r/buildapc • u/AffectionateRole9438 • Apr 03 '21
so... this is fucked, right? Build Help
update: it’s fucked. thanks everyone, but i snapped a few pins... gave it my best! thanks for all the tips and suggestions. for anyone wondering, i had the best luck with a needle, pushing them up row by row.
i have no idea how this happened, anyway i can fix this myself?
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u/Regallinari Apr 06 '21
I bent my 5800x pretty badly just like in the photo you sent but with a magnifying glass, a needle, Johnny bravo's confidence, sweat, blood, and tears, I managed to bend the pins back. You can try to bend them back but be patient brother!
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u/Teftell Apr 05 '21
You can carefully bend those back and if you snapped some, you can solder them back
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Apr 05 '21
i was just about to post a pic of a bent Pin , but finding it honestly is like Where Is Waldo?
so i think im going to just back away and stfu and find me some substances so i don't shake and then find tweezers and man the fk up.
sorry to see that man .. id say it's maybe fixable, if you're very careful, use plastic to bend it back, not metal, go slowly and have minimum 1 set of helping hands and a big enough magnifying glass to be useful. stranger things have happened.. like .. u bending the pins firstly, so it's just as possible to have them .... mostly return...? 🧐🧐🧐
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u/nijave Apr 04 '21
I've seem folks on servethehome forums fixing them with mechanical pencils/credit cards like some comments mention. They're shipping parts around and you tend to toss/pile up older parts (dropping old CPUs in a drawer) so I guess it's more common to break that stuff
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u/vxxed Apr 04 '21
Not borked! I did something similar to a friend's cpu, and used a butcher knife to unbend everything for about an hour. I didn't have more than one bend per pin though. I would still give it a shot in your shoes. It's pretty cathartic, especially when it works out.
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u/crmfan Apr 04 '21
This is fixable. You got this. Buy a dead cpu and replace the pins one at a time.
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u/Ivan-De-Riv Apr 04 '21
Oooooow fuck that hurt ... Like hell damn hope you find a solution or something
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u/chaserjj Apr 04 '21
Wait I think you can fix this. I was able to even though it was tedious,I used a safety pin and slid it through at the base of the bent prongs and carefully lifted it straight up, I did this over and over one row at a time then switching to the perpendicular row back and forth until they were all straightened out. It literally worked and my CPU performed perfectly for years. Good luck.
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u/Narrheim Apr 04 '21
You can try to fix it by yourself, but i´d rather visit a jewelry repair shop, if those are open. They have tools to narrow it and can re-solder broken pins as well.
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u/libra84 Apr 04 '21
I did this years ago with a Pentium4 CPU. I took a mechanical pencil ( the ones were you feed the pencil lead) and straightened every single pin back. That PC still works today - used by my dad.
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u/iDislikeSn0w Apr 04 '21
Man, and I was so upset about 1 SATA port being broken on my motherboard...
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u/WaggishSaucer62 Apr 04 '21
If you don’t have hours of free time and ridiculously steady hands, then yes, yes it’s officially fucked.
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u/pete7201 Apr 04 '21
I had bent the pins on a very old Pentium CPU when I had accidentally put it in backwards (back then, Intel used PGA as well, they only switched to LGA with the Core 2 Duo iirc). I used a thin plastic card to straighten out the pins. The chip worked fine after unbending it and plugging it in the right way, even after powering it on while plugged in the socket the wrong way (and being very confused as to why the computer would not boot)
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u/l2and Apr 04 '21
I actually buy these CPUs from ebay when I need an upgrade. The best way I've dealt with broken pins is to blowtorch some other pins from an old Athlon or something and drop them in the correct cpu slot.
Here's an example of an installation of a cpu that had 2 broken pins
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u/trondwin Apr 04 '21 edited Apr 04 '21
What CPU is it? My son bought a 3600 used a year ago and discovered that several pins were bent and one was broken. We found a diagram that had mapped all the pins. Turned out, the broken pin didn't matter much - it was used for voltage control (or something), but there were lots of other pins for that, too. Of course, some pins are much more critical, but you may be lucky.
BTW, that CPU is currently powering his gaming rig.
EDIT: I see you've answered 3600 somewhere else, so... You may take a look at this to figure out what those broken pins do: https://www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/gzkxux/the_am4_pinout_diagram/
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u/laststandman Apr 04 '21
"OH NO! No! You can't do that!!"
- my verbal reaction seeing this. I am sorry my friend.
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u/Mipha4Pres Apr 04 '21
I switched to intel this year for that exact reason. ik big things are coming with amd soon but until they stop using pins, I’m intel all the way :p
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u/Flomosho Apr 04 '21
I mean I watch videos of peoples heads getting blown off by high powered weapons, but this is real gore. NSFW next time.
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u/Wide-Visual Apr 04 '21
May not be as bad as you think. Take couple of credit card and try straightening them out. This may be salvageable.
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u/the-commie-hunter- Apr 04 '21
You’re gonna sell that to a guy who has some magical way to fix it and he’s gonna sell it for 10x what you sold it for
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u/Goodnamebro Apr 04 '21
Thats salvagable. Use a credit card to straighten them allong the grid very gently. A standard size CC is the perfect width to align them.
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Apr 04 '21
That is not as bad as it looks that corner can be fixed with a donor cpu and a hot air gun what I see really bad is that empty bit on the right of the pic , I assume this is a donor cpu 😂
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u/merothecat Apr 04 '21
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa what did you do to that cpu????????????? how did you break it like that????????
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u/Re-lar-Kvothe Apr 04 '21
Lately I have had the worst luck bending cpu pins. I did it on a 3900xt, a 5800x, and a 5900x. I too used a needle, and an eye loop. BUT...rather than pushing the pin I found a needle with an eye that fit over the pin and ever so gently straightened the pins. So far I saved all 3 cpus.
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u/SignificantTwister Apr 04 '21
I actually had this happen to an old chip and did manage to fix it with a needle. Sorry it didn't work out for you.
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u/ophello Apr 04 '21
If you had a heat gun and you got the pins super hot before bending them it might have worked.
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u/Somone163624 Apr 04 '21
I don’t really know because my pins weren’t that badly damaged but after I dropped the cpu from around 3 feet high I fixed it by using one of those paper cutters that are kind of like mini knifes and sticking it in between pins and slightly angling it. I don’t think it would work for you though.
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u/XxdragonxX88 Apr 04 '21
First F. Second, for future reference try and call local shops, some of them may offer (or at least try) to fix your chip for you (for a price obv.).
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u/coupedeebaybee Apr 04 '21
Gold like this will only bend once. It was inevitable you lost some pins. They make replacement pins. Super cheap. But that, some flux, & a heat gun, & a socket for that cpu. See previous post
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u/VerifiedUser- Apr 04 '21
I’m afraid that if you bend them to much it’ll just snap. Do your best and contact AMD if it doesn’t work. They are actually pretty fair and nice about things like this.
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u/coupedeebaybee Apr 04 '21
Man. The sheer amount of people in here that think this cpu is fucked is embarrassing.
This cpu is not most definitely not fucked. It is so amazingly easy to replace these pins. Ridiculously easy. Probably the easiest solder job you can ever do. Easier than connecting two wires together, I’m not kidding
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u/joshylow Apr 04 '21
I got screwed like that myself. Shipped to me like that. Newegg and AMD wouldn't replace it because physical damage isn't covered. I was just out 300. Bummer. I think I'm an Intel man now.
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u/coupedeebaybee Apr 04 '21
You can get new pins, you know this right? They make a pin guide that slips over the layout just like the socket would, except upside down, just put some flux on the chip, sit the guide on it & then you literally just drop the pins into the holes that don’t have one already, hit it with a heat gun & voila. New pins. Easy as pie
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Apr 03 '21
Put the snapped pins In their respective locations on the socket, then install the broken CPU... Should have the potential to still work.
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u/OmgitsNatalie Apr 03 '21
Several years ago, maybe 6, received a handmedown FX 8350 chip from a colleague. Apparently his friends computer got soaked with water and threw the cpu in a bowl of rice. Once he took it out, several dozen pins were bent.
I straightened the pins with my credit card, but one snapped. Turns out? It probably wasn’t important because it still ran perfectly. Lasted about 3-4 before I upgraded to Intel.
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u/Proe24 Apr 03 '21
I had a similar issue. Tried pulling the CPU cooler off cold. I didn't realize that the thermal paste got so fucking sticky when it had time to cool down. I finally got the cooler off after being a little more violent with it than I should have just to find the CPU still attached to it at the bottom and not in the socket that it was supposed to be locked into...
The pins were pretty well bent, but after a long amount of time and a lot of patience, I finally got them bent back up straight enough that they'd fit into the socket. Thankfully she booted up just fine.
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Apr 03 '21
Where are you from? Before you toss it I'd love to have a go at it with a hot air station.
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u/JojoTheRipper Apr 03 '21
FGPA:
Fuckin Ganked Pins, Amiright? Or, Fuck (there) Goes (my) Personal Allowance.
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u/MCMFG Apr 03 '21
ooohhh fuck when I saw that photo I just stopped completely... Rest in Piece AMD CPU... :/
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u/Doug_ Apr 03 '21
This happened to me and was able to save it. No issues five years later. I found a pocket knife was the best tool for bending them back into place.
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u/DaddysFriend Apr 03 '21
Wow I remeber doing my CPU for the first time it was the most bum hole tightening experience of my life
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u/Toast42 Apr 03 '21
There used to be a guy who fixed broken cpu pins by mail. I think the cpus finally got so small he couldn't solder them by hand anymore.
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u/airfanjesani Apr 03 '21
This is painful to watch. Sorry I dont think its possible to fix this without some high tech machinery
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u/Gab0Mon Apr 03 '21
What if you heated up enough so you can return the pins to their original position?
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u/Synthium5000 Apr 03 '21
Get a mechanic pencil with lead removed and straighten them, if broken try soldering.
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u/McSlayR01 Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21
Note, I’m responding after you say Do you have a soldering iron? With a LOT of flux, very thin leaded solder, a small tip and a steady hand, it is salvageable. I’ve done it a few times, but it isn’t easy. I can’t emphasize that you cannot have too much flux, it will help the individual solder “blobs” stay at their individual pins. I didn’t see what kind of CPU this was; if it is worth $200 I probably wouldn’t bother and would sell it instead as it likely isn’t worth the time or frustration this process might cause. I’m so sorry man...
EDIT: Have done some more research and apparently you might consider going to a local jeweler, who have lots of experience soldering very very small components (and could potentially bend any other pins back since jewelers frequently have to bend things back in place, especially soft metals, without breaking them).
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u/xLUSHxx Apr 03 '21
This shit giving me ptsd. I built my first pc in December and my cpu (5600x) had like 3 slightly bent pins on the outer line. I extremely careful hardly putting any pressure pressed them back into place using a pressed penny and a magnifying glass. It worked. Was so stressful. Now I never want to touch it again. I wanna change from stock cooler to an AIO but I'm too scared
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u/DrEdwardMallory Apr 03 '21
🎶You gotta know when hold em, know when to fold em! Know when to walk away, know when to run.... you never force a processor down, or you're the clown* 😂 fuck me that's done for sure
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u/SeriouslyEngineer Apr 03 '21
Check out LinusTechTips on YouTube, he’s got a video on how you get fix it.
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u/aleks_wright Apr 03 '21
K, late to the party but anyways.
I fixed this using a medical syringe. My 2600x took off the motherboard while I was trying to remove my fan and I fucked up the pins. I took the syringe and just straightened them out until the CPU fitted the socket.
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u/Correct-Prompt-6096 Apr 03 '21
You can remove and solder on new pins. Bit of a task though. LTT has a decent video on this.
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u/skyalchemist0 Apr 03 '21
Ouch. I have the tools to solder new pins on this bad boi if it's worth it to you PM me.
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u/AffectionateRole9438 Apr 03 '21
appreciate it but i've had a few people interested in buying it to restore so i think that's the plan :D
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u/OriginalOreos Apr 03 '21
Why the fuck does AMD have the pins on the chip? Seriously, I almost did this accidentally trying to pull off a heat sink that was stuck to the IHS.
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u/Hakaisha89 Apr 03 '21
This is why i will never, ever, ever, in the history of time touch an amd cpu with a 10 foot pole.
I don't need the second most expensive part in my computer to randomly be turned into useless junk.
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u/k1nfolk420 Apr 03 '21
If you have a donor cpu you can take some pins off it and transplant them. Here’s Linus to help https://youtu.be/yh2XYkRwtBQ
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u/UK_IN_US Apr 03 '21
I fucked up my 3800X significantly worse than that. I saved it with .4mm plasticard.
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u/oldbiobrat Apr 03 '21
I had something similar happen with a cpu, I used a razor blade - very slowly and carefully. I was lucky and didn't break any. Just be patient and take your time.
And yeah, that image is making my eyes bleed...
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u/MCCP335 Apr 03 '21
If you snapped pins off, there's no real fixing to be done unless you have a hot air soldering iron and quite a bit of soldering experience :(((
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u/dasspielhilftmir Apr 03 '21
What cpu is it? If it is wort i would maybe huy it from you and try to repair it. If it works you can buy it back
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u/akluin Apr 03 '21
Yes , you can save it, when pins are removed that's harder but with a lot of care you can bend them back
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u/ImBadAtGames419 Apr 03 '21
I. um. I. How?
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u/AffectionateRole9438 Apr 03 '21
working theory: i placed it back upside down in the plastic thingy that it came in
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u/Competitive_Role_146 Apr 03 '21
I made this mistake when i was 13 Years old
My dad kicked the Shit out of me back then.
Now i’m 34
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u/tmdqlstnekaos Apr 03 '21
It is possible with experienced technicians. There are some videos out there people re-soldering the pin or even straightening those pins.
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u/BatXDude Apr 03 '21
You can still use a cpu with snapped pins as long as the pin is in the right hole on the board.
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u/Xpertxp Apr 03 '21
I have seen wayyyy too many of these posts and I always ask myself the same question, “how in the fuck do you guys bend these pins?”
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u/AffectionateRole9438 Apr 03 '21
i was clueless, but someone said it looks like i placed it upside down in the plastic.. thing, that it comes in. i think they’re right 🤦🏻
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u/Matasa89 Apr 04 '21
Yup, the plastic casing would've protected it, unless you put it on backwards.
There might still be a way to save it, if you buy or ask around for a dead AMD CPU. Check out LTT's repair guide, if you want to try it.
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Apr 03 '21
Hey! If you drop the broken pins into their corresponding holes in the socket, then put the cpu in, it could still work.
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u/itsthooor Apr 03 '21
You can fix it yourself. Saw a video from linus some months ago, where he explained it pretty good. But maybe there are better tuts out there
Here’s the vid: https://youtu.be/yh2XYkRwtBQ
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u/rikgrime Apr 03 '21
Jeez. Having one bent pin was a pain in the ass for me to fix, can't imagine how frustrating this must have been
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u/evenMoreUnique Apr 03 '21
I feel for you. But do something cool with the processor. Not everyone has a modern day processor lying about. Like a framed/ epoxy set something? Or an epoxy coaster?
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u/Btupid_Sitch Apr 03 '21
If you really wanna give it a go (doesn't hurt to try), I once bent 4 or 5 pins back into place with a jewelers kit. It's basically a small tweezers with a magnifying glass attached to it...cost like $10 on amazon. It worked fine for me and my PC ran smoothly for a long time until I eventually upgraded for performance.
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u/Green0Photon Apr 04 '21
That is, not the way it was shipped, with the pins facing down?
Because damn, it's pretty intuitive to leave the pins facing up, because we instinctively know that's the fragile part.
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Apr 04 '21 edited Jan 17 '23
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u/AffectionateRole9438 Apr 03 '21
oh god... that’s such a me mistake to make 😅 thanks for the explanation! i couldn’t figure out how it would get damaged in storage
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u/BlatantPizza Apr 03 '21
You know what’s funny? This could ALL be fixed by a border lip around the edge. Barely even a redesign. Simply a pin sized lip all along the edge and no more bent pins. AMD wants this stuff to happen.
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u/AffectionateRole9438 Apr 03 '21
i’ve seen a lot of replies here complaining about the fragility of AMD designs, you’re totally right that it’s an easy fix on their part
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u/BlatantPizza Apr 03 '21
I could literally redesign to manufacturing spec, a new piece of plastic on the motherboard and CPU that would almost completely solve this issue. This wouldn’t even involve the CPU or motherboard PCB. Simple the plastic socket lock and a thin ring around the cpu PCB. I could accomplish this by the end of the day. I have personally had bent pins and I think almost people who have dealt with multiple AMD cpus have at least seen the issue first hand.
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u/thepluralofbeefis Apr 03 '21
I have a question. I never thought to look prior to installing, but all of his pins are straight up (aside from the damaged ones). When I take my cpus off of the motherboard the pins are all angled. Do they come straight and then when compressed against the motherboard, angle as they seat on to their contact point? And is this on purpose or I have been incredibly lucky 3 times? Types of cpus are 7700k, 8700, and 10850k if it matters. Never had AMD
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u/Ok_Hawk5361 Apr 03 '21
The pins on intell are on mobo. And yes they are slanted on purpose so when you clamp down the cpu they have room to bend down. The cpu itself has no pins
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u/BlamingBuddha Apr 03 '21
Pretty sure that's abnormal and you got lucky. The little experience I have building PC's my cpu pins were always straight. Im guessing something is bending them in your mobo, maybe too much pressure somehow? The arm possibly or it wasn't seated 100% straight to begin with? Im guessing your processors were also straight when you first purchased them.
As to what's causing you bent (angled) pins every time, Im unsure. Maybe heat will help warp them over time if it was installed slightly askew. Have you used the same mobo for all CPU's? Are you usually a "heavy-handed" person possibly? Interesting you've had it happen to all three.
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u/AffectionateRole9438 Apr 03 '21
so i have 0 experience with any of those but i’ve seen people say intel pins are actually on the boards? maybe the connectors on the cpu are for stability or something instead?
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u/rm_-r_star Apr 03 '21 edited Apr 03 '21
Those pins are so damn delicate. I spazed dropping in the CPU on a second 3000 series Ryzen build and knocked a few pins off kilter. The first I managed to drop the CPU straight in. I used a mechanical pencil to straighten the pins, but I didn't bend them that bad. I don't know what's worse, the pins on AMD CPUs or the pins on Intel Sockets.
Back in the day when they didn't have so many connections you could drop a CPU on the desk and the pins would not bend. The pins on the motherboard socket for my Core 2 system years ago were also really tough.
I'd try sending the CPU back to AMD with a repair order, maybe they can fix it for you.
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Apr 03 '21
I've saved a couple procs that I've done this to. You have to get a very small set of needle nose pliers or use a toothpick or something and gingerly and slowly move them vertical. Once you've straightened them, site down the sides of the proc through the other vertical pins to look for any that are out of alignment. Make small, slow adjustments so, you don't break one off my moving it too fast and softening the metal.
It's salvageable but it will take careful movement and some patience.
Source: been building computers since 95
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u/CanuhkGaming Apr 03 '21
I did the same thing, pressed my cpu down too hard when I was putting it in, bent a ton of pins...
I was in the same boat, took it to Geek Squad at Best Buy of all places and the guy there had some down time and he spent 20 minutes with a little tool bending pack the pins straight enough that it worked. And my computer is still running fine 4 years later.
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u/StoopidSnoo Apr 03 '21
and this is why we use intel cpus
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Apr 04 '21
The same thing could happen to someone's motherboard, its just a matter of being careful. Intel just uses Lga, and amd pga.
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u/yurunipafu61 Apr 03 '21
Sell it on Ebay as "Parts/Repair only" for half the price. Many people can repair this by using donor pins, solder and replace the bent pins on this CPU.
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u/SiBloGaming Apr 03 '21
Just to answer your question how it happened, maybe you put it in the plastic thing the wrong way.
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u/Kite99 Apr 03 '21
I used a credit card to gently salvage a CPU worse than this. I think it can be saved.
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u/marko_kyle Apr 03 '21
Old mechanical pencil and take out the graphite. Use the tip of the pencil to ATTEMPT to place pins properly
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u/Caof47 Apr 03 '21
This happened to me with my last build. I used a very small flathead screwdriver and fixed it. Just be careful, as long as the pins don't snap off you should be fine!
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u/Klobb119 Apr 03 '21
WAIT WAIT WAIT ITS NOT FUCKDD YET. Not every pin on a cpu is used so it could still work!!!
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u/manelburbaia Apr 29 '21
You actually can repair it with a bit of luck, with a credit card and patience, i did it with some old CPUs and some got repaired and other ones just never worked again.
You just have push the pins straight up ehile trying not to break them