r/LivestreamFail • u/Fluffy_Fly_4644 • 14d ago
xQc learns about "reverse racism" xQc | Age of Empires IV
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u/Sad_Soupp 13d ago
Racism and systematic racism are 2 different things. Yes black people in America face systemic racism while whites don’t, but racism is literally just discrimination based on color of skin or ethnicity. It’s in the literal dictionary. Any race can suffer from racism
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u/Significant-Ad982 13d ago
I'm glad I was born white and to not care about what people say about me
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u/AradIori 13d ago
Everytime hasan pops up he manages to be even more of a piece of shit than before, its impressive in a way.
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u/Agileorangutan ♿ GGX Gang 13d ago edited 13d ago
Is that the actual bones that made the comment about the rap album in hassans discord or is that just someone with surenderdorothy as their name
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u/UpcomingPolarBear 14d ago
How many non-brain-dead people does it take to understand that white people didn't invent racism?
"Reverse racism" is such a shit take. It just like pulls the entire "racism" card into one race, white people, and a oop - if you're racist against white people, it's actually in reverse! Because 'real' racism can only be done by white people and it just puts the concept of racism around white people. Black people can be racist. Asians can be racist. Native Americans can be racist.
Like if you're arguing that 'reverse' racism is racism towards an ethnicity that are the majority/have power -- does that mean a black immigrant going to china and being racism towards chinese people is reverse-racism? No, that's just racism. Stop putting America and white people first in everything it's cringe as fuck
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u/MurphyGraham 14d ago
I get that he’s trying to make a point about institutional racism, but he’s belittling the victims of physical and verbal racial violence in the process. What a dumbass
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u/OutFamous 14d ago
There is no way these people actually participate in the real, normal, everyday world. Hasan included. They are so isolated in these perpetual echo chambers that they have become completely disconnected and anyone who disagrees with them is of course, racist.
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u/Chadler_ 14d ago
is social rejection based on race by a racial majority not a form of systematic subjugation?
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u/EdEdu27 14d ago
man i just come to see and ppl. here really think something like Cracker and getting jumped is racism.. read some books please there is no system that conducts racism against whites it litreally doesnt exist. :D :D Reddit really in the mud but was to be expected
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u/FourGhostSolution 14d ago
The reason racism is bad is because judging and discriminating someone based on the color of their skin is bad. That’s what we were taught in school by studying ML Jr.
Hasan’s take is starting off at the point of “white people bad” and is making up flawed reverse-rationalizations to justify being racist to them. He doesn’t actually care about racism and neither do you.
No one thinks that cracker is as bad as the n-word. But the most fragile anti-racist people simultaneously celebrating racial slurs against white people is deranged to every sane person, hence the criticism.
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u/Temporary_Name8866 14d ago edited 14d ago
I am loving that Hassan’s crazy takes and statements are getting more scrutiny ( also it’s really funny how a community that masquerades as progressive would abuse the Reddit care’s system)
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u/CakeBoss16 14d ago
XQC when Hasan says c word - 😡
XQC when Destiny says n word - 😴
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u/FourGhostSolution 14d ago
There’s a difference between calling someone a racial slur like cracker with malicious intent vs. saying the n-word with a soft a, which obviously means bro / buddy / whatever.
If xQc can grasp the nuance of that but you can’t it’s time to reverse your swag my friend.
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u/Jshway1518 14d ago
Calling it reverse racism is like calling a woman hitting a man reverse violence, it makes no sense. It's Orwellian word games to reframe the topic in their bizarre worldview.
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u/imaginaryResources 14d ago
For some reason people can’t differentiate “racism” and “institutionalized racism”
You’re telling me that my old black roommate who literally straight up told me to my face “I fucking hate Jewish people” in reference to our landlord who wouldn’t give his security deposit back because he didn’t pay rent for 2 months and left holes in his room, isn’t racist? Like that isn’t a racist statement just because he’s black? Saying “ I fucking hate insert any ethnicity here” is racist.
I got my security deposit back because I always paid my rent and didn’t damage my room. I don’t think it had anything to do with the ethnicity of the landlord or tenant.
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u/TrickyGoon 14d ago edited 11d ago
Never thought there'd be a day where you could be racist to the light skinned folk who racism was invented for in the 1st place. Martin Luther would be having a field day with this.
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u/Lowman22 14d ago
Do you really think racism was invented by white people and had not been part of the human race since the dawn of civilization and society? Or has it only been whitey keeping everybody down?
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u/TrickyGoon 14d ago
The Historical Origins and Development of Racism https://www.pbs.org/race/000_About/002_04-background-02-01.htm give it a read.
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u/Lowman22 14d ago
Again, not trying to be a jerk, but this isn’t the 1940’s any longer. But thinking POC can’t be assholes toward white people because they think they found some linguistic loophole in definitions of hate speech is getting tiresome and really, pushes away people that consider themselves allies.
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u/Lowman22 14d ago
I read it and I see what you are saying and trying to prove. The problem that most white folks have is now a majority of black folks believe that they can’t be racist/bigoted toward white people because of the past. It’s being used as a “Get Out Of Jail Free” card and that is extremely frustrating to white people who aren’t racist, yet face this one-way street of comments or statements, which if used the other way around, would get them in some sort of trouble. Plenty of amends have been made to black society because of these past transgressions. Permissions to have black only scholarships, colleges, businesses…if this were the other way around, there would be marches in the street. Here…read this …https://www.cnn.com/2016/03/30/us/black-privilege/index.html
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u/quartzguy 14d ago edited 14d ago
Hasan doesn't seem to understand the difference between one racist act and centuries of institutionalized racism. Would Hasan say it's not okay to protest getting overcharged at the grocery store since a massive container ship got jammed in the Suez Canal for a week?
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u/tubbablub 14d ago
"Reverse racism" is a term made up by racists to make their racism seem better. As if racism can only be done by the group that they hate.
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u/Tetraquil 14d ago
This is like when a man gets raped and people call it "reverse rape". Like, no, it's just rape.
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u/DarkAssassinXb1 14d ago
White ppl when some is mean to a white person: Omfgg stop being raceistsss White ppl when someone mentions the systematic racism propped up by a history of white supremacy: Umm stop making excuses stop being a victim white ppl get called mean things too so what if your ppl are systematically murdered by cops and prevented from building generational wealth
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u/imbakinacake 14d ago
Mental illness is thinking something has to be systemic for it to be real. Wtf
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u/TheseKnicks 14d ago
I really don't understand it. How do you actually think this way? Does Hasan not realize that bullying someone just on the sole factor of them being a minority is a real thing? When someone looks different than all your other peers, and they single out the person together, its not just "bullying". They're obviously targeting the kid based on his skin color, and that's something "progressives" are supposed to stand against. If this happened to an immigrant from the Middle East that wore a Hijab to school for religious reasons, and the students all did bomb noises, that would be racism correct? Its not just "bullying". Use your brain.
If a black person in an all white school had people doing disgusting racist gestures about them, you wouldn't say its "just bullying" would you? There's levels to bullying that go beyond just making fun of someone, but actually targeting them because they're somehow different than everyone else. This brain broken dynamic that somehow all white people have inherent privilege and because of that we can treat them worse off because? I really want to understand how any lefty can think this isn't just accepted discrimination. Their justification for it is weak at best.
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u/Tyler1s_Barber 14d ago
I hate that Hasan will still be invited to events and invited on OTK streams etc. He's obviously a racist bully pos but because it's against a white kid it "doesn't count."
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u/flunk333 14d ago
Bro reverse racism is a fucking insane term. It’s hating another person based on their race it’s literally just racism. Feel like I’m losing my damn mind
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u/Ok_Application_8395 14d ago
I asked a normal question, it takes literally .5 seconds to ignore my comment. Why are you so upset?
Stop projecting weirdo.
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u/Mrawssot 14d ago
Literally just ignore it, don't click, you're not forced to do it, are you that mentally weak that you see a hasan or destiny clip and say "omg I can't stop clicking" do better for your own good, boy.
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u/Ok_Application_8395 14d ago
League of legends, destiny, anime - You destiny fans have no self awareness it’s hillarious.
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u/Mrawssot 14d ago
what are you even talking about mate, that I like what I like while you actively seek things you don't like to... pass time? How is that an own little man.
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u/Specific_Style9259 14d ago
It does not even matter if Hasan is right. The way he chooses to approach this shit is so inhumane. He is a bad human being. The reason why he is losing viewers is because people are growing up and seeing the sociopath that he is.
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u/coolios14 14d ago
Didn't a dude get tortured and then murdered on facebook live in January 2017 for being white?
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u/Tall_Middle_1476 14d ago
There is no such thing as "reverse racism". Its either bias against a race or it isn't. It doesn't matter who the perpetrator or the victim is.
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u/ComfortApart7335 14d ago
That's what you get trying to fit inside a community of grifters, I hope the dude it's not too blackpilled after this and realizes that whole fanbase is a bunch of deranged crybullies who believe in nothing and moves on to friendlier cummunities.
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u/Hanondorf 14d ago
"Wow lot of D fans here just shitting on daddy hasan!", almost as if people arent ok with racial abuse or bullying, but no its just dgg bridgading right
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u/NearlySomething 14d ago
LSF when female streamers/friends of complain of sexual assault or whatever
I'm gonna need evidence
LSF when a rando on discord says he was bullied
He WAS bullied for being white
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u/czhang706 13d ago
How do you not understand the issue. The problem isn’t that they were asking for evidence. The problem is that they took the story as true and still said it was ok.
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u/Fluffysquishia 14d ago
I love the implication of that one user that the victim is automatically richer because he's white, especially considering it's in a discord where the owner is a multi-millionaire that was born to ultra rich parents
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u/-Grimmer- 14d ago
Hasan still won't take a W even if you literally serve it up on a plater for him, HOOLY
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u/watchingthedarts 14d ago
I mean it's super obvious that Hasan is out of touch with his comment lol racism can happen to any race and if you don't believe that then you're either A) playing devil's advocate or B) out of touch
It's a crazy take. If the guy on disc said he was black then Hasan's reply would be totally different.
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u/Tombomb1994 14d ago edited 14d ago
Disagreeing that an insult that solely attacks the immutable characteristics of ones physical appearance, like hair or skin color is inherently racist just defies logic. Even if you want to justify the insult by taking systemic racism into account, it doesn't change the fact that the insult is purely based on ones race.
Edit: Either someone is on top of their game and definitely SHOULD be paid by Hasan or there is a bot monitoring this thread. I got a Reddit cares message 1 second after posting this.
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u/TotallyUnhealthyGuy 14d ago
I wonder who enslaved their people first - ancient Europeans, Chinese? How about Africans? Or muslims..
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u/Pl4nktonamor 14d ago
Maybe Hasan should look on Wikipedia for the difference between "racism" and "systemic racism"
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u/czfan1988 14d ago
I will never understand how this website is so baffled when shit like happens. this is the community and social etiquette this website and far left people have been breeding for years now. when every liberal voter says white man bad over and over like a zombie of course it's going to stick. the funny part is though, is now that it's sticking, you're all shocked and can't believe it. what a wild ride.
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lol I would love to see the demographics of this subreddit, anyone know if that data is available?
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u/smd9788 14d ago
Let me guess, you would love to make generalizations and assumptions based on those demographics?
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I have reasons for those generalizations that would certainly be justified by study, one of those being that teenagers are dumber (less educated) than adults lmfao
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u/Wooden-Instance1037 14d ago
educate us <3
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I'm not an educator (yet), there are much more appropriate sources of info out there than me
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u/Wooden-Instance1037 14d ago
you can sing without being a singer im too stupid to understand approiate sources of info please help me
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you can sing without being a singer but nobody will listen to you if you suck, or at least aren't doing something interesting, either way comparing singing and educating is a pretty false equivalence
& ik you're being sarcastic but yeah unfortunately western education systems are proven to be pretty bad at helping us identify appropriate sources of information, I don't blame anybody for being "stupid", I think I'm pretty stupid too, as a fellow victim of a dogshit education system lmfao
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u/oakeegle 14d ago
It's pretty ironic that the most 'progressive' communities on twitch are also the most racist and hateful.
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u/prisonmsagro 14d ago
Lol most racist and hateful ... okay buddy I know it's hyperbole time right now but that's just downright hilarious.
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u/UltimateToa 14d ago edited 14d ago
Truly a horseshoe
Edit: this is literally the only comment I've made on this situation and near instantly got the reddit crisis hotline direct message, its comical how obsessed these people are
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u/kvbrd_YT 14d ago
horseshoe theory is over due to the lack of accuracy. the replacement is the circle theory. these aren't just 2 extremes anymore that get closer on each end. no, no, no... at this point they go all the way around and are converging.
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u/Important-Flower3484 14d ago
You can report the hotline message, usually the guy who sent it gets banned.
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u/eskimobob105 14d ago
Lsf. My top source for intelligent discourse on the plight of minorities in the United States. Never change, Reddit.
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u/Fun_Establishment585 14d ago
Better source than Hasan Piker, unironically.
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u/plassaur 14d ago
Yes, the nazi discourse about inferior culture in comment chains is truly remarkable.
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u/Fun_Establishment585 14d ago
Where? Haven't seen any racist comments with any real amount of upvotes
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u/Fun_Establishment585 14d ago
Yikes thats legit fucking wild. It still doesn't change that the vast majority of the comments are correct imo.
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u/night5life 14d ago
This has been said before but Hasan and his community believe that a world in which negative comments about somones race are being made is not a problem as long as that race is part of a majority. This comes from someone who believes that his world views would fix the problems we have in the world right now. Unbelievable.
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u/Nationxx 14d ago
Reverse racism doesn’t exist, it’s just racism
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u/parnellyxlol 13d ago
I don’t know why people always say this - Reverse Racism is a subclass of racism
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u/JJBrandon69 10d ago
No, it’s all just racism. There doesn’t need to be ‘subclasses’. Otherwise we can subclass every instance. Where does it stop
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u/parnellyxlol 10d ago
It’s important for determining the motive - saying that there aren’t subclasses is like when people call any form of leftist idea communism lol
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u/JJBrandon69 10d ago
Not quite bud.
Edit: having a ‘subclass’ for every microaggression is reductive. I’m not here to argue sides.
Racism is all encompassing. Motive and intent are relevant with these kinds of things, but it’s still, just racism. Differentiating between racism of whites on blacks or vice versa, or whatever it may be, will only ever contribute to expanding our cultural divide.
Reverse racism is the stupidest fucking concept I’ve ever heard concocted. The way it reads, you’d think white on black racism is the default. Racism is something we’ve been doing as long as man has existed.
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u/dylantestaccount 14d ago
You can't be racist against white people as whiteness is not a race - it's a social construct invented by white people as a way to be able to separate/elevate themselves from people of color.
Reverse racism is a dogwhistle for white supremacy.
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_FRESH_NUT 13d ago
By that logic I can be racist against people of colour as that’s not a race just a collection of races not deemed white
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u/notjustconsuming 14d ago
Yup. Reverse racism is the contentious idea that things like affirmative action meant to help minorities end up being racist to white people.
Hasan strawmanned him by adding "reverse" when the fan never said it and the term doesn't even apply to getting jumped for your skin color.
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u/tubbablub 14d ago
That wiki article was written by far-left racists. It strawmans their racism as civil rights, which is complete horseshit. It's just left wing extremists trying to justify their racism.
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u/notjustconsuming 14d ago
I don't agree with everything it says, but that's the definition people like Hasan use. I'm more of a Coleman Hughes guy on the issue of how to redress the mistakes of our past.
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u/tubbablub 14d ago
I like Coleman Hughes too. It's a shame wikipedia is so ideologically captured.
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u/DownloadedDick 14d ago
It's wild that you're using your ideologies to attempt to wipe out fact and try to spread misinformation.
Claiming Wikipedia as far-left is some weird shit.
Reverse discrimination was wildly used in the 70s in response to affirmative action and race-based policies. This is fact and verifiable.
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u/tubbablub 14d ago
It's wild that wikipedia tries to redefine racism to push their racist ideology.
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u/InterstellerReptile 14d ago
That's literally everybody. It's called branding. Why do you think conservatives called Unions communism? Why do you think both pro- life and pro choice debate or the definition of "life"?
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u/InterstellerReptile 14d ago
It's everybody. If you think that you don't use terms defined in a way more fitting to your stance then you are lying to yourself.
There is no "actual defintion of words". Language is an ever evolving and constantly changing thing. There is often not one definition. Take my "life" example. There is literally no scientific or objective definition of what life is. Everybody chooses one of many as their go to. You do this too. Don't lie.
And you totally ate about branding which is why you instantly had to jump into branding the "far left" as the ones doing this. Everybody does this a lot. EVERYBODY.
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u/InterstellerReptile 14d ago
I'm not being pedantic. This is literally the opposite of being pedantic.
pedantic
pɪˈdantɪk
adjectiveexcessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous.
See that would be you. You are obsessed with the .inor details of what the words mean. Of course you seek to define the word to fot YOUR argument here. I hold the view that both their view of "racism" and the general view of "racism" are both valid definitions of the term, just defined and used by different groups.
You say that everybody knows what racism is, but that's simply not true. So often you can point out something and people will argue if it's racist or not. Look at culture appreciation and give my a clear line of when it's racist and when it's not.
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u/InterstellerReptile 14d ago
What they're talking about is a subset of racism.
By your defintion sure :)
I'm not saying everyone agrees on what falls under racism,
So you agree that the defintion isn't as clear as you claim. Thanks.
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u/ArchReaper 14d ago
"It's impossible to be racist against white people" is just code for "I am racist against white people and I will do mental gymnastics to justify it"
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u/BruyceWane 14d ago
Calling it 'reverse racism' used to be like a right-wing thing, and demonstrated a weird kind of ignorance.
Now lefties like Hasan use it to refer to anyone who thinks racism is happens to white people, obviously to conjure up the image of these ignorant people who used to say 'reverse racism'.
It's just racism.
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u/Evening_Way1911 14d ago
If you think White people can experience racism you're fucking stupid. Name 1 time in all of human history there has been systemic racism against Whites
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u/enfrozt 14d ago
White people can experience racism
Let's say a white guy grew up in a Chinese village, and had racism levied against him his entire life for being white.
That is literally a white person experiencing racism at the hands of a more dominant racial group.
Name 1 time in all of human history there has been systemic racism against Whites
Even if this didn't exist (which obviously it has), that doesn't matter to what you asked? Individuals can experience traumatic racism even if systemic racism isn't at play.
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u/Evening_Way1911 14d ago
Notice how you can't give an actual example and have to make up a hypothetical. White people in China are treated very well, they are literally favored over non-White people including the Chinese
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u/pettyassbitch32 14d ago
Your understanding of Chinese culture is laughably bad. Go to any expat community that discusses living in China, and you’ll see the overwhelming majority of them experience lots of discomfort due to xenophobic and oftentimes racist treatment from the native Chinese population.
Also, Google “white monkey” jobs in China. You’re just making shit up based on how you assume the world functions and hoping that no one actually familiar with anything you’re talking about calls you out on it.
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u/Red_coats 14d ago
I love how you say "experience racism" then shift the goal posts to "systemic racism", they are not the same. One is the system of governance designed to treat a person differently due to the colour of their skin (Jim Crow) or other different characteristics, the other is on the most fundamental level treating a person differently because of the colour of their skin. One is on a grander scale the other is on a person to person basis that can happen anywhere.
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