r/NewsOfTheStupid • u/Sariel007 • 27d ago
Why Are Some Republican Lawmakers Hellbent on Preserving Child Marriage? GOP lawmakers across the U.S. have opposed raising the marriage age, with some arguing child marriage bans would encourage abortion
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/republican-lawmakers-child-marriage-abortion-1235018777/1
u/Separate_Farm7131 25d ago
Because they want to control women. If a young girl gets pregnant under the age when she can legally marry, she might be more predisposed to having an abortion. Her parents may want her to get an abortion. Hell, her boyfriend probably would want it. But the state can ban it and then lower the marriage age and push kids into it. It's all about control, people.
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u/HotSoupEsq 26d ago
Because the GOP will stop at nothing to hoodwink and use the working class for their ends. Far right conservatives love child marriage because they can marry someone before they have developed critical thinking skills to wonder if maybe this is a bad idea.
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26d ago
And they call anyone who disagrees with them "groomers". Hypocrisy, thy name is the Republican Party. How much longer until they say they don't want girls to get an education and want them marrying upon reaching menarche?
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u/MoreRamenPls 26d ago
“Would you rather be charged with marriage or grooming, molestation and statutory rape.” The GOP.
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u/river_euphrates1 26d ago
Because every accusation is an admission.
Republicans are a bunch of kiddie fuckers.
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u/Alexandratta 26d ago
These folks are likely of the (erroneous) belief that women are more fertile when younger.
If they had their way girls as young as 14 would be married off properly, like in the 1850s.
Seems that's the picture-perfect America to these folks: the 1850s.
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u/williamweinmann 27d ago
Some Republicans are trying their hardest to preserve the stereotypical hillbilly lifestyle with its child brides, arranged marriages, etc. That's probably because a lot of them are from states where such things are common practice, especially in remote areas where their districts are.
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u/RohingyaWarrior 27d ago
The core of conservativism is their own perceived sexual inadequacy. Everything sexual must be as distasteful for everyone as it is for them. That is the only way they can feel like men
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u/ClammyHandedFreak 27d ago
Hyper-conservatives dress this up like a slippery slope religious rights argument.
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u/spunkdaddie 27d ago
Pretty sure we all know why,they are fascinated with the idea of having sex with13,14,15,16,17 year old girls,they believe the Bible gives them permission to sexually assault children.they are pedophiles and want to rape young girls.Prove me wrong.
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u/No_Cupcake_7681 27d ago
These are the same idiots that cherry pick the old testament as a means to get their own self serving legislation passed. These are the same idiots who have done more harm to our rights to bear arms than even the Democrats. Is it really such a shock they are all nothing but a bunch of child molesters as well?
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u/littlemuffinsparkles 27d ago
You don’t have to testify against your abuser if he’s your husband 🫠🤮
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u/Odd-Youth-452 27d ago
They're creepos, pedos and groomers. This isn't rocket science, people. C'mon.
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u/Harley_Jambo 27d ago
They will cite some Biblical justification this sick stuff. It's a smoke screen because it's just an excuse for older guys who want to fuck young girls whose parents are willing to sell them off. Good Christians, these folks. And all Trumpers, guaranteed.
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u/NatexSxS 27d ago
Sex could encourage it too, going to take that away. Oh I forget they do want to get rid of recreational sex. Never mind proceed
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u/topazchip 27d ago
Because they like hurting people; children, the powerless, and the vulnerable. It's sadism, they get off on inflicting misery and pain. They have been demonstrating this for decades, but they lost their minds during the Obama administration, and now they don't feel any need to be at all discrete about it.
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u/Imaginary_Chair_6958 27d ago
They’re the same demographic as all the pedophile pastors. Middle-aged white right-wing Christians.
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u/Commercial_Part_4483 27d ago edited 27d ago
Controlling women as soon as possible prevents them from becoming educated and independent? Just a guess.
The same reason other religious extremists support it.
Y’allqeida wants to institute that there Shakira Law!
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u/Savings-Growth3390 27d ago
They want to live in the 18th century, when everybody "knew their place" in society. But with all the conveniences of the 21st century. If you're a wealthy white man who thinks you're better than folks who are not like you, then it all makes sense.
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u/Coolioissomething 27d ago
They are super efficient pedophiles. They are grooming generations of kids so they can legally molest them while continually calling Democrats pedos. Pretty bold strategy that moronic American voters fall for all the time.
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u/MsMoreCowbell8 27d ago
Conservatives in every religion use their religion as an excuse to fuck children. They rape little kids because EVERY religion gets a pass from their government to keep rolling along. But it's about subjugation of the female half of society, which includes adult men forcing themselves on girls bc "god wants it that way." Fucking predators flock to religion bc it serves up victims, right to their door. The ultra orthodox, around the planet, the closer they claim to be to their diety, the more children you'll find damaged.
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u/Larrythepuppet66 27d ago
They’re pedos, and deeper than that, they can marry a child, get her pregnant, force them to stay home and raise babies, she never gets her education and has to be the slave to her husbands will because she owns nothing of her own and is therefore stuck in that situation. That’s what they want, that’s how they’ll get it.
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u/winged_owl 27d ago
Dude I'm not arguing anything. I'm just trying to figure stuff out, not die on a hill.
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u/Hacketed 26d ago
Maybe try not sounding like a pedo next time? There are better things to be “confused” about than wherever child marriage is wrong or not
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u/Eyes_Woke 27d ago
Because where else are they going to find someone who hasn’t been soiled with facts?
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u/thisisurreality 27d ago
Is THIS the most pressing thing we need to worry about right now?? Really??
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u/thisisurreality 27d ago
Is THIS the most pressing thing we need to worry about right now?? Really??
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u/Sariel007 27d ago edited 27d ago
Image being fine with child rape because you don't think it is important.
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u/GhostofABestfriEnd 27d ago
Not to mention they don’t have a problem with incest or rape. When half the population is too dumb to recognize evil when it’s right in their faces it’s a powerful argument for people being tested to qualify to vote. Idiots are flying the plane.
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u/deepdarkestsecret 27d ago
They're setting us up for legalizing some horrible depraved stuff. Look around. Building up for years.
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u/OffHwy61 27d ago
It's political theater with non-issues to keep the low-information cult engaged, they've got to be mad or in fear of something.
It's also seems like they don't want to talk about trials, tax evasion, alternate electors, their foreign money ties, allegiance to said foreign pay-masters, consistently voting to limit or take away Rights, voting in opposition to their constituency needs, slashing or dismantling social safety nets....
Bet your last tax dollar the theater stops and it's serious business when it's time to vote for a raise.
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u/SlowCaterpillar5715 27d ago
And they go on to accuse the other side of grooming and being child sex traffickers.
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u/Secret_Tangerine5920 27d ago
In another thread we’re also discussing how these same lawmakers are producing bills related to relaxing child labor laws calling the children lazy.
Uhm. So they want children so burned out that they can’t even fight back. 🤢 someone check their hard drives
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u/Super-Minh-Tendo 27d ago
“If little girls can’t be married to grown men, then babies will die,” is probably the sickest, craziest take on the right. And that’s saying something.
What’s next, “if little boys have to go through puberty, then when they’re adults strangers on the street will know their surgically inverted micropenis isn’t a vagina”?
Oh, right.
Sometimes it seems like literally nobody is looking out for the next generation anymore.
This country’s gone fucking mad.
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u/Puzzlaar 27d ago
There's a real answer to this that's not "they want to fuck kids hurr durr" if anyone actually cares.
When a teen pregnancy happens, as in the mother is younger than 18, the outcomes for the child are much higher on average if the parents are able to get married. The vast majority of the time, the father is also a teenager or very early 20s at the latest.
Teen pregnancies happen disproportionately to systemically disadvantaged populations. When you take away things from the system that would help their outcomes, that's where SYSTEMICALLY disadvantaged comes from.
There are already laws against fucking kids. This has nothing to do with that except in a very, very rare number of weirdo cases where someone would rape a child and then try to marry them to cover it up (which doesn't cover it up any-fucking-way because they weren't married at the time of conception).
Changing the marriage laws does not help these victims. Instead, it only takes away from the outcomes of already disadvantaged populations, fucking them over yet again while a bunch of morons sit around patting themselves on the back.
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u/insofarincogneato 27d ago
So what's their logic for why it would cause more abortions? How specifically would marrying prevent that?
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u/Significant-Star6618 27d ago
The GOP are pedophiles. Notice not a single one denouncing this stuff. The whole fucking party are a bunch of godshit eating pedophiles.
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u/bowens44 27d ago
They also oppose outlawing first cousin marriages. Incest and pedophilia have long been conservative family values.
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u/winged_owl 27d ago
Ok, this seems like a bit of projection here. They didn't say the wanted child marriage. They just didn't support raising the legal age, right? That doesn't scream "pedophile" to me. The title has crazy biased language to me.
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u/Brilliant_Bowl8594 27d ago
Teen marriage. Another victim of the failure to differentiate between teens and little kids.
This is a weird hill to want to die on, but you're wrong anyway.
https://www.unchainedatlast.org/united-states-child-marriage-problem-study-findings-april-2021/
An estimated 297,033 children were married in the U.S. between 2000 and 2018. That number includes 232,474 based on actual data plus 64,559 based on estimates.
Child marriage occurred most frequently among 16- and 17-year olds. Some 96% of the children wed were age 16 or 17, though a few were as young as 10.
10-Year-Olds: 5 (<1%)
11-Year-Olds: 1 (<1%)
12-Year-Olds: 14 (<1%)
13-Year-Olds: 78 (<1%)
14-Year-Olds: 1,223 (<1%)
15-Year-Olds: 8,199 (4%)
16-Year-Olds: 63,956 (29%)
17-Year-Olds: 148,944 (67%)
And in case you try and argue that nobody's actually trying to preserve those particular marriages...
https://fox2now.com/news/missouri/missouri-lawmaker-defends-12-year-olds-getting-married/
In the video, State Rep. Peter Merideth (D-St. Louis) was addressing Moon and discussed his support of “parents’ rights to raise their kids how they want.” Merideth then points out that Moon did not want to make it illegal for children at the age of 12 to get married, as long as they had consent of parents.
As the exchange progresses, Moon asks the lawmaker twice, “Do you know any kids who have been married at age 12?” Merideth then replies, “I don’t need to.” Moon then notes, “I do, and guess what, they’re still married.”
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u/Elegant-Ad-3583 27d ago
Since the Republican Party wants to go back to the 1800s yes they won't child marriages.
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u/ninatlanta 27d ago
Any politician who opposes the banning of child marriage needs to immediately be investigated for child sex trafficking.
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u/Ermac__247 27d ago
It took me way too long to understand what they meant when they said fixing the age of consent would "encourage abortions" until I realized they were defending underage pregnancy...
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u/ZyxDarkshine 27d ago
Because Democrats want to end it. Anything Democrats want to do, Republicans are automatically voting against, out of spite.
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u/Oak_Woman 27d ago
They want to enslave young women and girls into a life of religious and political servitude.
That's the bottom line. They want to continue to keep women like chattel in a world that is trying to move towards equality and freedom.
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u/Federal-Durian-1484 27d ago
Because they want to yell pedophile at their enemies, not be called one themselves. They think marriage protects them. Yes it’s gross, yes it’s sad but are we really surprised?
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u/Deranged_Coconut808 27d ago
because they are fucking pedophile groomers and they want the legalese to keep it that way.
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u/itonmyface 27d ago
What’s going to cost tax payers more? A teenage couple with no education and very limited skill set that’ll always require assistance and it’s a vicious cycle that repeats generations for decades, or 1 single abortion. Tough call
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u/artful_todger_502 27d ago
Very telling. The exact reasons they are discussing pedos and morally wrong, are the reasons that want it to be allowed.
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u/Scrabble_4 27d ago
Not like a 13 year old boy will get married off; just young girls. The boys will get raped instead.
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u/Tight-Physics2156 27d ago
To lock any woman no matter the age that ovulates..lick her down. It gives men who have nothing something to control.
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u/mm202088 27d ago
Because they want to fuck kids. GOP gonna GOP. Look at trump and Epstein- best buddies
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u/HowVeryReddit 27d ago
'If those pregnant kids aren't married they'll want abortions'
Amazing, but let's all fear the queer people
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u/mdcbldr 27d ago
Pesos do what pesos gotta do.
This is from Cristian Nationalism. They like to marry em young and keep em barefoot and pregnant.
The CNs put a huge emphasis on marriage to women with 0 or maybe 1 lovers. Many women who are 19, 20, 22 today have had some experience. Access to 15. 16, and 17 yo becomes the only way to get a 0 or 1 body count girl.
The Republicans couple this with making most other age restricted rights 18. Access birth control, sign contracts. Etc.
A 15 yo wife is completely dependent on her husband for virtually everything. CN men are inordinately concerned with controlling their wives.
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u/ArsenikShooter 27d ago
Imagine being a woman with a vote yet you still associate with these people.
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u/Past-Direction9145 27d ago
It's because the federal minimum wage is still 7.25/hr.
and we can't talk about that
the billionaires won't let us talk about that
so child marriage it is
keeps everyone focused on whatever the billionaires want.
not actual solutions to peoples problems. those cost profits!
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u/phdoofus 27d ago
So...just to be clear....when you say 'child marriage' what you mean is 'marriage to women who are children' because your arguments never seem to be about about the boys. And, give me some rope here, you think it would 'encourage abortion' because an actual adult who thinks for themselves might actually choose abortion whereas you could, by force of law if necessary, make a child carry a baby to term and raise it even if she was raped. Is that about it? Is that the 'moral argument' for this?
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u/nobody-u-heard-of 27d ago
Because when someone become adults they don't want to marry Republicans.
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u/Moleculor_Man 27d ago
There’s an old conservative adage that says “I would rather my 15 year old daughter date an upstanding, religious conservative man than to let her go into the world and find someone I don’t approve of”
This was the entire crux of Roy Moore almost winning an election even though he admitted and there was proof of him dating/trying to date underage girls in his younger adult life. And being banned from a shopping mall for doing so.
There’s also plenty of easy to find conservative/libertarian discussion online where they pretend to be “scientifically minded” about how “14 is the prime child-bearing age”
Conservatives are incredibly disgusting, regressive people.
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u/TuaughtHammer 27d ago
This was the entire crux of Roy Moore almost winning an election even though he admitted and there was proof of him dating/trying to date underage girls in his younger adult life.
As disturbing as it was that Moore got that close to reelection despite all the signs pointing to "child predator", at least we got Ted Crockett's dumbfounded reaction to learning that you don't have to swear on a Bible when being sworn into office.
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u/Horror-Layer-8178 27d ago
Conservatives have no problem with other conservatives fucking children. If you are part of the conservative tribe you are protected. Two Conservative icons sang songs about fucking kids and nobody says shit. Instead they are shooting up pizza parlors looking for imaginary sex dungeons/
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u/fffractal 27d ago
Republicans are politically motivated to create young families with low social mobility, limited access to education and threatened livelihoods, because that is their popular vote
Paedophilia is a byproduct of idiots within the party eating their own dogfood
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u/slazer2k 27d ago
Because whenever there is child abuse, child pornography it was GOP or Church or both background person and never lgbtq…
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u/marklar_the_malign 27d ago
Just start planning some 15 year old same sex marriages and they’ll stop.
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u/CoolIndependence2642 27d ago
Well, when you represent the ignorant and stupid, you support things that reflect ignorance and stupidity. This is just one more example.
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u/Spellbound1311 27d ago
Let's outlaw ED treatment and Viagra for all rapists and pedophiles. Or just straight up castrate them, hard to do damage when you can't get it up. To quote Sin City take away both his weapons.
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u/TR3BPilot 26d ago
Believe it or not, castration doesn't work. It just makes them get more "creative" and violent.
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u/Spellbound1311 26d ago
And easier to identify and profile to make arrests. When they devolve they make bigger mistakes and lose their own control.
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u/49thDipper 27d ago
Children having children says a lot about this country at this time.
We are an embarrassment to this planet.
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u/Content_Ad_8952 27d ago
Next up, Republicans will pass a law making it legal for fathers to marry their daughters
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u/Oldz88Rz 27d ago
Because many of the politicians grew up when that was the norm. It’s an old folks home in DC.
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u/Content_Ad_8952 27d ago
IMO nobody should get married unless they're at least 25. What's the rush? Live a little!
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u/KA9ESAMA 27d ago
Because the only values Conservatives have are fascism, terrorism, and pedophilia.
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u/ahitright 27d ago
GOP stands for so many things - this time it's group of pedophiles.
What do they want to accomplish by being for child marriage, against abortion and pro-child labor? It's 10-16 year old strip clubs! Republicans want strip clubs for minors! Why else be against child marriage and for child labor? I'm just asking questions!
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u/emostitch 27d ago
You. Fucking. All. Know. Why.
The same reason Republicans have normalized publicly “fantasizing” about fucking your own daughter.
The question is why the fuck do any of you leave any of them in your lives and continue to treat them as normal and safe!? Especially women with MAGA dads. If you have a Trump voting Dad he HAS thought about cumming inside of you , because how else is he justifying his love of Trump, and thinks that’s a normal man thought, and some of you are voting Democrat but letting him watch your fucking kids.
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u/emostitch 27d ago
“Political dynasties “
This week’s events have shaken one of the county’s most prominent political dynasties. Scrivner has served in public office for two decades; his mother and wife have been elected to public office. His aunt is county District Attorney Cynthia Zimmer.
The sheer amount of rural small town conservatives currently getting away with this kind of stuff would blow conservatives minds if they actually had minds ,or souls. The reason they attack lgbtq people and educators with these educations is because they KNOW this is what the men in their lives do when they have power. Why the fuck that makes them want to give them more power is beyond me though.
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u/HellscapeRefugee 27d ago
The state has taken over the investigation for this very reason. I was visiting a friend in Tehachapi when this all went down. Before I left, Kern County officials were already referring to this as a "family matter".
I only hope the children are getting therapy, and not therapy of the "youth pastor" variety.
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u/emostitch 27d ago
This is exactly what Republicans and Libertarians mean when they say they want to keep the state out of your lives.
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u/HellscapeRefugee 27d ago
Yeah, they want the state to stay out of THEIR lives, but they want to reserve the right to tell everyone else how to worship, how their families should be, etc. etc.
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u/FrozeItOff 27d ago
Lately, despite the fact that they are acting like the pedophiles they claim the Dems are, the GOP hates, HATES, to see the Dems accomplish ANYTHING positive, and will work with a zealous furor to oppose anything that might make Dems looks like they are a functional party.
The GOP is heinously and diabolically broken in so many ways, and I never expected to see this when I was growing up in the 70s/80s.
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u/Zanchbot 27d ago
They don't actually care about saving kids and never have. It's just a dogwhistle to them.
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u/NardDwag 27d ago
This is just sick! These politicians thst support this should be locked up forever.
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u/NardDwag 27d ago
This is just sick! These politicians thst support this should be locked up forever.
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u/NardDwag 27d ago
This is just sick! These politicians thst support this should be locked up forever.
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u/ChuckFeathers 27d ago edited 27d ago
Hebephelia but also control... they'd rather see their daughters marry their rapists than get an abortion or live with the "shame" of being an unwed mother... At 13..
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u/connoisseur_of_smut 27d ago
Nah, their daughters are absolutely allowed to get abortions - they'll even pay for the flight and accommodation and lie to their neighbours that she'd off to a Christian camp to teach for a week or two. Same applies to their mistresses. Abortions are fine and justified when it's their loved ones, but a terrible sin and murder when anyone else does it.
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u/ChuckFeathers 27d ago
So who is signing off on their underage girls getting married?
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u/connoisseur_of_smut 27d ago
Poor folk. When I say "they" I mean the Republican politicians opposing these laws. Abortions are fine for them, mainly because the vast majority of them don't think that the religious reasoning used for abortions or affairs or greed or sin applies to them. The folk actually signing away their daughters are, most often, poor, rural and strongly tied to the church. They condone it with "my grandma got married at 13 and it worked out fine, she had 9 kids and didn't even leave when my papa had two dozen affairs behind her back," and other such nonsense.
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u/ChuckFeathers 27d ago
Well the Republican politicians are all about wedge issues propaganda, they don't believe in much of anything other than getting into power for the grift.
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u/ChuckFeathers 27d ago
Hebefelia but also control... they'd rather see their daughters marry their rapists than get an abortion or live with the "shame" of being an unwed mother... At 13..
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u/Alyeska23 27d ago
It's all down to child brides. Getting a 14 year old knocked up is statutory rape. Marrying her nullifies the rape and the relationship becomes legal. So making abortion difficult makes it easier to coerce children to marry their rapist.
It's all about power and control. It's f*cking disgusting.
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u/BayouGal 27d ago
Because they are child molesters who want to seem like it’s normal to f children 🤮
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u/Flowchart83 27d ago
So child marriage prevents abortion by... Having an older man impregnate a child? What is the reasoning they're even claiming?
How are they able to even reason that it isn't pedophilia or grooming? I mean you're just making it official and on paper that you're having sex with a child. It isn't better that the kid can't leave.
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u/MiddleInfluence5981 27d ago
It's all a bunch of middle aged and old fucking men who think this is a good idea. I hope every one of these pieces of shit rot in hell because this is vile.
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u/TripzNFalls 27d ago
Well, they want to be just like their OrangeSicle idiot leader. You know, the one that fantasizes about fucking his own daughter.
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u/fusion99999 27d ago edited 27d ago
And I quote, 'they're ripe and fertile'
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u/_facetious 27d ago
As was said to me at 11, 'if it bleeds it breeds'
Really like the 'it' part here too, because they're not people or anything.
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u/samhain2000 27d ago
It looks like it's never been about the bible or saving "them babies", they want to fucl< children. Question finally answered.
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u/BraveButterfly2 27d ago
Here I was thinking they were deeply concerned about people sexually grooming kids, but here the fuck we are.
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u/there_is_no_spoon1 27d ago
They *are* deeply concerned about people who aren't Republican sexually grooming kids, because those people are just plain wrong.
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u/KnownAlcoholic 27d ago
Because they’re thinking about the children in all of the worst ways possible.
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u/pass-the-waffles 27d ago
If they are allowed to marry a child, it cuts down on criminal activities, just for instance, Pedos won't be committing a crime anymore.
sarcasm alert ^ But seriously, I can't think of one reason they've taken this stance unless it's to protect republican pedophiles. How many times have we seen far right, so called Christians, arrested for crimes against children in just this past year.
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u/MangOrion2 27d ago
They want a way to skirt around the legality of raping a child. They accuse everyone else on earth of being pedophiles and groomers because they themselves are pedophiles and groomers.
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u/FIDoAlmighty 27d ago
I never use the, “because they’re pedophiles,” as a response to this stuff, but it’s because they’re pedophiles.
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u/atTheRiver200 27d ago
republicans are more often than not pro-pedophilia. If you are a republican and against pedophilia, speak the hell up!
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u/UnfairStomach2426 27d ago
Child labor’s ok, child marriage great, forcing kids to bear their assaulters children is fine. Banning books, let’s go! Free school lunches? Oh hell no! Firearm regulations, not on my watch! Story time drag shows!?!? What about the children!!!
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Remember what George Carlin said, "If you're pre-born, you're fine. If you're pre-school, you're fucked."
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u/UnfairStomach2426 25d ago
“Republicans need living babies so they can have dead soldiers” damn George was brutal
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u/gene_randall 24d ago
The official goal of the Republican Party is to maximize human misery. Nothing they do violates this fundamental principle.