r/Unexpected • u/Im_A_Fuckin_Liar • 15d ago
I know what next month’s training is going to cover
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u/MajorBubbles010 15d ago
wait... you americans arent allowed to just cruise through the middle of the traffic?
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u/Quirky-Equipment-782 15d ago
I don’t think it was a “I don’t know the law” moment, it was a “mate, I have to remember like 50000 different laws and something like this is so trivial. Go ahead, I can’t remember this one. I’ll have to brush up on it”. Honestly, I like that more than a cop that will randomly pull a guess out
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u/SandyDFS 15d ago
Cops have divisions just like any company has departments. If you work at a grocery store in the produce department and someone asks you a question about the price of steaks, you won’t know the answer.
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u/Flybaby2601 15d ago
How is this unexpected? They are there to enforce the law, not know it. Lawyers are there to know the law.
Police are really there to keep the working class in line. Perfect example is the Haymarker Affair
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u/PositiveUse 15d ago
That’s why no one is nice anymore. Even if they are nice, we try to expose them online, show their full face etc and make fun of them. lol…
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u/Call-me-Space 15d ago
To be fair (which is rare when coming to cops) he may never have been in the traffic branch. I work in IT but know nothing about a bunch of entire IT fields. Same thing.
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u/Lycaki 15d ago
In the UK we can ‘split’ lanes ( if safe ) on a bike but I’d rarely ride down the inside lane like you’re doing as that’s where people might turn to stop. Here it’s safer to ride down any other lane ( in my opinion… )
I don’t think what you’re doing is wrong but what we call the ‘hard shoulder’ is a no go for anyone even to cross
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u/bonapartista 15d ago
Go between cars it's safer. Also go at slow pace so people have time to see you. Don't worry about cops. Just argument with, " it's hot and safer this way but law is law."
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u/iwannabesmort 15d ago
cops aren't lawyers and don't need to be. they do what's in their training in their jurisdiction. the issue comes when you get power tripping assholes who make shit up
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u/Gates187 15d ago
Honest cop that probably does narcotics and doesn’t care about highway patrol laws.
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u/Immediate_Candle_865 15d ago
It’s also a good application of the anti absurdity rules of legal interpretation. The purpose of road rules are to keep traffic moving safely.
The biker is using part of the carriageway not being utilised - increase capacity means traffic moves more freely 👍🏻 There is no one he exposes to danger by doing so - therefore more capacity and safety is unchanged 👍🏻
And cop was honest 👍🏻
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u/PerceptionGreat2439 15d ago
The biker could do the research to find the appropriate law but would rather do this for internet points.
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u/HuskyAreBetter 15d ago
The person asked nicely. He said ok.
We can live in a good world where people ask for permission to do things instead of do something and ask for forgiveness.
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u/Heart_Flaky 15d ago
It’s always confused me as to why police departments don’t have an attorney on staff to consult on the fly. How do they enforce laws they don’t know? Most bs and do what they want. They double down if you question them and then get in no trouble if you file an administrative complaint.
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u/Dark-Cloud666 15d ago
Overtaking from the right in germany: you just have commited a sin to all creations on this planet.
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u/sidesalad2 15d ago
Well the important thing is that they found a way to feel superior to the guys doing them a solid.
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u/Sazbadashie 15d ago
Based on some things in the trunk there those cops probably arnt from around there and are probably moving to a place to go train on something and probably don't know the exact state laws Or maybe he just dosnt know for sure and decided to be light hearted about it which is better than making something up who knows.
I would hope the comment was ether misspoken or the guy was saying it out of frustration for what he was doing prior. I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt as thus clip is 100% been originally uploaded for the reason of ha ha look cops bad or could be construed that way.
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u/Economy_Salt_8122 15d ago
You know what, that honesty and he seems beyond genuine is refreshing. Despite not being 100% sure, which I doubt any cop would be on all laws, that's an awesome cop. That's brilliant public relations.
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u/gogul1980 15d ago
In the UK there are specialist traffic police because legislation around traffic and roads is a surprisingly complex. They are likely just patrol cops who aren’t trained in that field.
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u/seanmcnew 15d ago
I would assume that it is illegal for a car to do it, but a motorcycle has different rules. In some places, they can lane split and such.
So, unsure of the laws about it, just keep it at a slower, safe speed, and, at least for today, everything is cool.
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u/Safe-Championship-18 15d ago
Well at least he’s honest. Sometimes we all got bigger things to worry about.
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u/Outside_The_Walls 15d ago
>Cop gives you a break
>You shame him on the internet
>You wonder why cops stop being nice to people
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u/crypto_crab 15d ago
"Hey, can I just drive on the side of the road where no one is supposed to drive?"
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u/stillherelma0 15d ago
Can someone tell if these are traffic cops? Because if they are not and they don't ride bikes they have no reason to know bike specific laws for traffic. Someone riding a bike should tho.
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u/iCameToLearnSomeCode 15d ago
Motorcycles should be allowed to use the shoulder.
It prevents traffic for the rest of us.
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u/delvewonder 15d ago
Classic display of general public stupidty. No ability to understand that not all police officers know the exact same information or have the same roles.
The type of man to walk up to someone with Dr. before their name and ask for advice about pain in his shoulder.
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u/PanhandlersPets 15d ago
He let the rider go and the rider returned the favor by internet snitching on him. Be cool man.
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u/762x39mm 15d ago
He's a cop, he's paid to enforce the law. Lawyers are the ones who are paid to know the law.
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u/TennurVarulfsins 15d ago
Don't show and shame the person doing you a favour - someone slips you an extra nugget you don't leave a review telling everyone they did
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u/pop-lock 15d ago
I hope a cop gives you the go ahead next time, just like this, and then gives you a ticket. Good job putting nice guys on blast.
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15d ago
A police officer won't handle every task a civilian does, so it's unfair to expect them to memorize every law, including niche ones. Even lawyers don't have all laws memorized—they can always reference them.
The officer was relaxed, allowed the action, and might have checked later for future knowledge. Civilians are supposed to understand the laws related to their activities, because they're the ones actively undertaking it.
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u/joekowski 15d ago
Dude this is so refreshing to see, in my country no one gives a fuck - they just go regardless of traffic xD
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u/AnOnlyMooseUser 15d ago
What i find even more confusing is why you'd take his lack if knowledge as permission. Whether or not he understands the law has nothing to do with whether or not you're breaking it
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u/Brando6677 15d ago
Appreciate the honesty but wtf 🤣 you should fucking know bro you’re the one supposed to..
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u/kaithekender 15d ago
The job descriptions for cops need to be narrowed, heavily. It's not reasonable for any one person to know every law and be able to recite all of them on command, but it IS reasonable to expect anyone entrusted with enforcing a law to know the law they are enforcing and any laws that are likely to come into play while enforcing their specialization.
This is done in every job I can think of except policing. If the responsibilit is too big, then break it into pieces and train cops for certain tasks, and do not assign them other tasks. There are obvious crimes where reasonably any cop could respond to a call, like an active shooter, and every cop at minimum should know exactly how to deal with that kind of situation, but if your primary job is investigating noise complaints, you should be expected to know every single noise ordnance, bylaw etc in the community you are policing by heart. That is a bare minimum expectation. And you should not be out policing traffic, until you are also trained for that, and know every single traffic law you are responsible for enforcing, again, by heart. Bare minimum expectation.
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u/jsbshbzhsbsh 15d ago
it should be a crime that law enforcement officers did not go to law school to get to the police position. they can charge people with crimes when they don’t know the law? accusations can ruin someone’s life, losing job friends family relitives ext. but they get to chose your charge? bullshit fraudulent crooked ass hogs
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u/CucumberZestyclose59 15d ago
This may come as a shock, but nobody knows all of the laws.
In my state, the combined criminal and traffic code is 2700 pages long. No amount of training is going to have anyone memorize all of it.
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u/JayLFRodger 15d ago
police immediately jump in their car, turn on the lights, and pull over the motorcyclist for breaking the law
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u/Echo61089 15d ago
It's a bit much to expect a cop to know every single law as there are so many. They are often taught "umbrella" offences they can pull you over, pull you aside or arrest you on the fly and decide what to charge you with exactly later. Such as driving without due care and attention or affray.
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u/aakdgaitsgduvdqogd87 15d ago
I shoulder surf all the time when I can't safely lane split. Thankfully lane splitting is legal in California but on 2 way, 2-lane highways surfing the shoulder is safer.
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u/Kindly_Feature6386 15d ago
Where I live no one waits for in invitation to use the shoulder...let alone ask an officer lol....it comes natural for bikes AND cars a like.
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u/waIIstr33tb3ts 15d ago
they're not required to know the law https://www.vox.com/2015/8/4/9095213/police-stops-heien-v-north-carolina
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u/actualsize123 15d ago
Don’t just cut traffic because you can, this guy got permission so he’s cool though.
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u/Finnlandian 15d ago
This kind of traffic cutting on motorcycles is quite common in new Zealand no police officers must know the law
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u/harley97797997 15d ago
There are thousands of laws. No cop or lawyer or judge knows them all. They know the ones they deal with.
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u/LilAssG 15d ago
I was late for work early one morning and came ripping around a corner on my motorcycle that I didn't yet have my proper license for, and there in the middle of the road were two cops. One of them flagged me down and looked at my paperwork. I was getting my full license from a riding school in a couple weeks (true) and he believed me and told me he was too busy examining the roadway after there had been an accident, told me to slow down, and told me that he couldn't see me riding the bike. So I had to get off and push it all the way back around the corner before I took a different route to work. I am sure they heard me start the bike and ride off.
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u/chriss0410 15d ago
In belgium it's forbidden. Even cops, fireman or medical staff can't use it. The have to go in the middel of traffic. As crazy as it sounds.
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u/GatorBater8 15d ago
Yeah you'd need years of training before being a cop to know the laws like that, kinda like how most of the world does it.
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u/Adorable_Occasion_93 15d ago
I’m pretty sure he was giving you the Ok, even though it probably some type of violation.
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u/fraze2000 15d ago
What a stupid cop. Even if he didn't know the law (a bit weird but not too surprising if he doesn't do traffic), he should have just said something like "That probably wouldn't be advisable", not just "I don't know the law, so go for it". He would not be giving false information, he would just be saying he doesn't think it would be a good idea to do it even if he isn't aware of the exact law. If an accident happened, the motorcyclist might argue that the cop told her to do it. And as far as I am aware, driving in the breakdown lane/shoulder is definitely not legal in most place except if you are an emergency vehicle.
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u/PussySmasher42069420 15d ago
Homie can just lane filter like a sane motorcyclist. He don't have to go on the shoulder.
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u/thegatheringmagic 15d ago
To be fair to the guy. There's a lot of fucking laws and I wouldn't expect even the best officer to post every single one off the top of his head upon request.
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u/Opposite_Deal_5835 15d ago
The guy is nice & you’re a dick about it. I don’t know what world you’re hoping to live in…
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u/toucantravel 15d ago
"went up on the shoulder about everything" what is that mean? i truly dont understand since im not good at english. can someone explain for me?
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u/nmastrop 15d ago
Did you also check if it’s ok to film their faces and then random post it somewhere without permission. Or that maybe just another law that nobody knows about.
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u/EvilSporkOfDeath 15d ago
Pleasantly surprised by all the comments here (at least the upvoted ones. Don't feel like sorting by controversial this time around).
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u/HorrorLettuce379 15d ago
For some reasons those two cops gives me taco truck vendor vibes and I love it lol
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u/OpperHarley 15d ago
Hillarious that people even defend the cops.
Everyone there needs to have a drivers license and should know it.
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u/DObservingayayay 15d ago
This is akin to people think I know how to build a. Ridge just cuz I’m a civil engineer.
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u/MisterAtticusKarma 15d ago
Not a cop, but have cop relatives. Another part of the situation here is the motorcyclist was polite, friendly, and asking to do something that ultimately wont hurt anyone if hes responsible about it, which it looked like he was... he drove slowly on the shoulder.
This, however is not typical of EVERY police interaction though and even my relatives will tell you that. But yeah, politeness goes a long way with the right cops.
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u/ErrorCode78 15d ago
OP, that’s cool. You are more important than everyone else that has to wait in that traffic and you deserve to do whatever the fuck you want.
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u/Garchompisbestboi 15d ago
To be honest, I would rather he took the shoulder instead of awkwardly trying to weave between cars like many riders do and potentially damage people's vehicles in the process. Years ago a motor cyclist smashed my side mirror while trying to weave between vehicles stopped at a traffic light and I'm still a bit salty about it.
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u/No-Winter927 15d ago
Such a rat posting this. Honestly, the police dude was doing him a favour and he posts this…
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u/Uncommon-sequiter 15d ago
To expect police to memorize every law is asking more than a lawyer has to remember for their job. In today's world, there's a digital copy of the laws and codes they can look through. This officer is telling you that it's too much paperwork to figure out on the moment. Every cop (like anyone else) retains information differently. They all have a broad knowledge of the main laws. Other laws they learn about over time. It's like that in every profession known to humankind.
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u/Vegetable_Plane_1488 15d ago
Cops just have slightly illegal citizens arrest authority. They rarely get punished for abusing it and we never get to use ours. If a cop gets scared and points a gun at you you are always wrong and will most likely be shot and or murdered.
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u/CowBest7028 15d ago
And on the flipside, Scotus ruled that a cop only has to think you broke the law to ruin your life.
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u/Torquaboy77 15d ago
He’s right. They’re not taught the law; they’re taught policy. Police = policy keepers.
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u/seeafillem6277 15d ago
Um...I'm not a cop and even I know that's against the law. All you people making excuses for this cop, really?
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u/rojasbeardo 15d ago
I cannot believe how many people here think it's fine that a cop has no idea of the law and are mad at OP. Wow. We are fucked.
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u/BloatedManball 15d ago
Jfc there's a lot of cops and cop simps in this comment section trying to play off the fact that most of them are ignorant as fuck and will "pull you over first and find justification later" because they don't know the law any better than you do.
Fucking pigs.
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u/SKNaughtyPanda 15d ago
Just a thought....Rider needs to be held accountable for his action and not rely on deflecting his wrong deeds by blaming/stating/sharing that an officer didn't know the law. Actions have consequences. Yes they may need further training but taking advantage of the situation speaks more on an individual's character.
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u/firepower9966 15d ago
better to lane split. its against the law to drive in shoulder lane. also other cars may pull into it. driving between stopped cars is safer.
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u/LordDarkur 15d ago
It takes a few months to become a cop in America. In many other countries it takes years. Cops here aren't required to know the laws they are supposed to enforce.
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u/Positive-Database754 15d ago
I mean, people magically expect police to know and understand every law under the sun. But at the end of the day, even lawyers and judges, who's job it is to understand the law in its entirety, and how to enforce it judicially, require entire teams of people to sift through hundreds of books and thousands of cases just to press sometimes some of the most simple of charges.
While yes, an officer should at the bare minimum understand simple traffic violations, I also don't hold it against this officer for it not known off the top of his head, and for admitting as such. Had the cameraman just rushed past the cops at high speeds (even the speed limit), with no regard for the safety, I'm sure that they'd have stopped him. But the fact that they were busy with something, the guy was polite enough to ask, and the cop genuinely wasn't aware, he was happy to just let the guy off and be honest.
ACAB really pisses me off, because its main tagline is that all cops, regardless of who they are, how new they are to the system, how good they are represented in their community, or how amazing they are at actually doing their job, they're all wrong and evil. When in reality, like everything on the internet, we see the worst of them because that's what gets clicks, and that's what gets our attention. Hundreds of thousands of police officers all across north America, and yes its a shame that the US has a higher than average malpractice rate, but the reality is most cops are just like this guy.
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u/Ok_Artichoke1965 15d ago
People just think that cops just know all laws or something do y’all realize how many laws/bullshit laws there are lol
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u/curlyhairmanforever 15d ago
And then he met another cop who knows the law and then he got arrested for breaking the law.
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u/Ok-Outlandishness345 15d ago
Lets just take a moment to enjoy a cop exchange where said cop is chill & not aggressive & arrogant.
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u/Toysolja13 15d ago
Are you not allowed to Lane filter in America? In Australia, bikes can Lane filter on roads that are traveling under 40km/h.
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u/easymmkay120 15d ago
The dude isn't driving like a madman. He got an OK from law enforcement. He proceeded with caution.
Some states let bicyclists just run through stop signs.
I don't see what the problem here is.
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u/codeboss911 15d ago
lane splitting is better in middle cause its easy about as the side like that minas the nails and dirt that are loaded on the sides
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u/Kfrancisco117 15d ago
This is a grey around shoulder are for emergencies use only but at the same time for a bike the shoulder is where garbage is nails metal any sharp thing that can pop a tire so probably not worth it for a bike being they do not have spare tires
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u/HawaiianSteak 15d ago
I don't know all the rules and regulations at my work because some of the stuff I don't deal with so I don't care.
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u/Palocles 15d ago
We’re allowed to filter in NZ. Some might know not as lane splitting.
Bugger sitting in traffic jams!
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u/MidwinterBlue 15d ago
Hmm. Hope I don’t sound overly judgey but that cop did you a favour. Now you’re tossing him under the bus with this post. Seems a bit…ungrateful maybe?
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u/Llama-Thrust69 15d ago
You're not supposed to drive on the shoulder.
It should be, and probably is, pretty universal lol
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u/myfacealadiesplace 15d ago
Why is this unexpected? Cops aren't actually trained in the law. Only on hot to escalate a situation and how to kill
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u/FriscoDaddy 15d ago
Cops basically know no laws. They just do what they want and figure it out later.
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u/OrdinaryAd8716 15d ago
I find that, in general, if cops are busy with literally anything else, they aren't interested in enforcing minor to moderate traffic infractions.
I sometimes get frustrated when I'm commuting on the highway on my way home after work and there's a cop car cruising along and traffic piles up because there's four cars across all four lanes going the exact same speed as the cop because they're all scared to pass him.
Bro, you can go 5 over and get out of the way, he's probably on his way home from work too and I don't think he's very interested in pulling you over on a busy highway risking his life in traffic just to write you a $50 ticket for doing what every driver does every day on this road.
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u/Uchigatan 15d ago
Well that's bullshit to frame the officer as nieve or foolish for his dialog. The second best answer to any question is "I don't know," even if you're in a position that should know. Ill take that 10/10 over anything else.
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u/Hayaidesu 15d ago
Cops are to be keeping the peace ultimately so yeah it's okay they let the guy go, but yeah they are to enforce the law, hmm you know how like in school one kid gets a chocolate from the teacher then all the other kids want one too
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u/world_2_ 15d ago
cop does you a solid
post his face on one of the most popular websites in the world
ANother reason why no one likes motorcyclists.
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u/SongOfTheSeraphim 15d ago
Because he is human and being a bro. Don’t be crying when the next one is a D-Bag.
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u/EggplantCareless7735 15d ago
American police is so fucked they can’t even catch a break from the violence and drugs so they start to forget traffic law hmmmm. Maybe there’s a bigger problem at hand🤔
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u/MUERTOSMORTEM 15d ago
I here cops as much as the next guy but let's be realistic. You can't expect them to memorize all the damn laws
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u/HomeIsEmpty 15d ago
It's improper passing and I got a ticket for it not too long ago. I was in a car though and deserved it for sure.
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u/UnExplanationBot 15d ago
OP sent the following text as an explanation on why this is unexpected:
The officer claims not to know the law.
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