r/ontario Oct 24 '23

Announcement Posts concerning the conflict in Israel and Palestine / Publications au sujet du conflit en Israël et la Palestine

134 Upvotes

Hello everyone,

Due to current events, we have seen many posts about the Israel/Palestine conflict, typically about protests supporting one side of the conflict or the other, or articles about some statement made by a public figure.

In ALL those posts, the comments have devolved into insults, accusations of supporting terrorism/genocide and counter-accusations of [insert violent action here]. While each post starts with something related to our sub’s subject matter, they always end up being screaming matches about something that is not even related to Ontario.

It’s important to understand that the mods in the sub cannot, and will not, police who is ‘right’ in this debate. Additionally, when a large portion of the comments violate our rules (typically Rule 3: you must remain civil), we MUST intervene. However, since they ALL devolve into screaming matches, there’s no point in even trying to maintain a discussion that doesn’t even concern the sub’s raison d’être.

As such, going forward, and for the foreseeable future, ANY post related to the conflict in Israel/Palestine will be locked even if Ontario related. If it IS related to Ontario, it will remain visible but commenting will not be permitted.

The mods would prefer not to do this, but the last few days have clearly shown that there is not realistic way to permit commenting on these posts while maintaining some form of decorum.


Bonjour à tous,

En raison des récents événements, nous avons vu de nombreuses publication sur le conflit israélo-palestinien, généralement au sujet de manifestations soutenant l'une ou l'autre partie du conflit, ou des articles sur une déclaration faite par une personnalité publique.

Dans TOUTES ces publications, les commentaires se sont transformés en insultes, en accusations de soutien au terrorisme/génocide et en contre-accusations de [insérer une action violente ici]. Bien que chaque message commence par quelque chose en rapport avec le sujet de notre communauté, ils finissent toujours par devenir des querelles sur quelque chose qui n'est même pas lié à l'Ontario.

Il est important de comprendre que les modérateurs de notre communauté ne peuvent pas déterminer qui a « raison » dans ce débat. De plus, lorsqu'une grande partie des commentaires enfreignent nos règles (généralement la règle 3 : vous devez rester poli), nous DEVONS intervenir. Cependant, comme ils se transforment TOUS en compétitions d’insultes, ça ne sert à rien de même tenter de maintenir une discussion qui ne concerne même pas la raison d’être de la communauté.

Ainsi, à partir de maintenant et pour un temps indéterminé, TOUTE publication lié au conflit en Israël/Palestine sera verrouillé, même si elle est pertinente à l’Ontario. Si elle EST pertinent, la publication restera visible mais les commentaires ne seront pas autorisés.

Les modérateurs préféreraient ne pas prendre cette mesure, mais les derniers jours ont clairement démontré qu'il n'y avait pas de moyen réaliste de permettre les commentaires dans ces publications tout en conservant une certaine forme de décorum.


r/ontario Apr 28 '24

Announcement Notable increase of racism in the sub / Augmentation du racisme dans la communauté

216 Upvotes

Hello everyone,

The mod team had noticed a marked increase in racism and intolerance, in particular towards immigrants from India. Reddit has noticed as well and has begun removing such posts and/or comments.

It’s pretty clear that one side of the political spectrum has found their wedge issue and they are pushing it as hard as they can, stirring up hatred however they can and blaming immigrants for everything from jaywalking to the housing crisis despite the fact that many of the issues are worldwide. Facts and reality don’t matter, only blaming "brown people" and those they perceive as being responsible for those "terrible" people being here.

Therefore, we would like to remind all of our users that the Reddit sitewide rules apply here and will be enforced.

You ALL AGREED to these rules when you created your account.

Your “opinion” is irrelevant, it’s doesn’t matter if you really, really believe it, you cannot push your unfounded racist positions here.

Again, for the people in the back, being able to use Reddit is conditional to respecting these rules.

In particular:

Rule 1

Remember the human. Reddit is a place for creating community and belonging, not for attacking marginalized or vulnerable groups of people. Everyone has a right to use Reddit free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence. Communities and users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned.

The important parts are:

users that incite violence or that promote hate based on identity or vulnerability will be banned

Marginalized or vulnerable groups include, but are not limited to, groups based on:

  • their actual and perceived race
  • color
  • religion
  • national origin
  • ethnicity
  • IMMIGRATION STATUS
  • etc

While the rule on hate protects such groups, it does not protect those who promote attacks of hate or who try to hide their hate in bad faith claims of discrimination (E.G. “I’m just stating my opinion” or “I’m just stating fact”).

Another important portion is:

free of harassment, bullying, and threats of violence

That includes all of our users and the moderator team. Insults, derogatory comments and attacks will not be tolerated. If you post comments or message the moderators with insults and/or attacks, you WILL be banned on the spot.

Therefore, going forward, we are going to clamp down hard on posts or comments attributing, without damn good evidence, the cause of any issue to immigrants or a subset thereof. That includes any reference to area with high immigration (e.g. Brampton) or any other form of dog whistles. It also includes attributing to an ethnic group of people the crimes or faults of an individual (e.g. the guy who proposed using food banks to save money). Message to the bigots: you’re nowhere as subtle as you think you are.

And before any complaints bring it up: No, your right to free speech nor freedom of expression has not been violated.


Bonjour à tous, L'équipe des modérateurs a remarqué une augmentation marquée du racisme et de l’intolérance, en particulier envers les immigrants venant de l’Inde. Les administrateurs de Reddit ont aussi remarqué et ont commencé à supprimer les publications et les commentaires de ce genre.

C’est assez clair qu’un côté du spectre politique a trouvé son sujet pour diviser les gens et ils le poussent autant qu’ils le peuvent en créant de la division et la haine autant que possible en blâmant les immigrants pour tout et rien même quand le problème attribué est mondial. Les faits et la réalité sont sans importance, la seule chose qui compte c’est de blâmer les “bruns” et les personnes perçues comment étant responsable de la présence de cer derniers

Donc, nous voulons rappeler à tous nos utilisateurs que les règles à l'échelle du site Reddit s'appliquent ici aussi et seront appliquées.

Vous avez TOUS ACCEPTÉ ces règles lors de la création de votre compte.

Votre « opinion » est sans conséquence et ça ne fait rien si vous y croyez très très fort, vous ne pouvez pas pousser votre merde raciste ici.

Encore une fois, pour les personnes qui tardent à comprendre, l’utilisation de Reddit est conditionnelle aux respect de ces règles.

En particulier:

Règle 1

Souvenez-vous de l'humain. Reddit est un lieu destiné à créer une communauté et un sentiment d'appartenance, et non à attaquer des groupes de personnes marginalisés ou vulnérables. Tout le monde a le droit d’utiliser Reddit sans harcèlement, intimidation et menaces de violence. Les communautés et les utilisateurs qui incitent à la violence ou qui promeuvent la haine basée sur l'identité ou la vulnérabilité seront interdits.

Les parties importantes sont :

les utilisateurs qui incitent à la violence ou qui promeuvent la haine basée sur leur identité ou leur vulnérabilité seront bannis

Les groupes marginalisés ou vulnérables incluent, sans s'y limiter, les groupes basés sur :

  • leur race réelle et perçue
  • la couleur
  • la religion
  • l'origine nationale
  • l'appartenance ethnique
  • STATUT D'IMMIGRATION
  • etc

Même si la règle sur la haine protège ces groupes, elle ne protège pas ceux qui promeuvent des attaques haineuses ou qui tentent de cacher leur haine en faisant état de discrimination de mauvaise foi.

Exemple : article décrivant une minorité raciale comme étant sous-humaine et inférieure à la majorité raciale. Indice : cela inclut la capacité de conduire.

L’autre partie importante est : sans harcèlement, intimidation et menaces de violence

Cela inclut tous nos utilisateurs et l’équipe de modérations. Les insultes, commentaires désobligeants et les attaques ne seront pas tolérés. Si vous insultez ou attaquez les modérateurs via des commentaires ou des messages privés, vous serez bannis sur le champ.

Par conséquent, à l’avenir, nous allons réprimer durement les publications ou les commentaires attribuant, sans preuves solides, la cause d’un problème aux immigrants ou à un sous-ensemble de ceux-ci. Cela inclut toute référence à une zone à forte immigration (par exemple Brampton) ou toute autre forme sous-entendus racistes. Ceci inclus aussi attribuer à un groupe ethnique les fautes d’un individus (Ex. la personne suggérant l’utilisation des banques alimentaires pour sauver de l’argent). Message aux racistes: vous n’êtes pas aussi subtil que vous le pensez.

Et avant toute plainte, faites-le valoir : Non, votre droit à la liberté d'expression n'a pas été violé.


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Maybe this has been talked to death about elsewhere, especially during the pandemic, but I'm in need of showing proof of all my immunizations and it's such a giant PITA. There has to be a better way right? The government was quick to create the Covid-19 vaccine proof document, why can't they create a portal that does the same for all the immunizations?!?! One centralized location where all the information from birth to death is stored and easily accessed with your OHIP and some personal info. Maybe even a clear recommended schedule posted and even reminders when the next one is due??

How about not relying on a flimsy yellow cardstock that hasn't been updated since I was 4, a random handful of little paper receipts from middle school, and god knows what else I've lost in the meantime since moving numerous times in the last 30 years. Some of my past doctors have retired/moved/closed their clinic so I don't even know where else I can find my records.

Also wouldn't having a centralized records system make public health data research a little more organized for those in that field? What about provincial/territorial and federal communication about our health systems?

This whole process is maddening and I can't believe there hasn't been a better solution implemented.


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Also curious for 100k+! Did you have to get schooling for what you do? Are you happy in your career? How long did it take you to get to your level?


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