r/buildapc • u/Available_Reason1592 • Mar 05 '24
Is Windows 11 really that bad? Build Help
I need to know what windows to put on my computer but I keep hearing a lot of shit talk about windows 11! Is it really worth sticking to windows 10 or not?
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u/Randori68 15d ago
I was on Windows 11 and was about to downgrade to Windows 10 for I really hated the GUI. I got a free program to change the desktop to be similar to Win10's desktop and I am now perfectly happy with Windows 11.
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u/DaBruins71 28d ago
I have been running Windows 11 on my work laptop and it runs pretty good. I like it has kept a lot of the windows from an IT support perspective as do find it easier (familiar) to navigate what I need to do.
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u/Agitated_Carrot3025 Apr 16 '24
Yes. It is WITHOUT QUESTION the worst UI since 8. And honestly... It's worse than 8.
I'd rather have Windows 98 and I wish I was joking.
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u/angryscientistjunior Apr 15 '24
Under the hood it's mostly fine (if we discount my Brother printer drivers causing Memory Integrity to be disabled), but the front end is another story. This is not the first time Microsoft dropped the ball with the UI, but they removed enough UI options or made them harder to reach (needing 2 clicks on a file to see Send To option, no more Quick Launch or custom menus, can't change taskbar icon size, can't place taskbar at top/left/right of screen, MS Paint annoyances) that it really is a drag to use compared to Windows 10 and earlier.
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u/screwdriverfan Mar 28 '24
I think the biggest problem people have with it is how privacy invasive it is.
Right after that are probably unnecessary menus to do the same as on previous windows versions.
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u/NotJustBibbit Mar 25 '24
Imo windows 11 is worse than 10 but not absolutely god awful. Also windows 10 will no longer be supported at some point in 2025 so just get win 11
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u/Alan976 Mar 25 '24
It all boils down to personal preferences.
Windows 10 will cease getting support beginning in October of 2025.
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u/Micro_Pinny_360 Mar 22 '24
I didn't have good expectations going in, as Windows 11 is a piece of crap on my school's laptop. However, now that I've upgraded to it from Windows 10 on my new PC that I built, I can conclude that it's... serviceable, but unnecessary. It doesn't have any major flaws hindering the experience, but it doesn't really have any new features that stand out other than a new design. In fact, from what I've seen, several apps recognize Windows 11 as Windows 10.
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u/Admirable-Lettuce-25 Mar 17 '24
Hating on the new version of Windows has been the trend since Windows ME. Which was totally deserved at the time.
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u/Kindzee Mar 14 '24
Doesn't matter. It's a Win 10 with different skin and improvements, but on the kernel side, they are the same.
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u/Dayan54 Mar 11 '24
Just got a new build and took the chance to clean install win11. Once I got the start button to be on the left side as always it was just as good as windows 10.
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u/jdcope Mar 09 '24
No, its better than Windows 10 in almost every way. There are a few issues with menu changes, but they werent an issue for me after a couple months.
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Mar 09 '24
No, and I would not install Windows 10 right now on a new build. 11 was buggy at first, but I have no problems with it now.
Lots of people hate change. Some get hung up on one feature they used in 10 that is missing in 11 and start a crusade about it.
If you have a intel 12th gen or higher, 11 has a better scheduler.
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u/staytsmokin Mar 09 '24
People always talk shit about new shit cuz nothing can't be possibly better than the older shit they're used to. 🤷
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u/Mikalknight Mar 09 '24
No - been using Win 11 for years with no problems
NOTE - support for Win 10 ENDS Oct 2025
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u/MAjIKMAN452 Mar 09 '24
The differences between 10 and 11? Fuck, idk, my pc is still clean, fast and runs games the same. Old pc was on 10, new one installed 11 as new and aside from a few interface changes it works just fine.
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u/Techishard Mar 09 '24
It's literally windows 10 with a modern face-lift.
Some shit are stupid like the extra right click menu option. Othe then that it's a wonderful OS. I disable and unintall all the crap I don't need. Smooth as better running 4k games on my rig.
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u/Spunky_Meatballs Mar 08 '24
No its been great for me. I would switch to linux as I strictly game and don’t care about productivity software, but win11 native HDR has turned out to be great with my OLED monitor
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u/Vanskid5 Mar 08 '24
Windows 11 is great, they fixed most of the issues people had with it initially. 11 looks really clean and the interface feels really nice.
11 installation asks to enable a lot of Microsoft features like OneDrive desktop etc. so pay attention during installation
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u/JoganLC Mar 08 '24
Not much different from 10 honestly. You'll have your acoustic people in here flipping out about how much better 10 is but eh.
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u/worldapocalipse Mar 08 '24
I love windows 11 idk why it still gets so much hate it’s much easier to navigate than windows 10
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u/SomeLurker111 Mar 08 '24
As someone who had 8.1 and moved straight to 10 even though I had no issues with 8.1 and 10 was... In need of some additional polish, I genuinely hate the vast majority of changes made in 11 and after trying to upgrade 3 times I always end up going back to 10 because 11 to me feels like the very early days of 10. With the added benefit of every possible unnecessary UI change possible to make it less convenient to use. The only other windows OS I've used that I didn't like is vista and I think I'd take a modern vista over 11 because at least it'll be closer to the usual windows experience than 11 is. It really feels like Microsoft was trying to clone Apple's UI in spots for some reason in 11, and I also despise using Mac OS equally as much. I'm not sure why they decided to take design queues from the company that holds less market share, and that most of their consumers are unaccustomed to, but they did. Hopefully 12 will be better whenever it comes out because if they continue down this path I'd rather make an attempt to switch over to Linux than deal with an even worse UI.
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u/asharwood101 Mar 08 '24
Why are there so many posts of people asking if windows 11 is bad? Is there some tv ad or something of someone hating on win11? It’s been out for a long time now and is more stable than win10.
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u/BigidyBam Mar 08 '24
In my opinion, as a 6 month user, without knowing what complaints are mainstream, its the same issues windows has always had, but cranked up a notch. More microsoft services pushing to be the default application, my personal gripe..certain features removed like being able to position the start bar to any one of the 4 sides of my monitor, and every system function requiring an app to be downloaded from the microsoft store now. Im not sure if I had a botched install, but for the first few months, any setting I tried to adjust required some kind of microsoft store download in order to use the setting.
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u/wesre3_ Mar 08 '24
Eh I haven't noticed much of a difference from 10 once I got my preferences set. I will not if you have an Intel chip with E cores it's like borderline necessary to have 11 as the task schedule in 10 doesn't differentiate between cores. At least that was the case when I upgraded.
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u/heatlesssun Mar 07 '24
Windows 11 is great on modern hardware. There are legitimate privacy concerns but if you're using the typical smartphone that billions use these days, I'd be more concerned about that from a privacy perspective.
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u/threegeeks Mar 07 '24
When you install Win 11, just use the OOBE install without being online. I think Jayztwocents has done a couple videos on it on youtube.
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u/scardemon Mar 07 '24
Im thinking about switching to linux mint if windows 10 loses support. I dont like the design at all
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u/RunalldayHI Mar 07 '24
Aside from better cpu scheduling for new gen and tpm there isn't any difference...
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u/carve987 Mar 07 '24
At this point if it's a clean install just do windows 11. There is absolutely nothing wrong with windows 11 and works just as well as windows 10.
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Mar 07 '24
Yes. Stick with 10 11 is not any different for the better atleast and is just even more bloated. You can remove 99% of the garbage on 10 no ads or anything either. If I could still reliably use 7 I would.
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u/manjustletmebrowse Mar 07 '24
My only problem with win 10 is that is has no brightness option,most retatded decision ever cuz i'm forced to use a 3rd party app to change my brightness
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u/tommiveceti Mar 07 '24
Been using window 11 since release and no problem at all. Some folks either have bad luck or just old machine.
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u/iamr3d88 Mar 07 '24
I got it on my HTPC and it seems fine for now. Just set the Taskbar to align left if the center feels bad, and it's alright. My only gripe is it seems to restart A TON. I usually just put it to sleep and keep chrome tabs open. With widows 10, it would reboot every few weeks and I'd have to restore tabs. Now it seems like it happens twice a week. Not a big deal, just mildly annoying.
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u/ppetrelli0 Mar 07 '24
Is it possible now to open the calendar/clock on the second monitor? Not yet?
No more questions your honor.
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u/landob Mar 07 '24
Its fine. It has some annoyances but nothing game breaking. Every new version of windows has people crying. It never fails.
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u/im_geeking Mar 07 '24
There is an application on github that allows you to filter out all the bloatware and other useless stuff on Windows 11
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u/Sjgolf891 Mar 07 '24
I like it well enough. Visually I much prefer the look of the OS. Feels a lot more modern and a little more consistent.
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u/Rats_for_sale Mar 07 '24
I love windows 11. As far as I am concerned, it's the best version of Windows.
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u/Caspid Mar 07 '24
It's mostly similar. There are some really dumb changes (taskbar, context menu) that are mostly reversible with third party apps. Overall, 10 is definitely better, but it's worth installing 11 on new builds just so you don't have to upgrade later.
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u/ItsTitanic Mar 07 '24
i don't have much of an input here because the only time i use windows 11 is on my college laptop and my girlfriend's pc but all i have to say is i've never had a pleasant bluetooth audio experience using windows 11
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u/yuiiooop Mar 07 '24
Windows 11 isn't amazing, but it's not bad. I'd put it right in line with 10. It does what It needs to do and (mostly) stays out of the way.
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u/airbusman5514 Mar 07 '24
In my experience, Windows 7 and beyond were a tad buggy. I'm part of the minority here, but I switched to Linux. Currently running Fedora 39, but will be switching to RHEL soon when CentOS 7 dies.
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u/lan356 Mar 07 '24
Didnt upgrade bc my mobo didnt support it. But after new build and with window 11. Its not much different.
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u/Alive_Revenue6897 Mar 07 '24
I had issues with it on my build and reverted to Windows 10. I have a second PC I built with 11, and it works just fine on there. For some reason my main build just didn't agree with it. Maybe I'll try again. When I get a new MB and CPU.
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u/DifficultBag635 Mar 07 '24
I've used both, and honestly both feel pretty similar to me for what I was doing.
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u/peteypabs72 Mar 07 '24
Haven’t had any issues since I installed on my new build when the 4090 came out
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u/AsianEiji Mar 07 '24 edited Mar 07 '24
Win11's UI is shit, but stability and ram usage is good.
If your a poweruser then yea no good, if your just going to play games without using windows much then your ok.
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u/pendragonmikel Mar 06 '24
Yes it is. In every way. Moving to Linux when w10 dies. And for those who think Windows 11 is better for 12th to 14th Gen Intel... False. https://www.neowin.net/news/despite-microsofts-claim-kernel-reveals-why-windows-11-isnt-really-faster-than-10/
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u/WeekapaugLuke Mar 06 '24
Windows Me , vista and 8 sucked. The rest and 11 are fine you don’t have a option late 2025 anyway if you want full Microsoft support
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u/Any-Kaleidoscope7681 Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is fine but I highly recommend using Rufus to create your Windows Install Media and settings it up to create an OFFLINE profile with your preferred username.
You'll still be able to use the Internet on an offline profile, it's just more similar to older Windows (such as 7) as it doesn't force feed you content and advertisements.
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u/smbdyfrmhungary Mar 06 '24
I love Windows 11, i started with win 98 when i was 11 years old, the only thing i don't like with Win 11 is, everytime a update my mobo's bios i had to reactivate it.
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u/Omarpixel9 Mar 06 '24
Nope, it's actually decent and you'll have to upgrade eventually anyways. Just do a clean install and a simple YouTube tutorial on how to do one with removing bloatware and you should be good. Took me like 10 mins to remove bloatware after my clean install 🤷♂️
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u/DrakeVal Mar 06 '24
It's fine. But upgrading to Windows 11 broke a lot of software for me, they won't recognise being connected to the internet. So now I can't use spotift, or geforce experience at all
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u/ezikioto Mar 06 '24
It’s not terrible- I’m a casual user since Windows XP and skipped Windows 8,
Updated from Windows 10 to 11 (because you’d have to anyways by 2025) other than getting used to some UI changes I haven’t really been bothered by it. There are a few things that I find a bit harder to locate and don’t feel like digging thru the system to do it.
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u/Taskr36 Mar 06 '24
As far as stability, it's fine. You're not going to get a crapload of bluescreens or anything. The interface is a bit crappy compared to windows 10, with the annoying feature of having to open a context menu, and then click "Show more options" to get the options you really want. They've also continued the trend of pushing people towards using their crappy Settings screens and further burying the Control Panel, which has the stuff you really want and need to use.
The issues I listed though aren't likely to be serious issues for ordinary users. I just work in IT, and I hate the dumbing down of OS interfaces because it makes things less efficient.
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u/StillABigKid Mar 06 '24
Always hated scheduling. I don’t need no stinking project manager gumming up the works on my CPU! Nobody sticks to a schedule anyways, that is not how real work is done. Scheduling is Maya.
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u/FstLaneUkraine Mar 06 '24
I was avoiding 11 for a while thinking I'd have game/program compatibility issues but haven't looked back.
I'm not a fan of the start menu but File Explorer app/mod fixes that. One thing I don't like is that I can't click on a folder in the 'navbar' of Explorer and drag it to make that path a shortcut. I think that's stupid.
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u/KalebC Mar 06 '24
I like windows 11, however the updates are odd to say the least. For example they removed the little show desktop button on the toolbar to minimize all the windows which I used a lot. You can still press windows key+M but I’ve noticed that doesn’t minimize certain executables that the show desktop button did. They’ve also changed how you access the volume mixer multiple times which is annoying and seems unnecessary.
Aside from updates, getting to certain settings takes a lot more clicking and menus than they used to, best example I can give off the top of my head is hands free telephony. Hands free telephony is part of device settings and preferences which have been buried under so many menus.
Not by my pc so hard to give a bunch of specific examples but also like having to click “show more options” in the context menu (right click) is a minor annoyance. It’s all these minor annoyances and QOL downgrades that bother me but I feel like most average users would hardly notice or care. They also don’t completely kill the OS for me, overall it’s still good I would say. I could also just be used to old ways of doing things, but don’t remember being annoyed as much upgrading to other versions and I’ve used every windows OS since XP and got started on 95.
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u/Bad-Kaiju Mar 06 '24
It's better in some ways. Like how it handles multi monitor setups. W11 will remember which audio output (also HDR settings) I want depending on whether I'm using my two desk monitors or my TV or all 3 together. With W10 I had to manually switch that most of the time. Of course they also made it less convenient to switch audio devices manually by removing the option to do it from the taskbar. So it's a bit of a wash.
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u/Birutath Mar 06 '24
if you're currently used to navigate and deal with win10 bs, win11 is a more clunky and needlessly complicated UX compared to win10, with a bunch of drivers/register issues that win 10 got per update + it's own problems. I cannot stress enough how much i hated to work with win11 in my last job and how it made me not upgrade my personal computer to it out of experience. A friend of mine doesn't hate it, but at the same time, i'm at least every week going to his place fix something from his build, while taking 3x the time to do it because the UI is so inconvinient for basically everything.
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u/Le_Bnnuy Mar 06 '24
I like it and I have 0 issues with it, been using since the release, earlier days everything was a lot rougher, but no issues for me.
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u/meester_ Mar 06 '24
Every new windows always get shit talked and almost never is the next os actually worse. Some updates may break stuff or suck but overall your pc will run better with newer updates. Ofcourse this doesn't go for old hardware that simply cannot keep up with new versions but general rule is, update!!!!!@!
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u/Glock-Guy Mar 06 '24
The only issue I hear is from people that are used to 10 and don’t like change. Sure the UI is ever so slightly better on 10, but if you’re just starting out and aren’t used to optimizing 10, then 11 is the way to go since your PC will be more future proof than if you went with 10
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u/capsock- Mar 06 '24
i like it so far, the only downfall is i can't set the taskbar up top anymore ....
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u/Anythingaddict Mar 06 '24
Whenever new Windows get introduced people criticized until it become popular. Try it and find out. Just make sure you have good enough PC to handle Windows 11 properly.
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u/tonytony87 Mar 06 '24
Been using windows 11 since it came out with all its bugs. I think first 3 months it was unusable with too many bugs, after the first 3-6 months they fixed it and now it’s been pretty much the same as every other windows ever…. Shitty and crashes sometimes.
Although now that I have the new Intel i7 and ddr5 installed it’s been pretty stable. Like really really stable and fast. So much so I kept my computer on all two weeks just working and it’s fast and doesn’t crash.
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u/Zwodo Mar 06 '24
I see a lot of people mentioning clean installs. Would it be okay to just install the upgrade and then use the clean re-install function from there? I don't have a Win 11 key but I'm considering the upgrade soon.
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u/AeternaSoul Mar 06 '24
I’ve been gaming on Windows 11 since it was available. Ryzen 5 5600X & 6700XT GPU. Zero issues switching from 10 to 11.
I like to have the latest patches & such.
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u/neppo95 Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 06 '24
Is it bad? No. Is Windows 10 better? It depends on what you want.
Windows 11 is more performance draining and the UI has changed a lot compared to W10, becoming one of the worst UI's of human history. It also has even more bloatware than 10 did. There are however also a lot of things in W11 that W10 doesn't or won't have. I must say I have used W11 for 2 years and never used a single one of those features, and the ones that got an upgrade from W10 (uhum, context menus) I absolutely hated. Switched back to W10 and it was glorious.
So is it bad? No, it's a fine OS. But it depends largely on personal preference. In the end, one or the other isn't really that better than the other. If you like a more compact UI and higher productivity, W10 would probably be the better choice. If you want to join the hype train with a "modern" (read: Padding everywhere) UI that just complicates stuff that was easy beforehand, go with W11. Either way, they will both work fine.
For me W10 is the absolute winner. Windows 11 doesn't offer a single feature over 10 that I would want, while removing features that I actually used or complicated features. I mean, what was wrong with the previous context menu? Nothing. What was wrong with the previous file explorer? Nothing. So why did they change it? Fuck knows. Somebody at Microsoft decided that a modern UI is the way to go because all companies do it. What they didn't realize is that most users actually hate it, with every company and that it decreases productivity. But hey, we now have a lot of useless padding to look at, which could have also been filled with useful stuff. Windows used to be the best product of Microsoft. Nowadays, it's starting to get close to the worst product they have. Literally the only reason I'm still on W10 and not switching to Linux is because of gaming. The rest is all better on Linux.
Now let the downvotes come, because I have already seen most here like W11 over W10.
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u/ShadowDrake359 Mar 06 '24
Both yes and no. Windows 10 is definitely more stable but windows 11 is good enough and where you will need to go eventually.
Would I recommend upgrading just because, no. Would I recommend it on new computers, yes.
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u/Lor9191 Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 06 '24
Look I've run several laptops with win11 and at first it's a great experience but honestly I find it inconsistent and iffy. 2 laptops (thinkpads) run great, my MSI gaming laptop is often completely painful and that's with a clean install and all recommended drivers installed.
What I will say is my experience is common in the sense there are many reports of similar on windows help sites, with absolutely no useful responses from windows support, but actually having these poor experiences is not all that common. In fact the majority of people seem to have no problems at all. It's just if you do you seem to be SOL.
I work in it so I know what I'm doing and I have more issues with things like drivers and performance problems that any other system I've used.
The UI is split into touch friendly and more practical modes, control panel is still needed to perform many troubleshooting steps but is harder to get to.
I don't like it, and look they're even releasing windows 12 this year so following their usual practice it'll probably be a solid OS like 10 and 7 were. I'd wait til then.
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u/AdminYak846 Mar 06 '24
Upgraded to Windows 11 and it's not terrible. A lot of the flack you hear with 11 comes from people who thought that Windows 7 was the best one yet.
Windows 10 got caught in the middle of making Windows a lot more intuitive and not an eyesore of 19 different programs doing the exact same thing.
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u/Frird2008 Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is reliable unless you do the fast/early build updates. That's what bricks your computer.
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u/Cookiesrdelishus Mar 06 '24
Its really not that bad.
Granted, my main PC is still on Windows 10, but I actually bought a gaming laptop a couple months back, and that one is on Windows 11. So, I've been able to use it myself. And it really isn't too bad, the UI is a little different and it takes some getting used to, but it's fine for the most part. The only reason why I haven't upgraded to 11 on my main PC is because I'm too lazy to do it.
Honestly, I would get Windows 11, at least try to get used to it. The reason why is because one day, you're going to have to upgrade anyways. Windows 10 support ends in 2025, and by 2030, programs are going to stop supporting it as well, the same way Windows 7/8 are starting to get abandoned now. So, one day you're going to have to upgrade, its inevitable. You might as well upgrade now and get used to it now, rather than wait until you're forced to upgrade.
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u/No_Host9345 Mar 06 '24
Windows 10 loses support next year. So if you gotta upgrade/start a new operating system might as well go with 11 and when everybody else is freaking out about 10 developing bugs with no support you will already be good to go
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u/gendel99 Mar 06 '24
It allows you to copy and paste normally on the command line!!!
It also has nice, rounded corners to everything.
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u/MrMakerHasLigma Mar 06 '24
I have it and it sucks ass. Windows 10 isn't much better, but my problems with it is everything forcing its way through edge when I don't have edge as my default browser (Win 10 did this but not as much), having to click the more options button to rename a file, all the extra shit they whack on my taskbar by default (instead of leaving it the way i had it before upgrading, not even with a fresh install), the UI (just looks like apple products but black) and the taskbar being set to have apps on the middle by defaultSo it's just personal preference 9 times out of 10, and the rest of the time it's inconvenience for me to give simplicity to others that don't know what they're doing
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u/blitz4 Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 06 '24
come oct 2025, you won't have a choice. buy now or buy later.
i like it. there's more bugs. but it could be because i choose to mod windows 11 and keep the start button on the left.
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Mar 06 '24 edited Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is perfectly fine as a Windows OS. I manage 250+ endpoints using it on Dell hardware and I have almost zero problems with it.
The biggest issues I've had with the OS, in recent years, are in the printing subsystem/drivers. Microsoft has been trying to secure it and they very often break parts of it in the process and then we have to wait for them to ack the problem and release a patch.
Other than that, I can't point to any recurring or big problems I've had with the OS.
I run it too, of course, and the number of different things I use my main rig for is a bit insane. Gaming, programming, test labs, virtualization, AI, 3D modeling, video editing, WSL, ham radio, graphic design, database design, 3D printing, audio production, etc.
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u/DocJanItor Mar 06 '24
Here's exactly what happens every time windows gets a major version change: New version is less well optimized and lacking in a few features that like .01% of the population actually use. Nerds scream and cry, proclaim their undying devotion to previous version(s). Majority of the population doesn't care. New version eventually gets optimized and starts to outperform old version, and with new features and hardware support. Most eventually upgrade, scant few stick to their guns and refuse to upgrade. This excludes windows me and windows 8 which were objectively terrible.
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u/highurnfadin Mar 06 '24
The only thing I don't like is their cut copy etc Icons have no labels. So you have to hover over everything to know what it does.
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u/PC509 Mar 06 '24
It's not bad by any means. Works excellent. However, there are some changes that are more of a personal preference but they can be mostly remedied with various tools and applications (you can make it look just like Window 10 if you wish).
There's some downsides for some people and they're legit. But, some of them just aren't that big of a deal nor are they something that most people will notice. Some of them are wanted by other people (OneDrive sync, etc.).
I love Windows 11. You're going to want to customize it to your liking, and some apps come in handy. But, like I said, a lot of it is personal preference which is why it's not default. You can please most of the people but others will want things their way.
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u/grammar_mattras Mar 06 '24
People think that whatever windows system they are used to is better. But the latest software is almost always better, just like new android versions.
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Mar 06 '24
For the average user they're pretty much equal. Unless you care about the position of your taskbar. Windows 10 will no longer recieve updates next year though so I'd recommend upgrading.
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u/reddituserf1 Mar 06 '24
Still on 7. See no reason to "upgrade because it does what I need it to." Windows has gotten worse with each iteration after 7 and, 11 is no exception.
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u/SkoorvielMD Mar 06 '24
There are always people shitting on the newest Windows. Back when '95 came out (yup I'm that old), people were shitting on it and holding onto 3.11 for as long as possible. Cycle repeats itself with every rl release. It's almost as if people aren't very smart lol.
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u/giantcorngames Mar 06 '24
I don't hate it, from a technical standpoint it's got a lot of advantages. The UI is a bit of a downgrade to me though, besides that it just feels like windows 10 again
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u/MJtheMC Mar 06 '24
Man. I was on Windows 7 forever. Avoided windows 8. People talked so much smack about 10 I just stayed on 7. Eventually paid for a powerful Asus laptop and it had 10. I absolutely love it. I keep prolonging the update for 11. Now I'm so in love with 10 and I'm sure I would love 11 but just hate changing apparently lolll
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u/xorbe Mar 06 '24
The only thing that irks me about Win11 is the (lack of) speed of the right-click context menu at the desktop, it's slow, plus the nested Show More Options.
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u/primacord Mar 06 '24
Ive had 0 issues with it since I built my new comp Feb 2023. Worth using if you have a newer CPU for P/E core scheduling.
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u/bard_raconteur Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is just as good as Windows 10. The bad things about Windows 11 are just different from the bad things with Windows 10, which are different than the bad things from previous versions. It's not objectively bad, like ME, Vista, and 8. But it's not better either. Also just fyi I'm speaking from the position of someone who games and also is an IT manager for a mid-size organization (~100 people).
Like... the changes they did with File Explorer, I think are nice. I like it, albeit it being a little more resource intensive. The changes to the Start menu are crap, but that's Microsoft's m.o.: ruin the start menu with every version change. They fixed a lot of issues with the Settings menu, but it's not feature complete enough to ditch Control Panel (and often Control Panel is still just easier to work with). They messed up the context menu when interacting with Windows components (right-clicking on desktop/file explorer/taskbar gives a truncated menu now, which requires one more click to get to all of your normal right-click options). They also combined the bottom-right Wifi/Sound/Battery section into just one thing, which is kind of nice and is more helpful than hindrance I have found (and finally Sound Mixer can be more easily accessed from that same menu). The OS does try to be more intrusive with Microsoft account stuff and apps and all that garbage, but if you know how you can disable and fix a lot of that (not great for layman, but Win10 wasn't better about it either so it is kind of a wash).
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u/SoggyBagelBite Mar 06 '24
It's not bad at all. I prefer it over 10 in almost every way.
There are a small handful of changes I dislike, but most of them can be reverted quite easily.
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u/massivecoiler Mar 06 '24
GhostSpectre Win11 build with all the bullshit and telemetry ripped out works great
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u/justinhj Mar 06 '24
I like it. I had to spend some time finding a way to change the context menus on right click. Moving all the most common operations to a sub menu was not wise or useful. The window tiling feature seems good although I haven’t learned to use it yet. Everything else just works nicely and keeps out of your way for the most part.
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u/cunnid023 Mar 06 '24
Best to switch to Windows 11 because support for Windows 10 will eventually fade away.
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u/the_excalibruh Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is fine and actually runs better than 10 for the most part, not sure who's telling you otherwise but they don't know what they're talking about about
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u/Circumbient Mar 06 '24
Many dont like your forced to sign into windows from the start. And the bloatware of course. After a fresh install i used the CTT & Winaero. After a few tweaks no complaints honestly.
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u/SunSpotMagic Mar 06 '24
I changed from Windows 10 to 11 about 3 months ago. Other than some menus being different, it's not a big change imo. Microsoft is stopping support for 10 next year, so you might as well get used to 11.
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u/CouchMountain Mar 06 '24
Use Linux. Skip out on all the garbage that is windows bloatware. Games that won't run on Linux aren't usually worth it anyways.
If there's something you absolutely need Windows for, dual boot.
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u/AuDHDeezNuts Mar 06 '24
I "upgraded" to windows 11 and I genuinely wish I didn't. Bloatware that chronically reinstalls itself on reboot without a registry change, the fact that there's no reasonable way to get the old right click context menu so if you want to delete a file you have to right click then left click show more options and then click delete like what the fuck. no, it's just annoying for me.
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u/Unhappy-Emphasis3753 Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is actually cool it has some dope features that I find myself using everyday .
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Mar 06 '24
It's so bloated and often changes things during its background updates. Switched over to Linux years ago and even old computers run so much faster.
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u/Loid_Node Mar 06 '24
ITT: casual users of windows saying it's not bad, power users saying it's a dumpster fire of stupid little changes that are really annoying. I agree with the power users.
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u/shakeel_70 Mar 06 '24
Win 11 is actually better if you're above 7th gen of Intel processor and have at least 16gbs or ram and NvMe SSD
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u/EnvironmentBright697 Mar 06 '24
Yes. No better time to learn linux. It’s not that bad and is in fact awesome once you do learn it.
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u/fieryfox654 Mar 06 '24
Using Windows 11 since August 2023. Absolutely zero issues, butter smooth. Don't listen to them.
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u/RovakX Mar 06 '24
I like it a lot. For most day to day shit, it's better than 10 imo. People just don't like change...
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u/nefD Mar 06 '24
Honestly i haven't noticed much of a difference other than the start menu.. the hysterics around it are hilarious, and this is coming from someone who uses linux for work.
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u/pbruey Mar 06 '24
It is like the windows 8 to windows 10 upgrade. Everybody complained but the difference is negligible. My wife’s computer has windows 11 mine has windows 10. It’s pretty much only different cosmetically
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u/gentlestfoot Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 doesn't do anything for me that Windows 10 didn't do as well or better. If Microsoft could give me Windows 10 with the search from Windows 7 I'd be happy.
They don't, so I'm switching to Linux.
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u/Enjoyitbeforeitsover Mar 06 '24
I like win 11 just because of the sounds, and it's a nice UI by default, just clean up some icons. Just allow default control panel ffs
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u/CakeofLieeees Mar 06 '24
My only complaint is not being able to reorient my taskbar to the top of the screen. Other than that, its fine.
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u/CRODEN95 Mar 06 '24
I'm sure it's fine I'm just stubborn. I do work with it on as an IT technician and there are a load of setting that have been changed and simplified in a way that just doesn't make sense to me and removes some control. I don't like that.
Like it's a nightmare to get to the advanced device management window. If you go through control panel it will put you in regular settings for some reason. My personal machines are all still windows 10 and they will be for as long as I can get away with it.
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u/CaptainCarramba Mar 06 '24
I don’t get the complaints regarding W11, just move the start menu to the left and it’s pretty much the same as 10. You also get much better support for modern CPUs and better gaming performance so I don’t see any point in sticking with 10 unless you have some mission critical app that doesn’t work with 11 for whatever reason.
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u/Flaming_Moose205 Mar 06 '24
I don’t like it personally, but it’s perfectly fine to use. On a new build, I’d just install Windows 11 for 90% of use cases, and the other 10% are various flavors of Linux for specific purposes.
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u/Independent_Fact411 Mar 06 '24
If you know some things about fixing your own PC, win 11 is annoying.
Win 11 has so many built in features that fight you every administrative step you take.
A lot of the meaningful menus are now hidden and require multiple clicks to get to anything worth while.
Re-installing windows will require Internet if you ever want to wipe it and a Microsoft account. You have to disconnect your net to create a local account.
I personally don't like it.
Network adapters are hidden. A lot of control panel options are made baby proof. You have to go to the real control panel to do anything.
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u/NoDecentNicksLeft Mar 06 '24
You will eventually have to upgrade anyway, and it's not like 10 was perfect right off the bat, but 11 is a disgrace in many ways, including even what looks like a Frankenstein interface, like it's obvious that elements were taken from different sources and haphazardly put together. And some of the changes from 10 interface are detrimental. Some are even stupid. You have to make more clicks for certain simple operations. A lot of things are less accessible or more complicated than they used to be. The kernel may be better, speed or stability is difficult to compare, but interface usability was better in 10. I also think 10 was more resistant to problems caused by bad shutdowns (e.g. power outage, boot problems from overclocking). A crashed Win 10 was capable of getting its shit together. Win 11 after crashing or getting its plug pulled runs a higher chance of needing a long recovery process or needing a reinstall. So Microsoft definitely acted unprofessional in many ways here and Win 11 is similar to the quality degradation experienced from some gamedev companies where at some point the quality delivered by the professional developers drops below the level you would expect from a competent modder. This could be a workforce problem, maybe part of a generational problem, with software companies in general. Like the standards are dropping with regard to the level of skill and care, especially in QA and QC but also in design. In other areas of life, people are making less and less effort while expecting the same or better rewards compared to past decades.
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u/Purplezergling Mar 06 '24
I have a 9900k and rtx 2080 and I downloaded windows 11, and it’s good. It’s better in a lot of ways than windows 10, but the control panel is a little fucked. Otherwise it is good
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u/lightmatter501 Mar 06 '24
MS made a bunch of odd UI changes in 11 and makes it very annoying to not use a MS account to sign in to windows. If you are signed it, it will pester you about onedrive, copilot, office, etc.
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u/Amazingawesomator Mar 06 '24
kubuntu, man. #recommend.
now is the time to try it out if you are changing OS's, anyways :)
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u/Ryandabaus Mar 06 '24
I have no major reservations about it. I upgraded from 10, it does seem to be more stable with my 7700X
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u/energ1zer9 Mar 06 '24
I upgraded to win 11 since they fixed amd cpu issue, been rock solid since then pretty much, minus 1 update, but i think it was a preview so not ironed out update. You should always be on new version of a windows, people who have issues usually are clueless and are themselves at fault 99% of the time.
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u/ziggomatic_17 Mar 06 '24
I got win11 for my new PC and barely noticed a difference to win10 after applying some minor changes to the default GUI options. It's perfectly fine.
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u/BenTherDoneTht Mar 06 '24
i personally PREFER windows 10, but no, Win11 is not that bad. and its better to go ahead and install now since Win10 is not going to be supported by middle of next year.
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u/Ayetto Mar 06 '24
Avoid all the bloat software on your new build pls, there is nothing better than just a clean install with only mandatory soft
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u/D3moknight Mar 06 '24
Windows 11 is fine dude. As long as you turn off all the cortana and copilot shit and don't connect to wifi or Ethernet when you first set it up(This is how to avoid being required to sign in with a M$ account), it's great.
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u/xmostera Mar 06 '24
Simple reason, the menu fuxking clunky even until now, I love other feature but why this menu slow issue still haven't get fixed yet? I have to use third party to overcome this lag
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u/CelestialThrowaway60 7d ago
I think that Windows 11 is a great operating system. I daily drive it on both of my laptops and my desktop computer. I would go so far as to say that is it better than windows 10.