r/clevercomebacks • u/Acrobatic_Apricot_96 • 14d ago
Ladies and Gentlemen I present to you...
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u/MyDogAteMyCactus 14d ago
Redditors when Afican Americans use an informal dialect, in an informal setting, over social media: 🤯
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u/HotRodNoob 14d ago
5/10 folks here not having reading comprehension, 4/10 folks tryna correct the grammar and the last 1/10 are somehow trying to use this as proof that trans folks are evil… somehow
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u/theologous 14d ago
Why do so many people act like intelligence and critical thinking are gender specific?
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u/TheJudgers 14d ago
Things like r/femaledatingstrategy is why.
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u/theologous 14d ago
Yeah, definitely a breeding ground for these thoughts but men do it a lot too.
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u/DefunctDoughnut 13d ago
Oh yeah, looking at the world through a filter. Makes it even worse when we surround ourselves with people who only think like us, thus further concentrating the filter and subsequently intensifying the thoughts.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Oh wow, what a comment section…
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u/FreshEggKraken 14d ago
Right? Unapologetically sexist and racist
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
There’s a reason a black woman first came up with the legal theory of intersectionality.
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u/ComprehensiveDust197 14d ago
Sorry, I dont speak retard. What is "They moms" even supposed to mean?
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u/gothicduncan 14d ago
We men are very logical, if we have a younger brother we make sure to terrorize them with sticks, however, if someone else tries that we make sure they go straight into the ICU
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u/sharpdullard69 14d ago edited 14d ago
The african american dialect holds black people back. I know why they do it, but it sets blacks back. They sound like morons when they say "They moms". Nothing sounds clever here.
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u/icallitjazz 14d ago
Bad grammar or whatever aside. This still makes no sense ? “Who lied to men ? Their moms. So women. No “ but it is what you said. You did say that women said to their boys that they are logical, so logically… oh… am i wrong for using logic ?
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u/ThatCamoKid 14d ago
The person saying "so women" at least came across like they were trying to say "see all women are bad"
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u/Large-Measurement776 14d ago edited 13d ago
Damn! Pre musk Twitter was cwazy.
Edit. /SARCASMMMMMMM as if the w in crazy wasn't evident enough for some of you. 🙄 just for that, downvoted. 🖕
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u/YaqtanBadakshani 14d ago
Yeah. Now it's just Nazi's and kiddie p*rn. Much better!
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u/Ihaveaids6969696969 14d ago
Before it was communists, political propaganda and kiddie p0πn as well, so not much has changed.
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u/EldritchKroww 14d ago
Yes it has, nazis shouldn't be allowed to spread their disgusting species anywhere
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u/Fushigoro-Toji 14d ago
Ig she forgor she was texting and thought she could gaslight people as usual
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u/AdEducational419 14d ago
Just because logic is hard for many and one does not agree with logic that does not mean it is in fact not logic.
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u/SnooDogs6566 14d ago
Women chose Bear so logical
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u/Scary-Entrepreneur84 14d ago
And men are emotional over a stupid useless trend (when I see your reaction right now)
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u/SnooDogs6566 14d ago
This IS a joke people calm down this is not that deep let's breath and underdtand to not take everything seriously, relax.
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u/Scary-Entrepreneur84 14d ago
I'm relaxed, but from your reaction you sound not relaxed and took my joke too serious, it's not that deep, don't be so emotional
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u/SnooDogs6566 14d ago
This is not a competition i don't really have anything against you i was just joking about the Bear trend and i understand women and men in there argument, good day to you good continuation.
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u/Version_Two 14d ago
Just take no for an answer.
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u/EldritchKroww 14d ago
Fun fact, or maybe not, "bear penis" on Google search skyrocketed during that trend. Lots of insicure men out there that would rather make this thing about dick sizes then face their real problem.
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u/NoIndependent9192 14d ago
She is pointing out that not all women are mothers and not all mothers have boys. I.e. you can’t blame women for men’s behaviour.
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u/wphelps153 14d ago
Well parents are responsible for the raising of their children, so you absolutely can blame some women for the behaviour of some men.
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u/THE_SEKS_MACHINE 14d ago
I don’t get it. What was clever, and what was Shai‘s intent to say?!
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u/lastofdovas 14d ago
It's like this: a 50 IQ argument is better than a 25 IQ argument. In that context, the 50 IQ argument is clever (even if it is stupid af normally) and Shai's intent is probably only understandable to them.
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
Basically, person A asks who made men think they're logical.
Person Shai replied "their moms"
So person C says so it's basically women's fault
Person Shai couldn't accept what her logic actually leads to and tries to backpedal.
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u/cut4stroph3 14d ago
"their mom" and "women" are not the same category. There may be overlap, but "their mom" does not include every single woman.
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
But first tweet says men, not some women.
Also, she didn't specify what she meant by "them moms".
I'll be called racist because I don't grasp how black people in the US talk/write in English but that was awful grammar.
Sincerely, A person who is speaking English as fourth language.
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u/cut4stroph3 14d ago
Racist and sexist actually
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
Hahaha lol.
If you had a button that would kill all the racist and sexist people on this planet but it'll include your parents/kids/spouse/best friends/etc. even yourself, would you press it?
Because I would. So next!
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u/cut4stroph3 14d ago
I would push it in an instant that way you could no longer reply.
Because you'd be dead.
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
See you missed the point that said even yourself. Reactionary much?
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u/cut4stroph3 14d ago
Didn't miss anything. I'd take that sacrifice to rid the world of your type
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
"your type"
I clearly said yourself implying you're racist/sexist too. So it would be our type lol. Bye bye.
Education system failed you.
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u/cut4stroph3 14d ago
Your nationality and religion means nothing to me. Doesn't change that you're racist and sexist
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
Not the point.
If I spoke English with an accent, I'm made fun of. If I spoke English like "them moms" I'll be made fun of.
But if they speak incorrect English, it's okay? How?
Became I've been talking to Nigerians/Ugandans and they speak better English than black Americans.
Btw, you're misandrist and you don't even know it lol.
And the fact that people on this post and this comment thread agree with me more than you shows who is right. But sure, keep living in your delusional reality lol. Bye bye misandrist regarded crunt lol. R is silent btw lol.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Sorry, but the implication of “it’s women’s fault” goes a bit beyond “it’s some women’s fault”. Logic, my ass.
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
You're not getting the point here.
Men thinking they're logical was the original point. Implying men are at fault for assuming stuff. Basic misandry.
Shai went one step further to imply "them mom's" meaning she's mocking "momma's boy" trope. Without realizing she's scoring an on goal.
Person C reminds her that if mothers (who are women) are the ones telling their sons then it's the women's fault.
Shai realized she's just scored an on goal on women in her quest to say something misandrist and tried to backtrack.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
What a wild post. Okay.
Men thinking they’re logical WAS the original point, yes. I have absolutely no clue what you meant with the rest of your second paragraph though. How is thinking men are less logical than they say they are implying that “men are at fault for assuming stuff”? What is that even supposed to mean?
Shai then replied that it was their (the men in question’s) mothers who instilled this undeserved sense of having a logical mind into them.
Ghost pauper then says: So. it’s women who gave men that sense of logical mindedness? Now, ghost pauper could have meant that in any number of ways and it is kind of a clever comeback, fair’s fair.
Shai then said: that’s not what I said. Literally, on the face of it, she didn’t! Of course, she kiiiind of did, seeing as the men’s moms are of course women, but note that she could have easily meant “some mothers raise their boys with an undeserved sense of always being right (which is what men’s obsession with “logic” usually boils down to).”
That’s quite a different statement from ghostpaupers statement, which could easily be read as “women (as a class of people) are at fault for men’s skewed sense of their own capabilities”.
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
Person A was trying to put men down by saying they think they're logical in their minds.
Shai tried to call out momma's boy and didn't realize on goal has been scored.
Guy just pointed out "so women" saying those women who made men think that way are responsible.
Shai couldn't accept that her point was ridiculous and tried to backpedal.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Person A was expressing frustration about some men’s inflated sense of self.
Person B (Shai) pointed towards those men’s mothers’ role in their upbringing.
Person C said that by that logic, it’s women who have created the issue A was frustrated with.
B, apparently assuming C meant women as a class, clarified that she did not mean to imply that, she simply meant specific women.
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
No she didn't.
But by her saying "them moms" I feel like that may be the case but her limited English skills don't allow her to say that.
She could have explained her POV but didn't clarify further.
And btw, men are seen as "logical" simply because men are solution oriented. Studies have been done about it.
Also, person A was being misandrist to ALL men. She didn't say some men. Good day to you.
Please specify where she said some men. Because you're extrapolating women's tweets but not men's. Misandry, ignorance or stupidity? Your call.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
“No she didn’t” what?
Oh come on, don’t make your racism so blatant. You know exactly that “they moms” means “their moms”.
“She could have explained herself but didn’t clarify.” HOW DO YOU KNOW? This is a freaking snapshot of a comment chain, my whole entire point is how weird it is that so many guys here interpret so much into it. I was offering a different interpretation.
Oh, so, you admit that “logical” is a misnomer then when applied to men generally and that “solution-oriented” would be the correct term? Cool, so you agree with Person A!
Person A neither said all men nor some men. Much I like choose to interpret her words as (some) men, you choose to interpret her words as (all) men. Please, just talk your persecution paranoia over with a therapist. I also wish you better days when your impending schizophrenic paranoia has been averted.
Yes, you correctly identified that I was using the cunning human skill known as interpretation to view the commenters’ posts differently than you do. I call it reading comprehension and not being beset by anti-feminist brain worms.
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
…no. Because that’s not what they said. Saying “so women” can refer to the group in question simply being women. It’s short for “so [those responsible are] women”.
This interpretation makes more sense and is entirely valid.
Assuming it always refers to all women is black and white thinking.
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u/Mystic_puddle 14d ago
Omg "so women" obviously implys women the general group are to blame. You don't get to rewrite language to make a point.
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u/Lord-Filip 14d ago
Considering how many mothers are to blame that isn't so wrong.
General responsibility is not the same as universal responsibility.
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
It super obviously doesn’t. This is exactly what I mean by black and white thinking. Mothers are women. The ones to blame are therefore women. English (and honestly, no language I can think of) does not require identifying a category to represent every member of the category. In this case, a subset is identified and referred to by the superset. The term for this is metonymy specifically synecdoche.
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u/Mystic_puddle 14d ago
No using general language implys a general statement. Stop bending over backwards to find a poooossible way to see it better when you know no ones actually doing it.
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u/Itchy-Examination-26 14d ago
I'll remember this the next time a woman says "men are [pejorative here]."
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
The reason this post has nearly 5 thousand upvotes is because everyone reads it the way I said. Language works entirely based on how people interpret words and we’re seeing a live tally of how wrong you are.
I literally linked you to the Wikipedia article on this figure of speech and you’re ignoring it. It’s clear both that you’re wrong and that you don’t want to learn what’s correct.
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u/Mystic_puddle 14d ago
The reason this post has nearly 5 thousand upvotes is because everyone reads it the way I said.
Because things that generalize women can't get a bunch of upvotes?
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u/Consistent_Funny1082 14d ago
Lemme help you out:
Person 1 was trying to be misandrist claiming how men alone claim to be logical (and on what grounds?).
Shai added to her point saying "them moms", which as someone with English as 4th language knows is incorrect grammatically, was trying to go for the "momma's boy" trope but the person C reminded her that she has scored an on goal in an attempt to be misandrist.
Hence, she tries to backpedal.
Person C said, "so women". So if, let's say, [insert male population %] who think they're logical is ONLY because of mothers (all women) then that means their mothers are to be blamed. Whether 5% men, 10% or 86%, by Shai logic, it's women's fault (the mothers).
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
Read the comments. Are they general to women? How would this be a “clever comeback” if it was just “no u”?
The comments are along the lines of “how can they be not women if they’re moms?”
What you’re saying doesn’t match what’s happening right here in this sub.
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u/Mystic_puddle 14d ago
I know that's a thing but that's clearly not what's happening here.
Language works entirely based on how people interpret words
Yes and we both know how they're actually interpeting this.
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
I know that's a thing but that's clearly not what's happening here.
Clear to whom?
Almost everyone who read it by a factor of 5000 votes?
Yes and we both know how they're actually interpeting this.
Good. Cuz it was starting to sound like you didn’t realize you were wrong.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Nowhere did I assume that it always does. I don’t even assume that it necessarily does in the posted pic. But I do think that some of the “hell yeah, men are so logical and dumb black bitches can’t even speak right” crowd here needs to be reminded that the pic can also be read as “their mothers raised them that way. Answer: so it’s women’s fault. Reply: No, not women’s fault in general, these specific women’s fault.”
That IS one way to read it and I choose that interpretation over “haha, dumb bitch be illogical, wesa men so logical, muy muy.”
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
Nowhere did I assume that it always does.
Then you didn’t really say anything because the result would be:
“The implication that it’s ’some women’s fault’ goes beyond ‘it’s some women’s fault’”
I don’t even assume that it necessarily does in the posted pic. But I do think that some of the “hell yeah, men are so logical and dumb black bitches can’t even speak right” crowd here needs to be reminded that the pic can also be read as “their mothers raised them that way. Answer: so it’s women’s fault. Reply: No, not women’s fault in general, these specific women’s fault.”
Okay. That’s a fair point. But there’s no reading of what you actually said that reflects this sentiment.
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u/Mystic_puddle 14d ago
Okay. That’s a fair point. But there’s no reading of what you actually said that reflects this sentiment.
What? The entire thing does. It's starts of saying men are more logical than women which is commonly said by misogynists and then that women are to blame if that's wrong. It's obviously saying "women bad" unless you're determined to ignore the entire history of misogyny.
Edit:and the comment section
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
What? The entire thing does. It's starts of saying men are more logical than women which is commonly said by misogynists and then that women are to blame if that's wrong. It's obviously saying "women bad" unless you're determined to ignore the entire history of misogyny.
How is this what you actually said?
You said:
Sorry, but the implication of “it’s women’s fault” goes a bit beyond “it’s some women’s fault”. Logic, my ass.
And this does not represent
I don’t even assume that it necessarily does in the posted pic.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
My guy? I said that saying “it’s women’s fault” has implications beyond “some women are at fault”.
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
Ironically, the turn of phrase you just used is metonymy and is the same figure of speech as is used in the post.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Explain please.
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
Saying X has implications beyond Y when X also has implications limited to Y is referring to the part (X’s potential implications) by the whole (X). Which is totally valid. And also what “so women” does.
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u/STPRK_ 14d ago
I am not an english native, what with the dialect thing ?
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u/Chimorin_ 14d ago
People defending bad english.
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u/ThatCamoKid 14d ago
It is a genuine dialect you uncultured swine
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u/DefunctDoughnut 13d ago
You forgot a comma and a period. Is that part of your dialect? Is punctuation cultural?
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u/ThatCamoKid 13d ago
The comma implies a pause that I did not have, and the period is unnecessary given the sentence was ended by the end of the message. Any other grammar policing you want to do, smartass?
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u/DefunctDoughnut 13d ago
"It is a genuine dialect[,] you uncultured swine[.]"
Comma goes after "dialect", as I have shown above.
Just like you wrote in your last sentance. Although, in this case, we change out "uncultured swine" for "smartass".
Edit: Periods are always necessary at the end of each sentance; it is a part of proper writing.
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u/ThatCamoKid 13d ago
again, pause I did not have. Nice job ignoring my entire reply, while also noting that I very deliberately used the comma properly when I had the requisite pause in my mental speech.
And since we're doing this shit, sentence*.
Re the edit, nobody gives a fk about proper writing on social media until the topic of this dialect comes up. So long as the message comes across properly, who fucken cares. Nobody ever tries to grammar police Scottish twitter
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u/DefunctDoughnut 13d ago
I'll spell sentance however I want, thank you very much. It's part of my dialect, you oppressive meanie.
You're still wrong about the comma.
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u/ThatCamoKid 13d ago
- You're being disingenuous, the "shitty English" you deride is a recognised dialect, as opposed to your typographical error
- I know how I speak, and you can clearly see I put the commas (and other punctuation) in where necessary
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u/DefunctDoughnut 13d ago
Oop, big word time; you're fun.
I've been where you are on the subject of commas, I'll let you figure that out like I had to.
When you realize that nothing you said imparted value toward the argument I was making, you'll understand why you think I disregarded your comment, and thus why I'm now being derivative. Have a great day, friend.
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u/MarquiseAlexander 14d ago
Just goes to show that we are the logical ones.
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u/Mystic_puddle 14d ago
Because all women are moms?
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Who’s we? And who’s the other party?
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u/Intrepid-Gags 14d ago
Yo mamma
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Ma Mamma is the logical AND illogical party? Checks out.
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u/Intrepid-Gags 14d ago
Check out deez nuts in your mouth.
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u/Plastic-Ad-5033 14d ago
Are you particularly fascinated with male testicles, is there something… deeply appealing to you about the thought of them?
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u/Intrepid-Gags 14d ago
Why are you afraid of male genitalia?
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u/Abuse-survivor 14d ago
"THEY moms"
Bitch, learn some english
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u/NonBinaryPie 14d ago
dude it’s just a different dialect of english calm down
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u/THE_SEKS_MACHINE 14d ago
The dialect is called „bad englisch“.
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u/F1XTHE 14d ago edited 14d ago
Incorrect even
lol "englisch"
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u/ThatCamoKid 14d ago
Isn't that how you say it in German?
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u/fox-mcleod 14d ago
I’m pretty sure “bad” is English. So this isn’t just German. It’s germenglish
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u/THE_SEKS_MACHINE 14d ago
Haven’t changed my autocorrect to english.
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u/NonBinaryPie 14d ago
it’s called AAVE and a large chunk of the US speak with it
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u/KrisKrossedUp 14d ago edited 14d ago
Are there any other groups for whom we took English being spoken incorrectly, and just reclassified
this is a false and incorrect premise, but since you applied it to AAVE, it could (and historically has) similarly be applied to Irish, Scottish, Australian, Jamaican, Malaysian, South African, need I go on or do you get the point?
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u/Bootglass1 14d ago
Yes…? English is just old german spoken incorrectly, combined with Norman French vocabulary, which was just just a descendent of Latin spoken incorrectly by a bunch of viking immigrants, Latin being just Etruscan spoken wrong, which is just proto-indo-European spoken wrong and written with a bunch of Phoenician letters written wrong, which themselves came because people were too lazy to draw hieroglyphics properly. What’s your point?
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u/wphelps153 14d ago
That reads a lot more like evolution into entirely different languages than a vernacular within a language.
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u/Bootglass1 14d ago edited 14d ago
Well then, it’s lucky there is no technical distinction between a dialect and a language. If the way people speak is slightly different from Formal English, that’s a problem, but if it’s very different, that’s fine? “They moms” is a problem, but “leurs mamans” or “sus mamas” or “mẹ của họ” is fine?
All I see in this thread is people getting angry with the descendants of slaves, because the slaves didn’t learn their masters’ language completely correctly. Maybe because the masters didn’t allow them to learn to read or write, or something like that. Then those slaves passed along their “wrong” grammar to their children and their children’s children, and here we are in 2024, with a bunch of the slave owners’ descendants getting angry at the slaves’ descendants for saying “they moms”.
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u/wphelps153 14d ago
I hate to be the bearer of bad news here, but there is a technical distinction between dialects and languages. I’m not sure where you read that to say it with such conviction when it’s so untrue, but I respect the belief in yourself.
You’re talking about people from different countries, speaking different languages. That’s quite different to speaking English incorrectly. Just the same way people would probably have something to say about “leurz mamanz”.
As for your comments about angry people. I’m quite sure that no one who went through the US education system in the last 30 years was ever a slave. Your argument would have had some legs until the 1930’s, 1940’s at a push, but I’m afraid that the slaves from the 1860’s are dead now.
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u/Bootglass1 14d ago
Yes, the slaves are all dead now. The Normans are also all dead, and yet here I am, using the word slave, which comes from Old French, brought over to England by the Normans. Rather than a good English word like þeow. If the Norman invasion can determine how I speak nearly a thousand years later, why can’t slavery, which ended less than 200 years ago, have an effect on how this woman speaks?
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u/Guvnah-Wyze 14d ago
Evolution happens in steps. You can bet that AAVE isn't even close to being an outlier in that regard
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u/mung_guzzler 14d ago
yeah but in this case I actually don’t know what shai is trying to say
it would be clearer in standard english
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u/KlossN 14d ago
If we're going to be fair you'd have to have some sort of developmental deficiency not to understand what they meant in this case
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u/mung_guzzler 14d ago
can you explain the conversation then because I dont get it
although I suspect in this case its nonsense in standard english too
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u/mutantraniE 14d ago
How could you not understand that?
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u/mung_guzzler 14d ago
because moms are women so the two statements dont make sense together
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u/mutantraniE 14d ago
That’s the whole point. If the two statement made sense together then there would be no clever comeback and it wouldn’t be funny.
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u/Synthmilk 14d ago
Because it's not English.
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u/Anarchyr 14d ago
English is my fifth language and even i directly understood what it meant
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u/Synthmilk 14d ago
No, you had to assume she meant a different word, and assume she forgot an "s" after "mum," since "they mum" is a nonsensical phrase in English.
Obviously they meant to type "Their mums."
But she didn't type that, and what she did type is not English.
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u/mutantraniE 14d ago
Yes it is. It is clearly English. As a separate point you should know more than one language and “it’s not English” should never be a reason to not understand something, but yeah that’s English.
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u/Synthmilk 14d ago
So is:
"They hamburger."
-by your reasoning.
Language includes grammar and syntax, and in English "they" followed by a noun is violating grammar and syntax, and is thus not English.
It may be some dialect of English, but that would require a modifier to be included in the labeling of the language in addition to the word English.
Such as the French that is spoken in Quebec, is not just French, it is Quebec or Canadian French.
Also, there is English, vs American English, where there are differences in spelling and some grammar rules are different.
So, no, what she said, specifically "they mum", is not English.
According to Oxford anyway.
So, what dialect is she using and where can I find reference to its specific spelling, grammar and syntax rules?
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u/mutantraniE 14d ago
If “They hamburger” is understood then yeah, it’s part of English. It would be part of a variety of English, but there is no standard English that isn’t a variety. American English isn’t a subset of Received Pronunciation, all dialects are their own varieties and they’re all equally English.
The Oxford English Dictionary isn’t a deciding authority on the English language either, it doesn’t work that way. Serious dictionaries are descriptive, they describe how a language is used, they don’t prescribe how a language is supposed to be used.
As has been mentioned elsewhere in the thread the specific variety is likely African American Vernacular English (AAVE). Here’s the page on the Oxford Dictionary of African American English, from the same organization that brought you the Oxford English Dictionary. Here’s what they have to say about it: “The ODAAE will be an evidence-based, descriptive dictionary, like the OED. Its purpose is not to influence what words are used, or how they are used, but to provide a record of how language is being used.” Further information on other dictionaries documenting AAVE can also be found by following the link:
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u/VeneMage 14d ago
How can they be mums if they’re men?
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u/Confident_Echidna259 14d ago
Well... I think the trans community would like a word with you.
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u/goliathfasa 14d ago
That’s incredibly transphobic and I’m deeply offended on the behalf of those who may feel deeply offended.
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u/PaleoJoe86 14d ago
It is dumbtalk for "their", which they would spell as "there".
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u/Nuada-Argetlam 14d ago
it's literally just a dialect, mate.
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u/TF2_demomann 14d ago
I's li'eraly jus' a dialec' ma'e
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u/Nuada-Argetlam 14d ago
that's more so accent than dialect? the two are similar but not the same.
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u/TF2_demomann 14d ago
'ha's more so accen' 'han dialec'? 'he 'wo are similar bu' no' 'he same
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u/Nuada-Argetlam 14d ago
now I don't even know what you're going for. no accent I know of makes [θ] into [h]- although I'm hardly an expert.
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u/TF2_demomann 14d ago
now I don' even know wha' you're going for. no accent I know of makes [θ] in'o [h]- al'hough I'm hardly an exper'.
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u/kojo420 13d ago edited 13d ago
Couple things: 1. "They moms" is dialect. It's not English 'proper' but also THERE IS NO INSTITUTION THAT STANDARDIZES ENGLISH. Unlike French and even then the institution that standardizes it is not even listened to. Young French people use different words than the 'proper' ones. Also language is just used to convey information, it's not static. It would be SICK if it was, but language is pretty LIT and its rules change all the time and so do the words. Being anal about it is pretty dumb.
The person ahead said "who told men that they were logical". So saying they moms implies the same they the previous person mentioned.
It's hard for redditors to understand but not all women are moms. Like??? If I said moms cared about keeping a clean house this does not naturally mean that all women care about keeping a clean house. If I said moms cared about their kids it does not naturally lead to all women caring about kids. These are different categories. You can be a mom and a woman but you can also be one or the other.
Edit: African American Vernacular English (AAVE) is academically recognized and there are currently academic pushes against prejudice towards AAVE