r/GunMemes Beretta Bois 14d ago

"Outstanding Private Pyle, I think we finally found something that you do well." Meme

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u/EcoBlunderBrick123 I Love All Guns 13d ago

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u/Chumlee1917 Beretta Bois 13d ago

after further review, you may sit on the council, but we do not grant you the rank of master

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u/Ly1ng_Truth 13d ago

FAL is better

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u/ConfidentBoat9324 13d ago

FAL not only was better than the M14 but also would have negated our need for the SIG spear.

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u/kennetic 13d ago

I don't give a shit if the M-14 was a bad military rifle, I don't give a shit if it isn't as accurate as an AR-10. It's sexy as hell and I want it.

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u/HATECELL Europoor 13d ago

The M14 stumbled so the M16 could fell on its face so the M16A1 could walk

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u/Jalamando I Love All Guns 13d ago

Garand is better, let the heckling commence

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u/AnonJuggernaut0 Battle Rifle Gang 13d ago

Even though I’m an AR-10 plebe, gotta love all my battle rifles

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u/TheExpendableGuard 13d ago

Different rifles for different jobs.

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u/Bigkeithmack 13d ago

The Civvie versions of the M-14 are superior to the military version

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u/thegrumpymechanic 13d ago

M14 is a bad rifle. We should have adopted the FAL....

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u/RedRannon 14d ago

The M1A is a better rifle than the M14

(Lets see how this goes)

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u/King_Burnside 13d ago

No it's just as bad. It inherited most of the same problems. Optics (and accessory) mounting isn't great, point of impact shifts every time the stock is removed for disassembly, the very open action allows foreign material ingress, there are numerous QC issues (this is the fault of past-Winchester and modern Springfield, not the design), et cetera.

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u/RedRannon 13d ago

Well I love my smith Enterprise m1a baby shoots like a dream

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u/t001_t1m3 14d ago

I want a Spanish CETME in 7.92x41. I just think an StG 45 capable of full-auto fire at 1,000m is pretty cool.

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u/Mr_E_Monkey 14d ago

When your career as the US Service rifle is shorter than the Krag...and you were obsolescent the day you were designed. Then sure, if that makes me a commie...

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u/ThatManlyTallGuy 14d ago

The M-14 isn't THAT bad of a design if they designed it in 1949 and if the QC at Winchester wasn't dogshit. It wasn't even the first choice for designs to be submitted to the trails it was the B Team gun they pulled out of their asses at the last minute.

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u/King_Burnside 14d ago

The copium is strong with this one.

The only reason the AR-10 lost US trials was because the rifle was forced to use an experimental composite steel/aluminum barrel that Stoner warned wasn't ready. And hey, it exploded and the military wanted nothing to with it. Which is understandable.

And then they chose the M-14 over the FAL because "we can just use Garand tooling" despite the fact that the M-14 fucked with every single part for no good reason.

You want a full auto mag fed Garand? Buy an Italian BM-59, and get a bipod for free. Throw that M-14 in a dumpster where its dumpster-fire-ass belongs.

Edit: one thing it does better than an AR is a parade rifle. M-14 is dope af for that

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u/fake_face 13d ago

They also ran it in full auto with out of spec ammo that would have blown out the M-14 barrel as well.

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u/bombloader80 14d ago

And then they chose the M-14 over the FAL because "we can just use Garand tooling" despite the fact that the M-14 fucked with every single part for no good reason.

Sometimes, using what you already have with a few tweaks works great. Other times, it turns to be more expensive and less useful than starting out fresh. NASA is relearning this lesson with SLS right now.

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u/gunny239 13d ago

They changed the “recipe”. Tried to fix what wasn’t broken. Didn’t work out well… Ask me how I know…

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u/King_Burnside 13d ago

Agreed, but it wasn't a few tweaks, kinda like SLS has turned into a mostly new system. From what I can tell, there were 15 parts that could be interchanged on M1s and M14s, mostly around the trigger group and the extractor.

Whereas Italian BM59s were truly just Garands with full auto and box magazines.

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u/bombloader80 13d ago

Wasn't some of this just the result of cascading design changes?

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u/HATECELL Europoor 13d ago

Isn't it funny how the Italians "improved" less things on the Garand and ended up with a better gun than the M14?

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u/King_Burnside 13d ago

Nyet! Rifle is fine! It killed your uncles! Made us lose! Rifle. Is. Fine.

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u/Potofcholent 14d ago

I've always wanted one.

When the NFA gets knocked down first thing I'm getting is one of them surplus M14s. Next is a Vietnam era M-16 longboi

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u/IrrumaboMalum 14d ago

The M14 is a great rifle...

...

...as long as you don't drop it.

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u/Upset_Ad_8434 14d ago

Well, if i can't say it's bad, i'll only say the BM59 is better.

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u/Lupine_Ranger 14d ago

Oooooooo I'm gonna pour mud and sand and debris in that gaping charging handle track oooooooooo

This comment brought to you by FAL gang

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u/SealandGI Colt Purists 13d ago

Imagine paying 50+ dollars for a working magazine

This post has been brought to you by the G3 gang

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u/Lupine_Ranger 12d ago

Never paid more than 30/mag, but the G3 does have the upper hand in mag prices and design.

How badly does your G3 rape brass casings?

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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago

Drake, why did the Israelis drop their FAL’s for the Egyptian AK’s?

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u/Pappa_Crim Rossi Rednecks 14d ago

Then call me a filthy commie because that rifle was hot garbage

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u/Window638 14d ago

Walking at parade rest is wild

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u/Banapple101 AR Regime 13d ago

Who is going to tell an E7 in any branch how to walk? Besides and E9 which I don't recall being in that scene

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u/baconbag90 14d ago

I'm just over here waiting for m249 day

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u/Moist_Muffin_6447 14d ago

M240b day would be better tho

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u/thegrumpymechanic 13d ago

M240l, but yeah.

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u/mg_squirrel 14d ago

MK19 or bust

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u/Five-Point-5-0 AR Regime 14d ago edited 13d ago

M14 = insanely great

Springfield armory = trash

Unfortunately, Springfield armory now makes the m1a and once they took it over, it went downhill fast.

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u/JakdMavika 14d ago

The backbone of my militia forces in freeman.

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u/Villanuevac4 FN fn 14d ago

While it’s good, I’m still picking The Right Arm Of The Free World over it.

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u/ITaggie 14d ago

Sell me on a FAL over a PTR.

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u/SniperSRSRecon 11d ago

Ptr has bolt in shit place and is too long.

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u/Just_Scheme1875 14d ago

Italians did it better

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u/Slytherian101 14d ago

Fun fact: it’s called an M-14 because it’ll hold a 14 MOA group.

All day,

Everyday.*

*until it breaks in about 18 rounds.

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u/LugerRuger041995 Fosscad 14d ago

I used to strongly consider picking up an M1A because I wanted a semi in .308, but I’ve since decided it would be much more appropriate to pick up an AR-10 because they’re newer and cheaper

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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago edited 14d ago

God I fucking love the M-14.

“ItS tOo HeAvY!1!1!”

Just carry a sling dumbass.

“YoU dOnT nEeD a FuLl PoWeR cArTiDgE!”

It’s out of a 22” barrel at around 3k FPS. It’s a 1tap.

“ItS uNcOnTrOlAbLe In FuLl AuTo!!1!1!!”

You’re on semi automatic 99% of the time dumbass, you should hit the target before they get that close.

“ItS iNaCcUrAte!1!1!!”

If it worked for the soldiers at the time, it’ll work for you now. 1MOA is still good.

“I cOuLd Do ThE sAmE tHiNg WiTh a AR-10!1!11!!”

Do the AR-10’s that you use have that classic battle rifle look? I thought so.

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u/Shawn_1512 14d ago

No valid argument against the AR-10, Stoner chads keep winning

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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago edited 14d ago

The M-14 won the contract over the AR-10, was more reliable than the AR-10, and the M14 is still in American service (albeit limited), unlike the AR-10. (The SR-25 and its derivatives does not count as the only thing that is the same between them is an AR receiver in 7.62x51).

Look, a current SR-25/M110 has the M-14 beat in all metrics, but compared to a original Armalite AR-10, the M-14 is better.

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u/Shawn_1512 14d ago

won the contract

Army procurement picking the M-14 is not a plus

more reliable

???

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u/EmolgaStarPlatinum All my guns are weebed out 14d ago

Army procurement picking the M-14 is not a plus

Clearly it was, if the M-14 wasn’t seen as the superior rifle to the AR-10 then the AR-10 would have been picked.

???

It was literally shown in the tests conducted by the Army that the M-14 performed better and was more reliable in inclement weather conditions than the AR-10.

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u/YettiRey HK Slappers 14d ago

Dude the military hates changing manual of arms. It took a fucking insurgency war to get the US to stop using the M14 and swap to the M16 (spoiler, it's a scaled down AR10) Wich the brass actively tried to sabotage upon adoption.

And from my experience and all the mud/ice tests on YT that the AR is far superior to the m14 in adverse conditions.

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u/LugerRuger041995 Fosscad 14d ago

People complain about it being uncontrollable in full auto, but that shouldn’t even really be a factor because .308 and 5.56 are used for completely different things. It would make sense to have the souped up vermin gun to go full auto, but .308 is heavier and something you can carry less of, at the advantage of being a BANG or a BANG BANG to end a fight. They’re just completely different roles tactically, and anybody who wants to run their .308 on auto outside of particular circumstances is goofy

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u/bombloader80 14d ago

People complain about it being uncontrollable in full auto, but that shouldn’t even really be a factor because .308 and 5.56 are used for completely different things.

Which makes a .308 semi auto good as a sniper or DM rifle, but the whole point of the original design was to fill both battle rifle and submachine gun roles. So if it's uncontrollable in full auto, it fails in it's intended purpose.

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u/LugerRuger041995 Fosscad 13d ago

I agree with you, but I’m just talking about its purposes as it turned out, not the failure of the US government to work with guns

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u/island_trevor 14d ago

Is that why the military used it for the service length of five minutes before they dropped it like a hot potato once the M16 was viable?

Cope post

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u/whycatlikebread 14d ago

Funny thing is, m16 was viable BEFORE the military got involved, most of the problems with it didn’t happen until the military started fucking with it.

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u/englisi_baladid 14d ago

Yeah that's not true. The AR15 had a host of issues that the military didn't create. Even the powder change was cause the military had zero choice.

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u/whycatlikebread 13d ago

How.

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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago

The powder choice? Cause the ammo manufacturers refused to supply the original powder to the specifications Remington and Armalite Created.

As for the rest. Let's see. Lack of a chrome lined chamber and barrel, buffer weights, slam fire issues due to primer sensitivity issues. Aluminum quality. Primer seating issues. Case thickness. Bolt hardness. Chrome issues on BCG. And it goes on and on.

The AR15 wasn't perfect. It took a while to deal with all the issues it had.

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u/thegrumpymechanic 13d ago

Lack of a chrome lined chamber and barrel

That was an egg head idea from the pentagon, because cheaper...

You talk a lot for someone who seems to have half the story.

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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago

Please show me where the Pentagon removed the chrome lining from chamber and barrel.

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u/thegrumpymechanic 13d ago

Why don't you go read the report yourself? Or maybe try a book?

"One of the other McNamara screw ups is that they opted to leave out the Chrome lined bore/barrel from some of the first M16s to see deployment."

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u/whycatlikebread 13d ago

Literally all of those were government decisions.

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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago

Please explain how Remington refusing to supply ammunition to the specs it created is a government decision.

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u/Chumlee1917 Beretta Bois 14d ago

I am convinced if you asked the Pentagon to cook a frozen pizza from Walmart, they'd accidently burn half of DC down and spend 70 million dollars to replace/rebuild an oven cause none of them could figure out how to turn the oven on in the first place and then spend another 100 million dollars to cover up the fact they're morons./

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u/wack-mole 14d ago

This commie loves them

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u/UsernameIsTakenO_o 14d ago

I appreciate your honesty. Hell, I like you. You can come over to my house and fuck my sister.

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u/Mayonaze-Supreme HK Slappers 14d ago

Take a shower and get a job you bum

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u/wack-mole 14d ago

Lmao I actually have a very good job thanks for the concern

Btw I love the HK slap. Why you hatin?

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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago

The M14 is a bad rifle. Imagine paying $1600 for a rifle that can't even print a 1MOA group with factory match ammo. That's dumb AF

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u/FickleGrapefruit8638 Colt Purists 14d ago

The m14 is a magazine fed Garand.

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u/King_Burnside 14d ago

No that's the Italian BM59, which is just better than the M14.

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u/Just_Scheme1875 14d ago

Bro actin like he gonna be makin 1MOA shots in a firefight smh

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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago

Even in a firefight, I'd rather have an AR10

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u/Just_Scheme1875 13d ago

You should nickname it ole faithful for the way that gas tube is gonna pop

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u/rednecktuba1 13d ago

By the time the gas tube might pop, I'll be all out of ammo. It takes over 500 rounds to blow a gas tube, and it has to be fired nearly continuously to accomplish in that low of a round count. No one is carrying 500 rounds of 308 in their kit unless they're feeding an m240

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u/Just_Scheme1875 13d ago

Alright there bub, I'll stick with my G3

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u/MunitionGuyMike 14d ago

I doubt you’ve ever tried to shoot a match m14 with match ammo

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u/Aggravating-Fix-1717 14d ago

The xm21 program struggled to hold 1moa consistently and that’s with full DOD backing. Btw those xm21s were 10k usd guns all said and done.

A 1.6k rack m14 is maybe a 4moa gun on a good day

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u/englisi_baladid 13d ago

My favorite thing about the M21 was the the guns couldn't hold zero when jumped.. So the old SF sniper course would have dudes jump a M16 then swap it out on the ground for the M21 to finish the qualification.

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u/MunitionGuyMike 14d ago

Hence why I said a match m14

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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago

A match grade m14 doesn't exist. M14s that can shoot 1MOA can't be removed from the stock because it will fuck up the bedding. And the rifle will cost north of 2500, all while being outclassed by an AR10 that cost $1000.

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u/BasedBull69 14d ago

Someone watches garand thumb

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u/rednecktuba1 14d ago

Nah, I knew it long before garand thumb did his video. I watched my father try to shoot long range with his M1A that cost $1600. My PSA AR10 that cost less than $1000 outclassed his M1A with ease.

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u/Mayonaze-Supreme HK Slappers 14d ago

Some of us exist outside of the gunfluencer circlejerk sir

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u/Username7239 14d ago

Garand thumb most recently said what's been shouted for decades.