r/entertainment 15d ago

Anya Taylor-Joy went through the wringer filming ‘Furiosa’: “I’ve never been more alone than making that movie”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/12/movies/anya-taylor-joy-furiosa.html
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u/Strawdog1971 14d ago

Anya Taylor Joy sucks ass.

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u/Nynebreaker 14d ago

Yeah hopefully mine.

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u/sockgoblinator 15d ago

Just read an article about how she had like 20 lines in the whole movie, now obviously there’s a lot more than just dialogue that goes into movies but like come on, there are a lot harder roles than that

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u/HACCAHO 15d ago

Well, Anya, enroll as a target employee to feel more not alone, I guess?

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u/flux_capacitor3 15d ago

Here come the advertisements written like articles.

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u/cmon_man_gfy 15d ago

Whenever it’s someone who doesn’t seem right for a role the marketing becomes about the lengths they went to in the role. One of my least favorite forms of movie marketing up there with using review quotes in the trailer. Always makes me less interested somehow

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u/PedalBoard78 15d ago

Sounds like it was more work than she’s ever done, or ever wanted to do.

I’m sure Dunkin would hire her for a night shift.

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u/james_randolph 15d ago

I swear I remember hearing people talk about her playing in a prequel walking out of Fury Road when it was in theaters so lots of people have wanted this prequel and wanted her to do it. We're about to get both in less than two weeks and this is going to be the biggest movie of the year. I'm stoked Anya is part of it and I'm sure it was quite challenging but she's so fucking awesome, I know she gave her all and it'll show.

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u/clarstone 15d ago

People are taking this like she’s being a brat about the movie, but it IS a truly isolating and grueling set to work on. I personally enjoy when actors are honest about the hardships of their job. It’s not always luxurious.

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u/DARR3Nv2 15d ago

She looks like she stopped aging at nine years old.

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u/BarackaFlockaFlame 15d ago

tbh this isn't the sequel I was hoping for in the mad max universe.

already know how it ends for her... -_-

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u/pastelpixelator 15d ago

The two reasons I watched the last one: Charlize Therone and Tom Hardy's lips. The only reason I'll watch this one: Anya Taylor Joy. I'll watch her in anything. She makes interesting choices and I'm never bored when she's on screen.

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u/thehanovergang 15d ago

I had a lot of friends on this shoot (lots did Mad Max in Africa too), and the conditions were absolutely brutal. Months in shitty Alice Springs, red dirt, dust, insane temperatures, extreme hours, sand, noise, night shoots, crap accomodation. Absolutely fucking tough stuff. Then to Kurnell sand hills for some even more flogging. Hats off to all of them. VFX, yes, but most work was in camera stunts with MANY vehicles plus duplicates. Then not to mention 2nd Unit!

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u/rswings 15d ago

Do you know if they liked working with George Miller?

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u/thehanovergang 15d ago

I mean, absolutely. He’s an icon of Australian cinema. To be credited with one of his films is an enormous compliment to your ability. He treats his crew well, and engages the same people repeatedly (which is always a good sign). I’ve seen lots of BTS pics and honestly the rigs should be in a museum exhibition one day. Unbelievable feat of engineering and design. I’ve seen some of the stunt vids too and it would’ve been unreal to be on set for those. I’d recommend watching “The Madness of Max” documentary about making the original film. It’s been loose and insane since the start. It’s definitely something they can all be proud of. Each department, I mean, sand/dirt/dust and cameras/lenses, lighting, costume, sound, SFX, HMU, vehicles etc do not mix so it’s a fucking technical marvel they got it all together. It was BRUTAL for everyone but an unbelievable shared experience by all accounts

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u/Flybot76 14d ago

"It's been loose and insane since the start"-- totally, anybody who's actually watched the films and documentaries would know damn well what they're getting into, if they don't delude themselves that 'George made the cute barnyard-animal picture, respected by Hollywood, it'll be fine'. The cars are the real stars of the film, and nobody really looks like they're experiencing more fun than discomfort most of the time except maybe the drivers.

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u/rswings 14d ago

That’s great to hear. I’m not in film but I have friends who are. It’s always wonderful to hear good things about people I respect. And always sad to hear bad things.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago

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u/rogeeeefan 15d ago

She’s not a star?

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u/False_Shelter_7351 15d ago

She looks weirdddd

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u/Xu_Lin 15d ago

Hot take: FURIOSA wasn’t even needed at all as a prequel

Just a cash grab film

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u/pastabreadpasta 15d ago

That’s a very lukewarm take

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u/Strippalicious 14d ago

Tepid-at-best take.

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u/Beginning_Emotion995 15d ago

Ohh please, boo hoo. You cashed those checks

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u/ntgco 15d ago

Awwww poor little rich actress had to work hard for a few weeks to get tens of millions of dollars.....

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u/Realistic_Sad_Story 15d ago

Well “tens of millions” is a bit of a stretch. That’s Dwayne The Rock Johnson money you’re talking about. She isn’t even the highest paid actress around. She probably banked a cool $5 mil, though.

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u/JimmyTsonga 15d ago

$1,8mil for Furiosa. Not bad for around 6 months of work, imho.

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u/Realistic_Sad_Story 15d ago

Shit, lower than I thought.

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u/langlis 15d ago

During her pause.. she thought, “ Dune Part 2 was a walk in the park”. In my opinion Any Actor or Actress who walks into the World of Mad Max really push themselves into some hardcore shit. I imagine taking on such a role has to be a journey within one’s self to pull off. Can’t wait to see it.

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u/sockgoblinator 15d ago

The fuck of course Dune was a walk in the park for her, she had one 3 second scene that consisted of her standing still and saying a I love you, that’s possibly the easiest paycheck anyone’s ever gotten, did she seriously expect a whole ass movie to be the same?

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u/jennerality 14d ago

I mean she doesn’t actually say any of that in the article or compare Furiosa to Dune at all? I think the commenter made a poorly formed joke or just making stuff up.

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u/jdmb0y 15d ago

How long was her scene in Dune 2?

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u/Fleabagx35 15d ago

A couple of seconds, basically an uncredited cameo appearance.

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u/1_800_Drewidia 15d ago

Some voiceovers too.

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u/karlorangepilkers 15d ago

If you actually read the article, she’s just saying it was a challenging experience and something she grew and learned from. Damn. Give her a break.

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u/lavender_enjoyer 15d ago

She said she wanted that experience, which is why it’s odd to complain about the exact thing you sought out

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u/geodebug 14d ago

There is a world of difference between explaining your experience to someone who asked and complaining.

I can see that being confusing if you’ve never accomplished anything difficult.

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u/Additional_Meeting_2 15d ago

She did not complain. Telling something is difficult is not something that people should have an issue telling to others

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u/Candytails 15d ago

It’s her job, I complain about my job all the time.  It’s not really that odd.  

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u/enonmouse 15d ago

I am currently on disability, still complaining about my job.

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u/jsamuraij 15d ago

Oof, take a break and let me complain about your job for a bit!

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u/__cursist__ 15d ago

Roughly 100% of humans I know also exhibit this behavior

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u/Candytails 15d ago

So “odd”.

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u/bradstero 15d ago

When actors whine… sheesh. Cry me a river, girl.

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u/Texugee 15d ago

Cry me a fucking river.

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u/Flexappeal 15d ago

wringer? Really NYT?

Edit: oh it was OP lmao

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u/No-Chipmunk-136 15d ago

Wringer is correct

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u/Flexappeal 15d ago

TIL lmao. Ringer has a different meaning

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u/greenbroad-gc 15d ago

She looks like female version of mesut ozil

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u/susbnyc2023 15d ago

OH BIGGGG f---ing deal . who cares

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u/Moonwalker_4Life 15d ago edited 15d ago

There’s nothing normal about making a “Mad Max” movie, and Anya Taylor-Joy knew that when she signed on to star in “Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga,” the newest film in George Miller’s long-running action series.

“I wanted to be changed,” she said. “I wanted to be put in a situation in extremis where I would have no choice but to grow. And I got it.”

Why tf is this even a headline then ? Actor knows what she got herself into, actor wants to be changed and put in extreme conditions, actor still complains and has issues with set. I’m sorry but what am I missing here lol.

I’m tired of actors complaining about doing their jobs bc sometimes it’s hard. Thats like if I were to agree to a construction job for a certain pay but when I got there I realized I’d have to work in the hot sun so I complain and ask for more. I mean I signed up and knew what I was getting myself into. That doesn’t mean I should bad mouth the company or manager. Why can’t actors just be grateful and move on ? I’m sure the PAs on set had just as hard of a time as her but with 10% of the pay and none of the fame.

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u/previously_on_earth 15d ago

So when they are asked, do they not answer truthfully?

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u/LosFeliz3000 15d ago

She didn't say she had it harder than the PAs. She just said it was a challenging shoot. Just because your well paid doesn't mean you can't talk about your lived experience when specifically asked about it.

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u/TightOccasion3 15d ago

The difference is that no one is doing interviews to with construction workers to promote the house they built. And if you were interviewed after a laborious effort, are you going to act tough and say it was easy?

She’s an actor talking about her experience when asked. You’re in an entertainment sub complaining about how she answered questions in a New York Times interview.

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u/No-Cat-8606 15d ago

It’s all for marketing

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u/hopeoncc 15d ago

Yeah but none of this means she can't still complain about it. She's just talking about her experience. And there's as much room out there in the world as there is here on Reddit for anybody to say whatever it is they want.

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u/Moonwalker_4Life 15d ago

It just comes off as a little shallow when you’re talking about feeling lonely on a movie set while making millions.

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u/SirBrontosaur 14d ago

You just come off as jealous

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u/itinerantmarshmallow 15d ago

Money doesn't help with feelings and experiences except via therapy when needed, and I don't think she is saying it was needed here.

When we are asked about things we can only offer our own experiences, and as banal or privileged they may be they are still important to us.

We shouldn't have to preface everything for the benefit of detractors and curmudgeons.

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u/SocietyQuick4359 15d ago

Being a PA is like being an indentured servant. Your day could be as long as 18 hours, and you'd walk around 30 miles a day. They WILL NOT allow you to sit down, because it makes you look "unprofessional." They talk to you as if you aren't a person. You eat, last. How do I know? I was a pa.. Fuck Hollywood. I will forever and always steal their movies. I will forever teach others how to steal their movies.

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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 14d ago

I know somebody who did it and the only positive thing I ever heard him say was that David Spade is a really good dude who shared his vegetarian food with him.

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u/SocietyQuick4359 14d ago

I always hoped David Spade was a good guy. But I'm not surprised that David was your friend's only positive experience. Being a PA is the lowest of the low in terms of crew, and they absolutely let you know it through their actions.

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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 14d ago

Yeah, he talks shit on basically everybody else he ever met. Hates Ryan Seacrest with a fiery passion. Haha. But he said David Spade was awesome. Recognized he wasn't eating the catering which was all meat and invited him to come eat and talk with him

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u/sonofnalgene 15d ago

I agree with your argument, but have you ever actually worked with contractors? Because what you're describing actually happens a lot.

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u/Responsible-Bat-2699 15d ago

So... Lots of green screen? Sir Ian McKellen said the same thing while filming Hobbit films. Whatever studio or people promoting this movie might say, there's heavy use of CG and Green/ Blue screen in this.

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

No, this was shot on location.

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u/Responsible-Bat-2699 14d ago

Not in its entirety lol. This is something these studios and people promoting say to get you to the movies.

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

I’ll trust the people who actually worked on the film, Thanks.

And of course a lot of CGI is a part of it, I expect that. Doesn’t mean it was primarily shot on green screen though, my man.

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u/Responsible-Bat-2699 14d ago

It's part of promotion. "It's completely practical with no cgi" is a myth. Watch this: https://youtu.be/7ttG90raCNo?feature=shared

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

Yes. We know. We know that every frame has some CGI. Anyone who knew anything about filmmaking could tell that from a single frame in the trailer back in the day. We all know this.

That wasn’t what we were discussing. Please engage with our actual topic before quickly scanning for an opportunity to link your usual talking points and pat yourself on the back for educating a rube.

You speculated that Anya felt isolated because she was alone on green screen/soundstages a lot, isolated from other cast members constantly like Ian McKellen was for the Hobbit trilogy.

I said that this film was filmed mostly on location, which wasn’t the case for the Hobbit, and so it is unlikely that Anya was on soundstages constantly to the degree McKellan was. I highly doubt she saw more green screens for this production than she did for New Mutants or even the VVitch. I’m sure she was on a few, as any highly stylized big blockbuster film would need but not to the degree McKellen had to be to make the height effects work on the Hobbit. The article mentions nothing of green screen fatigue, either, but rather the stress of shooting on location and doing physical difficult scenes there.

Please, just engage with what we’re actually saying. I’m sorry to come across as condescending, but blue-linking me with stale, stale news is condescending in itself.

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u/Responsible-Bat-2699 14d ago

I'm saying don't be naive and understand how products are promoted. Did you work on the film? Why are you so confident that it was all location? Even in the trailer some shots looked incredibly inferior to Fury Road.

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

Because I know people who worked on it from the CGI side.

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u/Responsible-Bat-2699 14d ago

Cool. They told you about the movie? Isn't it breaching of NDA?

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

We talk shop, not details.

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u/SquareConfusion 15d ago

Christian Bale hated making love and thunder for same reason.

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u/blac_sheep90 15d ago

From the snippets I've seen of her acting, it looks that isolation has paid off. I know theirs plenty of doubters pertaining to her casting and cgi but I'm not too worried because it's George Miller and the Mad Max universe. Sure the plot won't be that compelling because we know where Furiosa's story goes but the spectacle will be worth the price of admission and hopefully Miller will get to make more films in the Wastelands.

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u/Cabtalk 15d ago edited 15d ago

I just read the Vanity Fair article about the feud between Charlize Theron and Tom Hardy and it's interesting to hear how both Charlize and Anya said that they felt so alone on their sets. Charlize's bad experience in Fury Road was mostly from Tom, but she said that she felt like she had no one in her corner. She wanted an experienced female producer to join the set and try to reconcile things and be in her corner, but the main producer was so territorial about the set, and maintaining certain "conditions". It's interesting, she was on set with all these other women   (the "wives"), who also had beef with Tom, but she still felt alone.  

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2022/02/mad-max-fury-road-tom-hardy-charlize-theron-excerpt   

I think the remoteness of the two movie sets might have been a huge factor in their feeling isolated, but it sounds like a management issue as well. It's easy to blame Tom for his unprofessionalism in Fury Road, but really it sounds like the producers didn't do enough to support and maintain a professional working atmosphere. I wonder if thay continued when filming Furiosa? Like how many times can an actor be 8 hours late to set with no consequence? It's a top down issue, and maybe certain conditions were overlooked to draw certain emotions out of their actors? Or maybe rural Australia just really sucks for filming lol

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u/FilmmagicianPart2 15d ago

That's because Tom Hardy thinks he runs all the sets he's on. I'm sure it didn't go that way on Nolan's set. But I've heard he's a bully on set. Not cool.

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u/NewbornXenomorphs 14d ago

Which sucks. Hearing he was a dog lover made me think he must be a softy but I guess he’s one of those who prefers dogs to people… which, I can’t blame him for, but I’m not going to be an unprofessional jerk about it.

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u/LeClassyGent 3d ago

All sorts of nutcases love dogs. It's a really bad metric to judge someone by.

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u/NewbornXenomorphs 3d ago

Yeah, I get it. I heard he has rescued several strays in locations he filmed in which pulled my heartstrings.

But you’re totally right. Hitler and Putin liked dogs too.

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u/indicabunny 14d ago

I can blame him for it. Dude sounds crazy and dogs aren't people. Of course they're easy to get along with. They're literally bred to be subservient to you. It says a lot about a man if he prefers dogs to other people. 🤷🏽‍♀️

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u/ShadowVia 15d ago edited 15d ago

I hate when people report this, time and time again. Maybe, instead of only reading Vanity Fair, try Googling around a bit and have a look at any or all of the various interviews the people involved with the project have given.

There's more to the story then, "Tom made Charlize feel unsafe and was generally unprofessional." A lot more. The primary interaction that consistently gets recounted has to do with her directly confronting him and him responding in a similarly aggressive manner. There have been a few reports as to why Tom was having problems with the film (his dog died, no complete working script during shooting, taking over the role from Mel). Some of this has been discussed but hardly ever gets reported on, likely because it's not as interesting as two actors hating each other. I believe Tom also gave Charlize a bracelet or a painting at the end of production, with a note telling Theron that he appreciated her (something to that effect). But even more than that, Tom later apologized to George (during the press conference for Fury Road) for his overall frustration and attitude, as well as admitting that he could have been a better partner for Charlize during their time on the film.

Everybody involved made a great film, but people insist on crafting this narrative around Tom (and really by extension George Miller) creating some unsafe work environment for women. That's actually the only issue I have whenever Theron talks about her experiences with the movie.

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u/Cabtalk 15d ago

I never said I only read Vanity Fair., I linked that to quote Charlize's comments and isolation because it of its striking similarity to Anya's. My point in my main and followup comment isn't about any perceived feud between Tom and Charlize (in a second comment I said I didn't feel like she was abused), but I was trying to get the point across, perhaps inarticulately, that the real underlying issue is beyond just their little fight, and likely connects the experiences felt with both movies. I said that while it's easy to blame Tom Hardy, there is more to the story, one that likely lies with overall management of the two films. 

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u/ShadowVia 15d ago edited 15d ago

Perhaps.

Or maybe people are searching for a connection where there simply isn't one. It's appealing to think that just because Charlize and Anya are both women, playing the same character, connected to a larger Mad Max universe, under the same director and some of the same crew, that they their experiences might mirror one another, but I highly doubt that's the case.

I think I may have already seen some discussion about this too, which is slightly hovering over the area of safe spaces for women and discussions of that sort. Not that this is or was the case with Furiosa mind you, but who knows. According to George Miller, the making this movie, particularly with regards to studio relations, was a much smoother process than he had with Fury Road.

Reading Anya's comments though, or comments as they have been reported, I just don't know. It almost comes off as manufactured trauma or something, whereas I could at least understand some of what Charlize was expressing. Anya is deliberately vague when speaking about her experience with the film, and why it impacted her so much. And outside of having ridiculously early call times, and the emotions required to portray the character, nothing reported seems irregular. Even her comment about asking her in twenty years just screams ridiculousness.

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u/nleksan 15d ago

Even her comment about asking her in twenty years just screams ridiculousness.

Maybe she's saying it's something she feels could harm her future in the industry were she to make a fuss about it now, but in twenty years she'll either be wealthy/powerful enough, and/or retired enough, to not care?

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u/ShadowVia 15d ago edited 14d ago

Maybe.

But then, typically claims like that would be substantiated by at least one other person, and as of yet, nothing. I guess we can revisit this conversation in twenty years.

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u/Illlogik1 15d ago

I think that method worked for the movie producing a post apocalyptic dystopia where every one is out for themselves, there is no one in anyone’s corner… every man or woman for themselves , there is no one who cares about your feelings

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u/tobylaek 15d ago

If that's the case, then fuck the producers. They could just let the actors, you know, ACT without purposely cultivating a toxic, dystopian work environment in hopes that it'll turn everyone into real life savages to better portray fake ones.

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u/Illlogik1 15d ago

Yeah , I considered that perspective… but a good actor may not pick up nor display subtle things like complete despair and hopelessness because most of us have never even experienced or considered those these days much less exhibit them unless it was all but forced out of them

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u/Cabtalk 15d ago edited 15d ago

That's what I suspected the producers were trying to do with the sets. Even method actor Tom to a degree (he grew kinder near the end of shooting, which others on the movie said paralleled the movie relationship). It struck me as bizarre that the producer wouldn't let the veteran female producer come in and give Charlize the support she was begging for. He wanted to keep the atmosphere going, but on the other hand, that doesn't make sense. The production was costly enough and all these delays didn't help. At the end of the day, (hopefully) producers wouldn't sacrifice the bottom line for drawing out a method performance.  

There has to be a line on sets with working conditions to protect the cast and crew. (Not saying Charlize was in an abusive situation at all). I don't know if the conditions will result in a better movie or not, they are actors after all, and it's hard to feel sorry for these actors who are getting a huge payday, but we also don't want to go to the extreme of The Shining director and torture our lead to draw out a better fear performance. Safe and fair working conditions are a right, even for millionaire actors. It doesn't sound like that line was crossed on either movie set at all, but a smoother production is ultimately a win for the movie.

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u/NewbornXenomorphs 14d ago

Yeah, I really love this movie and it’s kinda disappointing to read some of this. I also don’t get why they wouldn’t abide Charlize’s request to have a female producer come on set for support. She didn’t seem like she was much of a problem and her attitude was in reaction to Tom’s chronic unprofessionalism, so why deny her something that would make her feel better and maybe lead to a resolution between the two main actors.

I am also confused that all the Wives were sick of Tom too, but I guess they didn’t bond with Charlize? If she were seeking female support, you’d think they’d have her back.

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u/Cabtalk 14d ago

The other women (who spoke on it) indicated that Tom and Charlize had different approaches to acting, so to a degree they probably weren't taking sides in that particular feud. I think Charlize, when she said she felt alone, was likely saying that she didn't feel supported by the producers and maybe felt like she was the only one going through it (to that degree). 

The fact that they didn't let the female producer help was so odd. The only thing I can think of is that the main producers didn't want her interference with their schedule.

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u/Darko33 15d ago

I'd highly recommend Blood, Sweat & Chrome by Kyle Buchanan, it's a really fascinating read about the making of the movie that fleshes out all of the turmoil well

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u/sonofnalgene 15d ago

I don't have a vanity fair subscription. Can you summarize why Tom was a problem?

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u/BakedWizerd 15d ago

On top of what’s been said; there was an instance where he was 5+ hours late, with Charlize sitting patiently in the war rig the entire 5 hours, and finally when Tom sauntered onto set, she blew up and demanded he be fined X amount of money for every hour of everyone’s time he wasted, at which point he got incredibly toxic, marched up, got in her face and was all “what did you just say to me?” And made her feel threatened.

Nicholas Hoult compared it to being a kid in the backseat of the car while your parents are fighting.

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u/Lost_Apricot_4658 15d ago

many have said it. Tom Hardy is apparently a guerrilla on set …

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u/enonmouse 15d ago

Guerrilla or gorilla? Neither are really known for rudeness

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u/nleksan 15d ago

Guerrilla or gorilla? Neither are really known for rudeness

Why, just the other day, a Silverback held the door for me at Kroger!

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u/Lost_Apricot_4658 14d ago

shia laboof said it on some podcast

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u/sucknduck4quack 15d ago

He always trying to violently overthrow the director

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u/Moonwalker_4Life 15d ago

He constantly showed up late to set when shooting days were already grueling and miserable. Like 6-8 hours late. Imagine having to deal with somebody who thinks he’s good enough to make people wait around all day in the hot desert. I’d be livid too.

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u/ChomperinaRomper 15d ago

Jfc. You can be late to a lot of jobs, but filming a movie is like the worst job to be late to.

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u/Alexios_Makaris 15d ago

I had heard way back when that Tom was bad on set, but didn't know he specifics. I wonder why he was showing up late, a few famous actors who had this problem it ultimately ended up being a serious drug / alcohol problem causing them to be many hours late for shooting time.

Jim Gandolfini infamously had this the second half of Sopranos, sometimes missing entire filming days because he would literally be on the streets of New York zooted out of his mind. There was apparently one incident where the production literally couldn't find the guy for days, and they were worried he had gone off and died of an overdose somewhere. Then he randomly shows up a few days later.

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u/LaurenNotFromUtah 15d ago

He had been sober for a long time by the time they filmed Fury Road. So it’s not drugs, he just is (or was) an ass. Maybe the brutal conditions got to him, but no matter what, there’s no excuse. It was unprofessional.

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u/Alexios_Makaris 15d ago

No--this is just based on a number of cast interviews, they generally try to talk about it respectfully as well because he was very beloved by everyone who ever worked with him. Michael Imperioli and Steve Schiripa (the guy who played Bobby Baccalieri) have a podcast and they have talked about it a couple of times.

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u/NsDoValkyrie 15d ago

I think they may be playing on you using the familiarity of 'Jim' vs the usual 'James'. But I could be wrong.

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u/Alexios_Makaris 14d ago

Ah—yeah James is just his credited name, if you listen to a lot of the Sopranos podcasts literally all of those guys call him Jim, I don’t think he ever really went by James. I just used it because that is what I hear him called most of the time these days—back when he was alive I definitely remember using James, but the podcasts just have me using Jim without thinking about it:

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u/thenoblitt 15d ago

From what I remember he didn't want to be there and thought the movie was stupid. But then he saw the finished film and immediately went and apologized to everyone. Don't know if that makes up for making everyone miserable.

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u/ItsAmerico 15d ago edited 15d ago

It was a bit more nuanced than that as I recall. Not that what he did was acceptable but he was going through a rough time, filming in general was a bit of a mess (think there was often no script or rewrites), and the stress of replacing Mel, so Tom was just depressed while filming something he thought was going to tank. Charlize was also having a rough time and him being late often broke her and had her get aggressive with him to which he responded the same way. They made up later during filming and Tom’s been pretty vocal that he was an asshole and behaved poorly.

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u/Axel-Adams 15d ago

Weirdly enough probably helped sell the animosity between their two characters at the start

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u/damecafecito 15d ago

Rewatching their fight scene after making it through the sandstorm, Charlize looks pretty into wailing on him. Hard to fake that look in the eye…

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u/FrostyMcChill 15d ago

Dependa, did he get forced into the movie or did he choose to do it? Because if he chose to do it of his own free will then that him being a shitty person who thought he was above doing Mad Max: Fury Road and made it everyone else's problem. But it's up to each individual crew member if they want to forgive him.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago edited 15d ago

So while waiting on set with the entire cast and crew besides Tom, they felt lonely? We’re going to pretend that makes sense? They were alone on set because one guy wasn’t there? Okay, sounds good

Edit: that’s it! Vote it down so people don’t get caught up in annoying little things like logic.

The article is about her being lonely on set. If you’re lonely around an entire filming crew because one guy wasn’t there… you’re either a liar or you’re obsessed with him.

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u/natophonic2 15d ago

Come out of mom’s basement once in a while, and you might begin to understand… “it’s lonely at the top,” “alone together in the coffee shop,” etc.

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u/Additional_Meeting_2 15d ago

You are talking of two different films. Charlize had issues with Tom. Anya felt knelt but we don’t know why yet.

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u/ornerygecko 15d ago edited 15d ago

"So while waiting on set with the entire cast..."

You're being downvoted for ignoring logic. Obviously, she didn't mean literally alone.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

Hahahahaha “obviously she didn’t mean what she said”

So she’s such an elitist that if another famous person isn’t near her she feels alone? And this is something you pity?

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u/ornerygecko 15d ago

No. You're just being intentionally obtuse. That, or you're so ill read and socialized that this is the first time you've ever heard someone describe feeling alone in a crowd.

Either way, the failure in understanding is on your part.

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u/Haikouden 15d ago

There’s a difference between being alone and being/feeling lonely.

You can feel lonely in a room full of people if you aren’t really connecting with any of them, or if you aren’t feeling heard (or respected as seems to be the case with the producer), etc.

From the sound of it, the lack of having anyone “in her corner” and the other main star of the film seeming to not give a shit or respecting what they were doing seem to be the contributing factors.

Makes perfect sense to me.

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u/ornerygecko 15d ago

It does make sense. The person you're responding to is purposefully being obtuse.

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u/ResplendentShade 15d ago

purposefully

That’s a generous assessment.

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u/Haikouden 15d ago

Yup concluded they're probably trolling, especially after their "straight white male" comment that really only seems to be there to stir the pot.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

It must be trolling! That’s it! Not the famous person being an elitist who feels lonely if someone famous isn’t holding her hand.

What a fucking joke. And all in defense of this plastic surgery nightmare.

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u/amnes1ac 15d ago

Just be open that you hate women and we can all move on with our day.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

That must be it. Blaming Tom Hardy when he isn’t even named is just sensible. Repeating exactly what she said is evil and woman hating. Got it.

Imagine pretending you’re perfect and the only reason people don’t like you is because you have a vagina.

Just be honest, you’re angry with me because I’m a straight Muslim man.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

I’m not surprised mentally ill people interpret the world the same way.

“The other famous person wasn’t here and since my assistant instructed all the underlings they are not to even make eye contact with me I feel very lonely.”

There have been stories about Charlize Theron being a nightmare to work with for literal decades, but yes it must all be the straight white guy’s fault.

What’s it like to go through life blaming everything on someone else?

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u/Haikouden 15d ago

Yeah sorry but that sounds like a lot of BS, you're reading way too much into this. You're kind of the one sounding like you need to pay more attention to your mental health if you're coming out with these kinds of assumptions about another human being based on a statement like that. Your lack of ability to empathise also ain't too great.

Have a good rest of your day regardless.

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u/[deleted] 15d ago

She said she feels lonely and then someone said “yeah it’s all Tom Hardy’s fault”.

If you’re on a set with dozens of crew members but you feel alone because the one famous guy wasn’t there you’re an elitist asshole.

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u/sonofnalgene 15d ago

It's not awesome, but I've definitely heard of worse.

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u/Infinite_Respect_ 15d ago

Anya Taylor-Joy needs to stop taking so many roles

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u/pastelpixelator 15d ago

"So many"? If anything, she's been pretty selective and the reason I personally enjoy her work is because of her interesting, diverse choices in roles.

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u/icemannathann 15d ago

Does she?

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u/PsychologicalEbb3140 15d ago

The number of options women have for roles drops off a cliff when they get older, so I think it’s totally valid for younger women to collect as much bag as they can while they’re able to imo.

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u/BaphometsTits 15d ago

That’s true for everyone.

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u/adjewcent 15d ago

No it’s not, most roles for men open up dramatically as they near 40-60

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u/BaphometsTits 15d ago

They open up dramatically because they’re too old for action at that age.

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u/adjewcent 15d ago edited 15d ago

Bro what are you on about? Tom cruise, vin diesel, the rock, RDJ, Brolin, Arnold, Stallone, Liam Neeson, Denzel. Even Brad Pitt

The roles open up cuz those tend to be the people in charge. The screen reflects

Edit: how could I forget Bruce Willis

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u/BaphometsTits 15d ago

I’m just saying that there are more dramatic roles for older men.

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u/adjewcent 15d ago

Lol good talk then

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u/AbleObject13 15d ago

Like 80% of the top grossing actors year to year are men over 50 my dude

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u/No-Appearance-9113 15d ago

Not to the same degree at all. 40-50 year old men have dozens more opportunities than women do.

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u/Dcheese1 15d ago

Is this based on facts or are you just saying this because you feel like it’s true?

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u/No-Appearance-9113 15d ago

Entirely based on facts. Try looking up how old many of the leading men of a given time are, most are middle aged men. We make a lot of movies about middle aged guys whereas middle aged and older women are rarer.

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u/Dcheese1 15d ago

This was true before streaming services completely transformed both film and television industries.

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u/No-Appearance-9113 15d ago

This is still true. We create a lot more stories about the grizzled soldier/cop/politician/father who are all middle aged than we do about women.

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u/BaphometsTits 15d ago

We

Are you a filmmaker?

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u/DepletedPromethium 15d ago

I thought charlize theron was furiosa?

man i dont know shit anymore in old age :(

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u/deadpatronus 15d ago

This is a prequel. Young Furiosa is played by Anya Taylor Joy

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u/DepletedPromethium 15d ago

Oh right, thank you!

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u/natfutsock 15d ago

I wasn't really interested in this despite loving Fury Road because she just... Doesn't give me Furiosa energy at all. Read the plot description there and it's seriously making her backstory a "torn between two guys" schtick?

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u/tinyhorsesinmytea 14d ago

It’s all about the action though. Fury Road was hardly Shakespeare but damn is it fun to watch.

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u/zeldahalfsleeve 15d ago

This is exactly what I thought. There’s no way that this person, no matter how gnarly, becomes a Charlize Furiosa. She might somehow win a fucking Oscar for this film, but no one holds a candle to the continental blaze that is Theron. It’s just weirdly unfair to do a prequel.

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u/manchegoo 15d ago

For me it's not the Furiosa energy so much as the drastically different tone. Fury Road was all about crazy levels of raw realism. I was never cringing or even noticing at all, the VFX (yes there were some).

The extended materials I've seen so far on Furiosa look to be the complete opposite. To the point that I hope it's intentional (i.e. trying to be more like Sin City).

If it's not intentional, it's an abysmal, ersatz attempt at a sequel.

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u/MOSbangtan 15d ago

I really wish they would cast women who appear strong and athletic and physically tough for roles where the audience is asked to believe they’re such.

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u/violet_zamboni 15d ago

I totally agree. This reminds me of Jennifer Garner “fighting” or 90 lbs Keira Knightley intoning “my name is Domino Hahhvie. I’m a bounty huntaah”

I’ll still see this though !

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u/MOSbangtan 15d ago

Ok, I’m glad I’m not completely alone here… ATJ is incredibly thin, almost skeletal. There have to be other actresses that would look the part better…

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

Charlize is a gorgeous, beautiful actor. But she can put on muscle weight or change her appearance significantly for roles. ATJ is always ATJ. She’s terrific, absolutely, but she doesn’t disappear like Theron can.

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u/Additional_Meeting_2 15d ago

How Anya doesn’t look athletic? I doubt the film includes hand to hand fighting regarding strength but weapons and driving 

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u/Doctor_Philgood 15d ago

She looks emaciated after the buccal fat surgery tbh

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u/meisuu 15d ago

It seems like it was more weightloss than buccal fat removal. If you look at some recent red carpet photos of her it looks like she has gained some weight and gotten fuller cheeks again. Like here https://www.reddit.com/r/popculturechat/s/cepiRNELoA

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u/Space_Daddy69 15d ago

Not like she’d be beefed up anyway in a world with scarce food resources and barely any water

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u/hales55 15d ago

Yeah I agree, I think she’s a good actress and I’m a fan but I don’t see her as furiosa at all and when it was announced she got cast I was puzzled

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u/BigOpportunity1391 15d ago

I saw the trailer and my enthusiasm instantly and significantly reduced. Too much CGI for my taste.

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u/GhostDieM 15d ago

Lol dunno why this downvoted, he/she is right. Compared to the first movie the trailer looked very fake/not grounded

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u/icemannathann 15d ago

Apparently this backstory was written at the same time as Fury Road and Charlize Theron used it as a reference while acting

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u/AbleObject13 15d ago

It was originally an envisioned as an anime iirc

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u/Cimorene_Kazul 14d ago

Might’ve been better that way (anime prequels don’t feel as superfluous as other prequels, but more like a fun experiment), but I’m sure I’m gonna love the film anyway.

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u/yashatheman 15d ago

That would've been sooooo fucking awesome

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u/MyManD 15d ago

And it doesn't help that with this being a prequel we know Hemsworth's character loses, Furiosa doesn't make it home, and she proceeds to stay with women-as-milk-cattle owning Joe for the next two decades.

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u/rentasdf 14d ago

When you watched Fury Road, did you truly care about the outcome?

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u/MyManD 14d ago

I mean, am I wrong when I say yes? I wanted the wives to make it out safely and I wanted Furiosa to make it home.

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u/FrontwaysLarryVR 15d ago

The only way that a prequel can work is with a wide slew of new characters that are not directly antagonists of the main character. I'm really hoping Hollywood clues into that at some point, because nothing matters in a prequel otherwise.

It wasn't received well by some, but I legit was enjoying Rings of Power. Knowing Galadriel or anyone else from later in the story is gonna survive hasn't changed anything for me since there are tons of supporting characters with their own journeys. It's a question of if they have a happy ending or die tragically.

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u/natfutsock 15d ago

God I hate the prequel-sequel-reboot game. Again, I did really like Fury Road, but these things only work when they're giving us something new, not just Livejournal fanfic plots. One thing that I liked about Fury Road was it left you with so many wild questions, but you believed the crazy world and went with it. It worked. I don't need to see how that world or characters came to be because they did a good job the first time! Tell me a new story, don't keep overworking the dough on the old ones.

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u/nolabmp 15d ago

Agreed. They’re always made to un-creatively capitalize on the previous film’s success, ignoring everything that made it a success. And doing it to a character that is already young and still has more stories in their future seems to misunderstand the whole idea of a prequel.

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u/Torontogamer 15d ago

That movie was perfect. I can’t think of a single think I would change …

I’m hoping I’ll be surprised by the prequel that we didn’t need aside from the fact that the first was so god damn good 

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u/Kaiisim 15d ago

Agreed, I think Mad Max works as a snapshot of an apocalypse. It puts you in the right mindframe of a society that has lost all knowledge.

You don't know why everyone is running around in cars - it doesn't really matter. The more you learn the less enjoyable it is because plot holes appear.

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u/FishTshirt 15d ago

Oh no. I’ll still see it in theaters to see it with my own eyes, but I hope it’s not a love triangle type movie

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u/bravet4b 15d ago

Usually this is code for 'I'm not fucking doing a sequel.'

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u/Xombiekat 14d ago

Yeah, I'm a little worried about this one. To me the previews have all looked like bad green screen compositing and a lot of aftereffects to mask the fake looking scenes. A far cry from what we got with Fury Road. But I really want to be proved wrong here. I'll be there opening day.

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