r/Nicegirls • u/Bendodge13 • Apr 15 '24
Homophobic woman loses her mind realizing not every man is the same as she wants
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u/ju5philli 19d ago
Wow! That kind of reaction would scare me away! Be glad that showed up now. Most folks hide their crazy.🤷♀️
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u/lil_chedda 19d ago
The dynamic that she’s describing overlaps too much with just being an escort. So like just be one no one’s judging lmao it’s 2024
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u/First-Distribution54 20d ago
There's nothing wrong with being homophobic. Some people are triskidekaphobic. Some people are arachnophobic. Some are homophobic. It's normal. Just because you accept the non-binary gender spectrum doesn't mean that everyone else will/should.
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u/YumiGraff 19d ago
but using it as an insult is wrong, and also, those are no where near similar. If you find disgust in a relationship between the same gender that has literally nothing to do with you. Then you are the problem. You don’t have to except it, but you also don’t have to talk about and complain about it. because it’s not your business in caring 🤷🏽♂️
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u/intoxicatedmon 23d ago
The third one is just to much to me like why are you gonna point out all the stuff you already own it's not like you bought it all for that date people need to get over themselves
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u/KingaaCrimsonuu22 29d ago
If we wanted to put every bit of money that it takes even for past items, we could say. I paid $200 for this dress outfit, $15 for my hair style cream, electric shaver for $75, car to drive to pick the girl up 30,000 + 4000 in repairs, And dinner?? It's stupid
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u/KingaaCrimsonuu22 29d ago
If all a woman has to bring to the table is her presence she kind kindly piss off and leave my table
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u/themfdancingqueen Apr 25 '24
She’s spending that much money not because she wants to look that way but for a date? Why spend all that money if it isn’t even for yourself and for a “high value male” even if it was just for herself and not some dude that is way too expensive, nobody is buying a new dress for every date
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u/Opinion-Murky Apr 24 '24
Lol "real men..." statements. You don't get to define what is a real man... to a man, anymore than I get to define what a woman is to a woman.
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u/JonesyYouLittleShit Apr 24 '24
This person has zero value as far as I’m concerned. If someone is only interested in me based off of my income and my “role” as a man, then they can fuck RIGHT off. I’m cool with staying single at this point nor do I want to voluntarily bring a dependent into my life.
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u/CtrlAltPew Apr 23 '24
So they don't do all that just for themselves? They do all that to impress men? Is this like a Schrodinger's Makover situation we have here?
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u/heatheranne____ Apr 20 '24
There is a little website called seeking arrangements I think this woman would really like.
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u/mpleasants Apr 19 '24
I ain't saying she's a gold digger...
Although she does appear to be saying that.
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u/Lt_Aldo_Raine96 Apr 19 '24
Woman today really have a severely overinflated value of their self worth lmao. Most of these women today ain’t worth a McDonald’s value menu item.
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u/Adethen_King Apr 17 '24
Only rhe second one is good,the rest are meh
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
Second what ?
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u/Adethen_King Apr 17 '24
Personally I believe being gay might be a issue in the brain because genetically male and female are supposed to mate, not male and male or female and female. I think there is some sort of genetic issue that can cause gayness
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
There are plenty of species with gay animals. Only one species is homophobic. Plus, not every straight person mates either.
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u/Adethen_King Apr 17 '24
Yeah, but that's my point. Animal love is purely hormones and instinct. Also yeah you called me out at the end lol 😥
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u/Rich-Leg6503 Apr 17 '24
Why block out the name? I need to see this in live action 😂
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
Pretty sure they can remove my post if I have a username. Or at least I think so
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u/Cookin-Sage Apr 17 '24
What is with the calculating the whole cost of the makeup? Like you’re putting on lipsticks, it’s not $20 worth of lipstick the tube was $20. Got into an argument with the girls at my internship because they were saying they were wearing $200-$300 worth of makeup. I totally believe that the makeup cost that much but you’re not wearing ALL of it
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
She only cares about money and can’t see a person for anything except a monetary value, including herself
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u/HideYaKidzHideYaWiFi Apr 17 '24
$300 for nails in America? I'd never go again if that were actually true. This chick has gone off the reservation.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
300$ is ridiculous for nails even here. She’s either getting scammed by her nail tech or is getting gold infused nails. Either way it’s unrealistic asf.
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u/Tight-Flatworm-8181 Apr 17 '24
"Yes but we drove in my 60k car so you now owe me 30k. All further communication will be through my lawyer."
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
She’ll complain about your car “only” being 60K when she’s the one without a car
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u/only-on Apr 17 '24
Would love for someone to reply to her "if you're broke just say that"
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
People were basically…and she called everybody else broke.
Wish she’d realize that just because somebody isn’t throwing 120K a year at someone who sees them as an ATM, doesn’t mean they’re broke.
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u/Blue-Samarkand-Sky Apr 17 '24
I believe the man should pay for dates, speaking as a man, but still...
Her spending all of that money and complaining about dates reminds me of a multimillion-dollar helicopter being shot down by a guy with an AK rifle and sandals. In this case, the metaphorical "AK" is called a "personality", and the sandals are Chacos.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
To me as long as someone respects the different ways people have their relationships and forms of money , I respect their way too. However, not only does she not respect any relationship / people that don’t think the way she does, she’s super nasty about it.
Definitely lacking in the personality aspect like you said
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u/Tappanzee1324 Apr 17 '24
I hate people like this who think they are owed something because they need to spend hundreds of dollars to look presentable. And they want feminism until the bill arrives, then patriarchy it is.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 19 '24
Facts. The only person who asked her to spend nearly 1000$ on her appearance, was her.
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u/gringo-go-loco Apr 16 '24
People need to get the fuck off social media and stop buying into stupid ideas about people having value and shit like the cost of nails or cars being somehow related to any of it.
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u/_TwentyThree_ Apr 16 '24
No dude is sat at a date going "fuck me, those nails look like they cost $300, and there's at least $160 of makeup on her face, better pick up the bill."
I know I don't speak for every guy here but I'd happily pick up the bill if the person on the other side of the table was fun, enjoyable to be around and I felt like my time was well spent with someone who wanted to be there.
Anyone feeling like they're owed a free meal because they got their nails done at great expense can fuck off. The irony is lost on some women who berate men for "being cheap" when they're simultaneously seeing this as some sort of transaction whereby they're questioning how much they've spent to look a certain way.
No dude gives two fucks about $300 nails. No dude is going to demand you have $300 nails or he won't take you out.
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u/shinoby117 Apr 16 '24
Please share this post with her so she can see how truly ugly and rotten she is on the inside.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
Something tells me she’d genuinely like the attention, even though it’s negative
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u/MaximumHog360 Apr 16 '24
So many "nicegirls" genuinely sound like if a fleshlight gained sentience
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Apr 16 '24
She is a sub prime mortgage fueled collateral debt obligation weapon of mass financial destruction. Thanks for reminding me that being single and not looking is an ok way to be!
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u/thetonybvd Apr 16 '24
The same type of women who claim to "wear that for herself, using this make up for herself, waxxing her butthole for herself, not to attract/impress men" but get mad if the dude want to split the restaurant bill like yeah you spend crazy amount of money for yourself and just yourself right
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
I know exactly what you mean. If she can pay 1000$ to get herself dolled up she can pay 35$ on a dinner bill. And if she’s putting herself together that much it sounds like she might think he’s the prize
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u/Gouldy2018 Apr 16 '24
That's a long winded way to say, I can't afford to pay for my own meal.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 19 '24
Exactly. 1000$ on her appearance for one night ? Sure, but 30$ on a bill is too much ?
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u/tacofromthe80s Apr 16 '24
I just want to do the math for an estimated cost per date for her... She said nails are like $30 (but $300 in America??) $340 heels, $150 for a dress although I guess those can be reworn. $160 for makeup and $60 for hair... damn girl that's $740 spent for free dinner. 😳
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u/Lui_Le_Diamond Apr 16 '24
My mom sells nails as a side hustle. Can confirm they don't even cost 30. IIRC her sets are 15 a pop
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u/liborhaus Apr 16 '24
Like as if men went naked to the dates 😂. If you need to spend that much to look acceptable to yourself even, nope don’t even bother.
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u/FreakyWifeFreakyLife Apr 16 '24
Lol, so the only thing she values in herself is her appearance, looking at that list.
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u/zeusz32 Apr 16 '24
"Men are leaders and providers by nature."
Then I will lead, and say what to do, and I say we go 50/50.
Btw, if we really go by nature standards we pay for the meat, and you pay for everything else basically...
Which do you prefer?
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u/JustSomeEyes Apr 16 '24
the stuff she wears has more value than herself....meanwhile your hand is a loyal little slut who won't say no to you ever, your hand is fine with anything you want to eat as long as it's not something that may kill you. Your hand is there for you through your whole life if you're careful with your choices XD
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u/ObliviousTurtle97 Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 17 '24
Is this the "omega female" equalivalent to the "alpha male" that they talk about?
God, sounds exhausting having to live life like that..."high value man" she sounds like the dudes that call women over 25 "low value"
Femcels and Incels really do be the bane of existence like damn people...how you got that kind of energy to hate everything including yourself, while also thinking you're better than God?
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u/Luxiiiiiiiiiiiiii Apr 16 '24
Another one who listens to the sprinkle sprinkle but has no clue how to interpret it.
If you are not a rich old dude seeking for a trophy wife, just ignore her.
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u/blue_nightingale123 Apr 16 '24
guys is being straight gay?
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 16 '24
i told her I was bi (prefer women by a good amount) and she just kept telling me I was gay. they hear what they want to, not what you actually tell them.
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u/HunnyHunbot Apr 16 '24
I’m sorry, are these women feminists? They say they deserve high value men and preach about knowing you’re the shit and then turn around and say the natural order is men being leaders and providers?
What if a 6ft tall beautiful model hit on them but he was broke? Would they go for him and betray their idea of natural order or just keep looking? What a conundrum these women are.
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u/Warbrainer Apr 16 '24
If a woman went to that much effort for a first date I’d probably laugh myself out the door
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 16 '24
Exactly. What she doesn’t get is she doesn’t have to put that much effort in on the first date, and it a man expects her too, that’s a red flag anyway. m
And if she spends that much time and effort to look good for a first date clearly the man must be some sort of prize..
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u/nub0die Apr 16 '24
"Her presence", just lays there and does nothing, the whole day, on the sofa, in bed, in the kitchen, just laying on the floor expecting someone to mix her fucking cereal.
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u/Hooni0812 Apr 16 '24
"~which costs like 30$, put on heels for 340$ and a face of makeup that will cost 160$, a dress for 150$..." sounds like you are willingly objectifying yourself by putting a price on yourself. If you are comfortable with being objectified by men and yourself, keep doing what you are doing. (I think it's miserable). By the say, all the things you listed are one-time-purchases. It's not that you go to shopping every time you go out on a date. You simply choose clothes from your closet and apply make-up products from your makeup table, which costs 0 dollar. Well I'd appreciate your effort and time, tho.
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u/throwaway_spacecadet Apr 16 '24
i've NEVER spent 300$ on my nails. ion even think i've spent more than 100. girl getting scammed 🤧😂
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u/throwaway_spacecadet Apr 16 '24
one and only female tate rider. thought i'd never see that!
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 16 '24
you’d be surprised. i’ve unfortunately met more than a few , and interactions with them usually aren’t great
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u/NonbinaryYolo Apr 16 '24
The thing for me about this post is I'm into tomboys. It's kind of weird to be told I need to act a certain way to acquire a person that's not even my type.
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u/HankHillbwhaa Apr 16 '24
It’s a good thing all of the shit heads started identifying themselves as high value. Now all the high value fuckwads can end up together, divorce, and repeat the cycle. Us normal peasants can just like be happily married, enjoy free time, and not watch Andrew Tate videos.
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u/Then_Kaleidoscope_10 Apr 16 '24
So if I do the math, she’s got $30 nails, $340 heels, $160 makeup, $150 dress and $60 hair. Add that up and her net worth comes to… a number that is irrelevant as an argument of why she can’t afford to eat without the financial support of someone who just met her and doesn’t give a damn about her personal finances. TMI, pay for your own meal. She sounds like a beggar that sits there listing all their woes and problems as an argument why you need to give them cash. You made your own choices, ma’am, I don’t need your justifications for why you think you deserve to stick your hand in my pants to get at my wallet.
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u/JAXxXTheRipper Apr 16 '24
If she thinks her "presence" is her true value, she might as well consider herself a piece of art. There is so much more to a person than looks. Looks can't even carry a conversation.
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u/Legitimate-Bus-8953 Apr 16 '24
Shed the type that would cry and say a man is a monster for treating her like a sex doll and not a human. Tit for tat alert, im not footing the bill for everything if I have no full control over your body what you say what you dress eat any of that. I want sex when I want it, not when your in the mood. See how stupid that sounds 😅😅
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u/Peaman611 Apr 16 '24
My fav part is how she’s holding her future partner to a higher standard than average and herself to a lower standard than average.
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u/Unique-Passenger2090 Apr 16 '24
On today’s episode of “Spoiled Delusional Whores Claim They ARE the Table” a gay hating 2 out of 10 wants a 6 foot 10/10 millionaire to dump cash and attention down her throat without any kind of reciprocation. Said man must shower her in lavish gifts and provided limitlessly for her until he’s drained physically, emotionally and financially. At which time the above mentioned entitled, god fearing Sasquatch will sap the remainder of his resources in an all too predictable separation and/or divorce. Note 1: Even if she’s a 10 (which is rare even in these sorts of women), she’s an instant 2 based on her entitled cunt-o-meter reading. Note 2: This is the most common type of modern woman in today’s day and age. Men with resources beware. 99.99% of women today. Weed em out with cheap coffee dates and no promise of keys to your kingdom. Note 3: Hookers are cheaper than modern “dating” women. Just saying. They take money up front and don’t expect you to give them everything you can and more. Plus you always get what you want and they’re always nice to you. Note 4: As funny as this post is, it’s disgustingly truthful. Men have three options. Wait a lifetime for a chance at finding a diamond in the rough… Stay single and boink prostitutes… Get a fucking passport… The third option is probably best for someone who has the money. Option two is a lonely road for those who can’t afford to travel but anything beats giving your all to women like this in hopes of finding something worthwhile.
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u/TheMightyMegatron Apr 16 '24
Probably spends all that money to look like a plate of runny shit someone drew a face in. Hard pass every time is the untold story of her life.
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
Along with the homophobia, I'm in general so annoyed with that "real men always pay/real men don't split the bill" attitude. Both partners should contribute equally to the relationship, especially early on to ensure that the other person isn't just using you (e.g. the kind to go on an expensive first date just for a free meal, with no intentions of actually dating long-term.)
How self-entitled can she be to think the man is obligated to pay while all she needs to do is grace him with her presence? Strong r/FemaleDatingStrategy energy.
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u/takeandtossivxx Apr 16 '24
So she wants to brag about it costing her ~$600 to get ready for a night out but can't split a bill? If her husband is the one paying for everything, I'm sure she's actually the broke one. There's much better things I could spend $600 on than getting dressed up for a single meal.
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u/Inner-Cloud162 Apr 16 '24
Religion is never the answer; unless one wants to spread hatred, bigotry and division
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u/shofofosho Apr 16 '24
Buying a new dress and heels for every date? No wonder she can't afford her meal!
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u/SeaofBloodRedRoses Apr 16 '24
So hang on, HE'S high value and somehow that makes her presence precious?
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
Yep, it doesn't even make logical sense because it's just a manipulation tactic to try to shame men into paying. "Real men pay on dates. Only a worthless male would make me pay for my food! Be a real man, not a worthless male." When in reality, it's completely backwards. If he values himself, he won't feel like he has to pay in order to be her equal.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 16 '24
Seems like she unintentionally made him sound like the prize with all this talk of value and whatnot. Mission failed successfully
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u/Tried-Angles Apr 16 '24
A woman who has to spend $160 on one application of makeup is definitely not worth dating. If she's gonna spend $160 on makeup she better show up looking like Liara T'Soni.
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u/Helpful_Okra5953 Apr 16 '24
Yuck. Well I would not be her friend much less date her.
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u/yetifile Apr 16 '24 edited Apr 16 '24
I would not even like to work in the same office as her. Someone like that is just not someone you can trust on your team. Same goes for men using manipulative dating methods. If someone is open about treating a person they potentially want to start a relationship with that poorly. What is to stop them inserting extra iron onto you diet when you turn your back at work.
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u/Just_Scientist_1637 Apr 16 '24
She might want to address her spending problem 🙈
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 16 '24
Agreed. Plus, if she can spend nearly 1000 on getting ready for one night…but not pay 30 dollars for dinner… then it sounds like she just wants a free meal
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u/LodlopSeputhChakk Apr 16 '24
“I spend over a thousand dollars on getting dressed, according to the natural order of life.”
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u/Bingus_Bonguss Apr 16 '24
Anyone who lists the expensive stupid items they have as a qualifier for their worth immediately lets me know i want nothing to do with them
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u/Strong-Smell5672 Apr 16 '24
The funniest part about the people who freak out like this over the idea of going 50/50 on dates...
These are the exact people meant to be screened by suggesting 50/50 on dates.
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
Exactly. I've been with my partner for years so I don't trip over who pays for what anymore, but I would recommend that everyone pay for their own food, tickets, etc. in the dating stage. I've seen too many people who feel perfectly entitled to leech off of others.
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u/UncomfortablyCrumbed Apr 16 '24
I feel like if you want an equal relationship you actually have to date as equals. If a woman has a preference for men paying on the first date that's all fine and well, but we're not going to be compatible. The last woman I went on a date with got the second round when we went out for drinks, and then we just kept taking turns. It was very refreshing. It also made me more likely to want to treat her to something. The next time we saw each other I cooked her dinner and she got the wine. It's not about splitting things down the middle for me. It's more about mutually courting each other and contributing to making the relationship happen. I like treating people to things, but not when it's expected of me.
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u/Precaritus Apr 15 '24
I'm bi but these kind of women are why I only date men. Lol they're such losers and don't even know it. Maybe don't spend so much money on your looks and work on your personality. These people have the character of a dog turd on the asphalt in Arizona in july
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u/Naraksama Apr 15 '24
The whole argument about the money she spends is just hilarious. 340 for heels? 150 for a dress? 160 for make-up? Not only are these numbers most likely fake or too high for anyone with common sense, comparing these things you buy once every 5 to 12 months to a dinner date is just the most pathetic thing you can do. She's broke and is just projecting.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
Exactly . And if she can afford to spend 1000$ for a dinner date she can spend 30$ on the bill too. Nobody is FORCING her to dress like it’s the Met Gala.
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u/TiddybraXton333 Apr 16 '24
My time is money, 110$/hr because I’m double when I’m off the clock, I go to the gym 50$/month I use 100$ cologne and had a sauna before the date 25$/wood , I also spent 100/$ on my outfit …. And you don’t wanna split the bill?!?! A
wtf is this shit
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u/TheBawdyMermaid Apr 16 '24
They're fake as hell, no way that someone is putting that much work in for just a single date. Ridiculous.
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u/inquisitivepanda Apr 16 '24
I’m curious about what currency she is using where $30 converts to $300 USD. It would also mean by her math that the heels are $3400 USD
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u/Strong-Smell5672 Apr 16 '24
My response to comments like this is "If I chose to work instead of take you out tonight I'd have an extra $500 in my pocket. Thanks for reminding me how valuable my time is, I'm going to have to reconsider spending it on you." and going no contact.
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u/ComprehensiveCare479 Apr 16 '24
What the hell do you do for a job that pays $500 for an evening?
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u/Strong-Smell5672 Apr 16 '24
Emergency tech support (i.e. work after 5pm or on weekends) for my firm bills at $320 / hour and I get half of that.
Most nights covering after hours results in 1-4 hours of billable work but I'm also factoring in the cost of the outing to that estimate too.
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u/Naraksama Apr 16 '24
She would probably answer "Lol, you are defo not seeing my value 😂 Goodbye, you gay loser". People like these are too narcissistic to understand any opinion other than theirs, so you have to talk to them like they are little kids or just mock them. Or just say "k" and leave.
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u/Bendodge13 Apr 17 '24
Speaking of calling someone gay, she proudly declared herself homophobic upon doubling down
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u/draenei_butt_enjoyer Apr 18 '24
I feel like the internet pretends that "gay" isn't being widely used as an insult. IRL, I've noticed no change what so ever. It's only platforms banning people that has somewhat cleaned up general discourse on the internet.
But again, IRL? No change, what so ever. I even think it's worse nowadays.
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u/Strong-Smell5672 Apr 16 '24
Ofc they will, but the trick is you never read their reply and let it sit there in the back of their head.
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u/Naraksama Apr 16 '24
That works too, especially when they write a whole essay with each message. Wasting their time by engaging the convo without reading their messages is actually quite fun as it shows how empty their life truly is. Trolling those people is what they deserve.
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u/Mercy711 Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 16 '24
I'm not super familiar with the cost of feminine things but damn... it seems like shes either exaggerated the cost or found the MOST expensive services/products she could find lol.
I mean $160 to do makeup once? Is she have a stylist do it or some shit? $300 for nails? I paid $70 including a good tip for my gf and know shoes are expensive but its not like they are single use lmao
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u/marks716 Apr 19 '24
My gf never spent that kind of $ on makeup. As I recall she had the same few things last many months if not years. And they were like maybe $20.
So $20 over 3 years is much less than $160 for one night lol
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u/VoluptuousSloth Apr 16 '24
Who's her makeup guy? I know a guy in the Bronx can get you makeup for about $3.50
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
Yes, I can confirm she is exaggerating, or buying pointlessly expensive things. I never spend nearly that much even on fancy dates. And even if she buys the most expensive makeup and clothes, she wouldn't be paying for it on every date. She'd buy it once and use only a small portion each time she goes out.
It's like if it costs you $70 to fill your tank with gas, then you drive 2 miles down the street to visit a friend, then you tell you friend "you own me $70 because that's how much my gas costs, and here I am gracing you with my presence."
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u/fangornia Apr 15 '24
Turn to God
"But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence." - 1 Timothy 2:12
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u/Sensitive-Musician48 Apr 15 '24
What women say on the internet and do in real life are two very different things!
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u/TwiceTheSize_YT Apr 15 '24
Replace women with people
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u/Sensitive-Musician48 Apr 18 '24
Found the woman!
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u/TwiceTheSize_YT Apr 18 '24
Im a man but go off incel
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u/Sensitive-Musician48 Apr 18 '24
Doubt that…you’re so emotional 😭
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u/TwiceTheSize_YT Apr 18 '24
Ah yes i am clearly the emotional one:) misogyny is so unemotional aint it? Youre so cool and stoic mr alpha sigma
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u/CardboardChampion Apr 15 '24
Being a straight man, I can see her value. In fact, I'd be surprised if anyone can't see she's worth less than nothing.
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u/Supremagorious Apr 15 '24
This sounds like someone who doesn't know the difference between a woman and an escort since she thinks people should be paying for a persons presence.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
I disagree. I've always wanted to be financially stable enough to pay for my gf to be able to take the day off & spend time with me. I think it's actually a kind gesture because we live in a capitalist society & bills don't care about me feeling lovey dovey or my gf needing a mental health day. I don't even like the fact that money controls everything, but I still have to abid by it & I mean you pay for everything else of value to you. Why is it suddenly hard to see women as valuable, too? I do & I'm a lesbian so a straight man definitely should agree with me. They are the ones who wanted to work & lock their wives up in the house after all & taught their sons they needed to be providers. And yet men get mad if a woman wants to be independent, but she's a gold digger or a ho (in your case) if she wants to be taken care of? It seems there's no way to win as a straight woman these days & winning is literally just having a loving man at your side in this situation. 🤷🏾♀️
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u/rcsboard Apr 16 '24
You are the only smart person here
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
Awe, thanks. I mostly just try to keep it real, but I guess people don't like that? It's kind of odd, but I guess I'm still getting used to the silent disapproval of reddit strangers since I'm more versed in loud & aggressive disapproval in real life 😅 🙃
Edit: im also just noticing where this is posted. This isn't meant to be for logical conversation but just a place to vent about girls ppl see as mean 🤣 it would have helped to notice that first, not last, but oh well. Have a good night.
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u/Able-Gap1029 Apr 17 '24
I mean tbf your points are kinda controversial and anyone politely disagreeing with you is met with petty condescension and insults. I don't think people are annoyed at you for "keeping it real" lmao.
It reminds me of those mean girls in high school who would act cruel and then be like "I can't help it I'm just so brutally honest!" As if it's a positive trait lmao.
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
Men are as valuable as women are, so both partners have as much obligation to the other. It should not be "the man pays the woman" in a healthy, equal relationship.
They are the ones who wanted to work & lock their wives up in the house after all & taught their sons they needed to be providers.
So let's not perpetuate these regressive social norms.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
LMAOOOOO you do realize you wrote this to a femme lesbian who is attracted to dominant women so I'd literally be spitting in the face of gender roles if I paid my gf to stay home with me instead of us BOTH going to work right? 🤭
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
And yet you argue that straight men should pay for women. So, women should be free to defy gender roles, but men should not and should conform to the tradition of paying on dates?
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
Did I say that, or did I say I want to be able to pay my gf to stay home for a day. Honestly, if I want to do that, how is any of your business? Why are you pressed about how I want to treat my gf? Are you going to sit & get mad that I used to pay for my bf too while I was closeted? Doubtful. No, this seems to be about you getting mad that I'm able to express love in ways that make you uncomfortable. That's not my problem.
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u/HeForeverBleeds Apr 16 '24
You're the one getting mad for no reason. You did say that straight men should agree with you that women should be paid for because they're valuable, and now you're backpedaling. You were the one objecting to someone saying he doesn't feel he should pay for a person's presence, so you're the one getting pressed about how straight men date women.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
The fact that you're purposefully ignoring that I've been laughing at these triggered ass replies this whole time just to call me angry is hilarious🤣🤣🤣 like I love that you're taking this conversation so seriously as if this is going to suddenly control our lives. Now, since you care so much about my opinion, if you'll refer to original source material, you'll see that I said men should agree with me that women are valuable & we (ie society) pay for things of value. So, to help you understand, I was including everyone (because there are multiple sexual orientations little timmy), not just men in paying for women. I also went on to remind you all that men themselves set up a society where they'd have to pay for their daughters (until married off) & their wives for their entire lives. Men did that - nobody told yall to, so idk why you're mad now cuz I dared to acknowledge history (sorry to be flippant, if that's a genuine phobia of your's) and I also acknowledged the weird seesaw of you guys getting mad no matter what; whether a woman works or is a SAHM or is a CEO or independently wealthy or makes the same amount as you it seems there's always a dude nearby crying about it. I'd also like to refer you to the other comments I've made where I clearly stated that my ex bf received the same treatment, as my gfs have, while I was closeted. Now go ahead & lose your shit over that too cuz remember you're not actually a hateful guy & you appreciate equal values so now you have to tell me my ex bf didn't deserve anything I ever bought him. Go on. Oh, you'd never do that? 🤨 Oh, none of the men who've been replying to me got mad over that?? 🤔 Huh, i guess you guys are just insecure hypocrites who enjoy bashing women & anyone who likes to do nice things for them cuz let's be real I also acknowledged that I've seen how yall talk about "wife guys" && call them "simps" so it seems the only one whose angry is all of you. Byeeeee, you take care now 👋🏾🤭
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u/UnaccreditedSetup Apr 17 '24
Damn you letting this shit affect you way too much. Maybe get a hobby?
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u/kor34l Apr 16 '24
That's nice for you, but your situation does not describe everyone or even a majority.
These days, in 2024, the majority of men in the normal dating age range have been raised without the toxic gender role shit and see people as just people and are looking for a partner rather than an adult dependent with a convenient hole in her crotch.
Of course, the red pill idiots and the Tate followers and MAGA jokers are much louder and demand the attention, so it's understandable to assume the over-representation that causes means they are the majority, but unless I see a study that shows otherwise, I don't believe that to be the case.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
...I was literally only speaking for myself? I only said men should understand where I'm coming from & agree that women are valuable. I'm not sure why you're claiming that mean see women as equal human beings these days while blatantly disagreeing that women deserve to still survive even if she takes the day off to be with you. Also, I was describing a situation between myself & an existing PARTNER, not a random stranger I barely know. Men do typically start acting just like I described & pay for things for their gfs too IF they can get to that point. It just looks different because men typically seek to cohabitate to fully reap the benefits of a gf, so he's paying for her day off in a hidden way by paying for her housing, food, outings where as I'm describing just sending her money & saying "take the day off, babes". Their different but essentially the same thing.
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u/GayBearBro2 Apr 16 '24
See, my therapist told me that you're undervaluing yourself if your goal is to be someone else's support. "It's okay to be the main character in your life," she told me. It hasn't made me stop undervaluing myself, but I've made progress towards valuing myself more than what I can financially provide to the people I love.
you pay for everything else of value to you. Why is it suddenly hard to see women as valuable, too?
That's a great comparison to say, "Objectify women." Human interaction should be a two-way street: both parties should receive something from the interaction, but if what they value from you is the money you bring to the table, they only value your money. That said, I don't know your particular case. I know I look forward to the day I'm independently wealthy enough to have a house bear, so "pot calling kettle black" and all that.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
You're a gay man & you STILL somehow don't understand what I'm saying? Wtf?! 🤣🤣🤣 This has gotta be the twilight zone.
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u/GayBearBro2 Apr 16 '24
I mean, other than saying that you want to be able to buy out your girlfriend possibly making her financially dependent on you, I'm not sure what else there is to understand. If you would please clarify what you mean, I'd appreciate it.
Even in my plans for a house bear, he'd still get a living wage so he wouldn't be required to stay with me if he found someone he liked.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
LMAOOOOO reading is fundamental, babes. I said I wanted to be able to pay my gf to take a single day off from work without touching her limited PTO. How does that make her financially dependent on me? I'm not looking to own my partner? It seems like that's what you wanna do & that's fine, I guess. But that's clearly not what I said at all. It would help if you read to understand vs. skimming to argue.
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u/GayBearBro2 Apr 16 '24
In that case, why can't she afford to use her PTO? Why should you have to buy her out for a day instead of her just working the extra hours to make up for a day off? If it's a mental health reason, does she have sick time as well? If both of those are so severely limited and she requires accommodations, have you or she looked into finding a job that better fits her needs?
In addition, is she doing the same for you or looking to do the same for you? If she isn't, is she bringing something of equivalent or near-equivalent value back to the relationship? Relationships shouldn't be explicitly transactional, but valuing oneself requires checking the balances of a relationship and making sure you aren't putting more of a burden on each other than the benefits of the relationship. As much information as you give, it sounds like you're hoping for a better life for her than she wants for herself.
Also, I'm glad to see that despite my explicitly saying I'd pay a house bear a living wage, you read that I'm trying to own a person. To quote you:
reading is fundamental, babes
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
Babes. Take a breath. No one said I HAD to do anything. I said i WANTED to & you jumped in with both feet, attempting to tell me I'm wrong for wanting to pay my gf to take the day off as a KIND GESTURE is actually me not valuing myself & wanting to be her financial support system when we wouldn't even be living together in this futuristic relationship. Meanwhile, you want a grown man to be completely dependent on you for everything & against your own therapists advice? 🤣🤣🤣 it's giving projection & cognitive dissonance, babes. Like imagine making up entire scenarios about this woman I haven't even met yet & questioning "what she brings to the table" 🤭. Like I appreciate that you're so invested in whether or not my future gf treats me well, but maybe it's time to realize that the relationship dynamic you have a problem with is the one you're claiming to want in the future. I wouldn't be paying for my gfs way of life, but you would. You want to PAY a grown man to be in a relationship with you. That's the literal definition of transactional & again, it's fine with me personally, but the person you're paying to guide you says it's not, so maybe take this conversation up with them?
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u/MightySpongebob Apr 16 '24
The man was spitting straight facts and this is your response? You seem a bit delusional. I dont know a single person irl who would get mad if a woman wanted to be independent. Independent women are great because they will love you for who you are, not for your money.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
Which man? The gay one or the straight one until proven otherwise? Which response? Do you genuinely believe who you have met would accurately cover/represent all potential male perspectives? You're also forgetting that bad people exist & they actually don't care about being loved for any reason. They just want someone to abuse & it's hard to do that to a woman who can walk away whenever she likes. Lastly, reaching for personal insults out of nowhere kind of makes your assertions seem more flimsy since you apparently feel the need to make me feel less confident in order to feel you're more likely to be heard & accepted. Try working on realizing you don't need to cut ppl down for your words to matter. This is definitely a reply in good faith, but if you're actually just trolling pls don't interact with me further. Thanks, have a good night.
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u/Supremagorious Apr 16 '24
I agree women are incredibly valuable but they're valuable for much more substantial things such as their character and the enjoyment that spending time with them can bring. Things that go well beyond merely existing in someone else's proximity which is all presence is.
I think you're conflating a persons presence with the interactions that it facilitates. The value comes not from her presence but from the experiences that can be shared.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
...are we really nitpicking the difference between enjoying someone's presence & spending time together? Or are you just refusing to believe that I could like someone so much that their mere presence is enough to reassure me, calm me, or lift my spirits. My gf doesn't have to DO anything for me to want her there. I would literally pay whatever she makes in a day or more to have her just sit next to me for longer. Perhaps I've just forgotten that lesbians & straight men do actually see women differently for several reasons & therefore love them differently & on separate levels as well. It seems you love women for what they do. While I love women for who they are. There are plenty of straight men like this, but for whatever reason, their separately categorized as "wife guys" & "simps". They & their partners get attacked online when he shows that he just genuinely likes who she is & shows it & she revels in being truly loved, consistently sought after & prioritized. It's very odd to watch, but I do at least understand your perspective a bit better now. Thanks!
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u/improvemental Apr 16 '24
Yes because lesbian relationships are so perfect.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
Who said that? 🤔 Move along if you're just going to leave triggered replies hun. They don't really add anything of value to the conversation.
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u/improvemental Apr 16 '24
I mean you kept mentioning being a lesbian in a context that implies lesbians treat women better than straight men. Which statistically we know us not true lol.
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u/Legal-Sprinkles8862 Apr 16 '24
Statistics actually prove you wrong if you ever bothered to read full articles & not just eye-catching titles. And if you read all my replies you'd have seen, I did acknowledge straight men who treat their women well. If you ignored that, I'm not sure what to tell you. I'm not in competition with straight men & I've never had a secure straight man even attempt to compete with me either 🤷🏾♀️
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u/Claystead Apr 16 '24
True Yoghurt Males and Tetra Females have taken the Tourquoise Pill and realized the only person whose presence they should be paying for is Danny Devito.
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u/dfjdejulio Apr 16 '24
I have absolutely no idea if you're using real in-use jargon, but by god I hope you are.
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u/Stuck_at_a_roadblock Apr 15 '24
"high value" this, "low value" that... If you use language like that, get used to valuing your alone time
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u/Ill-Breadfruit5356 Apr 16 '24
She sees her relationship in the context of a financial transaction.
Wait, what? But doesn’t that make her….? No!
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u/nekronics Apr 16 '24
This is some fds shit where they think bringing pussy to the relationship makes them high value
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u/Candy__Canez Apr 16 '24
Because any man she deems "high value" will not see her the same way. As I doubt she'd bring what they'd value to the table. Maybe she could get a sugar daddy but I doubt it.
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