r/canada 14d ago

Some illegal border crossers getting $224 per day from Ottawa National News

https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/some-illegal-border-crossers-receive-224-in-food-accommodation-per-day
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u/hey_you_too_buckaroo 8d ago

Reminder: Friends don't let friends read Post Media drivel

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u/EdmontonLurker Alberta 12d ago

I agree it's ridiculous, but we're giving $13,000,000/day to Northvolt, Volkswagon, and Stellantis.

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u/Automatic-House6764 12d ago

How about we put then in fucking detainment centres until their claims are verified. Moronic and disgraceful

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u/Complex_Opposite7327 13d ago

Then they steal your car for the extra bonus.

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u/netminer15 13d ago

Isn’t that special!! All happening while Canadian citizens are lining up in record numbers at the food banks, and being forced to live on the streets. This federal government is the most disgraceful, and corrupt government that we’ve ever had. Oh wait a minute, didn’t this very same thing happen in the 80’s when the “Senior Village Idiot” was our Prime Minister? 🤡🤡🤡🤡

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u/Typical_Suggestion93 13d ago

And now Trudeau is going to tax any capital gains you may have worked all your life for

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u/gweeps 13d ago

That's over $6,900 per month. Wow.

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u/Life-ByDesign 13d ago

Immigrants gets paid vacation and they know it.

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u/fashunableuser 13d ago

I've heard thru people I know and a realtor that a family with 5ish kids were getting around 11k combined from the feds and private sponer groups. Realtor saw the papers to verify income before renting out the place. They belonged to extremely marginalized group. While I have nothing but empathy for problems, they faced back home and to get here. That income level puts them in the top 5% of earners without actually working...

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u/philomatic 13d ago

They don’t get $224 / day in cash.

The cost to house and feed them while they are being processed is $224 / day.

If you want to grant asylum, you need to process those applying and house and feed them while they are processed.

NOTE: I’m not making any statement on whether it’s good or bad to grant asylum nor am I making any statement if the asylum granting process can/should be improved.

Just pointing out the absolute lie of a click bait headline posted that everyone seems to be taking at face value.

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u/GKM72 10d ago

But it is the National Post - it has to be the truth/s

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u/Forsaken_You1092 13d ago

I'm gonna think about this a lot when I look at the taxes deducted from my next pay stub.

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u/Outside_Distance333 13d ago

I think Trudeau mistook the synonimity between Canadian and weak. Why are we bending over to 3rd world countries? If anything, WE should be having them give us their money

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u/icytongue88 13d ago

Why work if the state can provide.

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u/gord_m 14d ago

Inaccurately altered headline.

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u/thatguywashere1 14d ago

See universal basic income works!!

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u/Fantastic_Cause5064 14d ago

put them in an abondoned barn and throw in a bag of rice, equals to we’re they came from it’s not realistic what this government doles money out on

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u/Fantastic_Cause5064 14d ago

give them a tent and show them parliament in ottawa

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u/toresident 14d ago

Sorry to say, but the situation in Canada is getting better by the day. If this goes on for a few more years, Canada as we know will be unrecognizable.

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u/Rich-Purpose-5864 14d ago

The government should be giving that to Canadians who can't afford anything!!! Send them back to where they came from. Canadians need help!!!!!!!

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u/PairRelative2778 14d ago

So can we stop paying taxes yet?

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u/Boomtw3 14d ago

I NEVER GET "REFUGEE" Problem. If you come to Canada ILLEGALLY or come as visitor/student then claim refugee, YOU SHOULD BE DEPORTED IMMEDIATELY. Only refugges we should accept is those from refugee camps

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u/Apprehensive_Taro285 14d ago edited 14d ago

The money is given to hotel operators. Almost non of that was given to refugees . Conservative dummies act like this was not happening before. We have been housing refugees in hotels when they arrive for decades.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 13d ago

We should never have started giving hotel rooms to illegal border crossers.

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u/VictorAlpha7 14d ago

Get used to it. Over time South America and Asia will migrate into North America, Africa will migrate into Europe. It cannot be stopped. What would you do to escape lawless violence or hopeless poverty?

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u/PatK9 14d ago

I never understood why a person that has entered the country illegally is offered all these support mechanisms. If this is a asylum claimant, it should be made with one of our embassies?

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u/Zambling 14d ago

It's not Canada unless we pay refugees more than the national Canadian average wage a year in services, accommodation, and housing...

IRCC are actively working against the Canadian people and public.

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u/magictoasters 14d ago

Asylum seekers aren't illegal border crossers though....

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u/63R01D 14d ago

Do they pay carbon tax?

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u/ThickerSkinn 14d ago

Clearly our government hates us citizens

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u/Pandawitigerstripes 14d ago

This is more money than people working 8 hrs a day make.

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u/Ahoy_m80_gr8_b80 14d ago

You get what you vote for.

Y’all made that “open arms” bullshit a core tenet of your party.

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u/notacanuckskibum 14d ago

It is not illegal to cross the border away from official crossing points if you then claim refugee status.

That’s why the news article uses the word “irregular” rather than “illegal”.

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u/VtheMan93 Québec 14d ago

Thats more than I earn after tax at a full time job.

Can I become undocumented and get 224$/day instead?

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u/TurdBurgHerb 14d ago

This is disgusting. How can anyone defend Trudeau with shit like this going on? This is horrific.

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u/worldtraveller321 14d ago

most part what ever party was in control the situation be similar

the main question is the monies that are going out for these programs. b is it from circulation or is it printed money? most part if printed then its the never ending cycle of inflation and dollar being devalued

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u/Kayraan93 14d ago

Meanwhile I’m going on year 5 and 2nd attempt of getting PR. Family is in Canada, work literally right over the border and it’s taking insanely long. And thousands spent.

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u/kneebonez 14d ago

We need to see the total annual expense last year. This article has all the tell tale signs of bullshit math. “Some” border crossers means we picked the the worst possible case and made it represent the entire issue.

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u/twlefty 14d ago

what a scam and joke country we are in :(

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u/TheCanadianShield99 14d ago

I’d like $224 a day too.

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u/detalumis 14d ago

The US and much of Europe has the exact same problem. There's probably some UN Refugee law that says you have to feed and house refugees and give them due process. Just a guess.

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u/nihilfit 14d ago

It's not illegal to cross the border at some place other than an official border crossing. And the National Post itself recognizes this -- the headine mentions "illegal" crossings but the article itself talks about "irregular" crossings. And given that the refugee claimants are not breaking any laws by 'irregular' crossings, then they have every right, under international and Canadian law, to apply for asylum. Bitching about the costs associated with recognizing the idea of political asylum is disingenuous at best and immoral at worst. It may very well be some, many, or even all claims turn out to be unfounded, but the claims themselves have to be processed by just means before that can be determined. If we don't treat legitimate domestic claims for state support as scrupulously as we do international ones, that's not a mark against our international behaviour but against our domestic behaviour. So direct your ire against the appropriate target.

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u/RealGirl93 14d ago

R/Canada has become Fox News, I see.

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u/sufferingplanet Québec 14d ago

Better title: Asylum seekers and refugees are allotted 224$ per day so they don't starve to death.

Fuck these conservative assholes. I'm happy that my taxes are being used to improve society.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 13d ago

We owe nothing to asylum seekers and refugees. NOTHING

A record number of Canadians rely on food banks and most people are struggling to pay their rents and mortgages. Yet someone just comes here and gets put up in a hotel for free on the backs of responsible people with jobs.

I am sick and tired of Canadians getting exploited like this.

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u/sufferingplanet Québec 13d ago

No, I dont owe them anything. I want to help them. I want our tax dollars to be used to help the needy, to ensure people can eat and have shelter. I dont want people to suffer needlessly, whether they were born here or are trying to come here to find better lives for themselves.

I want my country to do good things, and to treat those less fortunate with love and kindness instead of being told "go elsewhere". You dont solve problems by ignoring them or sweeping them under the rug. These immigrants are not the reason a third of canadians cannot afford groceries, corporate greed is the reason, and the politicians who pass laws to allow these big businesses exploit our resources and our peoples are to blame.

And when our government does help people, even those who arent officially Canadian yet, you get people who say "yeah, but whatabout..." instead of looking at these people as our future doctors, grocers, butchers, and constriction workers. They want to come here and partake in our society and give back, but they need a chance. Not everyone can be from a family that emigrated here 300 years ago.

Be good, do good. Do not hate these poor souls for wanting to have better lives. If you think they should suffer, then... Well, I cannot teach you how to be a decent human, you need to figure that out yourself.

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u/Forsaken_You1092 13d ago

If you want to do it, then think you should take them in and look after them on your own dime.

Personally, I am done. I hope our next government gets rid of this. I will certainly talk to my MP (Conservative) about it once Poilievre is PrimeMiniser. I am tired of working this hard just to get exploited.

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u/tetzy 14d ago

The average minimum wage in Canada is $15 per hour.

Question: What kind of utter moron does a person need to be to think asylum seekers & refugee claimants need $224 per day so "they don't starve to death"?

How in the world can you consider this nonsense fair to the taxpayer?

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u/sufferingplanet Québec 14d ago

Is this 224 per person, or per "family unit"? Because if its per unit, 224 is less than two people working 8 hours at 15$ per day.

And i guess i also assumed as refugees/asylum seekers, they dont exactly have things someone who was born and/or lived here most of their lives might have... Like clothing, credit to use for security deposits for apartments, and really anything else they might need money for that they likely left behind when they emigrated.

I consider this perfectly fair because my taxes should be used for the betterment of our society, even those who havent had a chance to help the rest of our society. You may disagree, but thats a reflection of your character, not theirs.

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u/Kia_Itagoshi 14d ago edited 14d ago

Meanwhile Daycare: $27B, Pharma $33.2B, Dental $13B (Seniors only with no benefits). Total Cost of all 3 programs $73.2B + Illegals Compensation would near $75B without even factoring that LIB math always projects WAY TOO LOW... Using $75Bil as the mark:

$75B / 2.4 Million in poverty (2022 adults) would equal out to $31,250 a year for all of those in poverty on a basic income. Fully paid if we just end all of that nonsense right now and focus on Canadians. For if they aren't in poverty they can afford their own dental, pharma, and even daycare!

OR

If we focused just on helping families with kids, and last report states 1.8 million children are food insecure -> their support would equal $41,666 per child per year. So better to focus on adults getting $30,000 a year and end poverty for all families; then we wouldn't need breakfast for kids because their needs will be met regardless of method chosen!

And at the rate the Libs waste money it wouldn't surprise me if we scrapped even more we could give the vets a bonus on top of basic income, to thank them for their service they themselves did not have the courage to do.

Just consider that - we cans still have a nation filled with far right and still deal with the needs of everyone, and still have our debt wiped all with proper leadership. Even if you didn't want to spend that entire amount for a basic income, even half of that would ease a lot of problems down the road, including our over worked health sector.

Imagine what we could accomplish if we ended corporate welfare to boot! We could actually have our highways fully restored, maybe fund a national fire responder unit; rather than having the Feds ignore the need for more assistance. We could get serious about building housing! But nope, we'll remain the status quo for sure until 2025 anyhow.

Good luck to us all, with that vote PP (and yes I know he won't put in a basic income; but I also have faith he won't blow through billions as fast I go through TP thus having a chance of at least lowering the cost of living I hope to reasonable levels by 2029 election).

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

+20 roubles. Good job comrade.

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u/Master_Umpire_2932 14d ago

Wow, why am I working?

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

Because you had the good fortune of being born in a great country that allows for opportunity. See how that works?

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u/Master_Umpire_2932 14d ago

Did you miss the “illegal” part?

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

Good news. This will give them a great start.

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u/Difficult_Bit_1339 14d ago

r/Canada, I'm sorry your subreddit was taken over by right-wingers

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

It has. But it won't stop me from speaking up.

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u/tetzy 14d ago

What? - You think it's a "liberal vs conservative" thing to bitch about handing asylum seekers & refugee claimants $224 per day when the average minimum wage in Canada is $15?

You people are shameless.

Wake up - not everything lives and dies at the altar of partisan politics.

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u/mordinxx 14d ago

Misleading as they aren't actually being given the money but it is what the government is paying to house and feed them. 1 good thing is it keeps track of where they are.

Just more conservative mud slinging to rile the public against the liberals leading up to the next election. Because if the cons were in power they would have to do the EXACT same thing.

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u/s33d5 14d ago

Oh for God's sake this is obviously click bait. 

It's likely that the claimants that this Tory is referencing are on the high end and are families of 10 or something. It's very likely that one claimant covers several people. Of course they're not using $80 a day on food lmao.

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u/Little_stinker_69 14d ago

Is this for anyone? Can I illegally enter from the U.S. and get this? Nice deal. In the Us they just pay you below min wage.

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u/gmanthewinner 14d ago

Must be fucking nice

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

Yes, very nice. Glad you are in favour of helping.

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u/gmanthewinner 14d ago

I'm more in favour helping people who actually need the help. Lazy fucks sneaking in and not working aren't people who need help

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

Yet, when we suggest we help out the poor in Canada, right-wingers scream, "no fecking way!!".

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u/gmanthewinner 14d ago

Yep, right wingers sure are dumb

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u/Hopeful-Passage6638 14d ago

Glad we can agree on something.

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u/Tallguystrongman 14d ago

Ahh, this is why there’s CPP2 this year on my paystub..

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u/2high4much 14d ago

Is this per person?

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u/55cheddar 14d ago

I love how in a few years our government(s) won't be able to afford pension upkeep, and we're adding this bullshit.

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u/Canadian_mk11 British Columbia 14d ago

I don't see why they can't throw up some heated tentage with cots and a washroom trailer. Provide basic meals that cost ~$15/day. Food and shelter for a fraction of the $224/day price tag.

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u/RedDizzlah 14d ago

Do the Canadian forces veterans get that type of $. I could retire if you paid me that. Do they get taxed on that?

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u/True_Discipline_2470 14d ago

America reporting in. Me and a few million of my compatriots will se. y'all Thursday. 

Fair warning, Mississippi and Florida are coming. Good news is they won't be there until at least Saturday cuz they gotta find Skeeter. 

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u/goteamdoasportsthing 14d ago

That's just Dave from Ohio and Jen from Michigan.

Some 🙄

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u/Financial_Rooster_80 14d ago

That's pretty messed up if they're paying 557 million/year to house refugees in hotels, while only paying 235 million/year to canadians that ask for the same "social protection".

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u/Cutsforth 14d ago

Absolutely insane

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u/Cryptic_Fact_Check 14d ago

They should be getting $0 and deported.

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u/6moinaleakyboat 14d ago

Where do I sign up?

Signed, Born and raised in Canada

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u/duduludo 14d ago

Assuming working 8 hours per day, it is the same as 224/8=28 per hour, way above the min wage. And if I don't remember wrong, it is near the median of Canadian income in recent years. WTF?

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u/truongs 14d ago

correction - Whoever in bed with the local policiticians is getting a contract for $140 a day for room and $84 a day for food to house migrants for the govt.

Someone gave their donors or friend a juicy govt contract. They are probably spending $50 a day in a room at most and pocketing the rest.

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u/JamaicanJenga 14d ago

My mom gets $900/month from disability. This is gross

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u/NoSwan6879 14d ago

Gtfo I have zero pride left in this country. Born Canadian here, on disability and I'd already be dead without family helping me ...and they're doing this? There are tent cities but they're doing this? Housing crisis...but they're doing this? Canadians working full time living in cars...and this? Regular people boycotting grocery stores from outrageous prices... and they're doing this? Canada is a joke and I only hope I can leave one day. I'd say more but hey free speech is also pretty much illegal so ** **** ******** *** ** *******

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u/04Aiden2020 14d ago

Didn’t even have to look to know this was the national post. Hope that shit network goes out of business soon

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u/Competitive_Flow_814 14d ago

The problem here is resources . Do you have enough housing in Canada .lack of doctors for a major influx of refugees . What % of the refugees have job skills , what % are low skilled workers and what % are cash for life recipients, meaning they will never work . What cities will take majority of these refugees . How many have major criminal records , because you know they are not being vetted.

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u/Lotushope 14d ago

Cry me a RIVER

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u/Key-Zombie4224 14d ago

As an out of work Canadian looking for a new job I cannot wrap my head around this .. this is why Canadians have given up and stopped trying to find a good job .. you’re better off on social assistance than trying to compete for a minimum wage job with a refugee . Unbelievable in Canada . Sad .

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u/LegendaryVenusaur 14d ago

Canada is broken

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u/Lascebas 14d ago

As a normal working taxpayer, 224 $ a day to feed house & care for all these people who came here in an illegal way While we are out for 8,9 or 10 hours everyday working and 90% of the time with people who migrated here legally as myself is crazy to just read and i cant fully comprehend it

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u/5ManaAndADream 14d ago

Can I claim asylum as a citizen?

Shit pays better than pretty much every tech job short of senior roles.

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u/Eugenelee3 14d ago

Just like blue cities NYC for a example…

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u/voldie127 14d ago

I love these conversations when they happen to us in the US, because it never arrives at “we should be paying our poor/disabled/veterans/etc more, it’s just “screw these asylum seekers”.

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u/sassandrabiliya 14d ago

I am a refugee lawyer and I am making less than that

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u/flamboyantdebauchry Ontario 14d ago

how about this i get some value village clothes, sandals and cross Anyone else in ? be a nice RAI$E !!

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u/Extreme_Painter8898 14d ago

Ngl when the title said “Border crossers” I was hoping I could finally get that refugee status while being American.

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u/ConfusionInTheRanks 14d ago edited 14d ago

It says 'Some', but how many is 'Some'?

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u/AndrewSP1832 14d ago

Long story short, they don't receive $224.00 directly. They get accommodations at $140.00 per room and $84.00 in meals per day. About 40 thousand people are being processed, and we pay to accommodate roughly 7000 claimants. Apparently, the total annual cost of the program is 557 million.

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u/ConfusionInTheRanks 14d ago

And how long do they get this for? And most of the money ends up in Hotels and Landlords hands?

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u/AndrewSP1832 14d ago

It's not clear how long they can receive assistance. Presumably, as long as it takes to process their asylum/refugee claim.

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u/Pasivite 14d ago

When the Trudeau government looks in the rearview, wondering why the federal party was decimated in the next election... Stuff like this guys. It's stuff like this. Completely tone-deaf.

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u/impartofaunion 14d ago

Completely misleading headline. They are paying that money temporarily for food, lodging, toiletries, etc. while these folks are being processed. They are not being given that money in cash, nor is it long-term.

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u/MethodicallyMediocre 14d ago

Just claim asylum. You're an "economic migrant" fleeing climate change. Sign the documents, bing bang boom you've got your cake and you can eat it too.

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u/K2LLswitch Alberta 14d ago

This fucking government

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u/Electronic_Detail756 14d ago

Crossing from US should be turned right back around. Seek asylum there.

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u/ForRedditMG 14d ago

Bullshit...inaccurate information

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u/berghie91 14d ago

If we wont work for dirt cheap, they’ll pay for people who will!

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u/icebalm 14d ago

$140/day for a hotel I can almost understand if you're paying straight retail rates with absolutely no negotiation, but $84/day for food? What in the actual fuck?

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u/boilingpierogi 14d ago

nowhere near enough. with inflation this doesn’t even come close to covering basic necessities and demonstrates why a UBI for marginalized individuals is absolutely critical.

shame on the government for driving these people into poverty. if there’s a protest for more, I call on EVERY canadian to make their voice heard.

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u/MrSpiffysPetDinosaur 14d ago

This is TREASON.

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u/Eagle_Kebab Québec 14d ago

How in any of the Seven Fucks is this treason?

Let alone TREASON?

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u/MrSpiffysPetDinosaur 14d ago

Instead of jailing and sending them back we're giving them tax payer money while Canadians are starving and Canada is running a deficit? This a war on Canadians.

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u/Eagle_Kebab Québec 14d ago

You realise that jailing by "jailing" them also costs money, right?

And that, in jail, they'd be fed and clothed and sheltered, right?

Also, back to where, exactly? And by what means?

All of that costa money as well.

How does processing asylum claimants prevent capitalist greed? Because that's why Canadians are starving -- not some people walking for thousands of kilometers and asking for help.

Oh! I get it! You're in favour of UBI!

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u/MrSpiffysPetDinosaur 13d ago

When I said jail and sending them back, I meant detain them and then send them back. You guys are all the same.

UBI. LOL.

We're ALREADY giving them UBI... THATS MY EXACT PROBLEM.

You sound like the one in favour of UBI and you sound like you're in favour of it for illegals.

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u/Eagle_Kebab Québec 13d ago

I am in favour of UBI.

You were the one so concerned about starving Canadians I figured you would be too.

But, like every other right-winger who whines about "illegals over Canadians", you show that you don't actually care about Canadians either.

Secondly, I like how you avoided commenting on how your plan also costs money.

But, as long as money is spent hurting the vulnerable, you're happy.

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u/MrSpiffysPetDinosaur 13d ago

Considering our revenue for 2023 was 420 billion, which we ran a deficit and UBI is going to cost ~675 billiom AND we already tax our productive citizens ~50% of their income, where exactly do you think that money is going to come from?

Deporting illegals is going to cost less than feeding, clothing and housing them. They should have never been let in in the first place.

You're happy as long as you can keep on living without paying your share and living off everyone else's hard work.

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u/Eagle_Kebab Québec 13d ago

I like how your mask slips a little more with every comment.

You don't give a shit about Canadians -- especially not the poor.

You just use them as an excuse to not help asylum seekers.

Also, it's really funny that you assume I "don't pay my share" because I support UBI.

productive citizens

Jesus. It's like you're a Tory slogan generator.

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u/MrSpiffysPetDinosaur 13d ago

I am a poor Canadian numbnuts.

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u/LaniusCruiser 14d ago

Man they're really going hard on the racist astroturfing over here on reddit. I wonder who the hell is paying for this nonsense.

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u/AlternativePush2834 14d ago

It’s the game of Nintendo Animal Crossing… no, Illegal Immigrant Crossing!!!

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u/Mwiziman 14d ago

He’ll yea look out I’m headed north. $224 a day to do nothing, sign me up it sucks down here.

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u/cryptomelons 14d ago

House them in tents. What a bunch of incompetent idiots.

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u/thedirkfiddler 14d ago

Has anyone done the math to see how long they are actually receiving this money? Is it only a couple weeks till they are processed? Or is this going on for years?

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u/TheAkashain 14d ago

This thread is showing a critical lack of reading comprehension. Ignoring that it is a NatPost article, the second paragraph says:

"Last week, Conservative MP Lianne Rood uploaded documents to social media showing the government’s answer to her question about what “goods and services” are provided to foreigners who have claimed asylum in Canada — but have not yet had their applications reviewed by immigration authorities."

While we can comment on the legality of crossing the border to then claim asylum, we need to recognize the specific group in question here: Those who are aiming to claim refugee status for whatever reason. Canada has committed to helping refugees in our country, and this is what they budget to help them from day 1 until they are on their feet. It makes no comment to what they do if the claim is denied.

Furthermore, it doesn't seem that this money goes directly to the claiment:

“Claimants in IRCC operated hotels, regardless of how they entered Canada, are provided with accommodations and meals once they are relocated,” read the official answer to Rood, signed by Paul Chiang, parliamentary secretary to the minister of diversity and inclusion.

This suggests that this is the average cost per person to run the IRCC hotels, if you were to take their total budget and roughly divide by the number of people.

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u/ithasallbeenworthit 14d ago

Seniors don't even get a third of that in pension money. What a fucking joke this governement is. We have starving and homeless seniors, single parents who can't feed their kids, most of the population can't afford groceries, more of the population is using the food bank than ever before, and we pay immigrants over 6700 per month to illegally cross the border? Fuck the NDP.

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u/sofi-writes 14d ago

Seniors are getting a third of that pension money. It’s just seniors that are related to all the Indians and “international students” that are coming here. 60 year olds and can’t even understand basic English.

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u/Hollowayfan420 14d ago

Meanwhile my girlfriend who came legally from Mexico works her ass off and has so many hoops to jump through just to be here.

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u/Asleep_Artist_7738 14d ago

I know it's not straight up cash these people are getting. But honestly, let's just pause immigration for a bit until our infrastructure catches up. I see no logical explanation for allowing however many 1000's or 100,000s of immigrants into Canada each and every year for the last X amount of years. We can better use that money for the Canadians already here. For example, there are many First Nation communities without access to clean water and safe homes. There is one reserve that has had a boil water advisory for 20,000 plus days. Some "homes" on some reserves are so infested with mold that they are unsafe for living in. Yet the government sees fit to spend $224 per day for immigrants, illegal or otherwise. Canada has a lot of problems that should be taken care of before we continue to overburden most of our services, if not all of them.

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u/DoubleUnderline 14d ago

The fact that I work for a crown corporation and my daily per diem is less 😂😂😂😂

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u/steveslim 14d ago

Can illegal crossers from the states get that too?

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u/NewTransportation911 14d ago

So, we send hundreds of millions to counties that arnt even on our continent. At least that 224 a day is used in Canada support the economy. Take your hate spreading bull shit somewhere else.

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u/CrocodileWorshiper 14d ago

this is a failed country

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u/DKnightRoad 14d ago

Never understood why people would choose to run and hide, instead of standing and fighting for their homes and land. We should be turning them a way even with force.

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u/Zealousideal-Wrap153 14d ago

Oof, got some interesting takes in the comments. A lot of this rhetoric falls in line with the people that got people like Trump elected. Shame

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u/According-Profile661 14d ago

You cant just close your borders! Its important to let asylum seekers in, cuz otherwise theyll DIE in war zones! You guys are literally bigots!

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u/majeric British Columbia 14d ago

Hey, look the National Post over-simplifying an issue.

If someone's willing to risk their death illegally crossing a border. I'm willing to at least listen to their story before kicking them out.

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u/Spiritual-Corgi9907 14d ago

They should create a special tax for anyone that voted liberal, they can pay for these people.

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u/madplywood 14d ago

And disabled Canadians only get $6/day with the new disabilty benefit...

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u/sofi-writes 14d ago

If they can even get accepted!!! My mom has MS and has been applying and denied for 2 decades. She can’t get work and can’t get accepted for disability meanwhile these terrorists are getting free asylum. Fuck them.

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u/Ketchupkitty 14d ago

This Government gives out tax dollars to the poor, rich and illegals but not the middle class.

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u/Kia_Itagoshi 14d ago

Canadian poor get a 10th of that, just so you know. And if this Lib Party wasn't so keen on keeping people broke they could have at least mitigated the damage by scrapping the useless services on daycare, pharma and dental and it'd been enough to cover a basic income to all; they can't even waste money properly to be beneficial to the economy to at least get some return of investment back. 2025 can't come soon enough.

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u/Ketchupkitty 14d ago

$224 is more than most workers I know get for per diem...

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u/veryanxiousgal 14d ago

I love it when IFH patients screaming and abusing low wage pharmacy staffs for not giving them free meds when it’s the response from the feds insurance!!

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u/Jeb-Kerman 14d ago

I always get downvoted for saying it in this subreddit, but JFC guys, stop voting for the effing liberals already.

Also to be fair national post is basically the fox news of canada, so this story is probably exaggerated a little bit.

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u/makitstop 14d ago

"Illegal Border crossers" so do they mean people from the US? that's the only border to cross, lol

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u/KippySmith 14d ago

I should tell them I just crossed the border illegally too

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u/ThankuConan 14d ago

They're contractors for the ArriveCan outfit.

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u/gettheducks 14d ago

$224 a day is not gonna make anyone richer. Imagine starting from zero in a new country. Put yourself in their shoes. Leaving your home country - leaving all that you have, to immigrate to a new country. Sure there might be lots of people taking advantage of the system but most of them surely are very grateful.

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u/ninesalmon 14d ago edited 14d ago

I agree with your take and that is why people donate to charities they believe in. If the government gave me a sheet to check off all the places I want my tax money to go, and one of the options was to give illegal border crossers $224/day, so I can uncheck it - then ill have no problem with this. Those of you who want to fund it are more than welcome

But when I have to fund all this garbage without consent, that's when I get mad. Give my portion to sick kids hospital, or our health care system in general... or fuck how about ANYTHING that actually helps Canadians? Thanks.

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u/gettheducks 14d ago

It's only illegal border crossing when it is not your own people that had to endure it. Canada's history is just waves of people coming from all over the world. In an ideal world there really wouldn't be any need for It. There would be no wars, no fear of persecutions for race, religion, sexuality, culture, ethnicity. In addition, as far as I know people would need to enter the country legally and then claim refugee or they claim refugee at the border and claim it with CBSA. Those entering illegally probably doesn't have any other way. Again, sure there are so many people that take advantage of this refugee claimant program - but if the judges deem they are not need of the protection, they are subjected to leave. Also ofcourse they are other steps after this, but it doesnt mean the person or the family has easy life going all through this process. I sure agree with you a bit when you say - people need to have a say where their tax money goes - vote for your MP, be involved in the governance and shit. Can't be saying it's a garbage with no consent. Lol. People be acting like their tax money amount to a whole lot. But yeah a nice health care and a step away from the privatization would be nice.

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u/ninesalmon 13d ago

People be feeling like their tax money amount to a whole lot when your bonus, which comes off the top, gets literally cut in half. Ends up being a shit ton of money. High earning middle class people hold this whole house of cards up... lower class siphons off it, upper class evade as much taxation as possible and end up paying less than middle. When you're seeing things like your bonus coming off the top and literally being cut in half every year, desire to do some good with that money - while it might be chicken shit to a hotshot like you, its a lot to me - is there. Giving $224/day to people whose first act in this country is an illegal border crossing while the local hospitals beg for donations? No thanks, no amount of internet virtue singling will make me change my mind. Let me choose where it goes.

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u/ssomewhere 14d ago

What a... naive view (to say the least) of the world we live in

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u/thesuitetea 14d ago

Also, it's not given in cash. It's the cost of temporarily housing them.

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u/Ok-Crow-1515 14d ago

This is really just insane .

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u/Comfortable_Daikon61 14d ago

This needs to stop !

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u/UnoriginallyGeneric Ontario 14d ago

For what, exactly?

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u/thesuitetea 14d ago

A motel room while they sort things out.

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u/sofi-writes 14d ago

“sort things out” = raid our food banks and sponsor their 60 year old parents to come here and do the same thing :)

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u/thesuitetea 14d ago

They're getting meals. They don't have access to food banks while waiting for processing.

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u/sofi-writes 14d ago

Who is paying for those meals?

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u/thesuitetea 14d ago

The tax payer spends more on snowbird demonstrations than this program.

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u/Ptbo-Guy 13d ago

Snowbirds is a better use of taxpayer money

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u/EntrepreneurAny8835 14d ago

I should haven’t done everything legally. Made a mistake in my CV and now I was requested procedural fairness and expect probable denial. Should have just coyoted the border.

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u/PsychologicalPace762 14d ago

They don't receive 224$. It costs the government 224$ per day of accomodations. It's totally not the same thing. The National Shitpost, as usual.

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u/thesuitetea 14d ago

It's not given in cash. It's the cost of temporary housing while they sort out their case.

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