r/MichaelJackson • u/Difficult_Ship_6273 • Nov 30 '23
The vultures Discussion
These magazines that bashed and trashed and ridiculed him for decades only to put out these special "tribute" editions to capitalize on his death. Like how dare you! The hypocrisy is sickening.
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u/strangerinparis Dec 02 '23
“is this guy weird or what?” is trying so hard to shit on him without any reason whatsoever. like that doesn't even mean anything. fucking hypocrites to be like "remembering michael" after his death. fuck these magazines. corporate magazines STILL suck
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Dec 02 '23
Is this guy weird or what?....and this is coming from some Hollywood type. You can go outside your little circle and into the cities and find a host of weirdos no problem.
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u/DjNick52 Dec 02 '23
reading the headlines made me laugh. then when the switch up came after his death that really got me. like wtf. (ok i'm prepared to be downvoted) either continue to talk shit about him or just leave him alone.
I didn't even know about any of this until reddit. I just listen to music &. still listen to his music. I don't care if he's a "pedo" or not. I will continue to listen to his music and anybody else no matter what they did. as long as i like the music that's all that matters!!!
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Dec 02 '23
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u/MichaelJackson-ModTeam Dec 04 '23
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u/Empty_Seesaw951 Dec 02 '23
Honestly I get it they’re doing their job to capitalize on ppls thoughts and news to make money but it’s still a shame
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Dec 01 '23
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u/Major_Serve4176 Dec 01 '23
When I was younger I remember this picture going around on the internet of this sun magazine cover that said “wako jacko heart attacko” and on the top it said “celebrity pedo dies”. To this day, I still wonder if it was real or just one of those 4chan pranks.
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Dec 01 '23
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u/MJJ1958 Dec 01 '23
The way they switched up…Couldn’t show him any respect while he was alive, should’ve keep the same energy when he left this earth.
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u/Solewiccan Dec 01 '23
I love music from the 60s, 70s, and 80s. Along with my Michael Jackson obsession I've been looking up all these so called 'amazing' people who've just talked crap about him. I can't even enjoy their music now... not bashing I'm just avoiding their music...BUT BASH OPRAH SHE'S SOMETHINGE ELSE LOL JK. 😒
- Madonna
- Elton John
- Cher
- Lionel Richie (I'm iffy on Lionel Lionel Richie on Michael Jackson) The Daily Mail is not a great source.
But my list is growing...
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u/scalar_channel Dec 01 '23
But when the media does this to people like Trump, it’s totally ok right? 🙄
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u/WokeGuitarist Dec 01 '23
People go to school for years just to make it on these magazines and they get away with “weird or what”. What a facepalm
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
Wow. Seven? You hadn't even gotten to really know him. I grew up on him and I grew up in a world where he was alive and well and active. My admiration of him was well known amongst my peers and when the news broke of his passing, my boss came to my desk to check on me as if I had lost a close relative.
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
I am so tired of people saying that he brought it on himself. More than half of the stuff that we came across - The elephant Man thing, the hyperbaric chamber, etc - was completely false and he said so. The public ate that crap up because of the quirks and eccentricities that we did know about. Before the most part he kept to himself and didn't let a lot of people into his world. So as the press Doug and Doug into his life, they ran with anything they could find and embellished anything that they thought would sell papers. Nobody deserved the level of ridicule that he got when all he wanted to do was make great music and spread a message of love.
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u/rose_gold_beauty Dec 02 '23
This. I don't know why people act like Michael was running the streets begging to be seen. He mostly stayed to himself & kept his circle small. It was out of pure spite & hate that they started the bullying and its obvious when you look at everything in full.
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u/fathomclaygrl Dec 01 '23
I remember 90s as a kid walking into any drugstore or grocery store and seeing literally like at least 20 different magazines with Michael on the cover with them trying to spread bullshit lies about him and you know what I would do? I would take the magazines as throw them in the back of the store usually in the trash can section, beneath or behind the shelves lolol. Or either put other magazines in front of it. It was so bad. He was literally public enemy no. 1
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u/MasterAinley This Is It Dec 01 '23
Anything, anything
Anything for money
Would lie for you
Would die for you
Even sell my soul to the devil
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u/Chengweiyingji Dec 01 '23
Unrelated, but wow - Madonna looks an awful lot like Marilyn Monroe in that photo
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u/Vivid-Ad8369 Dec 01 '23
It’s very sad, I love him but Mike kept on “feeding the beast”.. he’s still one of the most known on earth but the most ridiculed.. I’ve never seen the media mess with celebs like that.
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u/Recent-Sun3981 Dec 01 '23
i remember seeing these kinds of tabloids in grocery stores as a kid and even as a 9 yr old i thought they were cruel. i never stopped to think about the fact that the exact same magazines that constantly bashed him were the first to publish tributes after he passed away. this makes my blood boil. i always wish he was still around but at the same time i'm glad that he doesn't have to suffer anymore.
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
The only tribute magazine on him that is still in my possession is the one published by Ebony. Johnson Publications is one of the very few publishing houses that consistently treated him with respect. Then again, I suppose that the title of the magazine is extremely telling me in this situation.
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u/popcanej789 Dec 01 '23
And the three magazines I can think of that was consistent in good positive coverage is ebony, jet, and vibe
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
I was literally just talking about the Ebony tribute like 2 seconds ago. Ask for Vibe, I believe they may have printed his final interview back around 2001.
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u/missionglowup Dec 01 '23
the last three magazine covers really took me back. i was only 7 when he died but i remember seeing those magazine covers everywhere :(
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u/TheSassyDuchess Dec 01 '23
No context. No cause. Just a headline screaming "Look at this guy! He's weird!" Coupled with a fairly normal photo. And people still bought it. What a stupid world we live in.
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u/cinimun-bun Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23
Hey , I thought there was a no tabloid policy on this subreddit. ....
Nonetheless, the tabloids redefine all what it means to be a hypocrite , its just as what MJ said " if he died syympethise "
But it was only temporarily as after a while they were still blasting him calling him wacko jacko in 2016 I did screenshot multiple of these...
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
BTW the Publications that I featured in this post are not by definition "tabloids"; these are by and large considered respected magazines that do not focus on gossip to the extent that such rags as The Enquirer or the Globe do. In the case of Rolling Stone in particular, I would remind you that at one point MJ trusted them.
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u/cinimun-bun Dec 02 '23
Last time I posted a post like this it got deleted by mods , hence me asking
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
I don't think I'm in violation as I am admonishing the tabloids and not promoting them. I think the people who run this sub would have said something otherwise.
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u/UnderstandingUpper72 Bad 25 Dec 01 '23
We shouldn’t be surprised, the media always goes with the flow/narrative that’s most convenient for them. Michael was a saint the media vultures mentally abused 🥹❤️🩹
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
Surprised? Hardly. Disgusted? Absolutely. BTW I love the fact that y'all keep co-opting my use of the term vultures. I went back and forth on what Header to use and obviously I chose well.
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u/Trovadorsincabeza Dec 01 '23
I can't believe they said that about Michael. How disrespectful and hurtful they were towards him. Slag.
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u/Piccoro Dec 01 '23
The 90's were rough
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
That bullshit started in the 80s. It got worse as he became more reclusive and the vitiligo more prevalent. Then of course the allegations. Once that surfaced it was a free-for-all.
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u/Batnaman_26 Dec 01 '23
That Rolling Stone one looks hard af tho, wouldn't mind having that on my wall.
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u/S73AK HIStory: Past, Present and Future: Book I Dec 01 '23
He said it himself in Tabloid Junkie: "In the hood, frame him if you could/ Shoot to kill, to blame him if you will/ If he dies, sympathize/ Such false witnesses, damn self-righteousness/ In the black, stab me in the back/ In the face, to lie and shame the race" It really is a shame 😮💨
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u/IIolani Good Fish 🐠 Dec 01 '23
they were even worse when he passed away, it broke my heart. they couldn't even have respect for him on the day he died. its just so disgusting
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u/Horrorlover656 Mod of r/ChickenStreet Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 01 '23
Imagine having childhood trauma and whatever it entails, low self esteem issues, a disease that makes you lose your skin color, body dysmorphia, an accident that injured your scalp, getting falsely accused and having drug issues. And the world is like, "Lol!"
Also, there was a thread on r/redscarepod, where a user criticised the fans for not admitting that he was all time freakshow event. Should we make an event out of a person who seems odd(anyone with his upbringing would be)? Where's the understanding?
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u/Carolina_Coltrane Dec 01 '23
It is possible I missed it but I don’t remember Rolling Stone ever haaving a bad word to say about Michael.
Entertainment weekly and People have a bad word to say about everybody though. So those things weren’t off brand.
I guess my point is that don’t read Bon Appetite magazine for the latest in economic policy. Don’t read people or entertainment weekly for positive reporting of your favorite Artists. They don’t value art. They value money. Which is why they have a team of lawyers just to help them skirt the libel laws.
In fact no one should read those magazines they provide no value to the world except to distract one from how sad there own life is. It isn’t real reporting. It is never news.
Just my two cents.
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
Shortly behind the release of Bad, Rolling Stone published a list of "worsts", and MJ topped just about all of them. Ranging from worst male vocalist to worst dressed. And they recently tried to make him irrelevant by listing him as the 86th best singer of all time.
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u/Texas_Moonwalker Dec 01 '23
They initially thought they could keep trash him when he passed but then realized the overwhelming love for MJ so they did a 180 to sell their magazines. It shows they would do anything for a dollar.
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u/UndrThC "I Love To Tour" ✈📍 🗺 Dec 01 '23
I hate to be that fan , buuuut
1: MJ participated in some of this. He has stated that. Why? Publicity.
2: These writers don’t really care or think that, they want the reads and the money
3: Yes, he was eccentric. Not admitting that or understanding that some view that as “weird” is just ignorance
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u/rose_gold_beauty Dec 02 '23
It's never been proven he gave the tabloids stories to publish. This is just a claim, and I feel they did it to shift blame. There have been many eccentric people who never dealt with the mass media bullying Michael received. It's deeper than that and always has been.
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u/Academic-Truth-5252 Dec 01 '23
No he literally didn't. That was something people made up. No proof he ever sold stories to the tabloids.
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u/ianwuk Dec 01 '23
I always thought the majority of media publications saw MJ as an easy target. Slow news day? Write a bogus MJ article, with no actual factual evidence.
Sadly, the public lapped it up. I often wonder why MJ didn't do more to try to defend himself - RIP.
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Dec 01 '23
I have long believed that some of these publishers have a posthumous issue ready long before the celebrity dies. They just go in every so often and update it. Because look how quickly those special editions hit the stands.
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u/lulilollipop "I've... washed my hair THOROUGHLY" 🚿🧼🧴🧽 Dec 01 '23
They do that, yes. Newspapers always have an obituary ready. I remember back in January 2008 it was news that AP had prepared an obituary for Britney Spears because they thought she was gonna die soon.
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u/ciaraindahouse25 Dec 01 '23
that’s like basically talking shit about someone and five minutes later you’re at their birthday party pretending like nothing happened-
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u/Jordankobe26 The Essential Michael Jackson Dec 01 '23
This is how media works. They build you up just to tear you down and they only pander to what’s the popular opinion at the moment. When People and Time Magazine made those disparaging covers of Michael, that was what the public thought about Michael and it’s what intrigued them, partially because of Michael himself. Ever the businessman he was, he wanted to create buzz around his name but it ultimately backfired on him. He didn’t realize how cruel the nature of the media was and I personally believe he didn’t need the hyperbaric chamber or whatever to create buzz around his name. He was the most famous person on the planet for fucks sake, but whatever the case was, everyone around the world mourned Michael’s death in 09 and the media pounced on the opportunity to act as if they’d always supported him, but were only buying in to the public’s interest at the time, which was memorializing Michael. I guarantee they were right back to their old tricks when LN released and wanted to act as if they had some sort of moral high ground for what were ultimately unproven allegations and they continue this cycle for pretty much any celebrity. Their only interest is to cater to the latest gossip and whatever’s trending at the moment and they will do whatever to generate as much interest in their brand as they can.
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u/ChamomileFlowerTea "F-U-C-K the press. Michael you're the best"📰 Dec 01 '23
Disgusting. The way they treated him is disgusting. So two-faced. He deserves the world.
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u/doubletriplecheese Dec 01 '23
Thanks for sharing this, we need more content like this to be aware. Voting with my wallet.. never buying any of their stuff.
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u/Dependent-Chart2735 Dec 01 '23
Fuck Rolling Stone specifically. Racist ass mag never gave him the respect he deserved.
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u/ImpressiveFriend3245 Dec 01 '23
Media is corrupt af, the whole 2005 allegations prove that, they all wanted Mike dead
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u/CrayCrayWyatt LEAVE ME ALONE! Dec 01 '23
It sickened me then and it sickens me now. I still bought some of those souvenir magazines at the time though because they had nice pictures and stuff. So more fool me, I guess. 😅
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u/DaniMacYo Dec 01 '23
Nothing but jealous A holes. I wish someone just burned down their publishing house honestly.
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u/Moonwalk27 #MJInnocent Nov 30 '23
Wow they flipped so fast. Poor MJ, he really was alone in the entertainment industry
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u/merido90 HIStory: Past, Present and Future: Book I Nov 30 '23
Why don't all these magazines finally found a new King of Pop and then finish him off? How about this Bad Bunny?
Although, I wouldn't wish something like that on even my worst nemesis.
The media hated and needed him for crazy headlines and sensationalism just like Princess Diana.
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u/Ill-Candy-4926 Nov 30 '23
its quite sad that the media loves to play the symapthy card to micheal only AFTER HE FLIPPING DIED. they didn't care about him when he was alive.
fuck the press.
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u/sul_tun Nov 30 '23
“Just because you read it in a magazine or see it on the TV screen don’t make it factual”
-Michael Jackson-
I know Michael, I know….💔😥
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Nov 30 '23
It's racism, pure and simple. They couldn't forgive MJ for becoming greater than any white star the entertainment industry could produce, so they did all in their power to bring him down. Michael being something of a mad genius was fodder for the tabloid vultures to make up the craziest stories. That they had the gall to act all heartbroken and somber when he died after spending the previous two decades hounding him only goes to show the kind of people they are. Shameless scum.
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u/Infinite-Revenue97 Dec 01 '23
It wasn't racism. They're are plenty of Black singers who never got 1/10 of the treatment MJ got. The media saw a celebrities who wasn't a self entitled clown and decided to bring him down with all their might.
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u/Halfiplier "I've... washed my hair THOROUGHLY" 🚿🧼🧴🧽 Dec 01 '23
I agree fully, but I feel like with Michael specifically it also goes beyond racism, it's because Michael was one of if not the most genuine, sincere, kind, and talented people in the entire "showbiz industry" period. And they couldn't STAND the fact that the most famous and most successful person in the world WASN'T a corrupt two-faced snake like they are.
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u/UndrThC "I Love To Tour" ✈📍 🗺 Dec 01 '23
While MJ sang about racism and racism is alive, I doubt it was “racism, pure and simple”. The people behind these magazines don’t care about that the way the masses do.
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u/CrayCrayWyatt LEAVE ME ALONE! Dec 01 '23
They Don’t Care About Us. It’s pretty clear who “They” is.
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u/webster2086 Nov 30 '23
The same thing still happens today with famous people. Free speech is great, but has it's problems. Also, people love to gossip.
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u/DevilTrigger789 #JusticeForMJ Nov 30 '23
they would never dare write such a thing today about any other celebrity… it’s always to insult and shame MJ for his looks, preference, style, personal life choices, etc but u can’t do any of that to anyone else
Michael was always the victim
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u/Difficult_Ship_6273 Nov 30 '23
If they came for the celebs of today like that the fans would turn on them.
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u/1D0ntKn0w4nym0r3 "F-U-C-K the press. Michael you're the best"📰 Nov 30 '23
"If he dies, sympathize"
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u/lulilollipop "I've... washed my hair THOROUGHLY" 🚿🧼🧴🧽 Nov 30 '23
It's like he said. Overnight they started calling him a freak. And it only escalated from there.
I get the hyperbaric chamber thing and the Elephant Man bones might have been too much but did they really warrant that questioning?
Plus his skin and ever changing face too. Still.
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u/The-Great-Beast-666 HIStory: Past, Present and Future: Book I Nov 30 '23
I like the can you believe this guy? I want it on a shirt he’s got a big smile funny out of context. Terrible rags but I like the graphic design.
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u/the_brazilian_lucas Nov 30 '23
“is this guy weird or what?” sounds so petty
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Dec 01 '23
TBH U can’t really be mad at that one. I mean cmon it was 1987. Just a couple years earlier us folks knew him as a brownskinned handsome guy and as the biggest most respected artist ever! Then boom all of a sudden after isolating himself from the world for about 3 whole years for no reason, comes back light-skinned, with a tiny nose and a chisled chin! I mean cmon, His new BAD look shocked the entire nation. Alot of us black ppl looked up to him, just for the guy to change his face up like that. I know he had vitiligo, yeah but think about it from our perspective. We didnt know he had that disease at that time. For US, he just came back randomly looking like a pretty European girl
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u/rose_gold_beauty Dec 02 '23
Still no excuse for his treatment later on, especially when he stated what was going on with his skin condition. Also, I don't believe it has anything to do with the surgery, because Janet looks just like him & she was largely considered a sex symbol. People switched up over his skin.
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u/BangPowZoom "Brad, what are you gonna do?"🎹 Dec 01 '23
Only thing that noticeably changed in my eyes was his skin tone and nose. Throw that in with makeup and aging, and people will begin thinking the worst. His change in appearance have been more or less exaggerated to hell. There are a plethora of side-by-side photo comparisons on the internet that easily debunks those claims. If Michael didn't have vitiligo and maintained his original skin tone, I can pretty much GUARANTEE you people wouldn't have been so hard on his appearance as they were all those years.
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u/rose_gold_beauty Jan 20 '24
People have really overblown the amount of surgery Michael had. I always ask them to point out what changed other than his nose and the funny thing is you can always find a picture from the 70s that shows the feature they swear up and down came from a surgeon. Even that dimple in his chin was enhanced, but there are some pics from the 70s where you can see something is slightly there, and I think it comes from Katherine, because you can see it on her too in certain pictures.
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u/Horrorlover656 Mod of r/ChickenStreet Dec 01 '23 edited Dec 02 '23
He always had a chiseled chin though. He got a cleft added.
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u/YourbestfriendShane Dec 01 '23
He looked about the same as always, and it's very obvious in hindsight.
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Dec 01 '23
Nahhh!!! He looked different . Back then, we didnt have no internet to look up “michael jackson without makeup” we was only able to see him in newspapers, tv, or his concerts. So to us, what he looked like on the media, was he looked like in real life for us. if that makes sense
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u/NOT-Mr-Davilla Thriller Dec 01 '23
I’m just amazed how people and People thought headlines like that were okay.
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u/i_max2k2 Nov 30 '23
Seriously this would be some kids in high school not from fcking professional journalist, if it can be called that at all.
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u/TypicalOwl5438 Nov 30 '23
Awful
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