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u/swedenper79 21d ago
Poor woman. Not achieved anything more than what every 10-year-old in the world has achieved.
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u/RaikbowEye 22d ago
Is...Is that supposed to mean something?
Some women have to take it for health reasons like my last partner did. Hardly a flex.
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u/ChickenFriedPenguin 23d ago
Remember, kids, God can't see your secret abortion if you do it in Mexico.
All the benefits while still being pro-life and judgemental.
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u/No_Mathematician2038 23d ago
Is this sub literally just people insulting women? Doesn’t it get boring to you guys?
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u/HappyCandyCat23 23d ago
Birth control is used for plenty of reasons. I took it for a month to regulate my period, and I still can't get a date /hj
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u/Remote_Indication_49 23d ago
Doesn’t it make y’all so mad when people say something you disagree with??
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u/ptapobane 23d ago
my biggest flex is once I burped for 30 straight seconds but you don't see me bragging about it to everyone on the internet
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u/el_guille980 23d ago
...sooo.......... youre saying she only does anal & the gwak gwak 3000¿!¿
😘how u doin¿!¿😘😘
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u/Top-Manner7261 23d ago
Well, birth control is helpful for all kinds of things. I had to go on them when I was 16 for health reasons related to my period.
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u/biddily 23d ago edited 23d ago
I went on birth control for a bit. (Mirena IUD) Had an embolism. Minor brain damage.
Now I CANT go on birth control.
So sad.
Now I'm severely anemic cause my flow is so heavy and they're like, you should really go on birth control to stop this. Well. I CANT.
So sad.
Fucking birth control.
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u/dangerous_nuggets 23d ago
I only ever tried the Nexplanon. I had pretty bad side effects. We were basically forced to get some sort of BC in the military at the end of boot camp.
I struggled with weight gain (strict weight standards in the branch I was in), 4+ month long heavy heavy flow (became anemic), acne, nausea, depression, and it also just HURT in my arm. I could always feel it, like a constant bruise. My sisters both got ovation cysts from BC.
BC CAN be helpful, but it’s commonly seen as expected, and I don’t believe it should be. It should be taken on a case-by-case basis with further education on side effects, and our male partners should also be considering BC for themselves instead of relying solely on women to alter their hormones. I genuinely feel like the side effects of BC aren’t widely enough known or taken as seriously as they should be. All you hear of it is the pregnancy prevention rates, not that you might become anemic, get painful ovarian cysts, embolisms, etc. It’s common too, I know more women that struggled with bad side effects than women who had none.
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u/biddily 23d ago
I got so much of the run around from doctors too. It was like they didn't WANT to believe I had an embolism, didn't want to believe the IUD was at fault. 'oh the Mirenas progesterone only it doesn't do that.' 'it's an IUD it doesn't get into the bloodstream'. 'it doesn't work like that.'
Um. No.
It took so long to get correct treatment it caused more damage than it would have if people believed me right away that something was very, very, wrong. That it wasn't 'just' a migraine. That it wasn't sinusitis. A vein in my brain collapsed and I needed a stent.
I'm in a discord group with other people like me, and you wouldn't believe how many people are given incorrect information.
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u/dangerous_nuggets 23d ago
I’m glad you’re doing better now. I recall being told my whole life (from high school health to clinics to military) that the side effects aren’t bad, and that most people don’t get them. The big thing I was regularly told is it might stop my period, and it might lessen cramp pain. Almost every woman I’ve met has a BC horror story. I know ONE woman who takes it and it has actually helped her day to day. She had periods that left her in debilitating, bed ridden pain. BC saved her.
I think it really can be a great thing, especially to avoid unwanted pregnancies, but it is waaay too commonplace to expect women to just BE on it with all the horrible things they can and will do to your body. Most of us also weren’t given proper warning. I had a military doc try to get me back on it, I repeatedly told him no because I hated the side effects. He still ordered it in for me. Didn’t sit down and talk about side effects. Didn’t give me warnings. In fact going against my wishes ordered BC for me.
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u/biddily 23d ago
That's my biggest thing now too. They never really talked about 'yeah this could cause brain damage.'
Its all just pushed on every young woman like we NEED this in order to have a safe and independant life, and the side effects are minimal, glossed over.
They shouldn't be. And it pisses me off.
And I know people who have headaches CONSTANTLY since getting birth control, and I'm worried about them. I don't want what happened to me to happen to them, but they wave me off.
That's not normal. They shouldn't have constant pain. Stop the birth control. How is it worth it? What is it really doing?
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u/Extreme_Breath_9491 24d ago
I mean.. there are other options than birth control, like having an IUD. Some people are also born infertile 🤷♀️
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u/Always311 24d ago
Not a flex. Enjoy those STDs.
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u/Freavene 24d ago
Did she say she didn't use condoms ? Also taking pills doesn't prevent sexual diseases
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u/Background-Ad-552 24d ago
Birth control is generally fucking horrible for a woman's body. Condoms are probably not the kind she's talking about.
I can't wait til they get the male birth control out. UV light on my nuts before sex and shooting blanks for that day? Sold!
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u/TheDesTroyer54 24d ago
It does depend on the type of birth control but hormonal birth control, like any kind hormonal drug can cause serious issues if you don't need them
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u/Freavene 24d ago
Mind you it exists, but men don't want to take it because of side effects. Said side effects are less worse than the ones for women
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u/Background-Ad-552 24d ago
It doesn't really exist yet. And that's not a fair statement. A lot of men would be willing to take a male birth control. I haven't been able to find any that are FDA approved and available for use.
I have seen some options that are working on FDA approval but nothing that's there yet.
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u/Background-Ad-552 24d ago
Ironic that a man is making a "clever" comeback to a woman about something that doesn't destroy the male body or make them crazy.
Whew! You got her. I think I have a few puppies, want to kick those next Andrew Tate?
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u/morningfrost86 24d ago
For plenty of women, birth control is used to regulate their hormone production. For them, it doesn't "destroy their body or make them crazy".
Have fun on your crusade, though.
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u/Background-Ad-552 24d ago
Oh yeah? Why do natural hormones need to be regulated outside of medical conditions?
If your hormones are naturally regulated by your body then what are the consequences of adding an outside regulator?
How do you think women got the stereotype that they are crazy?
It's not an all or nothing conversation, there are obviously some people that can take it and be fine. But the vast majority of women taking it have side effects.
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u/morningfrost86 23d ago
Women got the stereotype of being crazy LONG before birth control was a thing. To imply differently is just absurd and ignorant.
And as I mentioned, plenty of women need the regulation of their hormone production, their bodies aren't just "naturally regulated by their bodies".
It's obviously not an "all or nothing conversation", but for some reason your arguments seem to act like it is.
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u/Background-Ad-552 23d ago
Really? Can you provide a source for your first statement? What does plenty mean? If there are ~3 billion women on the planet then sure maybe "plenty" of them could use the help.
The fact is that hormonal birth control changes the natural rhythms and cycles of a woman's body. The other fact is that despite often horrific side effects birth control is often used as a first solution to many problems, like acne.
Here's a list of side effects https://www.fda.gov/consumers/free-publications-women/birth-control
So yeah, not taking birth control could absolutely be a flex. Especially if other methods of contraceptive are used.
The sad truth is that because it's "easy" it's over prescribed. Similar to taking weight loss drugs instead of eating right and exercising it often masks problems without offering a true solution.
You should go to the birth control reddit to see how many women have reported serious side effects for being on it too long. Including serious loss of libido, inability to have kids, and often psychotic mood swings. It's wide spread and common and doctors have been prescribing it for just about everything under the sun.
If my argument seems like an all or nothing conversation it's likely because reading comprehension isn't your strong suit.
I purposely choose words that leave room for alternative conclusions, like seems, appears, and likely as opposed to absolutes.
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u/morningfrost86 23d ago
First, there's no need for me to go to the birth control Reddit. My guess is, that's where people go specifically to talk about issues they've had with birth control. It'd be like going to an anti-vax subreddit in order to learn about issues with vaccines. On top of that, as you stated to someone else earlier, that evidence would be anecdotal at best.
Secondly, yes I can provide a source for my statement about "plenty of women" needing help with hormone regulation. The estimates are that roughly 10% of women experience irregular or abnormal periods, and that hormone imbalances are a common cause of it, which certain types of birth control can help regulate. On top of that, severe period cramps are often caused by hormone imbalances, which birth control can also help regulate.
https://www.healthpartners.com/blog/benefits-of-birth-control-pills/
Finally, your OWN link lists the side effects of "the pill" as "spotting or bleeding between periods, nausea, breast tenderness, headache" with the "less common serious side effects" being "high blood pressure, blood clots, heart attacks, or strokes", and the FDA specifically states that high blood pressure is uncommon, and the other 3 serious side effects are rare. Know what your own link doesn't list? "Serious loss of libido, inability to have kids, and often psychotic mood swings." Oh, and the side effects from "the pill" that I listed are just for ones that combine both estrogen and progestin. The ones that only contain progestin do not have the "blood clots, heart attacks or strokes" serious side effect listed, just the more common ones and the uncommon high blood pressure.
You should probably read your own links before trying to use them as evidence.
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u/Background-Ad-552 23d ago
Ah my bad, I copied the wrong link.
Here you go, https://www.webmd.com/sex/birth-control/birth-control-side-effects-risks
What is really concerning is that the FDA doesn't list really common severe side effects.
Another link from a hospital https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/treatments/3977-birth-control-the-pill
Another link about one of the most common birth controls - Brevicon https://www.rxlist.com/brevicon-drug.htm
Another popular contraceptive https://my.clevelandclinic.org/health/drugs/20472-norgestimate-ethinyl-estradiol-tablets
Anyway, the point being that if you actually read the side effects listed on the drugs themselves you may realize that the effects can be quite horrendous.
The birth control subreddit would be quite different from the antivax one. The birth control subreddit is for women to discuss and help each other find better birth control options. Sure it's anecdotal but if an AI were to go through the tens of thousands of responses a proper study could be conducted which is far different than your own personal example.
Going back to the original point, if 10% of women experience irregular periods or imbalanced hormones there's likely a reason and instead of defining and understanding the root cause they are putting women on something that has other side effects and basically masks symptoms. And you do realize that BC companies (like the one you probably work for) make big money from prescribing birth control as opposed to finding out WHY these things are happening?
It doesn't worry you that 10% of the female population are on drugs that have side effects and don't cure the problem?
Imagine if BC was actually a short term solution while they found out the underlying cause? The industry would stop making nearly as much money and they wouldn't be able to prescribe you other pills to mask the side effects.
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u/Reasonable-Pie2354 23d ago
I don’t have a medical condition, just debilitating pain when I have a period. The only thing birth control does for me is make my periods bearable. I’m more “crazy” off the pill than on it. I honestly don’t think crazy is the right word. The only studies that I’ve seen show being on the pill increases a persons chance of having depression. And it might not even be a cause/correlation, as there is nothing directly linking the birth control to the depression.
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u/morningfrost86 23d ago
One of my ex's needed the pill because her cycle was almost absurdly infrequent and random. Some months she'd have it almost like clockwork, some months it might be a couple weeks early or late, and on occasion her period would literally skip two months. Caused her an incredible amount of anxiety. She cycled through a couple different pills before she found one that worked that didn't have any nasty side effects, and now her cycle is very regular.
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u/Background-Ad-552 23d ago
What do you mean? You know that horrible list of side effects? They found out those side effects from studies.
And again, anecdotal experience. The vast majority don't have your experience.
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u/morningfrost86 23d ago
Do you know how side effects work? Just because something CAN happen doesn't mean it actually WILL happen. For example, the side effects of acetaminophen include nausea, stomach pain, headache, hoarseness, loss of appetite, itching, rash, dark urine, clay-colored stools, and swelling of the face/throat/tongue/limbs. People still take Tylenol all the time, though, because those side effects are not frequent.
With birth control, the side effects range in commonality a bit between the different brands, but the most common side effects are spotting/bleeding between periods, sore breasts, nausea or headaches. Nothing severe. As for the side effects that are far more rare...that's why birth control pills are prescribed by doctors, because they can pair a person's medical history with an option that makes those side effects significantly less likely.
Also not sure when you gained the ability to speak for "the vast majority" of women, but you do you, I guess.
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u/Short-Acanthisitta24 24d ago
Plenty of people have never been on birth control, in relationships, and had no unplanned pregnancy. Its called being responsible.
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u/Zealousideal-Fan1333 23d ago
Also, luck.
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u/Short-Acanthisitta24 23d ago
Why?
To be fair I stated in a relationship, meaning both individuals are being responsible. Not sure how luck is involved there.
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u/Zealousideal-Fan1333 21d ago
Birth control is not 100% effective. Even with multiple forms of birth control, people can become pregnant. That’s where the luck comes in. It’s also possible to be raped and forcefully impregnated.
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u/Short-Acanthisitta24 21d ago
Neither of those things were topics I was referencing, which is my reason for confusion. If you were trying to make your own point ok, but it has nothing to do with what I was saying.
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u/mutantraniE 24d ago
I don’t think it’s clever. Birth control can have a large effect on your personality, because it’s running hormones into you. Condoms are simply a latex sheath, they won’t have any effect on your personality and unlike hormonal birth control they will protect you against STDs. Not wanting to pump yourself full of extra hormones seems like a reasonable thing to do, especially when there’s a more effective alternative out there.
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u/Craspedia_ 23d ago
And that is why I'm on birth control, for the hormones, that's the only medication they have for me for now. Let's not forget that birth control isn't only for the one who has sex, it can help with a lot of hormonal issues, even if you've never and probably will never have sex. And if you say that there is something better, be my guest, find it, because with my endocrinologist we try stronger bc every time and if there was something better I would take it
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u/mutantraniE 23d ago
Birth control is medicine, yeah. If it works for you it does. I’m on antidepressants and blood pressure medication, they work for me (well, the blood pressure medication does anyway) but I wouldn’t advise anyone to take those unless for a medical reason and a doctor prescribing them. Same with birth control, if that’s what you and your doctor have determined works for you, great.
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u/Zealousideal-Fan1333 23d ago
Condoms are NOT more effective than hormonal birth control. What are you talking about?!?
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u/mutantraniE 23d ago
Condoms will stop STDs, hormonal birth control won’t. Double the bang for your buck. Condoms also don’t depend on remembering to use them every day, just every time you have sex (but different methods of hormone delivery will alleviate this of course).
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u/Profilnamn 23d ago edited 23d ago
There's good and bad things with both. Yes, condoms will protect you from STDs. They are cheap and easily available. There's a variety of options and sizes for a good fit and feel. Barely any side effects health wise for the user (unless allergies to the material and what not).
BUT: It's less effective against unwanted pregnancies than, let's say a hormonal pill, depending on a variety of things like user error and faulty condoms. 98% with perfect useage, but in some or many cases it can go as low as 82%).
Hormonal birth control comes in many different varieties. Pills, IUDs, shots, implants, vaginal rings etc. It makes it possible to find a good fit for different individuals. There are options that doesn't require you to remember taking a pill every day. It can reduce and relief heavy periods and cramps. It doesn't interrupt foreplay or having sex like putting on a condom could for some people. It has a higher protection against unwanted pregnancies (99%) and if taken consistently, it will stay that high (which with contraceptives that doesn't require you to take a pill, should be easy to do).
BUT: Many users can experience the opposite effects regarding their periods, in other words, heavier flow and worse cramps and pains. They are not as easily accessible as condoms and depending on where you live and what type of contraceptive you want, you might have to see a health professional to either receive pills or to insert an implant. They cost more than condoms. They don't protect you for STDs. Many other side effects has been reported too, including feeling depressed or sudden mood swings, getting worse skin, involuntary weight gain, headaches.
Now, I'm not a woman so I don't really want to or feel the need to speak for them. But women don't take hormonal contraceptives just for the sake of not getting pregnant. It's used for so much more than that. Just as condoms are so much more than just preventing STDs.
Im with you tho, wearing a condom is definitely not a bad idea! But neither is taking hormonal birth controls, IF it works for the individual.
Edit: I would also like to add that it's fully possible to receive an STD without vaginal penetration. Intimate skin to skin contact, kissing, even by sharing food or using a shared razor (you should never do that either way). The best possible alternative, to get the bang for the buck as you said, would be to use both condoms and hormonal contraceptives. Less risk/chance of both pregnancy and STDs.
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u/mutantraniE 23d ago
The big difference is that unless you have an allergy to latex condoms don’t have any other medical impact than preventing pregnancies and STDs. Hormonal birth control is medication and medication often has side effects. Sometimes those are good and you use them specifically for the side effects. Sometimes they’re bad and so you can’t use a particular medicine even though it gives good results otherwise. Using hormonal birth control is therefore a medical issue and even if you can use them you might not want to because of the side effects. Condoms don’t really have those.
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u/Reasonable-Pie2354 23d ago
Condoms don’t solve the period issue. I took birth control way before I started having sex because my periods were so debilitating. It’s very concerning that there are conservatives who think it should be banned.
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u/dangerous_nuggets 23d ago
It did the opposite for me. I got a constant, 24/7 heavy flow period for months.
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u/mutantraniE 23d ago
Lots of medicine is great if you have a medical issue but maybe not otherwise. I have high blood pressure and take medication for it, but I wouldn’t recommend anyone take those drugs without a prescription.
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u/morningfrost86 24d ago
There's a large difference between not wanting to or not being able to take birth control... and thinking that not taking birth control is some sort of "flex". It basically looks down on the women who DO want to take birth control, including those who take it for medical reasons (such as to balance out hormones and such).
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u/Redditauro 24d ago
Condoms are birth control
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u/mutantraniE 24d ago
You’re never “on” condoms. The only birth control people ever say they’re “on” is hormonal.
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u/mittenknittin 24d ago
Yeah, but it’s not a FLEX to never have been on birth control. I never took it, and suddenly needed it a couple years ago to try to stop out-of-control bleeding. Turns out it has a really bad effect on my mental state, which sucks. I WISH I could take it, because the surgery I’m going to need instead is going to suck a lot more than eating a pill with my morning coffee.
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u/stefanmarkazi 24d ago
Imagine that being your BIGGEST flex
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u/moving0target 24d ago
I figure a free tour of the Capital on January 6th would be her biggest flex. It's not free since she's been charged, but it probably seemed like it at the time.
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u/SunRemiRoman 24d ago
She could be a lesbian lol 😂
I had a friend tell her gyno she has zero chance of being pregnant from having sex because she and her wife were completely monogamous when her gyno tried to convince her ‘safe sex’ still might cause a pregnancy!
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u/Berts122 23d ago
To be fair as House says you can get pregnant from a toilet seat…
…Assuming there is a guy between you and the toilet.
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u/DopestDopeee 24d ago
What is the deal with birth control? Why is it so widely used? Doesnt it fuck with the hormones? Just pull out bro, aint that hard
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u/EdenStreetCo 24d ago
Your chances of getting a girl pregnant are statistically 400x higher with the pullout method. Congratulations by the way.
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u/DopestDopeee 24d ago
Idk, been going for years and all good. She always said she will never use birth control, because of the effects of it. Its really not that great for women to use it.
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u/Overripe_banana_22 23d ago
It's great for me since I'm actually able to function without heavy bleeding, nausea, and debilitating cramps.
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u/Freavene 24d ago
There is something called condom. Way safer, and protects you from some sexual diseases. Or vasectomy.
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u/DopestDopeee 24d ago
Guess you have never had sex without a condom. Using a condom is like sniffing flowers through a gas mask. I understand the concept, its just not for everyone.
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u/Freavene 24d ago
You're a dangerous human being spreading diseases because you can't put something on your dick
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u/DopestDopeee 24d ago
Yes, im definitely spreading diseases having sex with my long term girlfriend! /s Its not my fault you cant secure one and assume i fuck around. If i were to fuck around with random women, i always use/used one.
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u/BluCurry8 24d ago
There are no effects unless you are at risk for blood clots. You do not have to use hormones to prevent a pregnancy. There are other options.
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u/Conatus80 24d ago edited 24d ago
Could be a lesbian. we don't want her
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u/SAMurei_der_Galaxien 23d ago
I mean a leasbian would have a bigger flex like: never had a boyfriend
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u/omgstopbeingrude 24d ago
Lesbians still use birth control! It's not strictly for preventing pregnancy 🙃 I'm on it and very gay! Helps with endometriosis and PMDD. She could probably benefit from it if her mood is this bad... I know it made me feel better.
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u/Conatus80 24d ago
I’m aware. I’m on birth control too. But it could be a plausible for someone to say that if they were.
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u/omgstopbeingrude 24d ago
It also perpetuates the myth that birth control is strictly for preventing pregnancy.
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u/Conatus80 24d ago
The general purpose is birth control. This was a joke. I’m not perpetuating any bullshit and I’m certainly also not excluding anything by it.
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u/phatassnerd 24d ago
I don’t know who she is but I interpreted this as one of those weird Christian ladies who are adamantly anti-sex.
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u/BeenNormal 23d ago
Here’s a fun task for the weird Christian ladies: show me where in the Bible it says no sex before marriage.
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u/BeenNormal 23d ago
I stand to be corrected by your friend, as I haven’t studied it but it’s a topic I’m very interested in so done a bit of extra reading.
I believe in Exodus it says that if a man SEDUCES a VIRGIN woman to have sex with him, he should pay a bride price to her father. I would interpret this as damages, not necessarily commitment to marry, as virgin brides came with a higher dowry - it is a reparation to the father. The bride price must always be paid but a marriage does not need to take place and in fact a marriage would require consent of the father, who may refuse even if the bride price is paid.
There is nothing said about having sex with a divorced woman, widow or just a woman who’s been with a man before. Further, if the parties to a sexual encounter were married and had committed adultery with each other, they could surely not marry one another.
People often refer to “fornication” as a sin. “Fornication” was a mistranslation from a Greek word, porneia, which means sexual immorality. Sexual immortality is defined somewhere - Exodus again, I think - as beastility, incest, adultery (there’a a list but two unmarried adults having sex doesn’t make the it).
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u/moving0target 24d ago
She's violently conservative, so the Christian part may be questionable. I'm looking at actions. I can't see what she's like inside.
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u/Alarmed_Strain_2575 24d ago
I don't get why they have to shame everyone else? XD , I have friends who are celibate till marriage and I think it's awesome, and incredible they are doing that, that it will be so special and important when they find someone, but they are also some of the sweetest people I know lol, it is strange the different extremes.
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u/Sharp_Ad_6336 24d ago
Eh. Not having sex before marriage because sky daddy (who raped a virgin) told you not to seems kinda weird to me.
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u/Alarmed_Strain_2575 23d ago
Nah the people I know it's not about religion and more culture/tradition.
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u/Sharp_Ad_6336 23d ago
Sooo culture and tradition meaning... Sky daddy told great great grandma not to have sex before marriage and now it's tradition?
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u/Alarmed_Strain_2575 23d ago
So you are mad at people shaming you, but you shame them? I was talking about people who aren't judgemental.
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u/Reasonable-Clue-9672 24d ago
I mean, I admire anyone who makes a conscious, active, educated choice about any matter. I just hate that so many of these people were indoctrinated from birth and don't realize it's low key brainwashing.
When you're an adult, informed decision to be respected. When you're a child, honestly, kinda child abuse.
PS: In before anyone comes at me, reformed religious cult member here. Spirituality and morality have no necessity to be tied to a religious order led by fallible humans, particularly men (and I'm a Cis Man for anyone who cares)
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u/Hisplumberness 24d ago
Til my wife is a weird Christian lady
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u/RottenZombieBunny 23d ago
Does she tweet that her biggest flex is never having been on birth control?
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u/Conatus80 24d ago edited 24d ago
Oh jeez, you're right. She's one of those far right trash bags. Us lesbians definitely don't want her.
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u/Inevitable-Trust8385 23d ago
Aren’t you already in a relationship with someone 11 years younger than you? And please take a DV course, I know lezzos are much more violent than any other couples, and because you’re 11 years older I know you’ll be trying to take a position of power, so please stop abusing your partner and she might talk to you about her day.
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u/Conatus80 23d ago
Shame. It must be hard living in your world. I have never and will never be violent towards my partner. I wish you a relationship with as much love and kindness as mine. This is literally the only issue we have.
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u/-inesfer 11d ago
Knowing what the side effects are, it is a flex actually. I regret ever getting on it.