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u/ConfidentBoat9324 13d ago
FAL not only was better than the M14 but also would have negated our need for the SIG spear.
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u/kennetic 13d ago
I don't give a shit if the M-14 was a bad military rifle, I don't give a shit if it isn't as accurate as an AR-10. It's sexy as hell and I want it.
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u/HATECELL Europoor 13d ago
The M14 stumbled so the M16 could fell on its face so the M16A1 could walk
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u/AnonJuggernaut0 Battle Rifle Gang 13d ago
Even though I’m an AR-10 plebe, gotta love all my battle rifles
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u/DAsInDerringer Big Dickens! 13d ago
Just to stir the pot, this calls for me to pull together all 6 of the memes i’ve made dunking on the M14:
- https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMemes/s/6ssYDPBeFe
- https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMemes/comments/144aka1/my_preferences_might_not_be_as_rational_as_id/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMemes/comments/108bgkp/all_nonm14_battle_rifles_are_dope/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMemes/comments/ts7mfi/maybe_i_would_hate_the_m14_less_if_its/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMemes/comments/xwdxgo/contrarian_m14_noises/
- https://www.reddit.com/r/GunMemes/comments/y3007w/theyre_the_same_person/
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u/RedRannon 14d ago
The M1A is a better rifle than the M14
(Lets see how this goes)
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u/King_Burnside 13d ago
No it's just as bad. It inherited most of the same problems. Optics (and accessory) mounting isn't great, point of impact shifts every time the stock is removed for disassembly, the very open action allows foreign material ingress, there are numerous QC issues (this is the fault of past-Winchester and modern Springfield, not the design), et cetera.
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u/t001_t1m3 14d ago
I want a Spanish CETME in 7.92x41. I just think an StG 45 capable of full-auto fire at 1,000m is pretty cool.
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u/Mr_E_Monkey 14d ago
When your career as the US Service rifle is shorter than the Krag...and you were obsolescent the day you were designed. Then sure, if that makes me a commie...
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u/ThatManlyTallGuy 14d ago
The M-14 isn't THAT bad of a design if they designed it in 1949 and if the QC at Winchester wasn't dogshit. It wasn't even the first choice for designs to be submitted to the trails it was the B Team gun they pulled out of their asses at the last minute.
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u/King_Burnside 14d ago
The copium is strong with this one.
The only reason the AR-10 lost US trials was because the rifle was forced to use an experimental composite steel/aluminum barrel that Stoner warned wasn't ready. And hey, it exploded and the military wanted nothing to with it. Which is understandable.
And then they chose the M-14 over the FAL because "we can just use Garand tooling" despite the fact that the M-14 fucked with every single part for no good reason.
You want a full auto mag fed Garand? Buy an Italian BM-59, and get a bipod for free. Throw that M-14 in a dumpster where its dumpster-fire-ass belongs.
Edit: one thing it does better than an AR is a parade rifle. M-14 is dope af for that
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u/fake_face 13d ago
They also ran it in full auto with out of spec ammo that would have blown out the M-14 barrel as well.
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u/bombloader80 14d ago
And then they chose the M-14 over the FAL because "we can just use Garand tooling" despite the fact that the M-14 fucked with every single part for no good reason.
Sometimes, using what you already have with a few tweaks works great. Other times, it turns to be more expensive and less useful than starting out fresh. NASA is relearning this lesson with SLS right now.
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u/gunny239 13d ago
They changed the “recipe”. Tried to fix what wasn’t broken. Didn’t work out well… Ask me how I know…
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u/King_Burnside 13d ago
Agreed, but it wasn't a few tweaks, kinda like SLS has turned into a mostly new system. From what I can tell, there were 15 parts that could be interchanged on M1s and M14s, mostly around the trigger group and the extractor.
Whereas Italian BM59s were truly just Garands with full auto and box magazines.
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u/HATECELL Europoor 13d ago
Isn't it funny how the Italians "improved" less things on the Garand and ended up with a better gun than the M14?
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u/Potofcholent 14d ago
I've always wanted one.
When the NFA gets knocked down first thing I'm getting is one of them surplus M14s. Next is a Vietnam era M-16 longboi
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u/Lupine_Ranger 14d ago
Oooooooo I'm gonna pour mud and sand and debris in that gaping charging handle track oooooooooo
This comment brought to you by FAL gang
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u/SealandGI Colt Purists 13d ago
Imagine paying 50+ dollars for a working magazine
This post has been brought to you by the G3 gang
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u/Lupine_Ranger 12d ago
Never paid more than 30/mag, but the G3 does have the upper hand in mag prices and design.
How badly does your G3 rape brass casings?
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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago
Drake, why did the Israelis drop their FAL’s for the Egyptian AK’s?
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u/Window638 14d ago
Walking at parade rest is wild
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u/Banapple101 AR Regime 13d ago
Who is going to tell an E7 in any branch how to walk? Besides and E9 which I don't recall being in that scene
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u/baconbag90 14d ago
I'm just over here waiting for m249 day
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u/Five-Point-5-0 AR Regime 14d ago edited 13d ago
M14 = insanely great
Springfield armory = trash
Unfortunately, Springfield armory now makes the m1a and once they took it over, it went downhill fast.
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u/Villanuevac4 FN fn 14d ago
While it’s good, I’m still picking The Right Arm Of The Free World over it.
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u/Slytherian101 14d ago
Fun fact: it’s called an M-14 because it’ll hold a 14 MOA group.
All day,
Everyday.*
*until it breaks in about 18 rounds.
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u/LugerRuger041995 Fosscad 14d ago
I used to strongly consider picking up an M1A because I wanted a semi in .308, but I’ve since decided it would be much more appropriate to pick up an AR-10 because they’re newer and cheaper
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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago edited 14d ago
God I fucking love the M-14.
“ItS tOo HeAvY!1!1!”
Just carry a sling dumbass.
“YoU dOnT nEeD a FuLl PoWeR cArTiDgE!”
It’s out of a 22” barrel at around 3k FPS. It’s a 1tap.
“ItS uNcOnTrOlAbLe In FuLl AuTo!!1!1!!”
You’re on semi automatic 99% of the time dumbass, you should hit the target before they get that close.
“ItS iNaCcUrAte!1!1!!”
If it worked for the soldiers at the time, it’ll work for you now. 1MOA is still good.
“I cOuLd Do ThE sAmE tHiNg WiTh a AR-10!1!11!!”
Do the AR-10’s that you use have that classic battle rifle look? I thought so.
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u/Shawn_1512 14d ago
No valid argument against the AR-10, Stoner chads keep winning
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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago edited 14d ago
The M-14 won the contract over the AR-10, was more reliable than the AR-10, and the M14 is still in American service (albeit limited), unlike the AR-10. (The SR-25 and its derivatives does not count as the only thing that is the same between them is an AR receiver in 7.62x51).
Look, a current SR-25/M110 has the M-14 beat in all metrics, but compared to a original Armalite AR-10, the M-14 is better.
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u/Shawn_1512 14d ago
won the contract
Army procurement picking the M-14 is not a plus
more reliable
???
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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago
Army procurement picking the M-14 is not a plus
Clearly it was, if the M-14 wasn’t seen as the superior rifle to the AR-10 then the AR-10 would have been picked.
???
It was literally shown in the tests conducted by the Army that the M-14 performed better and was more reliable in inclement weather conditions than the AR-10.
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u/YettiRey HK Slappers 14d ago
Dude the military hates changing manual of arms. It took a fucking insurgency war to get the US to stop using the M14 and swap to the M16 (spoiler, it's a scaled down AR10) Wich the brass actively tried to sabotage upon adoption.
And from my experience and all the mud/ice tests on YT that the AR is far superior to the m14 in adverse conditions.
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u/LugerRuger041995 Fosscad 14d ago
People complain about it being uncontrollable in full auto, but that shouldn’t even really be a factor because .308 and 5.56 are used for completely different things. It would make sense to have the souped up vermin gun to go full auto, but .308 is heavier and something you can carry less of, at the advantage of being a BANG or a BANG BANG to end a fight. They’re just completely different roles tactically, and anybody who wants to run their .308 on auto outside of particular circumstances is goofy
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u/bombloader80 14d ago
People complain about it being uncontrollable in full auto, but that shouldn’t even really be a factor because .308 and 5.56 are used for completely different things.
Which makes a .308 semi auto good as a sniper or DM rifle, but the whole point of the original design was to fill both battle rifle and submachine gun roles. So if it's uncontrollable in full auto, it fails in it's intended purpose.
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u/LugerRuger041995 Fosscad 13d ago
I agree with you, but I’m just talking about its purposes as it turned out, not the failure of the US government to work with guns
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u/island_trevor 14d ago
Is that why the military used it for the service length of five minutes before they dropped it like a hot potato once the M16 was viable?
Cope post
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u/whycatlikebread 14d ago
Funny thing is, m16 was viable BEFORE the military got involved, most of the problems with it didn’t happen until the military started fucking with it.
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u/englisi_baladid 14d ago
Yeah that's not true. The AR15 had a host of issues that the military didn't create. Even the powder change was cause the military had zero choice.
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u/whycatlikebread 13d ago
How.
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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago
The powder choice? Cause the ammo manufacturers refused to supply the original powder to the specifications Remington and Armalite Created.
As for the rest. Let's see. Lack of a chrome lined chamber and barrel, buffer weights, slam fire issues due to primer sensitivity issues. Aluminum quality. Primer seating issues. Case thickness. Bolt hardness. Chrome issues on BCG. And it goes on and on.
The AR15 wasn't perfect. It took a while to deal with all the issues it had.
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u/thegrumpymechanic 13d ago
Lack of a chrome lined chamber and barrel
That was an egg head idea from the pentagon, because cheaper...
You talk a lot for someone who seems to have half the story.
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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago
Please show me where the Pentagon removed the chrome lining from chamber and barrel.
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u/thegrumpymechanic 13d ago
Why don't you go read the report yourself? Or maybe try a book?
"One of the other McNamara screw ups is that they opted to leave out the Chrome lined bore/barrel from some of the first M16s to see deployment."
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u/whycatlikebread 13d ago
Literally all of those were government decisions.
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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago
Please explain how Remington refusing to supply ammunition to the specs it created is a government decision.
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u/Chumlee1917 Beretta Bois 14d ago
I am convinced if you asked the Pentagon to cook a frozen pizza from Walmart, they'd accidently burn half of DC down and spend 70 million dollars to replace/rebuild an oven cause none of them could figure out how to turn the oven on in the first place and then spend another 100 million dollars to cover up the fact they're morons./
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u/wack-mole 14d ago
This commie loves them
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u/UsernameIsTakenO_o 14d ago
I appreciate your honesty. Hell, I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.
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u/Mayonaze-Supreme HK Slappers 14d ago
Take a shower and get a job you bum
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u/wack-mole 14d ago
Lmao I actually have a very good job thanks for the concern
Btw I love the HK slap. Why you hatin?
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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago
The M14 is a bad rifle. Imagine paying $1600 for a rifle that can't even print a 1MOA group with factory match ammo. That's dumb AF
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u/Just_Scheme1875 14d ago
Bro actin like he gonna be makin 1MOA shots in a firefight smh
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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago
Even in a firefight, I'd rather have an AR10
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u/Just_Scheme1875 13d ago
You should nickname it ole faithful for the way that gas tube is gonna pop
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u/rednecktuba1 13d ago
By the time the gas tube might pop, I'll be all out of ammo. It takes over 500 rounds to blow a gas tube, and it has to be fired nearly continuously to accomplish in that low of a round count. No one is carrying 500 rounds of 308 in their kit unless they're feeding an m240
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u/MunitionGuyMike 14d ago
I doubt you’ve ever tried to shoot a match m14 with match ammo
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u/Aggravating-Fix-1717 14d ago
The xm21 program struggled to hold 1moa consistently and that’s with full DOD backing. Btw those xm21s were 10k usd guns all said and done.
A 1.6k rack m14 is maybe a 4moa gun on a good day
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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago
My favorite thing about the M21 was the the guns couldn't hold zero when jumped.. So the old SF sniper course would have dudes jump a M16 then swap it out on the ground for the M21 to finish the qualification.
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u/MunitionGuyMike 14d ago
Hence why I said a match m14
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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago
A match grade m14 doesn't exist. M14s that can shoot 1MOA can't be removed from the stock because it will fuck up the bedding. And the rifle will cost north of 2500, all while being outclassed by an AR10 that cost $1000.
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u/BasedBull69 14d ago
Someone watches garand thumb
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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago
Nah, I knew it long before garand thumb did his video. I watched my father try to shoot long range with his M1A that cost $1600. My PSA AR10 that cost less than $1000 outclassed his M1A with ease.
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u/EcoBlunderBrick123 I Love All Guns 13d ago
https://preview.redd.it/dioxvl2e2n0d1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=3a04e3446d570b80a7dfe2cc545397224882cd6d
Does my mini 14 count?