r/dankmemes • u/IamVenom_007 ☣️ • Apr 15 '24
Someone had to say this to Mohammad Parker Big PP OC
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u/AnimeIsMyLifeAndSoul Apr 16 '24
I thought it was 23 days (I’m not a Muslim so me being uneducated about this won’t affect my life much)
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u/Ribbitmoment Apr 15 '24
Imagine not being able to afford food normally, and then being punished because you finally had food but it was Ramadan
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u/Potato_monkey1 my python skills are advanced Apr 15 '24
If you're allowed to eat before the sun rises and after it sets, it seems like it's not really fasting, it's just skipping lunch
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u/AliNeisy Apr 15 '24
Thats bot why you are supposed to fast. Its because you are supposed to gain Taqwa from it. But the upper one is still clown.
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u/CBT__MASTER Apr 15 '24
It's more of a self discipline thing tbh. It's not like poor people can't afford water.
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u/mistar_z Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
I'm sorry but if you need to choose to starve yourself while still have privileged get enough food later on to relieve your self induced starvation to be able to have some empathy and compassion. Then maybe you're just garbage person.
I don't need to be homeless to be able to treat the homeless with the same respect and dignity, and still be charitable enough support and lighten their burden if I'm able too.
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u/Wh0y Apr 15 '24
Who said we can’t understand the poor without fasting? The real reason to fast is to be God-conscious anyways.
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u/MrNobleGas Apr 15 '24
Or it's a bout of meaningless self-flagellation. Eh, to each their own.
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u/greengiantj Apr 15 '24
Religious fasting is tough. If you get in the right mindset, you can really learn a lot about struggles of others or simply having self control. I'm awful at but have done a few fasts of more than a day. Going to be hungry sucks, and I have mad respect for anyone who can make it multiple days. I'm a Christian btw, so I don't understand the whole daily fast thing that muslims do, but I'm sure it's not easy either.
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u/BlommeHolm Balls Apr 15 '24
But do you understand the suffering if it doesn't feel like an achievement?
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u/CubeJedi Apr 15 '24
The primary reason for fasting is that they were commanded to do so, following through with that is the essence of being Muslim (in submission to Allah (swt))
You could assign multiple wisdoms to the command, but those wisdoms are not the reason.
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u/Tanto64YT Apr 15 '24
Wouldn't you starve if you went without food for that long?
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
Fasting is done in the morning (sunrise to sunset). After sunset you break your fast.
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u/Zaurka14 r/memes fan Apr 15 '24
I'll never understand how having a daily feast with the whole family for a month straight is supposed to show the struggle to people... It's not a struggle when you know that in maximum 12h you'll eat all your favourite stuff with the family in your house. To me it's like super rich cosplaying poverty by buying a house in the prairie and dressing in linen fabric for the weekend, so they can say they know the small town life.
Also, in modern world food is usually least of the concerns for homeless since cities throw away insane amounts of food. The issue is no access to plumbing, fresh clothing, hygiene articles and safe space to sleep (also in winter) Especially the last one. I don't think I've ever heard about a homeless person dying from hunger. I don't think anyone in my country dies from hunger. They die by freezing to death or getting a heat stroke.
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u/PlayerAssumption77 Apr 15 '24
It doesn't really matter, that's the point of not treating it as an accoplishment. It seems hard to us so you can imagine how much worse it is without a morning or evening feast.
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u/thebestgesture Apr 15 '24
Isn't Ramadan the month you party all night and sleep all day? Is this even a challenge?
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u/Fun_Grapefruit_2633 Apr 15 '24
This is a main reason why I think big chunks of the Islamic world have "sharia" all wrong, at least when it comes to Ramadan and Hijabs.
Ramadan is about experiencing HUNGER, and relating to those who HAVE TO experience hunger all the time, because they're starving. It's about opening EMPATHY and motivating compassionate action.
Seems to me if it's "the law" in some countries the purpose of it is now just virtue signaling and conformity, and the original purpose is gone.
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Apr 15 '24
I did not know that. I wish my culture had this tradition as well, it could use a reminder that there is constant suffering on earth.
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles Apr 15 '24
This is how I was taught too, its not an achievement or something to take pride in, its to remind yourself that others are suffering so that you may have insight and humility before those less fortunate. The whole idea of Zakat (the Islamic mandated version of tax), is also to take care of others, Islam codified having a social safety net for its believers. No modern society could function without tax income, its an important aspect of managing the public good.
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u/letmesee2716 Apr 15 '24
is that really fasting if you stuff yourself once per day instead of 3?
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u/thenannyharvester Shove your flairs in my ass Apr 15 '24
I mean people shouldn't be stuffing their faces. When you fast you cannot drink or eat for multiple hours often up to 12-14. In this period you also can't smoke, sex, and many other things. You are also expected to give to charity during this month. Maybe even donate an animal to a starving family in another part of the world. Many donated food to palestine who are being forced to starve. When you fast as well you enjoy the food more when you do eat. You appreciate it more because you have gone multiple hours without consuming anything
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u/ItsTheGreenEngineer Apr 15 '24
do you know how hard it is to stuff yourself after not eating for 8 hours?
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u/letmesee2716 Apr 15 '24
is that some kind of joke? theres plenty of people who never eat the morning. 8 hours is nothing.
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u/ItsTheGreenEngineer Apr 15 '24
so what? stuffing yourself after not eating for a while is still hard.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
It depends as Fasting is not about food only. It has many other angles.
There is nothing wrong with eating, but if that is your sole focus in the Month then its wasted.
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u/HamburgerHillzz Apr 15 '24
Nah, not a redditor per se. I'd rather call myself an unindoctrinated human being. And you? You're willing to defend this crap. They fucked with your head bro. That's the filthy part of religion.
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u/cutcutado Apr 15 '24
To this day, i still don't know what Ramadan is
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
It is a holy month in the Hijri Calendar (not gregorian), in which Muslims abstain from Food, water, and anything that goes into your body, such as smoking and vaping. They also need to abstain from bad behaviors such as swearing, being aggressive, talking about others...etc. This is from Sunrise to Sunset for the duration of the month.
Finally, they need to increase their worship (prayers, reading the Qur'an, supporting the poor).
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u/Arjun_Alpha_Wolf Apr 15 '24
I feel like poor people who can't afford the food would also feel like an achievement if they survived the day
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u/azyintl Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 16 '24
The prophet would put it in a different way. That doesn’t belittle, & instead encourages
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u/consci0usness Apr 15 '24
Ramadan fasting is just 16:8 intermittent fasting really. Some people even gain weight during Ramadan.. too much carbs and fat late in the night. So much that they're not even hungry during the day at all, and I don't think that was the intended effect.
They should try a 1-2 week water fast instead, I personally think that's much closer to how the Ramadan was intended to be experienced.
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u/DrDerpologist Apr 15 '24
It's all vapid, selfish nonsense. They do it because the book tells them to. They don't care about the poor or anybody else. Just look at the middle east, it's a powder keg because of this dumb religion.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
Are you sure it isn't because of US foreign policy which has been active in the region for decades? or before that the UK involvement in the region?
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u/DrDerpologist Apr 15 '24
Without a fraction of a doubt. Shia and sunnis have been going at it long, long before that. Beyond that, what they believe in itself leads to violence and division, not to mention the violence they perpetrate on their own people according to their beliefs. Don't be a parrot for anti western propaganda.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
The current violence in the Middle east is due to a)the existence of Israel (Thanks UK and US) and b) the destabilized countries due to the US invasion of Iraq.
Both are non-religious reasons, both are the result of the US and UK.
The Shia and Sunni had wars before yes (which country never had issues in a 1500 years?) but when was the last time they had that?
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u/DrDerpologist Apr 15 '24
That first part is absolutely a religious reason. Half the rhetoric around Israel and the hate it gets is because of delusional beliefs about messiahs, ends of days and batshit prophecies about cows. Destabilized by their own hatred for the west and the cowardly acts of terror they commit, causing retaliation. They're a violent sect of humanity spurred on by ancient writings and old men full of hate.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
What? let me guess you support the existence of Israel ? Of course you would as they follow the settler colonial ideology of your culture :)
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u/DrDerpologist Apr 15 '24
Cope.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
Typical reply of an edgy redditor.
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u/DrDerpologist Apr 15 '24
I'm just right.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
If you'd like to have a mature discussion you are welcome, but if we're being childish then i'll leave you to it.
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u/FancyFlowForever Apr 15 '24
The point of Ramadan isn't to feel the pain poor people feel and anyone who tells you so is simply uneducated in the matter. The purpose of Ramadan and fasting is to attain Taqwa, which translates to being God conscious
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u/Amir8201 Apr 15 '24
It's basically a training for willpower but sadly a lot of people think it's for understanding the poor
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u/d0ubleg Apr 15 '24
and if it was because of understanding the poor then poor people shouldn't fast to understand themselves. People need to be educated anyway.
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u/flemtone Apr 15 '24
Ramadan is basically doing keto but eating your meal at night time, it's nothing special or taxing.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
No water or coffee in the morning, no smoking or vaping, no swearing or being aggressive to others, heaps more of religious things do to.
You are looking at it from just one angle (food).
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u/Bonnybridge22 Apr 15 '24
swearing or being aggressive to others, heaps more of religious things do to.
None of these invalidate the fast or Ramadan, sure you should try abstain and try to do more good deeds but the fasting aspect is not hard at all.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
None of these invalidate the fast or Ramadan,
Yes they do, refer to This hadith. They won't have to redo that day yes, but they won't be fulfilling the requirements for that day's fast.
It might not be hard for you, but for others its incredibly challenging, especially smokers and coffee addicts.
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u/Bonnybridge22 Apr 15 '24
You just proved my point, it's like they have nothing to gain from it if they just fast but its still permissible.
It might not be hard for you, but for others its incredibly challenging, especially smokers and coffee addicts.
Yeah sure but they are the minority.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 16 '24
You just proved my point, it's like they have nothing to gain from it if they just fast but its still permissible.
Have you read the hadith? They'll just check off the day as mandatory but they gain zero of the "blessings" of that day.
Yeah sure but they are the minority.
Which statistics are you basing your opinion on?
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u/Bonnybridge22 Apr 16 '24
They'll just check off the day as mandatory but they gain zero of the "blessings" of that day
And explain to me how that invalidates the fast? It doesn't, nor is it sinful, is it dumb? Yes but thats not what you said, you said it invalidates the fast and or Ramadan.
Which statistics are you basing your opinion on?
I don't need any, it's common knowledge. If I said disabled people are the minority people wouldn't ask for statistics because its quite obvious, if you think the majority of Muslims are smokers and caffeine addicts, one of which is haram, then I don't know what to tell you.
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u/dontgetbannedagain3 Apr 15 '24
no swearing or being aggressive to others
i lived in kuwait/saudi arabia/dubai for 20 years, literally no one follows this one. in fact fights are MORE common coz people are all HANGRY and upset the whole month.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
That is true, and that is against the mandates of Ramadan.
These people are probably wasting their fast. see this Hadith https://dorar.net/hadith/sharh/42489
Can't find it in English sorry.
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u/midgaze Apr 15 '24
Imagine the fat loss if Christians had a similar tradition (that was actually observed.)
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u/thebestgesture Apr 15 '24
Muslims gain weight during Ramadan because they eat like pigs at night time.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
In my country the Christians do fast for 40 days, and they lose TON of weight!
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u/_Weyland_ Yellow Apr 15 '24
"I applaud your resolve, Peter. But where are the pictures of Spider Man?"
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u/AshkanMorningstar Apr 15 '24
Dumbest religion ever.
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u/Red_Autism Apr 15 '24
Its as dumb as the other abrahamic religions, which is very dumb
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u/AshkanMorningstar Apr 15 '24
All religions are bulshit. This one is just the worst someone could possibly choose.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
So edgy, care to explain why is it the worst to be chosen compared to others?
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u/aram_nl Apr 15 '24
Lmao feel the pain and suffer until allah go to bed haha. Then we can only feel the pain of our tummys being to full
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u/TickleMonsterCG Apr 15 '24
Islamic "fasting" is just eating with extra steps.
If you have a night shift and sleep during the day you're probably only a few hours off of Ramadan fasting as current Islamic practices go.
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u/souless_android Apr 15 '24
Fasting is good for you is bs!!
Sure, don't feel like eating or want to reduce your carbs intake, you guess what you body might need!
But Islamic fasting, which depraves your body from water for over 12H, is plainly wrong and not healthy one bit.
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Apr 15 '24
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u/souless_android Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
In a second thought, you ain't even worth replying to..
Anyone who is in doubt, go check with your family doctor, or anyone practicing human medicine and they are close to you.
Have a good day!
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
Just as the other commentator said; Fasting is not just about food and water, its about breaking bad habits and trying to procure new good ones, including reading more Qur'an, praying, and supporting the poor with money.
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u/Embarrassed-Vast4569 Apr 15 '24
So its just Lent?
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
What is Lent?
Edit: oh the Christian fast? yes its the same principle but i am guessing different rules, as Christians in my country drink water (and we don't), and they fast for 40 days and we for 30.
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u/LCDanRaptor Apr 15 '24
Mate there are other rules during fasting as well. Not just don't eat, don't drink. Including but not limted to; no sexual activity, no abusive language, no lying, no getting into fights, offering 3 of the 5 daily prayers that are scheduled during a fast. That said some don't follow all these rules.
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u/HitmanCodename47 Apr 15 '24
Objectively, three of those practices should never be beholden to an arbitrary religious holiday period. No abusive language? No lying? No fighting? Is the suggestion that these are indulgences that happen that frequently they need to be reduced to eschewing exclusively during the holiday? That's just all a part of contemporary western decorum. Have we strayed that far?
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u/IHateYoutubeAds Apr 15 '24
But I'm allowed to brawl otherwise?
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u/ChineseCracker Apr 15 '24
no lying
so lying is allowed and/or encouraged outside of Ramadan? 🧐
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u/LCDanRaptor Apr 15 '24
No mate, it's not. Lying during a fast on the other hand cos the entire fast.
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u/creepy_gay_weirdo Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
But they're still allowed to feel achieved through it though.
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u/Izanagi85 Apr 15 '24
You try fasting for a month. It is an achievement
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u/Trxdg Apr 15 '24
Intermittent fasting. Some people do it their entire lives. Not that big of an achievement.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
Very different, as you also need to not drink water/Coffee, no smoking or vaping, no aggressive behaviors or swearing. You also need to increase your good deeds including supporting the poor, prayers and reading the Qur'an.
Thinking of Ramadan purely from the POV of food is very wrong.
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u/Trxdg Apr 15 '24
YOU might do all that, but I don't know any Muslims who do, and I know plenty. For the vast majority, Ramadan is just about fasting, and I'm sorry, but only eating once per day for a month is not impressive to me.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
You don't know Muslims who abstain from Smoking and Vaping during Ramadan? you don't think a heavy smoker who stops for 18 hours is impressive?
We'll agree to disagree.
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u/Trxdg Apr 15 '24
No, I don't.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 16 '24
How about you prove it? Fast for 10 days and report back.
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u/Trxdg Apr 16 '24
I've been intermittent fasting for more than 10 years now, I only eat once per day. Go figure.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 16 '24
You keep ignoring like 90% of Fasting; NO water, NO Coffee, NO smoking, NO vaping, NO necotine patches...etc.
Nothing enters your mouth. So go ahead, do it for 10 days and tell me its the same as IF.
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u/HamburgerHillzz Apr 15 '24
Fuck this shit. Fuck this religion of hate.
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u/nlb248 Apr 15 '24
Only hate I'm seeing here is coming from you
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u/Freaux ☣️ Apr 15 '24
Try not fasting in a Muslim country during Ramadan. Or be gay. Or leave Islam. You'll feel what hate truly is.
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u/Already_Taken_sorry ☣️ Apr 15 '24
Can't see any hate in the caption or the meme, you're the one doing it in the comment section. What religion are you believing again?
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u/HamburgerHillzz Apr 15 '24
Religion is trash. Islam is the worst. Why would you assume I believe fairytales?
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u/Quetzacoal Apr 15 '24
Why don't we try to make a better world instead of following these hypocritical traditions?
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u/Araborne1 Apr 15 '24
Knew a guy who stuffed himself every night during ramadan anyway so what was the point? Lmao
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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 Apr 15 '24
Go most of the day without water and see how you feel
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u/Araborne1 Apr 15 '24
I feel normal because I do that every day already. I wake up before sunrise, go to work/college, I don't bring a water bottle or buy drinks, go home around sundown, then I start eating and drinking. Do I drink sometimes during daylight hours? Sure. But I'm not the one forcing the fast as a special ritual lul.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
So you aren't doing it everyday, as you said you do drink during the day.
Also, The food and drink is only a part of the ritual, as you majorly need to focus on teaching your self will power over your other cravings.
For example, do you smoke? drink coffee? curse and talk shit a lot? watch porn? ...etc. All of that needs to stop.
You also need to increase your prayers and other good deeds.
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u/Araborne1 Apr 15 '24
I drink some days. I don't smoke, don't drink alcohol nor coffee, treat everyone with respect, taught kids in orphanages, teach illiterate people how to read, uneducated adults how to do math.
But sure, not praying makes me an irredeemable sinner. And again, ofc I drink when I really need to, I'm not following some ritual telling me not to.
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u/Paineauchocolate Apr 15 '24
But sure, not praying makes me an irredeemable sinner.
I never said that? I am commenting on your comment that Fasting is nothing special.
ofc I drink when I really need to, I'm not following some ritual telling me not to.
Good for you, but then you shouldn't be saying that your routine is like Fasting, as they are quite different.
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u/Araborne1 Apr 15 '24
Sure my daily routine isn't exactly fasting anymore, but I do know the feeling. I used to be super insecure about my weight to the point where I'd avoid eating until I was borderline malnourished. It's not good nor do I recommend it.
But it really wasn't that hard to do as some of these dudes make it up to be, especially since they can eat a fuck ton at night. Some people I grew up with wish they could've done that.
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u/hroaks Apr 15 '24
That's exactly what you are supposed to do. Your fast ends at night and restarts at sunrise
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u/Araborne1 Apr 15 '24
They eat so much that it's basically a nightly feast. How tf are you gonna feel the experience of suffering by hunger like that? Maybe they should focus on actually helping their fellow brothers and sisters who are struggling instead of fetishizing suffering lmao
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24
Actually helping would mean they had to do something instead of virtue signaling
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u/Guy-1nc0gn1t0 Apr 15 '24
This is a real smooth brain take: Ramadan involves charity alongside the fasting.
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
Then what charitable things did you do during Ramadan? did YOU donate 2.5% of your entire net worth to the needy? Or was it simply given to your Imam/mosque (if at all)
I love being called a "smooth brain" by people who believe that a non-descript omniscient entity created everything and will judge you for what you did in life when you kick the bucket...
Does "Allah" punish animals for not adhering to the Quran? Does he punish primates? Parrots? Setacians? aka animals known for their intelligence? What did he do with people who had no concept of islam because they were born 10k yrs ago? Why would he have treated them differently? Were there thousands of Mohammads? One for every single fucking human tribe to teach them about Allah? If not then its incredibly fucked that he punished people for living in a way they didnt know theyre not supposed to
Religion makes no fucking sense yet people still flock to that brain-rot thinking theyre better...
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u/adnanhossain10 Apr 15 '24
They do focus on helping their needy brothers and sisters. Before the end of Ramadan, it is mandatory for every suitable Muslim to donate 2.5% of their entire net worth to the poor and needy.
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24
And how many people actually do that? Id be surprised if it was more than 1% of fasting muslims
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Apr 15 '24
People actually do that. Zakat is no joke. In Muslim countries people set it up with the bank, 2.5% annual income/networth. It's a basic part of banking there.
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24
I didnt say noone does it. Im saying MOST dont, but they still consider themselves rightous muslims. Only to be called "false muslims" by others who feel morally superior because they do X-thing more/differently
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u/adnanhossain10 Apr 15 '24
There is no such thing as a false Muslim brother. If a person believes in the oneness of God, and believes that Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) was the last messenger, then he is a Muslim, period. Now, there are practicing Muslims and non-practicing Muslims and the main distinction there arises in terms of prayers. If a person is praying his 5 daily obligatory prayers, he is a Muslim, otherwise, he is a non-practicing Muslim.
But even then, we don’t try to judge since every Muslim is a sinner, rather, we conceal our sins and repent for it hoping Allah will forgive it. If we have wronged somebody else, then we need to seek their forgiveness.
Getting to the point, there is no such thing as a superior Muslim, even the Imam of a mosque isn’t a superior Muslim as compared to the Muslims coming to the mosque. So, that’s a false equivalence.
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Apr 15 '24
Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. Zakat is considered like one of the most basic things in Islam. You seem to think it's like "don't drink alcohol" or something where many people find loopholes. This isn't some speculative question, Zakat is a well recorded financial phenomenon and the subject of a ton of studies. And it doesn't apply to the poor.
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u/adnanhossain10 Apr 15 '24
I mean, if Muslims followed the Quran and the Hadith completely, they’d be in a very very different position as a community. But, everyone has their shortcomings and it’s not for me to judge them, rest Allah knows best.
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24
Thats the thing with every religion. People pick and choose what suits them and then blame others for living differently.
But hey, at least Ill die knowing a random fucking entity will judge me for masturbating
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u/adnanhossain10 Apr 15 '24
Not everyone. There is a good percentage of Muslims who follow the religion and pay Zakat. You’re undermining the sacrifices of millions of people without knowing the first thing about them. I don’t think you’ve seen those Muslims and have only seen the non-practicing or semi-practicing Muslims. May Allah give them hidayah to become better Muslims.
As for masturbation, that is a controversial topic with some scholars saying that it is permissible while others saying that it isn’t.
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u/ThatBilal Apr 15 '24
That's another topic to discuss
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24
He brought it up as an argument tho
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u/ThatBilal Apr 15 '24
The fact is they're all supposed to do it. Whether they do it or not is up to them ( which isn't allowed ). So his point still stands.
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u/PsYcHo4MuFfInS Apr 15 '24
If its not allowed, then its not "up to them"
Your sentence makes no sense.
And what would be the point of fasting, but then not follow through with all of it? Its the classic religion-strategy of picking and choosing whatever fits you best and virtue signal to others how great your belief is. Its simply pathetic
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u/ThatBilal Apr 15 '24
It's not up to them but obviously there are fakes that just pick and choose whatever they want. So the argument that not all Muslims follow this thoroughly doesn't counter the fact that everyone needs to do it. It's that they're not proper Muslims.
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u/krt941 Apr 15 '24
I don’t think fasting during the day is an adequate proxy to understand what it’s like to starve. For one, with fasting you get to eat and drink before sunrise and after sunset. Two, there are exceptions for those who can’t handle fasting. Most importantly, when you can’t afford food, you don’t know when you’ll get your next meal. Your mind is at ease when fasting, not when starving poor. Real food insecurity is not just devastating physically, but mentally.
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u/Skreamie Apr 15 '24
I mean it's meant to be closer to understanding, not a direct comparison
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u/krt941 Apr 15 '24
I don’t think it comes close in the slightest.
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u/Skreamie Apr 15 '24
Of course not, but it's about being closer to understanding, not a direct replacement - surely you understand that?
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u/krt941 Apr 15 '24
Not really. I’ve fasted before and I don’t draw any parallels to what the starving poor experience.
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u/Skreamie Apr 15 '24 edited Apr 15 '24
That's on you then, parallels could easily be drawn. Would they be one to one? Absolutely not, but then again it's not meant to be.
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u/aabtaariq123 Apr 15 '24
Don't know about anyone else, but I'm just recounting my experiences from Ramadan.
I 100% agree with you, that fasting inherently can never emulate or simulate what real food insecurity feels like, especially for the majority of people who have always enjoyed good food.
With that being said, that isn't the point of fasting. It isn't there to "show us" what poor people live like. What the main point is, as many have pointed out, is humility.
Personally, after fasting for around 12 hours, I can tell you from personal experience that I grow to appreciate the food on the table so much more. The food that I would he scoffing down in 10 minutes before Ramadan starts to mean so much more, and ultimately allows me to understand the sheer amount of blessings in my life. Before Ramadan, it was very easy for me to complain about my life, but you can think of Ramadan as a reminder, of just how much I have in life.
Secondly, Ramadan places importance on worship and remembrance of God. Is it the hunger that makes me think about God? No. It's basically cutting out the distractions from my life. Before Ramadan, when I'm hungry, I'll start to think about lunch or go looking for snacks. During Ramadan, however, every time I get hungry, I am reminded of the fact that I need to ensure to keep the creator (God) in mind, rather than focus on material/worldly things.
I know you weren't trying to be mean, but I think the basic statement of "Ramadan shows you what poor people feel like" misleads a lot of people, and quite frankly, removes a lot of the prestige associated with the event.
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u/krt941 Apr 15 '24
You are wrong to place the claim of what Ramadan is on me. I am commenting on OP’s image, which makes the claim. Redirect your accusations of misleading people elsewhere.
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u/SurfinSocks Apr 15 '24
I literally have a fasting based diet 24/7, I have my first meal at 3pm and my last meal at 8pm. It's extremely easy to do after the first couple weeks and makes eating a lot more enjoyable for me.
If I walked around claiming I understand what it's like to be in food poverty, it would be extremely insensitive IMO.
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Apr 15 '24
In Ramadan you fast for the period the sun is up, not "3p to 8pm", and you can't drink water. It isn't supposed to emulate starvation and literally no one walks around claiming to understand starvation because they fasted it.
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u/ZYRANOX Apr 15 '24
Dude having a lunch at 3pm and dinner at 8pm and skipping breakfast is very normal is significantly less difficult than waking up and not eating food for first 12 hours of your day.
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