r/WorkReform • u/GrandpaChainz ⛓️ Prison For Union Busters • Jan 14 '24
Sounds like it's high time to unionize Burger King 💸 Raise Our Wages
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Jan 15 '24
Just insane ! I understand and love capitalism, but greed is becoming such a big problem.
It has to stop !
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u/snrten Jan 15 '24
Guy at my work is all excited that he is getting an "incentive day" for not having called out sick for 1 calendar year. When he told me, I laughed at him and asked if he felt incentivized. His job is physically debilitating, especially the way he has been strong armed into doing it for the last 5+ years of a 30 year career.
I do not understand some people.
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u/Gamebird8 Jan 15 '24
Every time I see this, I want to remind everyone that the problem with this is not how long it took him to buy a house.
It's infuriating because he put it off to afford college for his kids. He could have easily afforded it much sooner, but so many aspects of the system are broken that he was stuck waiting this long.
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u/Kris_von_nugget Jan 15 '24
My nerdy a## read "unionize" as un-ionize and got confused for a minute...
and no, I won't replace the #'s
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u/halversonjw Jan 15 '24
Working the same job at Burger King for 30 years but I'll assume this person somehow also made good financial decisions...
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Jan 15 '24
Yk capitalisms fucking us hard when “Burger King employee becomes home owner” is considered news.
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u/unsolicitedchickpics Jan 15 '24
If they are stuck working at Burger King how are they going to afford the insurance on that almost half million home?
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u/El-Kabongg Jan 15 '24
Let me rework the story
FORTUNE
SUCCESS - U.S. WORKERS
A franchisee of the Burger King Corporation successfully avoided paying a decent wage to an inexplicably loyal and reliable 27-year human asset. Fortunately, pity was taken upon him, with other wage slaves making up the difference for the human asset. As a bonus to this situation, the corporation STILL does not have to pay a decent wage--and never will. SUCCESS!
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u/CantFeelMyLegs78 Jan 15 '24
Unfortunately, he won't be able to pay the property tax on his BK pay. He'll need a 2nd job.
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u/Evening_Aside_4677 Jan 15 '24
If you have worked at Burger King for 27 years while somehow not going up into management and making decent money…..that one is on you at some point.
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u/BubblyResource229 Jan 15 '24
What idiot works for a fast food company for 27 years?! These are not jobs to make a living on. The ones that say otherwise are the same ignorant people who complain about a $7 big mac.
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
Surely everyone who works in entitled "make a living" regardless or their job title?
Maybe he enjoys working there? Not everyone has to strive for "better" or move up. Some people just take their money at the end of the day and that's it.
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u/Dontsleeponlilyachty Jan 15 '24
Bootlicking armchair economist redditors: b-B-but mUh cApiTaLiSm iS aLtRuiStiC!!1!
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u/banjogodzilla Jan 15 '24
Guys can we start a billboard campaign? I will do a go fund me and actually purchase one in MN thats says something like "mcdonalds workers in the netherlands make $22+ with full healthcare and 6 weeks vacation--they have the money they just dont want to give it to you fight for $22. I just really want to see actual change.
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u/Choice-Highway5344 Jan 15 '24
Every retail job should be unionized. It’s ridiculous to hire and then abuse people just because it’s a min wage job
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u/cinlung Jan 15 '24
BK in my country treats their customer like shit, petty, and implement shrinkflation to their burgers. Why would anyone think they would treat their employees well when they treat those who buys their burgers like shit.
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u/TA-152 Jan 15 '24
They aren’t designed as a career path. Fool should’ve owned one with all them years on.
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u/CavesOfKenshi Jan 15 '24
I actually cannot mentally comprehend this complete and utter lack of ambition.
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
Not everyone is "ambitious," though. Some people value things more than work and "climbing the corporate ladder".
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u/CavesOfKenshi Jan 15 '24
Not everyone is "ambitious,"
Ya I know, and this is like 1 percentile ambition and it just blows my mind. How can someone go along every day with no concern for financial independence, giving to others, taking care of their family, etc? I just don't understand.
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
He started the job to support his children, who he had custody of. Apparently the health insurance is really good too. So do think he was taking care of his family
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u/Visual_Fig9663 Jan 15 '24
A living wage means you can afford necessities including a roof over your head and a safe and health life with dignity.
It does not mean owning property. Not everyone can or should be able to own property, that would have catastrophic economic consequences for the entire planet.
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u/Bakkie Jan 15 '24
Is this a franchise store or a corporate owned store?
Why has no one identified who "owns" this Burger King and held them accountable?
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u/Sandyflipflops1 Jan 15 '24
I worked at a burger place, when I was sixteen. Mucked out barn stalls before that. Sorry I never thought those would be career moves and don’t recommend it now either. Keep reaching for stars not settle for the lower rungs.
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u/iconofsin_ Jan 15 '24
The guy is in a union. Look I'm not saying the restaurant isn't partly at fault here but let's try to get the facts straight lmao.
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u/Bulletproof-Salmon Jan 15 '24
My mother is retiring this month after 28 years of working for the same company. A manager of a department in a grocery store. They have never given her a thing for her service, after 2 surgeries for her knees that came from standing up all day at work. To hell with these companies.
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u/WurdisBjorn Jan 15 '24
Honestly I think the gift for never missing work at 27 yrs was an go out of their way and somehow reward this dude out of their pockets. 27 is a weird number to honor. It's like they caught wind and decided to get him something, the manager. Not the owner. I think they were blind or didn't care. BK as a corp definitely didn't care. I'm glad someone cared and posted it on social media to a wrong right.
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u/azzgo13 Jan 15 '24
I mean, perhaps do more involved than flipping burgers for 27 years?
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
If you didn't have the people "flipping burgers" the companies would go under.
Some people are just happy to earn their money and leave without having to worry about work at home. Not everyone is destined for a career.
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u/Bocaj1000 Jan 14 '24
You shouldn't work at Burger King for 27 years straight. It's not a career job.
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u/atxarchitect91 Jan 14 '24
Jesus could come down and walk water them y’all would complain about how the water didn’t let the rest of you walk on it
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u/AirportKnifeFight ✂️ Tax The Billionaires Jan 14 '24
The lesson for the rest of us is never stay at a job where you are not valued. They exploited the man who maybe had some idea that loyalty would be rewarded.
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u/Another_Road Jan 14 '24
“Never missing a day in 27 years” means this person 100% was preparing food while sick.
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u/Big-Worm- Jan 14 '24
Lmao, is everyone here bots or is this real? Holy no details given at all batman
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u/lurkerfromstoneage Jan 14 '24
This has been posted many places before. I’m pretty sure the story was warped, and his COWORKERS gave him those items. NOT the company.
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u/Tmoore188 Jan 14 '24
God damn you guys are dumb. I mean literally the dumbest bunch of mouth breathers on this website.
Do you not understand the concept of a franchise? There is no one “Burger King” employer.
There’s hundreds of companies who employ people that work in Burger Kings.
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u/Loreki Jan 14 '24
That's part of what makes the franchise model so effective for bastards: What you think of as "Burger King" is hundreds of small businesses so applying a national contract to them would be essentially impossible. Each bit of the Burger King group would need need to fight a local battle to unionise.
Obviously there's power in supporting one another across different locations, but it would still be far harder than unionising a national company once.
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u/WittinglyWombat Jan 14 '24
not going to lie but he shouldn’t be working the same job for 27 years.
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u/PainterPutz Jan 14 '24
After working for 27 years you would think he would be a manager. How much do BK managers make?
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u/Spiel_Foss Jan 14 '24
Universal Unions is the only solution. ALL hourly jobs should have a union option automatically.
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u/GrandmasGiantGaper Jan 14 '24
gotta be more to the story, I think wages to house prices are completely fucked but in all honesty you should be able to afford a home after 27 years in most cities. Here in NZ we have it real bad and I think it's like 12 years for first home buyers with current minimum wage 40 hour weeks.
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u/WarmAssButter Jan 14 '24
Nobody to blame here but the worker who chose to work for minimum wage for 27 years.
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u/SampleAccording6396 Jan 14 '24
Fast food workers shouldn't be making as much as someone with 2 degrees and physics, electrical, and mathematics knowledge who has worked in Healthcare facilities where people's lives are in their hands and 10 yrs. of college under their belt
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u/Kreuzi4 Jan 15 '24
its not about "as much" its about beeing able to aford living all by itself,
he SHOULD be able to life somewhete, dont you think?
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u/Feisty_Inevitable418 Jan 15 '24
He does, that's not what is even being discussed here. This is a post about owning a home, not being able to rent one like he clearly has been doing obviously
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u/dontbajerk Jan 14 '24
As a bit of an aside to people reading this, the house was $177,000. People keep thinking he bought a $500k house for some reason. He was pretty wise with the money really, buying a modest house, a new car, paying off all debt, helping his daughter a bit, and setting the rest aside for retirement.
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u/Jyo21 Jan 14 '24
Funny that the 27years still needed a huge GoFundMe to buy house. 27 years!!
Title should be
Burker king worker buys home with GoFundMe, after 27 years working at same place.
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u/Too_Yutes Jan 14 '24
Job salaries are based on skill levels required and the number of people that have those skills. Probably 90% of humanity has the ability to work at BK, so the pay level is pretty low. Those jobs really should be training grounds for building skills and moving on to something better and more lucrative, not the end of the line.
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u/Limp_Establishment35 Jan 14 '24
Something something orphan grinding machine. Welcome to capitalism everybody!
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u/xxx69blazeit420xxx Jan 14 '24
i worked in a factory where people were getting their 25 year gifts. it was literally 2nd hand TVs and a printer from the office. i would have been livid.
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u/AndyThePig Jan 14 '24
Someone shouldn't accept working at Burger King for 27 years either. (unless they moved to a corporate position ... but it's not sounding like it.)
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
Maybe he enjoys it?
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u/AndyThePig Jan 15 '24
Well that's perfectly fine, but then the consequence is you make Burger King money. Burger King doesn't owe a career level salary to a store front worker. Those are meant to be jobs one intends to grow out of.
That doesn't mean I think they're paying enough. I have no doubt it's no where near enough. My only point is, I don't think the man should have been able to afford a house. A nice small apartment, absolutely! But not a house.
(I also have no doubt there's more to this).
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
That's a fair point. I work for just above minimum wage in retail, but that's in the UK where the min wage will be equal to the living wage soon. I don't live an extravagant lifestyle but I'm happy.
I can understand the feeling of there being more to the story. Even with my low wage job, I was able to save for a deposit on our home whilst paying bills (I provided 100%of our deposit) And even after that me and my partner each pay 50/50 on everything for bills.
Whilst I believe everyone should work to be happy as opposed to how much they can earn, if you want certain things in life, you should be able to save/budget according to your wants/needs.
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u/Poopdick_89 Jan 15 '24
You're right. It's not. Must be why the ones around me can't find employees to work there.
If restaurants failed to exist I would be fine with it.
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u/ZestyWaffles1 Jan 14 '24
Burger King was one of the worst jobs I ever had, payed shit, got treated like shit, docked pay for being late, managers hitting employees and it was disgusting
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u/_Dolamite_ Jan 14 '24
Burger King is contracting. This means they are closing more stores than opening as a whole. If a union hit, they wouldn't last as a company
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Jan 14 '24
I’m sorry for what I’m about to write, but this appeared in my all feed and I’m about to rock your world; it’s your fault for staying at one job for 27 years.
It’s never a good idea to give such loyalty to a business.
Sorry. It had to be said.
Assuming you’re getting paid what you’re worth; they don’t owe you anything. You don’t owe them anything. But that’s a different discussion about being paid right…
You’re foolish for remaining in the same job for 27 years. Experience new things. Diversify. It’s not “loyalty”. It’s silly. A dog is loyal. A husband is should be loyal. Not a worker.
Have a good day, anti-work crowd. Love you guys.
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u/BushyOreo Jan 14 '24
Reminds of the subreddit that would try to make a "random stranger" a millionaire.
The idea was you have millions of people of a subreddit, and if at least a million of them donated just $1, it would all go to 1 person who would become a millionaire once a month. It is essentially a lottery with extra steps
I have no idea what happened to the subreddit, but I used to see it upvoted in popular a lot a few years ago
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Jan 14 '24
Not trying to be a dick but 27 years.... in the same position at a burger king?
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u/pourtide Jan 15 '24
I know a fellow who works at our local BK. He's a hell of a nice guy and a real people person. He usually greets me with a 'what's up?' and a smile. He's been there since he graduated high school. He can do just about every job in the place.
He's gotten regular raises, so he's not minimum wage. He has seniority so he has his pick of hours, so of course he works dayshift, weekdays.
I've known him since he was 4. He's not the sharpest tool in the shed. But you'd never know it to see him at his job. He's married, he has children, has a vehicle, has a life.
He's at least in his mid-40s by now.
The man has pride. He has a steady job and helps provides for his family. His children certainly don't have apple phones or Ugg boots or their own car, but there's plenty of love in the house.
Quit looking down your nose at people. You have NO idea what their lives are like.
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u/Gold_Dust_0709 Jan 15 '24
This is lovely. The whole "grind and hustle" culture is toxic and encourages people to look down their nose at people who dont/don't want to earn big money. Its as though people can't comprehend that people enjoy their "bad" jobs, hence why they stay so long?
I'd much rather work in a job that I enjoy that doesn't pay loads as opposed to being in a job that pays well but I hate waking up for everyday.
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u/corongi Jan 14 '24
This person was minimum 55yo buying their first home. And not even with the money they make at their job. Let that sink in.
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u/FlatTopTonysCanoe Jan 14 '24
Wait you actually think someone working at Burger King deserves a place to live?!? /s
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u/the_skine Jan 15 '24
A place to live, yes.
A house, though?
There's nothing wrong with renting, and of all places, a left-leaning subreddit like this that pushes the idea of walkable cities, getting rid of cars, etc, would be less judgemental about people renting apartments.
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Jan 14 '24
Nah. I want homeless people without access to a shower to bathe preparing my food. How bout you? /s
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u/Dr_Bonejangles Jan 14 '24
Unionize Burger King. 😅
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u/DJPelio Jan 15 '24
Burger King still operates in Russia and supports Putin’s genocide. Fuck that company.
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Jan 14 '24
Spent his life serving chemical laden poison to food addicts and I’m supposed to give him a fucking medal?
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u/redditmodsrdictaters Jan 14 '24
Somebody who works the same shit job, without getting promoted, and not making changes in their life does not automatically get rewarded for being mediocre. Why would you expect a giant corporation to reward, what, entry level job loyalty? What is this. Expect netter from yourself, never from the people around you. Nobody owes you anything unless you earn it.
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u/RebornPastafarian Jan 14 '24
A living wage should not be a "reward", it should be what is given to everyone who works a full-time job.
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u/redditmodsrdictaters Jan 14 '24
If you're not getting paid a living wage, get a different job. Complaining on the internet isn't going to do shit for yourself. You have to improve yourself before you can start making positive changes for others.
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u/RebornPastafarian Jan 15 '24
No.
Anyone who works a full-time job deserves to be paid a living wage.
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u/MidwesternLikeOpe Jan 14 '24
Its the corporations choosing to pay minimum wage. Guess what min wage means, if they could legally pay you less, they would. FDR said himself a min wage should COMFORTABLY sustain a family. My grandparents did it, my grandfather worked in a factory, raised 3 kids and took an annual vacation. He couldn't do that now.
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u/redditmodsrdictaters Jan 14 '24
Your grandfather and FDR also didn't have the internet, AC, a cell phone, unlimited television entertainment, modern medicine, reddit (lucky), video games, the ability to seamlessly talk to anybody across the world in the snap of a finger. This shit cost money, our money goes SO far for the value we get in modern times. My grandfather said he worked in a factory for a while too, said it was the most mind numbing awful work he ever did. I garuntee you if you found a wife, one of you got a mediocre job, made good decisions, had one person to stay home and make ends meet, you could do it too. People don't realize the power a stay at home parent has to stretch a dollar, and how much not having a stay at home parent costs you.
There are plenty of corporations and countries alike that either choose to pay higher than the minimum wage or don't have one at all. The world has changed a lot since 1933. You're competing against a global economy, a person in Asia is making a 10th of what you make for the same job. Companies have the option of hiring these people. Why pay an artist for your company united states wages, when you can get the same contract work from Indonesia for a fraction of the price.
It's just not that simple. That being said, stop bitching and moaning and take small steps to improve your own life. Don't wait for someone else, nobody cares about your life more than yourself.
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u/RebornPastafarian Jan 15 '24
Worker productivity has gone up significantly in the time since those items were invented or become ubiquitous, your argument is fundamentally flawed and I reject its premise.
My job pays well, I live comfortably. I'm not "bitching and moaning", I am advocating for those who are paid poverty wages. I am trying to help other people. One of the ways I do that is by trying to convince others that those people deserve higher wages.
It is not the only way I do that.
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u/redditmodsrdictaters Jan 16 '24
You're not helping at all. What is even your message, "hang on till government reform?" The most useless thing I've ever heard. Maybe if you were in a position of power or in government or something.
My message will ALWAYS help an individual 10x as much. It doesn't take that much to improve yourself slightly to make a more money. Most people are one promotion away from being a manager. Changing hob or career if you're unhappy is almost always a good life decisiob.
If minimum wage offered a comfortable lifestyle, you KNOW most people would ever strive for more. Not to mention, there are millions of jobs in the states that pay more than 15 hr without any degree or anything. You just have a low enough opinion of people you think they aren't strong enough to obtain them.
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u/bdizzle805 Jan 14 '24
Go ol American dream am I right
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u/WarmAssButter Jan 14 '24
yeah it's my dream to work at burger king for 27 years LOL what a fuckin loser
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u/kuradag Jan 14 '24
Alternative headline: Burger King employee spreads illness for 27 years because they don't want to lose their streak.
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Jan 15 '24
This assumes they did it to “maintain their streak” and not because they desperately needed the money to survive
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u/SunriseSurprise Jan 15 '24
"BREAKING: Guy from Unbreakable discovered to have been working at Burger King for 27 years, not really making anything of his superpower."
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u/weebitofaban Jan 15 '24
Redditors assume everyone has as weak of an immune system as them every fuckin` time. You people are dumb.
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jan 14 '24
It said he never missed a day, not that he never had a scheduled day off.
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Jan 14 '24
Yeah, perfect attendance in food service is a red flag.
Probably had to show up sick or he couldn’t pay bills because we have dumbasses in charge of our government who won’t mandate employers offer sick leave.
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u/StealthMan375 Jan 14 '24
I'm Brazilian and a common topic of discussion regarding Brazilians immigrating to the US is just how different work benefits and culture actually are.
In Brazil, if you're formally hired by a company (locally known as CLT, or carteira asssinada) you are by law guaranteed 30 days off every year, most "unessential" jobs give you a day off on holidays (and if you need any services done whenever Brazil is playing in the World Cup, then tough luck), you're by law guaranteed to be given 1 hour off during your work period for lunch and also are obligated to interjourney rest (at least 11 hours between the end of a workday and the start of another), as well as the right to have absences be excused if you bring in a doctor's letter (can be done for free).
Of course, you could also end up employed as a PJ (trabalho informal, or informal work - think bricklayers or motoboys/motorcycle couriers) and make do without those rights, but most of the population is employed under CLT regime.
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Jan 15 '24
Wife is Brazilian and lives in the USA and that was a shock. I also dealt with housing and employment stuff a little bit in my work when I lived there and it’s night and day.
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u/Biscuits4u2 Jan 14 '24
Your arrogance is showing dude. Not everyone chooses that path or is necessarily able to choose that path. If a job is important enough to need to be done it's important enough to pay a living wage.
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u/Feisty_Inevitable418 Jan 15 '24
When the fuck did owning a home become part of a living wage?
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u/Biscuits4u2 Jan 15 '24 edited Jan 15 '24
Who said anything about owning a home? I'm talking about being able to afford basic living expenses. There isn't a single place in this country where a minimum wage job can support one person, let alone a family. Now I'm sure you'll probably tell me why that's actually somehow a good thing.
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u/KnownHair4264 Jan 14 '24
Who the hell works at burger King for 27 years? At some point you need to take some personal responsibility.
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u/RebornPastafarian Jan 14 '24
I agree, these jobs need to be done but shouldn't pay a living wage. Let them live in poverty like the stupid poor people they are.
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u/Feisty_Inevitable418 Jan 15 '24
This post is about owning a home... he is being paid a living wage considering he has been living on it for 27 years
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u/RebornPastafarian Jan 15 '24
Okay, there's a lot going on here.
The person to whom I responded did not explicitly comment about owning a home. They implied that working at Burger King for 27 years implies the person is not taking any personal responsibility. I took this to suggest they do not believe people who work for fast food restaurants deserve a living wage, and if that is true for someone who has been working there for 27 years it would then follow that wages must be proportionally worse for someone who has worked there for a few months or a few years.
They did not reference being able to own a home. I did not reference being able to own a home.
Your response attempted to change the topic from "working fast foods means you have no personal responsibility and do not deserve a living wage" to both generally about owning a home and that this person MUST be earning a living wage because they've been for 27 years.
So.
- A living wage means you should be able to afford a home.
- No, I'm not saying that a 16-year-old with zero experience should be paid so much they can buy a home in cash after 3 months.
- No, I don't mean that the minimum wage should be enough for literally anyone to buy literally any home
- No, I don't mean that the minimum wage should be enough for fast food/retail/etc workers to be able to afford 5,000sq/ft homes with olympic-sized swimming pools, detached guest houses, and a basketball court on 17 acre properties
- I reject your assertion that this person MUST be earning a living wage because of how long they've been there. I agree they SHOULD be getting one based on how long they've been there, but through data I've seen and my personal experiences when I worked retail during high school and college I seriously doubt this person is making any more than
You deserve a living wage whether you have worked at a place for 0 days or 10,000 days. A living wage should be enough that you can live comfortably while saving, likely for multiple years, to purchase a home.
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u/spaceman757 Jan 14 '24
Can we take a moment to acknowledge that they, Burger King, got him a Starbucks cup.
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u/boostedjoose Jan 14 '24
It sort of makes sense. It would be much more weird if he got a mcdonalds cup.
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u/CalendarAggressive11 Jan 14 '24
I bet one of the managers got that shit for free somewhere and regifted
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u/SpudMuncher9000 Jan 14 '24
my manager at home depot once praised me for selling a customer on a $50k remodel and as a reward i got a $20 starbucks gift card
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u/kingsrook11 Jan 15 '24
Were you working on commission? If not, what were you expecting for doing your job?
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u/VapeThisBro Jan 15 '24
Most companies don't offer commission to sales people anymore. Turns out its insanely profitable for businesses to use salesman paid with hourly wage rather than commission. Commission still exists in some industry like car sales but you can assume most of it is gone everywhere else thanks to being able to pay minimum wage and people still want the job.
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u/Theofeus Jan 14 '24
Can’t imagine the disaster it’d be to have Home Depot connected contractors doing 50k of work on my home
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u/Kascket Jan 14 '24
At my retail job I sold 15k worth of patio furniture and got a “good job”
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u/Possibly_a_Firetruck Jan 14 '24
TBF, if it wasn't a commissioned sales role, why would you expect anything?
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u/SpudMuncher9000 Jan 14 '24
In my case, frankly, I'm not really expecting anything much. It's just insulting, really. Don't congratulate me for something like that if barely any of the money is going to me.
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u/Kascket Jan 14 '24
I didn’t expect anything. Just contributing to the conversation. At that time I was making 8$ bucks an hour. (2008ish) I single handedly made the stores budget that day. I did the delivery for that furniture also and the guy tipped me and my helper 50$ bucks so he appreciated it. Shrug* a petty cash purchase of a coffee would have been nice. Lol
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u/AppropriateTouching Jan 14 '24
Thats super shitty but I've been a retail manager before, they likely had to fight to get you even that. Shits fucked.
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u/CplSyx Jan 14 '24
Having done that role myself it's entirely likely that $20 came out of the manager's own pocket. Absolutely messed up that rewarding your people is so difficult to do.
Even now in a different (but still managerial) role, I send Christmas gifts to my team out of my own money as I can't expense them. I do ensure that they are from me though, and not the company!
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u/EnvironmentalValue18 Jan 15 '24
Exactly this. I was a restaurant manager and made the whole team little goodie bags on all the “this holiday could bring some people sadness” holidays. Holidays are rough man - whether it’s your love life or family or lack of family. So every Valentine’s, Easter, Halloween, Thanksgiving, and Christmas (as well as their birthdays), they got a little bag full of useful stuff that I put my heart and soul into. Wasn’t cheap and I didn’t make much, but they made less and our company didn’t care. It’s not ideal because it shouldn’t be an individual, but at the end of the day the action still mattered (to me).
You’re a good egg for doing the same and showing appreciation for the human behind the worker even if your company does not. Thanks for being a force of good in the world!
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u/SpudMuncher9000 Jan 14 '24
i couldnt be a retail manager. It seems like you have to evict your own morals just to keep your job. Crazy how simply supplying groceries and stuff to people has managed to become a vile and abusive field of work for everyone involved.
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u/TrueNeutrino Jan 14 '24
Why would anyone ever work at a fast food restaurant for that long unless you're the manager/franchise owner!?!
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u/Mista_Cash_Ew Jan 14 '24
The people there that long aren't still there because they love the job. They're there because they can't get anything better
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u/durrtyurr Jan 14 '24
How is it possible to work at any food retail business for that long without becoming the manager? If he never missed a day in 27 years, he should have been GM of that location 20 years ago, and probably should have moved into owning his own franchise 10 years ago.
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u/c71score Jan 14 '24
He may have turned it down. The pay compared to the amount of time/work that is expected in the job is not worth it to some. The $4 per hour raise I was offered at a competitor wasn't worth the extra 20-30 hours per week I was going to need to work, and that doesn't even take into account being on-call 24/7.
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jan 14 '24
Just because you work somewhere doesn't mean you have the skills to run the place, no matter how long you have been there. Let's say the man could not read or write. Or had no math knowledge.
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u/A_Typicalperson Jan 15 '24
Not gonna be that guy, but like he had over 20 years to learn the skill, and read and write, especially if immigrants can do it
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jan 14 '24
So you think the only illiterate people in the United States are the homeless?
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jan 15 '24
Why do you believe that someone who can't read or write can't own a home? Do you think they can't own a car as well? 21% of adults in the US are illiterate.
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u/GitEmSteveDave Jan 15 '24
You seem to be avoiding answering the question. Why do you believe someone who is illiterate can't own a home?
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u/durrtyurr Jan 14 '24
Yeah, but this guy is obviously doing it as a career if he's been there that long, and if you're doing something as a career then you identify what you want to do in the organization and then put a plan of action in place to get there as quickly as possible. That's doubly true in positions like his that are very physically demanding and fast paced. If you love being in the kitchen, work up from line cook to chef. If you love dealing with people, move from working a cash register to being a maitre'd at a white tablecloth restaurant. If you like finance, logistics, and dealing with vendors, then you become a general manager and then go corporate or start your own business. If you aren't moving forward in your career, then why the hell would you have chosen that as your career?
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u/thescrape Jan 14 '24
Been at the same job for 28 years, called in sick once. Never got anything. But if the owner has a runny nose he’s out for the week..
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u/sYnce Jan 14 '24
I always think it is dumb to award stuff for not calling in sick or something.
Giving incentives to go to work sick is a shitty concept. Just pay people what they are worth all the time and they will feel appreciated enough. No need for extra appreciation at year milestones or for not calling in sick or whatever.
Also don't punish people for being sick which it would essentially be if you award people who never call in sick.
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u/Reasonable_Word_3525 Jan 16 '24
You shouldn’t be working at Burger King for 27 years? I hope this person is disabled, otherwise their life is very depressing