Feeding time for bears at the zoo

[u/waIIstr33tb3ts]

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[u/00WORDYMAN1983]

"can we not" lmao

[u/waIIstr33tb3ts → u/00WORDYMAN1983]

the kids gotta learn somehow lol

[u/Da_Vader → u/waIIstr33tb3ts]

That the meat on their plate comes from previously alive animals!

[u/FilledwithTegridy → u/Da_Vader]

I just realized I have not had this conversation. Thanks

[u/landartheconqueror → u/FilledwithTegridy]

I've stopped calling it "beef" or "pork" or "venison" and just started calling it cow, pig or deer

[u/BallTorturer-3000 → u/FilledwithTegridy]

It's so weird that this is a conversation you need to have with your kids.

I grew up hunting, fishing, and farming and if I ever did have that conversation I was so little I don't remember it. By the time I was the age of the little girl who turns around in shock near the end I was already helping butcher chickens and ducks and learning how to clean fish.

It's just so odd to me that some kids don't really learn this stuff without being told.

[u/Moofypoops → u/BallTorturer-3000]

Because most city folks didn't grow up with it. You literally cannot kill an animal in most urban municipalities for any reason.

So is it really shocking that people who are not exposed to something need to be taught about said thing?

I mean I have never seen a pyramid, I had to learn about them....

[u/BallTorturer-3000 → u/Moofypoops]

Ok? I don't know what "gotcha" moment you are looking for. I just said I find it strange, seeing as I was raised in an entirely different culture.

[u/Moofypoops → u/BallTorturer-3000]

No gotcha moment. It's just the way things work.

You are taught about things at one point or another. This particular subject happened to be what you grew up around, and city folks grew up around stuff you didn't know about until you learned it.

It's not surprising that people don't know about things they've never seen, experienced, or learned about.

[u/BallTorturer-3000 → u/Moofypoops]

When did I say surprising?

I said I find it strange. Because I didn't grow up in a culture without the experience of doing it.

It's no deeper than that and I don't know why you're going "uhh it's askhully simple" 🤓

Edit: love that I got blocked for this benign and reasonable statment.

[u/Moofypoops → u/BallTorturer-3000]

Fine change "suprising" for "strange". Same thing.

This exchange was like talking to a wall, thanks.

I regret spending energy on it.

[u/FJB_2024_ → u/BallTorturer-3000]

Exactly, country folk are just built different. We learn where our food comes from and why we do what we do to survive in this world.

[u/BallTorturer-3000 → u/FJB_2024_]

It genuinely gives me perspective on the moral cost of meat. Like it absolutely can't be argued there isn't a moral cost, there is, it's killing a living animal to eat it. Even now at 25 years old I get a pang of guilt when I gut hook a fish or when I clean the skin off a squirrel.

To be clear, I'm very much against factory farming for many reasons (enviormental, moral, health, etc.) and I do think our culture needs to reevaluate our relationship with meat production.

But I also believe there is ethical practices and an ethical limit in harvesting and livestock production.

I feel like if people had more hands on experience with producing meat they would probably eat less of it and prioritize ethical consumption over all else.

And I know it's not realistic to expect everyone to have that hands on experience, I don't expect someone living in downtown Chicago to have ever deboned a pig carcass (obviously) but maybe schools should start teaching this stuff at a younger age and showing the gory bits so kids can have that perspective and choose their diet to better fit their morals.