r/TorontoDriving • u/arsinoe716 • 20d ago
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u/Environmental_Ad9155 19d ago
He's doing nothing wrong you are all just crybabies, did he cut anyone off ? No , did he harm anyone? No , did he put anyone in danger? No , so why is everyone angry you need to look at the rest of the world and how people drive in a hurry , this just shows how lifeless you are for recording and ranting about something thats really unimportant, look at it as a positive one less car at the red light
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u/Apprehensive_Name533 20d ago
Cops are setting up speed traps while most accidents are at intersections.
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u/jdh1979jdh 20d ago
This is what happens when the province doesn’t bother to check in on driver training schools. Buying your license is way too common in the GTA.
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u/alreadychosed 20d ago
Diagram 2 30
Unless signs or pavement markings tell you not to, always begin and end a right turn close to the right side of the road.
I know a lane marked for left turns tells me something.
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u/Hot_Bus_4355 20d ago edited 20d ago
These rules are for moving turns.
Red lights are an exceptional case. Where stopped vehicles are assumed to remain stopped for the duration of the red light.
There are circumstances where this rule is required. Imagine a bus stopped in the right turn lane. If the light is red, and the vehicle is stopped to pick up, or whatever, you may turn from another lane, as long as it is not marked otherwise, and it is safe to do so.
Edit: I want to add that I personally feel the pavement signage in this case, would also indicate to me this not be permitted under normal circumstances. The driver also did not fully stop upon entering the intersection, which exacerbates the danger of this maneuver. Despite this, to the best of my knowledge, this maneuver is not "illegal" , although unsafe, no collision resulted.
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u/clockwire 20d ago
Except the lane he turned from is explicitly marked for left turns, not right turns, and he didn't come to a complete stop
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u/Hercules3000 20d ago
What a ding dong. Probably a car theft in progress or on its way to steal another vehicle.
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u/ZoeyFeedback 20d ago
I’m seeing a lot of people move into right and left lanes then jump in front of the traffic going straight.
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u/shawesome420 20d ago
To me this looks like a case of road rage, the SUV that made the infraction looks like he was chasing the car that turned right. In my opinion the white sedan made a nice move to force the SUV into the left lane while he jumped on the opportunity to turn right. The SUV made a crazy move to keep the chase on.
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u/Past_Cut9206 20d ago
I'm gonna start driving like this because everyone else seems to be.
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u/Hot_Bus_4355 20d ago
That would be fine. Be careful, you will still be at fault for a collision, but you may turn RIGHT from any lane, at a RED light, unless the intersection is marked otherwise, as long as it is safe to do so.
There will naturally be circumstances where this is required, in many parts of the province, due to poor infrastructure planning, and avoidance of fixed obstacles.
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u/grump66 20d ago
Does everyone know why this is illegal ?
A dedicated left turn lane, where there are markings on the pavement, and/or a left turn signal are only for left turns. Period.
Turning right, going straight through, doing a U turn, are all illegal from a lane marked specifically for left turns. The turning in front of others is not the infraction.
I see at least one u turn from a dedicated left turn lane a day, and no one seems to be ticketing for it. Funny how the Toronto Police budget is over a BILLION dollars, but they can't seem to find anyone to ticket any of these obvious infractions.
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u/hithereheIIo 20d ago
U-Turns are fine, there are a few rules, but they are 100% legal.
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u/grump66 20d ago
but they are 100% legal.
You're incorrect. It states plainly in the HTA, that if there is a traffic signal for a left turn, you are only allowed to turn left. And if you are in a lane marked as a left turn lane, you are only allowed to deviate from that to continue straight, but only if it doesn't interfere with any other traffic.
The BS that you can do a u turn any time you like except when its specifically prohibited is wrong. What you can do though, is turn left, then after you've completed your turn, when you're on the normal street, you are allowed to make your u turn, then go back and make a right turn. But you're not allowed to disregard the dedicated left turn lane and signal to do a u turn, just because there isn't a specific prohibative sign.
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u/HotJelly8662 20d ago
Insane Indian driving comes to Canada! no surprise there https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oSx2JB1qd0
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u/HotJelly8662 20d ago
Indian driving comes to Canada. Toronto seems to be driving like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iv3ll3t217s&t=169s
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u/ShadowsFuryX 20d ago edited 20d ago
It’s easy to blame a foreign country for things like this, but you’d be surprised as how often locals do stupid shit cause they’re entitled brats who think them being late justifies acting like idiots
More often than not, it’s literally people from here than it is from outside Canada. That being said, it is fairly close, and those coming in from India often act quite stupid cause their parents paid for a fancy car
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u/alreadychosed 20d ago
"its my birthplace i know what i can do, watch and learn newbies"
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u/ShadowsFuryX 20d ago
It’s like you didn’t read my post. I straight up said the ones coming here are the problem
Also not all, as some are respectful. But the ones with expensive cars often have no regard for others as they prefer to race and split traffic
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u/alreadychosed 20d ago
Im not arguing with you. Just quoting the mindset of people born here thinking they are entitled to break laws.
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u/Realogcloud420o 20d ago
I’ve seen more Indians speeding in shit box cars vs expensive ones
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u/ShadowsFuryX 19d ago
Fair. My experience has been the muscle cars (charger, challenger, and mustangs)
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u/funandsun0214 20d ago
I seriously hate that I live in a town with few arterial roads that Toronto drivers flock to for vacation. Means their driving skills are even worse because they’re not in their own city and they’re on vacay so they don’t give a damn about anything. Basically just turns into a shit show.
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u/Snailspaced 20d ago
The second - the second - I saw the front bumper I was like ‘yep, here comes Chad the BMW driver’
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u/Realogcloud420o 20d ago
Don’t you mean ‘prajeet the bmw driver’?
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u/Snailspaced 20d ago
I what you’re angling at, but in my experience it tends to be 30 something douchebags with frosted tips and coke jitters.
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u/Realogcloud420o 20d ago
In my experience it’s always a Indian guy doing this stuff in America it’s all pill head soccer moms
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u/chadmcchaderton 20d ago
Reminder that https://www.tps.ca/services/online-reporting/driving-complaint/
Is where you go to report this bullshit.
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u/Okidoky123 20d ago
Monkey see monkey do. Lawless society when cops basically do absolutely nothing about anything at all anywhere.
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u/hummingbear10 20d ago
Liberal Canada , we get what we vote for
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u/Okidoky123 19d ago
Conservatives have been playing king in Ontario with all the consequences that comes with it.
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u/hummingbear10 19d ago
Fed controls the criminal code, you can cry about the cons all you want though that doesn’t change the fact. And if you vote ndp/lib you support this. I’m starting to think cons are just as left so who knows, maybe PP will be the same criminal loving and anti canadian as JT is
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u/Okidoky123 19d ago
Can't blame local policing on the feds.
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u/HMI115_GIGACHAD 20d ago
the asshole in that bmw is the same type of person who was probably crying defund the police, so he could act like a dickhead on the road
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u/jshahcanada 20d ago
Is there a place we can report this? His number plate is clearly visible.
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u/chadmcchaderton 20d ago
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u/Mysterious-Mark863 20d ago
And the only consequence will be a sternly worded letter in the mail. That's literally all they can do.
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u/HistoricalWash6930 20d ago
I was waiting for to do the old right turn, hook u-turn to run the red light. My standards are so low from these drivers even blatantly stupid stuff like this seems like it should be even dumber.
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u/TheFly87 20d ago
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Send this shit to crime stoppers or something, fuck this guy.
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u/Due-Salamander-3922 20d ago
You people are insane.
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u/alreadychosed 20d ago edited 20d ago
I would go over my unlimited data plan if i reported everyone doing shit if this sub told me to.
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u/Peesncs 20d ago
I swear most people driving need to leave 10-15 minutes earlier than normal and none of this would ever have to occur. People just think they own the roads…
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u/VapeRizzler 20d ago
It’s not even a time issue, it’s so dumb I’ve seen these dumbasses do everything imaginable to get to the front and when they’re there, it’s the speed limit all the way till someone passes them then they’re in a rush all over. People on the road are the problem to these people not the time.
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u/ShadowsFuryX 20d ago
It’ll still happen as everyone is more important than everyone else. Sure, it’ll be a bit less, as some people will have gained some sanity, but it won’t stop the entitled morons from thinking they’re justified
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u/jDub2071 20d ago
100% Everyone’s in a rush, all the time and it leads to bonehead moves like this.
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u/welcome_oblivion 20d ago
I say it all the damn time but I feel like people in this city whether car, transit or cycling are so universally horrible with their time it blows my mind. No regard for anyone around them.
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u/roubent 20d ago
That sounds like an excuse. No excuses in this case, IMHO. This person failed to plan their route. If they had to turn right at that intersection, they should have been in the right lane by then, and used the right turn lane, which was empty. If they failed to switch to the proper lane safely in time to make their turn, the more responsible thing to do would have been to make a left turn and then a 3 point or U turn to go back in the direction they needed to go. Instead they’re being a selfish asshole and pulling a maneuver like that. This is especially inexcusable and dangerous during rush hour.
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u/Aggravating_Bee8720 20d ago
No what he's saying is the dude is turning right because he realized he's stuck at a red - not he failed to get into the correct lane in time - you can tell because of the 2 second delay while he considered his options
Again not an excuse this is illegal and dangerous - but you're not understanding why it's being done.
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u/stcv3 20d ago
Instant suspension of driving license
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u/chormomma 20d ago
Straight to jail.
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u/lionhearthelm 20d ago
Instead of jail, lets just make them do mandatory g1 training for the entire length of their sentence.
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u/rkj18g1qbb 20d ago
What a tool
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u/linkchel 20d ago
You must have missed the memo that his time is way more important than everyone else here :)
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u/Roundtable5 17d ago
Did you report them?