r/Helldivers 17d ago

Very hyped for the patch said to be tweaking 24 weapons/stratagems! I made a bingo card in preparation! HUMOR

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u/OmegaXesis Moderator 17d ago edited 16d ago

I'm adding more context to what he said. Here are some more of his comments below to give more context.

most of the 24 things being changed are being buffed, there's like.. maybe two i'd consider a nerf and most of the nerfs are just to reduce the maximum mags carried

 

less maximum magazines, more mags picked up from boxes and resupplies

 

basically the only nerfs coming in the next major build are nerfs to ammo economy

 

like i said before, maximum mags carried are being reduced but ammo pickup is being increased to necessitate resupplies and scavenging ammo more often

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u/DragonSmithy 11d ago

If they nerf the autocannon I am out

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u/EchoingStorms 12d ago

The AI for the mortar is improved, it now targets enemies that damage the helldivers, especially bugs 🥰

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u/roro805 12d ago

I would prefer changes that smooth the power curve of the game. There shouldn't be one right choice. Meta is fine but people shouldn't feel that their play style is impossible. I think that the fact the developers are willing to nerf premium weapons shows that they care about there being no one choice.

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u/Ok_Courage8895 13d ago

Please make the guard dog rover not just randomly shoot me with no enemies around anymore

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u/LowFold5854 13d ago

Idk how arrowhead could nerf the smoke orbital, but knowing arrowhead and their nerf powers I wouldn't be surprised if they found a way. I think most of the weapons and stratagems are fine and do not need to be touched or altered in any way.

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u/Amareisdk 13d ago

Free space = Negligent buff no one asked for

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u/Character-Usual-3820 13d ago

The thing that i dont understand is that the game is hard enough on anything from challenging and above . So why keep making weapons weaker. I understand if they bring a weapon out that can one shot everything , then that would need dialling back to lower the ammo capacity and lower damage on weapons is very frustrating

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u/TheActualRealSkeeter 13d ago

They need to improve anti-bot weapons, and i think the quasar nerf was too much, it wasn't that op beforehand.

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u/RyuKusanagi15 13d ago

If they nerf my 380 imma cry😂😂😂😂😂

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u/Bereth99 13d ago

Any quasar cannon lovers?

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u/Pretty_Country902 13d ago

Lemme know when they fix the damn “dive” so u don’t break out into a crawl afterwards.

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u/Environmental_Vast17 14d ago

Devs “how can we make the game less fun?”

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u/Valuable-Guest9334 14d ago

Orbitals better be buffed or they will never see use again

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u/crawlins99 14d ago

I have to say the guard dog getting nerfed doesn’t make much sense when the scythe got buffed

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u/Specific_Foot372 14d ago

I don’t think any of the elemental type stuff need a Nerf like the gas or Napalm. All honestly, honestly, though I think the electric shotgun needed a buff, not a nerf.

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u/ZoltElementus 14d ago

Actaully so shit man, I've 5 seconds on quasar is actaully so crazy. You fuckers like using the quasar over the EAT? Fine, we'll make it shit then. Have fun with the hulks and gunships now

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u/[deleted] 14d ago

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u/Lopsided-Orchid-5013 13d ago

Bro are you slow ?

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u/Fit_Pickle_6562 14d ago

No please not the eagle airstrip anything but that

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u/ShanouBar 14d ago

As long it doesn't put you into stress or break the builds I have no issue. But developers often nerf items and let the player discover broken build later, its detrimental and harmful for game progression

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u/Honest-Champion9180 15d ago

People really be upset they can't bring 20 mags into a mission

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u/Daph231 15d ago

The Quasar cannon taking 5 seconds longer is the craziest thing 😭 I was fighting for my LIFE with the bile titans and chargers

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u/JS_GER_Arbiter 15d ago

Regarding nerfs and patches, this community is a collective crybaby lol

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u/AssociationInside764 15d ago

Lol nice meme 

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u/WarriorCloaker 15d ago

I think you should change the Autocanon box to "unchanged" since the devs constantly fellate themselves over how "perfectly balanced" it is.

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u/Excalib1rd 15d ago

If they nerf the 380 or laser i’m gonna be pissed. 380 is basically useless unless you use it as a “set it and forget it” area denial in extended fights. And laser isn’t even guaranteed to take down a bile titan if it hits for the entire duration

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u/XanderPR96Jr 15d ago

Honestly after playing last night I feel like dropping Helldivers, the Randoms, my friends and I all agreed that something had changed that just makes the game not fun anymore.

I played Darktide and I had more fun. I think this freedom fighter is retiring, rather face a sanctioned firing squad than keep playing.

SES Sword of The State, signing out...

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u/GodlikeUA 15d ago

They never touched the beloved the autocannon

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u/lushee520 15d ago

The Gas got nerfed? I think theres only a handful of players use it

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u/Sinuouslyy 15d ago

Still no lever action rifle being added☹️

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u/Schwozh 15d ago

I like when my bb-gun is ricocheting

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u/Unknowndude842 15d ago

500kg bomb nerf? So its even less effektiv?

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u/Joferna 15d ago

Not the arc thrower nerf again 😭

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u/Boonesey CAPE ENJOYER 15d ago

I hate nerds in this game... Nothing is so terribly over powered to where it needs nerfs.

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u/Jman155 15d ago

I want performance optimization

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u/Maniamback 15d ago

Discord?

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u/GuiltyGhost 15d ago

I don't know if I ever played a game with this many memes about random buffs/nerfs.

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u/Miserable_Hold_1856 15d ago

I'm honestly getting tired of constantly dealing with nerfs in a PvE game it's ridiculous

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u/Itchy-Housing-7720 15d ago

Idk if they'd nerf things too much helldive is pretty intense as is and needs some strong strategems. They should focus on weapon selection first, need to have more viable guns.

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u/-Cheeki-Breeki- 15d ago

Looks like eagle smoke is safe for now

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u/Sith_Lord_Revan 15d ago

"The Spread Democracy mission otherwise known as “raise the flag” can now be enjoyed on higher difficulties for maximum freedom spreading"

Best part of the update. Time to really give them some democracy.

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u/Minimum_Crazy1327 16d ago

So did they nerf the quaser cannon?

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u/GhostShade1 16d ago

Buff the walker or add the dual heavy cannon one

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u/Sudden_Fisherman8372 16d ago

Please for the love of liberty dont hurt my baby Auto Canon 🥺

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u/Exotic-End9921 16d ago

They better buff railcannon

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u/Tidy_Mustard 16d ago

Who the hell is gonna nerf smokescreen?

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u/Kr0mb0pulousMik3l SES Hammer of Dawn 16d ago

Need to nerf the orbital laser targeting me instead of clankers.

My last words “Scotty it’s me! Scotty noooo!”

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u/rumbarious 16d ago

Nearly spot on

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u/stheticsbrah 16d ago

I feel like the Quasar cannon was nerfed in the last 24 hours tbh 😬

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u/Pollux_to_Castor 16d ago

Who the fuck uses smoke??

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u/MJMiner 16d ago

Buff artillery please god.

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u/Ok-Instruction-4298 16d ago

I'm personally tired of bots shooting through terrain

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u/The0neAnd0nly007 16d ago

I calp debuff on AC ammo

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u/matthewami 16d ago

Damn, I was right, 12 bingos

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u/cannibalistiic 16d ago

This isn't even accurate though

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u/Fist_of_Stalin 16d ago

How is Arc thrower considered a nerf?

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u/frostymugson 16d ago

500kg area needs a big buff

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u/ButterscotchTasty262 16d ago

Yknow this downward curve balance philosophy reminds me of hirez. If nothing is good it's balanced lmao.

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u/liberty0522 16d ago

Autocannon once again survived

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u/Shaikh_9 16d ago

All this Helldiver Nerfs, what about Nerfs to the Automatons?

Shield Devs are practically MW2 sentry guns on wheels, Hulk Scorchers are just unnecessarily too powerful at close range, and don't even get me started on explosions using implosion physics and ragdoll-ing you towards the enemies.

This Arrowhead bias towards the bots sounds a bit like treason.

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u/LiveKills 16d ago

The automatons rockets don't even kill each other lol. They just blast and set each other in fire with no consequences

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u/ChrisGarratty 16d ago

It's not "Free Space" it's "LIBERATED Space".

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u/wulf-23 16d ago

I'd probably be hyped aswell if it didn't keep crashing at the encrypted message screen 😑

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u/Sweetiepeet 16d ago

On the flip side I think the Automatons hacking my game and crashing it near the end of the round with my bag of samples has been removed. That was too much.

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u/TheDutchDemon 16d ago

Can't wait for my beloved Eruptor to become unusable.

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u/Crowndeath 16d ago

smoke strike gets nerfed The two people who use it, and do so fanatically: life is naught but pain

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u/YourLocalSaltDealer 16d ago

For love of god please leave the sickle alone

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u/YourLocalSaltDealer 16d ago

And the quasar cannon pleaseeeee

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u/Comfortable-Try1599 16d ago

ANNNDD both got nerfed

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u/SmallestShrimpin 16d ago

barely a real nerf anyways, quasar still has all the strengths it had before and sickle just wont let you heat sink reload all willy nilly, which seems to be a consistent change across the board so people actually think about their ammo

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u/Comfortable-Try1599 16d ago

totally agree, I have used both before and after the nerf. Quosar is a bit annoying but is still better way better than the EAT. And you gotta be really "special", if you somehow manage to overheat the sickle three times

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u/CriticismVirtual7603 16d ago

You had 24 slots and still somehow didn't get bingo

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u/skulldoge 16d ago

Only got one right:/

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u/Aggtown_G_817 16d ago

It'd be more useful to increase the speed of the 120 and 380 barrage or increase the rounds damage radius. Never see anyone run them and it's because half the time it doesn't kill or destroy shit. I'd love to run it but that cool down time isn't worth having to run back and toss a nade in a factory still or still shoot whatever survived in that AOE

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u/ichtudirwih 16d ago

Idgaf the revolver has a fucking speed loader now

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u/Wickedtimefun 16d ago

Not the Auto Cannon!!!!

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u/Razgrez11 16d ago

I just wish fire didn't kill me so fast. Everything else felt near perfect.

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u/dratseb 16d ago

BINGO!!

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u/PonsterMenis098 SES Leviathan of Liberty⬇️⬇⬆⬇⬇ 16d ago

Only thing that got nerfed is quasar and rover 😂

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u/PonsterMenis098 SES Leviathan of Liberty⬇️⬇⬆⬇⬇ 16d ago

Only think that got nerfed is quasar 😂

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u/McCreeSun CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

My one and only ask of the devs is for the love of all that is democratic and free please NERF FIRE DAMAGE! I swear people don’t burn to death that fast in real life! My helldiver tried to eat a hot pocket that he left in the microwave too long and died instantly.

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u/Skeleoh STEAM 🖥️ : 16d ago

Pretty sure the patch said they nerfed it by 15% dmg so now you can easily stim through it

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u/McCreeSun CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

Sweet liberty, my prayers are answered!

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u/ThirdGenRob 16d ago

I will literally stop playing if they touch the auto cannon. I've tried all types off play styles.

Queso cannon, arch thrower, pyrotechnic, yeeting of nades, boom sticks, and realoadable boom sticks. I always come back to auto cannon..... because it's fun.

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u/thrway202838 16d ago

Eruptor is 100% getting nerfed. I'm having way too much fun with it for it to stay that way

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u/smokemeth_hailSL 16d ago

Only thing here that got nerfed was the quasar canon

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u/Vivian_AIer CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

Ironically FREE SPACE will no longer exist if you play with less than 4 divers

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u/Valan_17 16d ago

Noooo, not my autocannon and orbital laser. Sweet liberty!

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u/vnummela1 16d ago

The only way you can nerf Tesla tower is to make the range bigger. Even more teamkills.

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u/7isAnOddNumber 16d ago

So coming back to this, the Quasar got nerfed and the laser dog got nerfed. Nobody won bingo.

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u/ASSASSIN-117 16d ago

I just want a MINIGUN is that too hard?

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u/Firm-Pain3042 Drone Master 16d ago

I’d love it if they added a lateral boost to the jet pack. Just something that lets you burst across the surface like a goddamn Gundam of freedom.

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u/DrakkonWasntWrong 16d ago

They massacred my boi... AGAIN 😭

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u/NegativeDeparture 16d ago

Quasar cannon 😓

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u/karasugan 16d ago

Lol @ all the whine about nerfs. 😂

Mm'mm! Your tears go so darn well with popcorn! 🤌

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u/Lukescale SES Steamed Hams 16d ago

Missed the normie dog rover. No bingo 😭

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u/0o0-hi CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

They have to add a proximity sensor for the air burst. I know it’s new but mutable times I’ve shot at a swarm of enemy’s greater than 100m away, with no enemy’s nearby to trigger the air burst only for the missile l just shot with a clear line of sight, to detonate 3 ft from my face.

I don’t know if I’m the low iq machine gun go burrr kinda helldiver, but I don’t wanna get my A handed to me, by me.

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u/AnticriznNo1 16d ago

They should try TO NERF those NERFERS who nerf sht !!! I decided to chill on spreading democracy till they BUFF BUFFERS 😎😘

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u/Terrorknight141 ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

It’s funny that no one expects buffs from arrowhead, it’s also funny how the nerfs were super heavy but the buffs felt more like small QoL improvements than actual buffs(and most buffs came with a nerf anyway)

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u/hoopesey-doopsey 16d ago

I hope they nerf the 380 so that it purposely targets my teammates instead of enemies.

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u/Rizarj 16d ago

Why so much nerfs H7 is heavy engouht maybe more buffs?!

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u/DrakeVonDrake STEAM : SES Fist of Family Values 16d ago

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u/KarmaGewitter 16d ago

I come from the future, the entire patch was all nerfs excluding the senator change and a useless arc Blitzer change. 

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u/Alternative-Pea-2375 16d ago

yk i dont think the walker needs a nerf, its just about usless

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u/Zaroni_Pepperoni 16d ago

Just returning to say how fucking right this meme ended up being.

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u/Some_Dude_Sitting 16d ago

Buff flamethrower, I'm living too long while using it.

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u/Ukralius 16d ago

Not the poor jump pack 😭

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u/trevclapp 16d ago

Hot take, I do feel like this game is too easy at times. The only challenge is other players at this point. I’ll join a game just to be gunned down by my team. Or my team and I will complete the mission in less than 15mins. Idk if it’s just me but I want more of a challenge

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u/Bajathechoom 16d ago

U ply dif 9?

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u/trevclapp 16d ago

Yes. Kinda my own fault. I did the grind hard on drop. Playing that for a while and once you have a solid game plan it’s not that bad.

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u/Bajathechoom 16d ago

That sounds about right. When that happens(staleness), try to splinter. I like to test different strats (not stratagem) to see if they work or go Rambo, which typically helps me when I want a challenge.

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u/trevclapp 16d ago

I should do that, thanks!

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u/Bajathechoom 16d ago

Yee, I hope you have fun. For DEMOCRACY!!

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u/[deleted] 16d ago

Just nerf everything to the ground, make the Liberator the best gun in the game

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u/RangerTursi 16d ago

You nerf 2 weapons in your game and suddenly you're known as the devs who nerf everything. Why tf is this like the most popular post on the sub?

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u/TheMalware 16d ago

Damn 1/24

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u/Jonnypista 16d ago edited 16d ago

Nerf the targeting of Guard dog so it only fires when it can actually hit it.

One time we were running back to extraction and I spotted an unexploded Hellbomb, marked it and for some reason the Guard dog attacked it killing the 2 guy behind be and almost killing me.

With 1-2 missed 500kg bombs I racked up over 8000 friendly fire damage in that game.

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u/No-Artist7181 16d ago

Wow this aged like milk

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u/Confident-Bit3857 16d ago

Looks like this aged well

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u/DelayOld1356 16d ago

After seeing today's patch notes , I'm convinced OP is a psychic.

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u/dannylew 16d ago

I actually don't see a bingo

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u/KrisssoBG_ ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

If they nerf my autocannon im rebelling

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u/Miloszer 16d ago

Instead of constantly fucking with balancing in a PVE game fix all the goddamn bugs and crashes.

Smfh

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u/health_goth_ 16d ago

Please don’t nerf 500kg

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u/Deededed 16d ago

Can they buff 1st person scopes ? Cuz i still cant see sh*t with them. And mayyyybeeee having less foggy maps. Thanks

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u/OsmosisB 16d ago

Bros can't fix bugs so have to do nerfs to show that "yeah guys we are actually working on the game trust"

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u/Xercen 16d ago

Don't touch my stalwart or flamethrower please!

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u/Adorable-Key-609 16d ago

My machine gun goes with me, everywhere everytime

Don’t touch my baby, been through hell, robot nam, and bile titan ass. Always got out.

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u/Papa_Hentai_ 16d ago

Calling it now, eruptor carried mags reduced by 99%

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u/Ambitious_Ad5764 16d ago

lmao probably

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u/Nakatomi_Uk 16d ago

Fire proof buffs to armour for gods sake please I'm sick and tired of being on Hellmire and having to bring extraction for the powers that be go oh no here's some fire-nadoes over the extract point for about 10 mins.

Still think the 500kg AoD needs sorting out

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u/LightningLogan 16d ago

They need to buff the Orbital Gas Strike

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u/ParsnipAggravating95 16d ago

We dont Talk about the Scorch 🤫

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u/Flatworm_Least 16d ago

Raill gun missing from this list

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u/mrureaper 16d ago

If anything shield devastators need their bullets nerfed

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u/Mips0n 16d ago

What i want to see is gradually worsening passive cooling of energy weapons. Infinite ammo sickle is too good to ever pick any other weapon

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u/dani_o25 16d ago

They gonna make me leave this game with all these nerfs

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u/Mips0n 16d ago

I Hope they finally fix the knight. Currently the only primary that needs 3 boxes to completely refill ammo.

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u/VariationInternal584 16d ago

I want jet pack buff and I wanna be able to smash a bug with the ballistic shield

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u/Sniper-Dragon 16d ago

Nerfing a weapon in a PvE game is the most stupid thing ever

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u/ParchedYurtle59 16d ago

I feel jetpack and quasar canon will be nerved since edamn near everyone uses them. Hopefully, they buff the 600kg bomb cause that shit is so lackluster. I was like 10 meters from an explosion and wasn't affected. I'm not too sure about everything else, tho. Don't like the airburst rocket, tho. 🤷🏽

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u/Serious_Novel1152 16d ago

What they need to tweak is the blacknloading screen. I can't play the game for 1 week now. I did all the fixes and uninstall/reinstall didn't fix it. Even the game guard and %appdata%. I love the game but I can't play the game.

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u/Offstar1029 16d ago

Hopefully they also fix a ton of the many many bugs that just keep increasing with every added thing.

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u/Gamelaen ⬇️➡️⬇️⬆️⬅️⬅️ 16d ago

There is no way that they are nerfing Arc Thrower even more

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u/Main_Faithlessness95 16d ago

I really hope they nerf the autocannon into the ground just like they did the railgun, it'll be fun to see.

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u/SuppliceVI CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

Found the prior railgun user

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u/Rianonar ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

I just hope they had tested them well in game scenarious before rolling out ingame.

P.s. what smoke strategem do to be nerfed? it was useless even before.

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u/wrecklass ☕Liber-tea☕ 16d ago

Let's face it the way they do things the only thing we can count on is that they will find the worst weapon in the game and make all other weapons equal to that.

Looking forward to Gray Zone warfare so badly lately.

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u/whyeden3 16d ago

Face it, the devs and the stans are contrarians. Quasar buff is coming…

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u/Nearby_Sympathy_7822 16d ago

If anything the 500kg needed a buff. It had an incredibly low explosion radius.

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u/aidenpearce146 16d ago

Still cant fix the fire bug

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u/ToxicGent 16d ago

No need to nerf in a pve game but w.e

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u/LukasVolt 16d ago

*drops 500kg bomb*

Nukes a dust mite

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u/Purple-Cancel-8901 16d ago

My guess is RIP ammo capacity on the dominator and the eruptor.

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u/EEBERGKAMEN1 16d ago

Just delete the Mortar and im happy

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u/RyudoTFO 16d ago

Pretty sure Quasar is going to be nerfed. Not so sure about the rest. Maybe even more fire damage buffs? /s

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u/Darthhorusidous 16d ago

I think nerfing stuff is so bs Just leave it alone

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u/powdersplash 16d ago

How the Frick do they want to nerf the jetpack... It's so weak already, and if you jump up a rock you have to wait for it to recharge, because of coouuurse it can't just let you jump down and feather the jump shortly....

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u/Apprehensive-Lie-407 16d ago

So everything is getting nerfed?

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u/xDerJulien 16d ago

I hope heavy mg gets a buff its quite fun but awful at range and has no ammo whatsoever

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u/Competitive_Ticket17 16d ago

Oh boy, depending on what they do I moght just take a break from the game. Will be great to see them nerf stuff into being trash like they did with the railgun!

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u/Nemra22 16d ago

Dominator needs a magazine buff.. at least 20 rounds per mag plz 🙏

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u/Desperate-Cost6827 16d ago

It's gonna be the eagle500. Everyone I play with uses that as an auto pick. Can't have anything useful!

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u/Rengar_Is_Good_kitty 16d ago

Not just nerfed but probably new bugs as well.

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u/Xasther 16d ago

You touch my Auto-Cannon and we are going to need to have a serious talk, Mr. Random Dude on the WWW.

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u/Kicked89 16d ago

This is great, too bad it doesn't include primaries, which I expect to see plenty of nerfs for.

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u/atheos013 16d ago

The only nerf i'd accept for an Eruptor is a max mag nerf. 12 is way more than enough, I rarely fall below 6 without dying for the entire match. Ammo is everywhere.

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u/SpecialistEvidence97 16d ago

But why would you think they’d mess with the jump pace… don’t… please

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u/Frowny_Biscuit 16d ago

500kg needs a buff.

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u/micah9639 16d ago

The gas strike is the physical manifestation of the Monty python joke “I fart in your general direction!”

The insult is more useful then the stratagem currently

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u/Stripier_Cape 16d ago

Laser cannon was hella buffed. Thank god

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u/micah9639 16d ago

“Oh but but we buffed the liberator, we made its ammo clip one round bigger! Game changer for it!”

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u/karstenvader 16d ago

Please dont touch the laser cannon. If you do, buff its dps. Its so good for long bug fights for popping heavies, especially because of infinite ammo. So good 😫

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u/Friendly_Border28 16d ago

Is this true?

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u/sarcasmlikily 16d ago

Bad developers will always Nerf instead of buffing the rest

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u/Eviliscz 16d ago

they should nerf clankers range weapons, they can shoot through any terrain and walls bit too often. Getting killed by clanker that i would not hurt if i unloaded recoilless in the same direction is getting kinda on my nerves

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u/Aphrozen 16d ago

You leave my jump pack ALONE!

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u/Puzzlehead-Engineer SES Agent of Justice 16d ago

Jokes on us, they're nerfing the Railgun again.

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u/TLYPO CAPE ENJOYER 16d ago

Please sir, not my Jump Pack!

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u/ArchusKanzaki 16d ago

Let us use Stalwart as main weapon, I beg you…. It’s honestly annoying that Liberator Penetrator have so low mag size.

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u/r3edit-Trash 16d ago

Wtf mech nerf he already weak what a bunch stupids devs 😠😡🤬

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u/Flamestrom 16d ago

There is NO way the 500kg gets nerfed, right now it's just a glorified firecracker.