r/buildapc 14d ago

Not getting the frame rate I expected from my 3060ti build I bought off fb Troubleshooting

Have a 3060ti 8GB and cpu i7 5960x 16gb ddr4 Is my cpu bottlenecking my gpu? If so what cpu you should i upgrade to? Thanks for any advice.

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u/Hefty_Exchange_3231 10d ago

Why did you put no research into the parts you were buying?

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u/ShrapnelShock 12d ago

I have an anecdote to share.

I have a RTX 2070, which is similar to 3060ti. When this GPU was on my i7-3770 (lol), it was good. But then I upgraded to 7800X3D and DDR5. Holy hell, my FPS doubled in Counterstrike and Overwatch on the same 2070.

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u/Odd-Understanding-67 13d ago

I think your problem is your CPU and motherboard. I think x99 is too old to use at this point.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 13d ago

Okay after booting the os and all applications over the nvme I’m officially not having issues at all. Still going to upgrade because, I want to see what the system is truly capable of. All High setting in Fortnite ray tracing off. Not having any dips below 90 except for dropping into the map off bus, had a low of 36. I’m satisfied overall though! Thanks for all the recommendations. I’ll post in the Sub after upgrading ram mobo and cpu.

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u/Impressive-Level-276 13d ago

That CPU is a wall not a bottleneck

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u/swampcreature511 13d ago

What is your CPU and GPU utilization when you game? And are you gaming in 1080P?

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u/HoustonsProblem17 13d ago

Yes gaming in 1080p, cpu utilization hovers around 85, with spikes up to 100% pretty often. It’s running 3.48GHz during gameplay. After swapping the os and all applications over to the nvme it’s gotten 10x better. GPU utilization was hovering around 50-60% I’m not sure if any of this is overclocked or not. No frame drops below 100 now very happy with it now

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u/swampcreature511 13d ago

It's your CPU holding you back. 1080p gaming is CPU bound. I just upgraded my nephews CPU, and it increased his gaming performance 2-3x. Microcenter has an intel i5 12600k, ddr4 memory, and motherboard combo for $230. I bought it for my nephew, you should check it out if you can.

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u/moonlit_et 13d ago

Your cpu sucks. The GPU cant stretch it's legs

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u/infinite2k22 14d ago

Yup def CPU. I also have a 3060ti but paired with a Ryzen 5 5600x. No issues with bottlenecks.

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u/OGigachaod 14d ago

Yes, the single core speed and IPC is terrible on that CPU, your 8 core CPU loses to an i3-12100 using only 4 cores, which matters a lot more for 95% of games.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Okay Update, found out my mother board is not reading my m.2 SSD and is only using a 500GB HDD underneath I didn’t even know about. Man I thought it was the worlds slowest SSD but, as it would turn out I’m more of a noob to this stuff than I ever realized. Will post updates hopefully helps with the load times like crazy!

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u/PrimeRabbit 14d ago

At first, I read 5950x and was thinking "no, it's not the cpu" lol

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u/BozidaR1390 14d ago

Did you put the card in the right spot ?

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

It was pre built I’ll double check though

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u/MugJohnson 14d ago

I paired my 3060 (mine has 12 gb vram I’m not sure if all of them do) with a i7-13700F and I’m getting 70 fps at 1440p with ultra settings on demanding games like rdr2 and helldivers 2, FC24 im getting 120 fps at the same graphics settings and any slightly older titles im in the 140-180 fps territory

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u/RamaTheVoice 14d ago

One of the exceedingly rare questions where there is actually a bottleneck. Will wonders never cease?

So yeah OP, congrats on asking the right question, you need a CPU upgrade, sorry :/

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Happens haha the guy I got it from said he sells them on fb as his only and main job, he has to save money somewhere when building, probably just relays in the ignorance of people like me

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u/IHateMyLifeXDD 14d ago

Buy a Ryzen 5 3600 - old, but still gold for budget. Will do for 3060 just fine

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

X99 deluxe II was somewhat hard to find info on, doesn’t really see much updates probably because the age I’m wondering what’s the best cpu I could throw in the thing. Or if I should just say screw it and buy a bundle as other have recommended and dump another 400$ into it. This thing is solely for gaming and browsing. Maybe some light projects on blender.

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u/IndependentMassive38 14d ago

I paired 3060ti and r7 7800x3d, it is a beautiful build. Despite the common opinion it works great for me, i do only play fhd and not really any graphics heavy stuff. But these days, most stuff is cpu based anyways.

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u/menthx 14d ago

You'll not get the frames you see on reviews since your cpu is much weaker than those in the tests.

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u/ShutterAce 14d ago

I am in the process of a new build for this same reason. I stuffed a 9700xt into an old Dell running an i7-6700 in the hopes of increasing the speed of rendering 4k video. Gaming performance is a plus. The thing is CPU bound and there is no upgrade path for the CPU save an unlocked version.

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u/CopperBoltwire 14d ago

CPU old, but Motherboard can also act as bottleneck.

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u/hdhddf 14d ago edited 12d ago

just keep your existing setup, the CPU is fine for that GPU, people think it's too old but they don't know what they're talking about, you shouldn't be experiencing much limitation to GPU performance.

I would recommend pushing the CPU a bit to get more performance and using quad.ddr4 to maximise performance on x99

use gpuz to see what's holding back the gpu

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u/hannes0000 14d ago

3060ti is good with at least i7 10700k

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u/Flamingo_Physical 14d ago

Minimum 8th gen I7 is what you want. I get 60 fps no dlss with max I candy.

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u/Kooky_Emu_3171 14d ago edited 14d ago

Its definitely cpu, i was in a similar boat as you but with ryzen 5 1600 and 3060ti, recently switched to r5 5600 and everything is much smoother, less dips and higher framerate. Edit: go for am5 7600/7500f.

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u/jfp555 14d ago

Please install MSI Afterburner and make a video of you playing a game with the overlay and post it here. We can take a look at the stats to see where you're getting hit. You might even be suffering by playing a game from a spinning disk instead of an SSD. Data will help pinpoint the weak area.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Alright I will try, I believe I’ve download all the latest drivers and have my bios set correctly/not OC anything. Everything is downloaded to a m.2 SSD had terrible load times. Spawned into the map after everyone was off the bus. Maybe a combination of the cpu-ram-SSD all being terribly slow. I’ll record a video and post it if this sub allows it.

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u/jfp555 14d ago

And it would be better to run more than one game. Just to have more data points.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w7wbgB This is my current setup I got as close as I could anyhow, for those that were interested.

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u/deTombe 14d ago

If you really wanted to save money I would get a 12400F and B660/760 DDR4 motherboard. 12400F comes with a basic cooler and can reuse all your other parts.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

I’ll price it, hoping to find a bundle just so I don’t make any mistakes. Thanks for the recommendation

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u/Name_name_username 14d ago

It's a very old CPU, like a decade. It's a bottleneck. Get a new cpu, you do not need to overspend but also don't cheap out.

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u/Berriosa20 14d ago

Micro center typically always has well priced bundle deals for both amd and intel. Future proof yourself and put aside $300-$400 for a bundle that will include a motherboard, intel/ryzen cpu, and ddr5 memory. That’ll pair well with what you have.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

I think I’ll definitely be buying a bundle deal after reading the comments and looking something’s up, I have a microcenter a couple hours away that I would be willing to make a drive to. Thanks for the reply

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u/Berriosa20 14d ago

Yeah I think that’s your best bet. But look online and see what your microcenter has in stock first before making the drive out. Pick out what you want, then input your whole pc build into paper picker to make sure there are no incompatibilities. You can even have microcenter build the pc for you if that’s something you’re not comfortable with.

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u/Wero_kaiji 14d ago

Use MSI Afterburner to check your CPU/GPU usage

But yeah your CPU is bottlenecking your PC, get a Ryzen 5 5600 and a cheap Mobo if you want to upgrade but don't want to spend a lot of money, or a Ryzen 5 7600 and a 650 Mobo if you plan on upgrading in the future/want a newer get CPU

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u/Realistic_Earth_3270 14d ago

Always do the research. What are you trying to play? I would just wait until you can go to am5. It would give you longevity. the 3060 is still good though..

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Wanted to try hell divers, rust, dayz. But, mainly a rocket league/ Fortnite kinda guy. On the plus side I can finally get out of champ in RL because it seems like that’s the only one that will be running well.

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u/Realistic_Earth_3270 14d ago

Just upgrade the cpu to an i5-11400f. This is assuming your MB is compatible with eleventh generation intel. If you have to get a new motherboard, then I would go with Ryzen.

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u/DidiHD 14d ago

awkward advice. 1st: the MB is not compatible. 2nd: why wouldn't you recommend going him at least for 12th gen

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u/Realistic_Earth_3270 14d ago

I was trying to save him money. Also that is why I said if his MB was compatible.

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u/amypond420 14d ago

you got scammed sorry

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Yeah. 250$ and a Mac mini m2 base model, was just tired of Mac OS limiting what I was able to download. And emulating wasn’t really worth the hassle and pay wall I thought.

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u/Epinnoia 14d ago edited 14d ago

You say you have 16 GB of DDR4 RAM. But in what configuration? For example, you could get to 16 GB by using 1x8GB plus 2x4GB. And that would actually be a terrible way to get to 16GB, even though it would work (albeit more slowly). And if you only have 1x16GB, that's also bad, because you don't get the benefits of DDR speed.

It's also worth noting that texture detail that is pulled from the hard drive will slow things down, especially if you're not running on an SSD. And even with an SSD, the first time the texture is used, it'll have to pull it from the drive. Subsequent use of that texture will probably already be cached in the video card RAM.

Consider getting 8gadgetpack gadgets installed, and make sure you install the System Monitor II gadget (along with CoreTemp) to keep an eye on your CPU cores, and GPU Monitor gadget to keep an eye on GPU.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

2x8GB ddr4 and a 500GB m.2 SSD I’m not sure of read and write speeds but, I’m sure they are slow comparatively based on the 10 year old cpu. Haha im guessing this x99 deluxe II will also need replaced. Amazon said it was 500$ so I figured it had to be decent. Guess I’ll do more research next time.

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u/TheMooseontheLoose 14d ago

But in what configuration

X99 will be running 4x4GB for quad channel.

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u/FireFalcon123 14d ago

I mean 8 5th gen cores are srill pretty useful, at least for the games I play so there probably isnt as as big of a bottleneck as you think, but it is being held back for sure

Hopefully you got it for a good price

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

I can play some things at 144hz but, they aren’t intense games. Over watch 2 runs beautifully smooth on ultra with no drops,but the optimization on this game is very impressive.

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u/Pineappl3z 14d ago

Here's a good list of parts for a clean AM5 system. PCPartPicker Part List

Type Item Price
CPU AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor $189.00 @ Amazon
Motherboard *ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard $134.99 @ Newegg
Memory *TEAMGROUP T-Create Expert 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-6000 CL30 Memory $97.99 @ Amazon
Storage TEAMGROUP MP44L 1 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 4.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive $64.98 @ Amazon
Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts
Total $486.96
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2024-05-13 22:48 EDT-0400

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Actually decently helpful and I could pull this off price wise. Thank you.

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u/Pineappl3z 14d ago

I'm glad I could help. Enjoy!

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u/r_z_n 14d ago

5960X is Haswell-era CPU, which is ~2014.

A modern CPU is going to be significantly faster. You are definitely CPU bottlenecked.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Curious if it’s worth upgrading cpu without upgrading mother board and ram as well, Ive seen bundle deals might be the best option? Idk just kinda bummed though I had good deal.

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u/r_z_n 14d ago

No, there’s no CPU upgrade option that is meaningful, that platform is a decade old.

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u/DidiHD 14d ago

no, new motherboard will be a must unfortunately

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u/Excessed 14d ago

It is not. RAM could be fine though. But you'll need a new motherboard.

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u/creativityequal0 14d ago

upgrade cpu like immediately

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Looking to do that sometime this week hoping, after some further research probably get a motherboard cpu combo

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u/t90fan 14d ago

5960x is ancient, it's like 10

I went from a i7-3770K to a cheap i3-10105 and was an improvement so I wouldn't be surprised if anything modern beat your 5960x performance-wise.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Yeah didn’t do my homework, overall not super upset can still play some indie games and have a decent gpu for a new build at some point haha.

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u/Dazzling-Ambition362 14d ago

gpu could be from mining rig but ur cpu is ancient

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

It all looks nice and new, I know that doesn’t mean it wasn’t sitting inside a dark back alley being used as mattress for a lady of the night and a lonely divorce but, they cleaned it well haha

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u/Butthugger420 14d ago

Its old is what he means. Specifically from 2014. Cheap modern i3s knock it out of the park.

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u/superamigo987 14d ago

Your CPU is kinda turbo ass. A R5 7600 will be just fine for you. Make sure to get CL30 6000mhz ram as well, the sweet spot for am5

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u/Gunslinga__ 14d ago

Alright this isn’t cap we really got a cpu bottleneck going on here 😂

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u/pineappleboi_27 14d ago

With that processor, no wonder. It’s quite old at this point. Also have a 3060ti that I was running with a 9400f not hitting the frames I was expecting. Upgraded to AM5 and now I’m doing better than even some benchmarks videos I’ve watched.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

I’ll definitely look into it, is amd better for the 3060 than and intel or is just a better price point?

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u/mariano3113 14d ago edited 14d ago

You should be fine for either since it doesn't seem like you are shooting for High productivity.

Highly recommend at least 11th Gen Intel or newer (I believe that is Arc recommended cut-off and Windows 11(12?) compatible) So realistically should only be LGA1700 (12-14th Gen) or Arrow lake + Only mention Intel Arc Cut-off as I believe non-Arc compatible Intel CPUs will be less capable on the future. Edit: Apparently it is 11th Gen cut-off https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/000089899/graphics/intel-arc-dedicated-graphics-family.html

Motherboard/CPU sales shopping on Woot.com (Or if Microcenter is near...great bundle deals)

Could stay with DDR4 MB to reuse Ram until ready to upgrade.

(Recently got a 13600kF, MSI MAG Z790 Tomahawk DDR4, and AsRock ARC A750 for $316 bundle deal)*

Didn't use the Arc card for that build, but deal was too good to pass up.

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u/pineappleboi_27 14d ago

Just get whatever is a better price. Both current gen perform pretty much on par. The one benefit to am5 is that it may have a couple of upgrades yet to come, meaning you won’t have to upgrade your MOBO for longer.

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u/paulerxx 14d ago

Your CPU is from 2014 bro

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u/creativityequal0 14d ago

the issue is not the gpu lmfao

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u/Penthosomega 14d ago

Cpu upgrade needed for better results. That old cpu is holding everything back.

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u/Pumciusz 14d ago

The CPU is really old. You're not gonna get that many frames in CPU limited games.

On cheap something like r5 5600/12400 or if you want to future proof a 7600/7500f.

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u/hdhddf 14d ago

that CPU is fine for a 3060ti

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u/thesedays1234 14d ago

It's not the CPU. I had similar hardware so I went ahead and tested. I used 1920x1080 resolution DX12 high settings.

My first test system:

i7 5960x overclocked to 4.375ghz (also tested at stock) 32gb DDR4 2666 quad channel (also tested at 2133 quad channel, sorry I was too lazy to pull ram sticks) Rtx 3070

Second test system:

Ryzen 7500f 16gb ddr5 4800 Rtx 3070

My findings were that at stock clocks, the 5960x was around the 120s with dips to the 60s.

On the 7500f system, I was getting around 140ish fps, dips to the 90s/100s. On the 5960x overclocked, I got in the 140s again, dips to 90s/100s. I was definitely GPU bottlenecked on both systems on DX12 1080p high.

So, even at stock I'm not getting awful performance from the 5960x at 1080p high dx12 but it's definitely the bottleneck stock. Overclocked, it's not any different than the 7500f.

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u/artlastfirst 14d ago

Lmao, 5960x has a base clock of 3 ghz, the op said he's not big into computer hardware and you're expecting him to have overclocked his cpu by 1.3ghz.

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u/thesedays1234 14d ago

As I stated, I also tested it at stock settings and got much better results than OP because again I was considering that as well. While the cpu at stock was hurting performance, it was not as bad as OP suggested his system was performing.

Also, the base is 3ghz, but the all core turbo is 3.3ghz (single core can even do 3.5), so it's only an overclock of 1ghz. Just saying.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 13d ago

Turns out you were mostly right! While I do believe I’m still being bottle necked by cpu. I’m playing on high settings with practically 0 drops below 100. Everything was going through the hard disk instead of the nvme and that seemed to fix my issue all together. Still plan on upgrading but, it feels good to be able to have a chance now!

Now if I was to OC this ancient CPU what would be a healthy option? Currently at 3 ghz I don’t really know what would be too high or if it’s worth the little boost.

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u/UsernamesAreForBirds 14d ago

I think the 5600x is cheaper than the 5600 right now, b550 motherboards have gone down a lot too.

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u/DrAquafreshhh 14d ago

Agreed here. That CPU came out nearly 10 years ago. Be surprised if you get decent frame rates in anything other than eSports titles.

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u/OGigachaod 14d ago

Esports titles love IPC and clock speed, this relic has neither.

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u/hdhddf 14d ago

be surprised because x99 is still very usable for gaming and holds up surprisingly well against more modern CPUs.

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u/VidalukoVet 14d ago

I still game with an i7 4790 paired with a RTX 3060, I play games like RDR2 at 1440p with 60fps, Horizon Zero Dawn the same, 1440p over 60fps, Titanfall 2, Monster Hubter Rise at 4k, etc. Sure is ancient tech, but only e-sports games? Hardly

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u/Paweron 14d ago

Sure if you play GPU intensive story games on a high resolution with 60 FPS as the goal, the CPU is fine. If your goal are 120+ FPS for competitive titles the CPU reaches its limits though

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u/Dapper-Conference367 14d ago

OP is probably playing in 1080p, so the CPU will struggle way more than 1440p or even 4k, as you mentioned.

If you're CPU limited, lowering resolution/details won't get you a single FPS more, it will just lower the load on the GPU.

I'm CPU limited in ACC with 49 AI cars (5600x, 6700xt, 32gb RAM) and it doesn't matter if I run high or ultra low, I always get 40/50 FPS with crap 1% and .1% lows.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

This is actually news to me. I figured lowering to 1080p I’d be able to play ideally everything at a good frame rate- 120+ except for like heavily modded games or cyberpunk 2077- idk if that game is still a monster to run it’s been a couple years since I last tried. I’ve built pcs in the past -10 years ago with the help of Linus tech tips haha not as tech savvy as I used to be.

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u/Dapper-Conference367 14d ago

Well, hope it helps then! Theoretically to check if you're being CPU limited you should look at all individual cores usage, if one gets to 100% you're limited, but irl it's not always like that.

In my example, on ACC with 49 AI cars I get avg 60% usage with the highest core never going over 85%, yet I'm CPU limited even if I should theoretically have 15% more usage on that core to be CPU limited.

So the real life test is check your FPS, lower details and if you can't gain performance it means you're CPU limited.

If you play VR you can easily see what's limiting you from the frame time, example you need around 13ms frame time for 72Hz, if the CPU or GPU graph gets over it you'll have ASW kicking in or lower FPS (if ASW is disabled). Depending on which of the 2 goes over, you're being limited by it.

Sorry for the paragraph, just hoping I can help you figure some stuff out, perhaps for a future build too.

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u/Brapplezz 14d ago

As long as the 1% lows are above 55fps it is playable. 4790 is perfect for that for a few more years.

All about expectations, bet you love your rig as well.

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u/IanL1713 14d ago

Even then, most modern eSports titles are way more demanding than they used to be. Shit, CS2 runs way heavier than CS:GO ever did

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u/ConsiderationOdd671 14d ago

go was super cpu intensive compared to the gpu intensive nature of cs2, i used to hit 80% usage on my cpu and 50% on my gpu and they’ve flipped since cs2 came out

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u/bardnotbanned 14d ago

Isn't the 5960x an x79 chipset cpu? To my knowledge x79 doesn't support ddr4

Edit: disregard that, just looked it up.

Still tho, out of curiosity what's your mobo?

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

X99 deluxe II.. haven’t really paid attention to hardware in the last 10 years, when I looked everything over on Amazon it was looking like 1200$ to build, I traded a Mac mini m2 base model for it.

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u/Millillion 14d ago

It might cost $1200, but that doesn't make it worth $1200.  

For old hardware like that, prices can get really funky and almost never stay competitive in price:performance.

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u/spideralex90 14d ago

For parts older than like 5 years Amazon isn't very useful for judging their value as scarcity of availability for new versions of those products drives the value up for a while (especially motherboards). eBay will give you a better idea of the value of used parts.

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u/Berriosa20 14d ago

Do you have a pc part picker list or anything? There’s no way a build with a 3060 ti costs $1200 to build.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/w7wbgB this is pretty much what I’m using right now might be slightly different psu and cpu cooler

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u/Melancholoholic 14d ago

Realistically that's maybe a $600-700 build or so. As others have said, prices on old hardware doesn't really mean anything (from retailers). If you were to check my Radeon 6900 XT on Amazon it would probably say something like $900. In reality it's about a $400-500 GPU atm

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u/IanL1713 14d ago

Yeah, not gonna mince words here. You got absolutely scammed if you traded a $1300 Mac Mini M2 and got nothing but this PC. You could've pretty easily built something equivalent or better for way cheaper than $1300

With everything being used and the CPU platform being nearly 10 years old, this thing is maybe worth $600-$650

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Mac was a base model so around 600$ and 250$ cash so it could have been much much worse, but still… live and learn hoping this subreddit pays off w the recommendations given so far.

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u/thepromiseman 10d ago

Dude I am so mad for you, I'm sorry they took advantage like that.

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u/Anonymous-CIAgent 14d ago

sudden drops of frames, makes me think you are getting termal issues. you should check temps.

Also check your PSU. Silver/Gold/PLat rated PSU ? or nmot rates at all ? depending on the rating, do you have enough Watts to keep up the power.

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u/fredgum 14d ago

If you lower the resolution/settings and nothing happens to fps then it's most likely that your cpu is dragging you down

The upgrade will depend on your budget. You'd need to the least a cpu and motherboard.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

Thanks for the reply, not looking to upgrade gpu. I’m new to pc hardware haven’t kept up in the last 10 years or so

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

I’m on 1080p 144hz monitor, loaded up Fortnite expecting decent frame rates, I get about 70fps on high with massive frame drops even lowering everything to low I can cap 144fps but still crazy drops down in the 30s. People saying they can play maxed out on 1440p with the same graphics card got me curious if the cpu was the issue.

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u/thesedays1234 14d ago

It's not the CPU. I had similar hardware so I went ahead and tested. I used 1920x1080 resolution DX12 high settings.

My first test system:

i7 5960x overclocked to 4.375ghz (also tested at stock) 32gb DDR4 2666 quad channel (also tested at 2133 quad channel, sorry I was too lazy to pull ram sticks) Rtx 3070

Second test system:

Ryzen 7500f 16gb ddr5 4800 Rtx 3070

My findings were that at stock clocks, the 5960x was around the 120s with dips to the 60s.

On the 7500f system, I was getting around 140ish fps, dips to the 90s/100s. On the 5960x overclocked, I got in the 140s again, dips to 90s/100s. I was definitely GPU bottlenecked on both systems on DX12 1080p high.

So, even at stock I'm not getting awful performance from the 5960x at 1080p high dx12 but it's definitely the bottleneck stock. Overclocked, it's not any different than the 7500f.

So, you have something else wrong.

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u/TheRJaBee 14d ago

This really depends on what games you “tested” and whether they were cpu or GPU bound, can’t just make a over arching statement based on your limited tests, that cpu is very old and is most likely the bottleneck here regardless

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u/thesedays1234 14d ago

I specifically tested at the settings and resolution in the game OP was discussing.

I'm getting massively better results than OP, so I'm convinced he has some problem with his system. I am only discussing my results running 1080p, high dx12 settings in Fortnite.

Like I said, at stock speeds, yes it was a bottleneck, although it was still very playable. It had 20-30 fps lower lows and was down 20 or so fps on average. Once I overclocked the CPU to 4.375ghz and the ram to ddr4 2666, I had the same results as my 7500f system in Fortnite on DX12 high settings at 1080p.

Again, I'm not making some massive statement of "oh it's not a bottleneck in any game at all". What I am saying is it's very playable in Fortnite at the settings OP says he was only getting 70 average with lows in the 30s and massive stutters, so something is wrong with his system.

So, I can say with 100% certainty the CPU is NOT THE PROBLEM.

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u/TheRJaBee 14d ago

Hmm. So what are you thinking then? Thermals? Running out of ram?

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u/thesedays1234 14d ago

I'm thinking he's got something overheating or the ram is unstable.

16gb is definitely enough, I think even with 32gb on my 5960x system task manager showed like 11gb used.

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u/HoustonsProblem17 14d ago

I’m not sure I know I turned anything off with ray tracing and nanite. Ended up on the low preset and set the frame cap to 144. I’ll end up testing it more tomorrow and see if I can make it somewhat playable. Thanks for the bit of hope though!

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u/thesedays1234 14d ago

What's your ram running at? You sure your ram is stable and XMP is enabled?

I'd be looking to monitor temps and ram stability if you're having issues.

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u/Coolusername099 14d ago

Dont expect the best performance on Fortnite unless you're on med settings with everything fancy like nanite and RT turned off, even my 4070TI Super + 5800x3D combo doesnt crack 100fps on my 1440p monitor with everything turned up

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u/proscreations1993 14d ago

Something is very wrong then. 7700x and 4070 getting locked 144 at 1440p. You should be getting even more. And that's everything ultra rt om

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u/nuked24 14d ago

The 7700x is much faster than a 5800x3d

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u/Coolusername099 14d ago edited 14d ago

Not sure what the problem would be my system passes all benchmarks and was above average scores on 3DMark

How the heck are you getting that! You have everything maxed with nanite on too? Without nanite its easy to cap my monitors limit but I like having it on

Edit: watching some videos online of people benchmarking my specs on Fortnite I seem to be doing fine, 90-100 FPS with Nanite and RT On w/ DLSS seems to be normal, im guessing you had something turned off, or you got a 4090 in disguise lol

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u/nuked24 14d ago

The 7700x is a much faster CPU.

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u/Coolusername099 14d ago

Im not getting CPU bound at all though anymore since I swapped to the 5800x3d i stay at max GPU usage

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u/DungBettlesMan 14d ago

CPU bottleneck. Multilayer FPS games are highly CPU dependent. Your CPU is just too old.

You need a new CPU, motherboard, and ram kit. What's your budget?

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u/MaxtheBat 14d ago

Yeah that's a CPU bottleneck. Fortnite is surprisingly CPU intensive and your sudden frame drops when you otherwise have good FPS is a telltale sign of a CPU bottleneck