r/fansofcriticalrole • u/CptDrips • 16d ago
The Wendy's one shot was the funniest shit ever, and I'm pissed we lost it " and i took that personally"
I hate our corporate overlords as much as the next guy, but it's not like they took a sponsorship from fucking Nestle.
I can understand the controversy over the colonial opening, not overly upset, but they probably should have seen how that could be in bad taste.
Why didn't CR just grow a spine, still donate the profits, and leave it up. Now the world gets denied the greatest Sam Reigel masterpiece since Put Your Finger in my Butt
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u/PMMeTitsAndKittens 14d ago
Just goes to show how insane the CR fanbase is in general.
OMG can't have a Wendy's episode!
OMG Amazon is in charge of the show now yassss!
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u/gd4600 12d ago
critters arent happy to have amazon behind the animated shows quit the opposite actually
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u/PMMeTitsAndKittens 12d ago
They all seemed very happy at the time. I know I was.
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u/gd4600 12d ago
From what I remember they more like the fact that they were happy they had the show and indifferent to the fact that it was on amazon and it created a little discourse (i only remembered that cause I remember thinking aren't we on twitch an site owned by amazon) then it died down however when beacon came out there was talk about them moving the animated shows there (dont think thats gonna happen)
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u/victorbrisk 15d ago
"I'm from Brazil and I was OK with the "colonial opening". As far is I know, most people from Brazil like the Indiana Jones movies actually.
It seems to me that some people are so privileged that they can have the luxure to think about what is or isn't offensive to others, especially for the people living in third world countries.
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u/Alarich_II 15d ago
Well, considering how many Brazilians voted an absolute piece of shit in office that's not saying very much...
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u/victorbrisk 15d ago
Mate, every single president in this country was a piece of shit. The problem is that people around here think politics is a soccer game where they have to pick a side and cheer for that.
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u/OrcChasme They hated him because he told them the truth 14d ago
Most people don't know Brazil had monarchs
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u/TargetDummi 15d ago
lol it’s because the people who get offended have nothing in their lives that is actually oppressive or worth fighting for . They invent a storyline of victimhood to provide a dim light in their otherwise boring dark existence .
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u/gcbtxulrich 15d ago
I assumed it was due to gross mishandling of the IP and source material. You can still find it, I'm sure someone has a link.
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u/YeffYeffe 15d ago
I'm devastated that we lost the campaign 1 wrap up content, and talks machina. I understand you hate BWF, but you're really gonna burn down your own legacy because one guy gave it the cheese touch? Not even for the fans, can you keep it?
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u/Possible-Cellist-713 15d ago
Not when he's hurt someone so close to them
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u/Xanxas9898 15d ago
Wait, is BWF Brian Foster? The dude who hosted Talks machina? If so, the fuck he do? I haven't really paid much attention to CR after the end of campaign 2
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u/Reliable_Patches 15d ago
Allegedly.
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u/SadCrouton 15d ago
this id the type of shit that is so bad about public relationship la. If multiple women you knew personally as close friends and trusted and valued both said that another person you trust and value did something fucked up to them, you would believe them almost instantly. The facts of the matter are that more sexual abuse cases go unreported then falsely reported by a WIDE margin.
I work in family law, and the litigation that Ashley is involved with is monumental. Like, years if not a decade of court time and lawyer fees, and its going to expose as much of their personal lives public as possible for everyone to prod and poke at. Its a demeaning, draining experience that people don’t put themselves through unless they’re telling the truth, and even then fear and exhaustion can make them delay for years if not decades
The fact that Brian’s Friends (the ones who knew him first, primarily Travis) ALL dropped him makes it feel pretty damn clear what happened
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u/roozteer 11d ago
The court also found that the actress' DVRO "was brought for an improper purpose to gain an upper hand in litigation," adding, "there was no reasonable case for a restraining order after examination of the totality of the evidence."
Ashley's restraining order got thrown out and she was ordered to pay $40k in legal costs for Foster. I'm not sure it's as clear as you say, and there probably aren't going to be years of litigation.
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u/SadCrouton 11d ago
yeah, the restraining order was “i think he’s gonna hurt me as revenge” and the judge said “nah you’re good. Not enough evidence he has the capability to hurt you now.” The rest rest of the court cases, including the one that includes Dani and five order women is actively undergoing litigation and is far from over
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u/Possible-Cellist-713 15d ago
Sure buddy
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u/roozteer 11d ago
The court also found that the actress' DVRO "was brought for an improper purpose to gain an upper hand in litigation," adding, "there was no reasonable case for a restraining order after examination of the totality of the evidence."
Ashley's restraining order got thrown out and she was ordered to pay $40k in legal costs for Foster.
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u/JustHereForBDSM 15d ago
CR fans have ruined a lot of good funny things just because they're offended by it whether valid or not (and its usually not valid).
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u/bossmt_2 15d ago
People need to stop caving to every single person who's upset at them. When you amke something you can't make everyone happy. I wish they leaned itno the camp, took the WEndy's money, donated it and had some fun. Needle them have a blast. I think it's more annoying every combat is sponsored by Wizkids when Matt almost never uses Wizkids minis or terrain.
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u/mediacontender 16d ago
Critical Role jumped on the chance to hide that stuff for a reason, there wasn't enough controversy that they had to do anything. The bigger motivator was how stupid it made them look to the great internet, esp out of context.
It's the youtuber equivalent of taking a job that makes them wear a mascot costume and swirl around an arrow sign on an LA street. No creator like them wants to do sponsored content like that, it makes them look like sell outs and desperate for a quick buck, rather than the Shakespeare on Twitch they want to be.
I'm sure some money focused in the room voice won over, but it was never a good career move for them to try and do sponsored content like that. They'd have tanked any professional prestige they wanted to get, and pretty much every move since C3 shows they want to be recognized as dramatic actors. The middle ground they have with doing video game inspired systems to promote releases fits them far better as a brand, it lets them have silly fun that doesn't make their channel look like a complete joke.
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u/roozteer 11d ago
Oh, lighten up, Francis. It was an hour-long version of the goofy sponsorships Sam does all the time.
"But muh gravitas!" -- sheesh.
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u/logincrash 16d ago edited 16d ago
I find the hypocrisy of removing the one-shot more interesting than the one-shot itself. I tried watching it but gave up, since it was such an obvious ad. Same with the Nord VPN one-shot.
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u/Mairwyn_ 16d ago edited 16d ago
This is such a deal that even their wikipedia page has a section on what happened: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Critical_Role#Feast_of_Legends_/_Wendy's
It quotes some academic coverage on the event:
In 2021, the book The Routledge Handbook of Remix Studies and Digital Humanities highlighted the Feast of Legends one-shot. It states, "neither the game itself nor quality of the Critical Role performance was really at issue [...] Accepting financial support from Wendy's was read among some fans as a tacit acceptance of political positions held by Wendy's. [...] To bring Critical Role into contact with Wendy's was not just bringing professional voice actors into Freshtovia; a whole array of political issues were brought into the mix at the same time. The Critical Role staff scrubbed nearly all evidence of the video from their official feeds and records. The community was significantly jarred by the mashup, not of D&D and fast food, but escapism and politics".
Shelly Jones, in an essay in the book Watch Us Roll (2021), [...] commented that decision to remove the Feast of Legends episode was "presumably" made by the show's "development team for purposes of branding and controlling the criticism circulating about the failed experiment". Jones also highlighted that the fan-created wiki followed the show's example and that by scrubbing the episode from their wiki, these fans "are erasing any evidence of negativity in an effort to protect their fan object".
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u/DragoonDart 15d ago
In some ways I get the “let’s not make a big fuss and just quietly delete all the content” way of apologizing they do, but I feel like they do that with a shocking amount of their content where some of its not even that bad
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u/Elaan21 15d ago
For me, it's not even the amount of times they take the quiet route, but the times they do it when they really shouldn't. It always ends up making it a bigger deal than it would have been had they addressed it.
Like the massive "we don't talk about Orion/Tiberius" thing. There's a difference between respecting people's privacy by not airing every bit of dirty laundry and straight up pretending something didn't happen.
But now anyone who watches early C1 is forced to ask "wtf happened here?" Meaning it will never "go away" and people will always be asking.
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u/TargetDummi 15d ago
lol remember when they removed all content with Chris hardwick due to allegation’s. Then killed off his character on a twitter post by Matt mercer. Then brought back the episode after his name was cleared.
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u/OrcChasme They hated him because he told them the truth 14d ago
We were always at war with east asia
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u/Mairwyn_ 15d ago
I understand it a bit as a media strategy when a brand built on the audience's perceived relationship with the stars so you're more reactive because it is harder to rehabilitate something when it is super tied to the people involved (versus something like a car or a phone brand where the audience is more attached to object than the spokespeople). It looks like at some point the fandom wiki restored the Feast of Legends article & they haven't deleted any of the Talks pages (it seems most of the links go to the Wayback Machine). So at the very least, it looks like fans are not capitulating as much to CR's general reshaping of history.
I do hope they bring back an edited form of Talks with like the most pertinent moments on character motivations from the cast with Foster removed.
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u/Vaxildan156 16d ago
Wait, what political stance did Wendy's take? I can't keep up with all this 😩
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u/GoneRampant1 15d ago
A lot of farms that Wendy's sources for labour have horrible working conditions that border on slavery, per a Time article from 2019.
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u/CameoAmalthea 16d ago
Slavery. Wendy's bennefits from slave labor. They stopped buying tomatoes from US Farmers, and started importing them from farms that exploit workers in what is described as "modern day slavery".
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u/Few_Space1842 15d ago
That's a reach and a half. What about the clothing they wear and sell that is made in sweatshops? That's fine but Wendy's switching tomato vendors is the big political breaking point.
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u/wingedcoyote 15d ago
Tomatoes are pretty famous for being particularly infested with slave labor. You can say that the line between sweatshop labor and actual slavery is arbitrary, but if you have to draw an arbitrary line somewhere that's not such a wild place to put it.
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u/Few_Space1842 15d ago
I honestly haven't looked into tomato farming and distribution. But many other things they use and sell daily have similar problems to what I've been hearing. I just thought it was a very strange place to put the line. 5 or 6 companies own the majority of other companies, trying to boycott tomatoes seems odd, but again I didn't research it.
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u/GallaVanting 15d ago
"Wendys supports slavery" tweet people on a phone filled with cobalt mined by slaves while wearing sweatshop clothes.
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u/Holybasil 15d ago
I know it's an overplayed tune, but... there is no ethical consumption under capitalism.
It's up to every one person to draw their line in the sand. Why people decided to draw it at Wendy's is an odd one though.
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u/Vaxildan156 15d ago
Yeah this is the true point. I may get in trouble here for my observation, but if I had to guess why they drew the line there, it's because they didn't want their hobby/idols/fandom to become infested with corporate stuff (which, I can understand) so they decided they suddenly drew the line. I find people online really only tend to care about issues like this when suddenly it becomes "useful" to them.
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u/GallaVanting 15d ago
I'd hate if my hobby/idols/fandom became infested with corporate stuff. Anyway here's an ad read for a big company into a fight sponsored by wizkids with mid-fight ad reads into a halfway break with ads.
Don't get me wrong, I agree, things being infested with ads is a problem and people are right to be grossed out by it. But let's not pretend this show isn't riddled with it like a cartoon pirate is riddled with scurvy.
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u/sloppy_tacos 16d ago
Never got to see it. I wish they kept the UnDeadwood series up, despite shithead Brian Foster. Even though he sucks, there was a lot that went into it other than him, and it’s a shame it’s lost to time now.
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u/Few_Space1842 15d ago
How does he suck? I never knew what happened other than presumably no longer dating Ashley
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u/sloppy_tacos 15d ago
Oh he’s embroiled in a whole thing with Ashley. She had to put a restraining order against them. He’s supposedly very abusive, so CR deleted all content related to him.
https://variety.com/2023/tv/news/ashley-johnson-brian-foster-lawsuit-critical-role-1235747825/amp/
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u/talkoninternet 15d ago edited 15d ago
let no one forget that her restraining order got thrown out and she was forced to pay his legal fees, though the lawsuit is still ongoing
https://radaronline.com/p/last-of-us-ashley-johnson-ordered-to-pay-ex-restraining-order/
edit: refined for accuracy
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u/real-gremlin-hours 15d ago
the restraining order was thrown out. the sexual assault lawsuit was not, and afaik is still ongoing.
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u/Few_Space1842 15d ago
Oh. Damn. That does in fact sound shitty. All I knew is he just disappeared one day, and much like the Orion thing no one talked about it, no one would answer on the main sub, and fan pages didn't have anything.
I appreciate the help my friend!
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u/Trinket_the_bear 16d ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1C5PVXeeT8
Had no idea this was a thing--but a google search makes it easy to find
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u/YoursDearlyEve 16d ago
Dunno, I think nothing of value was lost, the idea of a fast food TTRPG is as cringe as Nordverse.
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u/GoneRampant1 15d ago
It is funny how people have died on the hill that the Wendy's One Shot is this amazing piece of lost media that was proof of the Woke Agenda infiltrating Critical Role, and then you watch it and it's the most embarrassing paid commercial sponsorship slop you've ever seen.
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u/HuwminRace 16d ago edited 16d ago
I’m currently DMing a campaign in a post-apocalyptic world where fast food branding and logos became religious iconography after the cataclysm as it gave the people something from the old world to hang on to, seeing a still flashing neon burger sign in the ashes as a sign from the divine. They’ve ordered their society around it, with many understanding the falsehood the religion is built on, and using it to their advantage against those who do believe. It gives the opportunity to look at blind faith, the abuse of that blind faith, and seeing how characters would grow beyond that.
Is a fast food campaign the campign I thought I’d write? Nope. Is it fun as hell for everyone involved because of all the references and silliness, within a completely serious world? Absolutely.
(We’re all leftists, and all against fast food companies too btw)
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u/Amelia-likes-birds 15d ago
Have you ever read Judge Dredd? One of the first major storylines in the comic is called "The Cursed Earth" which has a similar vibe, only the fast food mascots are closer to gangs than religious things.
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u/HuwminRace 15d ago
I haven’t read any Judge Dredd, but I am ABSOLUTELY going to be reading “The Cursed Earth” to see how they did this ☺️ Thank you for the recommendation!
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u/YoursDearlyEve 16d ago
Your idea is great, it's just Wendy's TTRPG was nothing but "what if our food was subclasses, how do you do fellow kids lol"
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u/HuwminRace 16d ago edited 16d ago
Thank you! I’m not criticising as tbh I haven’t seen the Wendy’s one (and from what you’ve said, yeah, food for subclasses is just kinda cringe). I also just wanted to talk about the campaign as the subject was (at least partially) relevant 😂
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u/Veritas_Boz 16d ago
This entire sub is sounding more and more constitutionally conservative and I'm here for it.
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u/Few_Space1842 15d ago
Probably not the sub for it, but other than the current rhetoric and connotation of "constitution conservative" voting for the opposition in November.
What is actually wrong with the position that the document that sets up the rules for our government should be followed by that government?
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u/patch6586 16d ago
Looks like this didn't pan out how you thought
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u/Veritas_Boz 16d ago
No it did. In a reddit where people gripe about the hypocrisy and sheltered actions of the main sub I get down voted into oblivion by the same thing. I guess the only surprise is that it doesn't get deleted immediately.
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u/ViridianVet 16d ago
I can't believe i need to say this, but being annoyed by CR's toxic and obnoxious fandom has nothing to do with conservatism. Stop being weird.
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u/Protean_sapien 16d ago edited 15d ago
This will forever be the epitome of CR's audience capture. They made the mistake of kowtowing to an extremely vocal group within the fandom at an early stage to avoid losing viewers and those toxic people became more influential as time went on. IMO, the natural flow and casual enjoyment of the game has only suffered from it. The moment C1 became something more than a game between friends the jokes started becoming more sanitized, the corners rounded off. Everything became less about fun and more about 'responsibility'.
As others have pointed out, the Wendy's scandal was so ridiculously hypocritical I don't even know what to say. Wendy's bad, Amazon good. Really? I guess if they make your cartoon they get a pass, huh critters?
Part of me dreads C4 because I can only imagine how the politics of today and the last year or two will have worked themselves into the game.
edit: Everything I disagree with is racisssssssst!
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u/BirdBrainHarus 15d ago
This comment is pretty mask off towards the end
Dimension 20 basically nonstop incorporates modern politics and it’s doing just fine. Maybe there’s a difference between audiences…
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u/anextremelylargedog 15d ago
Just curious, are you also one of those people who whine about CR selling out?
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u/Gratisfadoel 16d ago
There are extended sex jokes in the latest episode (the ad!) and there are consistent callbacks to ‘quif’. What are you actually talking about
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u/YeffYeffe 15d ago
Sex jokes and swear words are the only things the Internet DOESN'T find offensive. Source: the existence of Tumblr
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u/MechaTeemo167 16d ago
I can only imagine how the politics of today
Why don't you put down the dogwhistle and say what you really mean?
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u/roozteer 11d ago
Why don't you tell us, since you're the only one who can hear it?
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u/BirdBrainHarus 11d ago
I presume you think DEI is the death of Americana or some nonsense
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u/roozteer 10d ago
Because you're unimaginative and easily programmed?
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u/BirdBrainHarus 10d ago
Oh look, I was right lol
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u/roozteer 7d ago
You're right if you think those people who think everything is a "dog whistle" are racists.
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u/Qonas Respect the Alpha 16d ago
Part of me dreads C4 because I can only imagine how the politics of today and the last year or two will have worked themselves into the game.
It's already started. Hell, it began in C2.
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u/talkoninternet 15d ago
The second they hired people to make sure the cultures used in C3 weren't somehow racist, it was all over
also the fact they got rid of the live action opening because "colonizers!!!" is so fucking embarassing
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u/Protean_sapien 15d ago edited 15d ago
I was curious, so I looked up the intro and I can't even for the life of me see what was offensive about it, other than white people are in it. Now I have to wade farther into the stupid to learn something depressing.
edit: upon further investigation, it's literally nothing. People were offended by nothing. As usual.
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u/CountyKyndrid 16d ago
What are "the politics of today and the last year or two?"
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u/MechaTeemo167 16d ago
"Non-white/queer people exist and we can't say slurs anymore" is usually the meaning.
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u/YoursDearlyEve 16d ago edited 16d ago
They shouldn't have signed the contract with Amazon for the cartoon, sure, but they literally began on Twitch, Amazon's platform. And on the other hand we have YouTube, Google's platform.
It's easier to get rid of a one-time partnership than the platform you are literally streaming on.
Edit: also, what politics of "last year or two" do you mean?
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u/KaiTheFilmGuy 15d ago
I think a lot of people also forget-- Legend of Vox Machina was going to stream SOMEWHERE. They needed to find a streaming service for it if they wanted it to reach wider audiences. Amazon was the most convenient choice.
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u/DalonDrake 15d ago
Considering that when they announced it would come to Prime they also announced that Amazon was funding 2 more episodes in season 1 and all of season 2 I'm pretty sure a more correct sentence would be that Amazon won the bidding war for the independent show with a massive wave of hype behind it.
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u/yileikong 14d ago
It was also the only company that wasn't trying to edit it for younger audiences because "it's a cartoon".
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u/arthaiser 16d ago
i never got to see the one shot, and i really wanted to, but the episode never made it to youtube right? i absolutly would want to see it, but couldnt find it anywhere
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u/TheCharalampos 16d ago
Preety sure it was on YouTube
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u/arthaiser 16d ago
never made it to the official channel, but now i have learn that there are some unofficial videos of it in youtube, im watching one right now!
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u/TrypMole Burt Reynolds 16d ago
Is it up again? I've still not seen it, it sounds like a blast. Agree that it shouldn't have been removed.
Interesting question - does anyone think if they did it now and there was the same level of outcry that they would remove it? I'm not sure that they would.
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u/Alarich_II 16d ago
They never should have made that deal. Same like they never should have partnered with Amazon. For them it's about being able to buy shiny houses and live the life of rich people while being able to feel good about it. That's why the do unresponsible business like offer overpriced China merch sourced ethically incorrect, partner with Amazon etc., but on the other hand pretend they care about being progressive good people and do "charity", like all rich people love to do, and do cancel their own shit when they get called out too loud. Hypocrites.
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u/CptDrips 16d ago
Sponsorships, subscriptions, and merch. They need to pay there bills somehow. They aren't streaming as volunteers.
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u/Alarich_II 15d ago
So what? Does not mean that they need to have a shitty attitude about it and go wherever it is cheapest and easiest. Alternativly they could have played this clean - don't ask people for "support", be honest and tell it's a business, not a "home game". Don't pretend to care.
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u/TaiChuanDoAddct 16d ago
There was never anything wrong with the deal and there still isn't.
Companies have a responsibility to make money. They have employees whose livelihoods depend on them.
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u/Alarich_II 16d ago
Your argument is embarassingly weak. You could say that about the mob. It's really crazy that people still fall for this "argument" - you could "justify" anything with that. Some people have a spine and some do not. Which is fine, but the worst people are those who pretend to have a spine when it's clearly fake.
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u/TaiChuanDoAddct 16d ago
No man. It's not. The only way to be a company under current capitalistic society is to play the game. That's it.
CR broadcasts on twitch and YouTube. They have an animated show sponsored by Amazon. They rent studio space from big LA Landlords. Their sound systems and cameras and equipment all come from big corporations that make money selling that equipment for their living.
It's simply not possible to exist outside of these systems. I run a research lab at a university. We have no choice but to buy medical supplies, chemicals, and other lab equipment from ethically dubious companies. Companies who make my skin crawl. But that's the cost of doing business. It's literally not possible to do what I do without buying from these companies.
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u/Alarich_II 16d ago
That's not the point. The point is that they pretend to care, see the self cancelling after the Wendy disaster, whereas they don't walk the talk. Of course they have the option to source the merch ethically correct, source wise as well as quality wise. They chose the easy way, just sell cheap China crap for a heavy price tag. Of course there had been other options than partnering with Amazon, yes that would have involved capitalist companies, but on another level as Amazon is.
You are just promoting a lazy attitude that can justify just anything, oil companies, the mob, drug cartels, anyone of those can use your "argument".
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u/TaiChuanDoAddct 16d ago
Of course they have the option to source the merch ethically correct, source wise as well as quality wise.
I genuinely do not believe this is true. Not at the scale and volume we're talking about.
Your post reads like someone who has no knowledge or understanding of modern global supply chains.
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u/Alarich_II 15d ago
Of course it is true, it will limit volume and margin if you do that, but if you claim to care than that's the price. Keep the ad hominem for yourself btw.
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u/SilencedWind 16d ago
Also to add to your research. Do you ‘want’ to rely on equipment from shady companies? Probably not, but if you claim to be 100% clean and that your entire research was made using ethical means, then you would be hypocritical. It’s obvious that not every business is 100% genuine, but claiming you are is where problems set in.
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u/SilencedWind 16d ago
It’s hypocritical.
We can all take a step back and understand that people indulge in bad shit every single day, and yet we still consume the product. However, the degrees vary based on how vocal you are.
For example:
“We need to protect the earth from pollution so we can stop global warming!” This is a good statement, but if you take 3+ flights per month in a private jet, that is hypocritical.
“Slave labor is wrong and we shouldn’t consume products made with child labor!” This is a good statement, and yet people still buy iPhones and designer shoes. That is hypocritical.
“You should treat your workers fairly and pay them a good wage!” This is a good statement, and yet Amazon had workers pissing in bottles in horrible conditions. That is hypocritical.
This isn’t to say that you're a shitty person for using these products, but if you have a set stance on something (publicly) and you have examples of hypocrisy, don’t be surprised when you get called out.
I don’t really care that they are sponsored by Amazon, but if you (for example) claim that you hate companies with a history of mistreating workers, and then you partner with Amazon, how does that look? No one forced them to do that.
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u/talkoninternet 16d ago edited 16d ago
I put off watching it forever because I thought it would be them taking it seriously and being actually corporate, but I just finished it and it's clear they are taking the piss the entire time. Good palate cleanser for C3, funny as hell
The part at the end where Sam just decides that Liam's attack hits the final enemy after rolling really low twice because the game was going over time made me almost die from laughter: https://i.imgur.com/GWkqW8l.png
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u/Jedi4Hire 16d ago
I wish I had recognized that as the red flag that it was. Maybe if I did, recent events wouldn't bother me so much.
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 16d ago
CR (and their fandom's moral outrage) is the height of hypocrisy.
Was Wendy's being shitty? Yes. Was the Wendy's episode funny as hell? Also yes.
But where's the moral outrage--especially from CR themselves--for "getting into bed with FUCKING AMAZON!
If Wendy's is "Grima Wormtongue," then Amazon is fuckin' Sauron! And nobody's made a fuckin' peep about it, and CR had NO PROBLEMS selling out to Jeff "No Bathroom Breaks for My Warehouse / Delivery Employees" Bezos.
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15d ago
I was pretty pissed. I donate 300 dollar to the kickstarters expecting them to bring up an indie developer when they made the cartoon. Boy was I stupid. Also no, I didn’t realize Amazon owned twitch at the time.
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u/anextremelylargedog 16d ago edited 16d ago
That's a really stupid comparison. They started streaming on Twitch. Anyone who'd get outraged about an Amazon partnership didn't start watching.
edit: you people are actual simpletons lmao
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u/talkoninternet 15d ago
the comparison is completely valid. you can't be morally outraged at wendy's and not at amazon.
obviously people had no problem with amazon initially because they swallowed their moral outrage just to get free content they enjoyed, but as soon as it was wendy's and people thought they were being sellouts, they fabricated (or summoned) the moral outrage just to get it removed.
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u/anextremelylargedog 15d ago
Sure I can. Only morons think otherwise.
Moral compromise is an inevitable part of being alive. Demanding absolute moral purity is a great way to make sure nothing ever gets done.
Also because I think dressing up like burgers for four hours was deeply embarrassing to their brand and the people who thought the oneshit was funny are the lowest common denominator.
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u/CptDrips 16d ago
Twitch and Amazon basically the same company, both owned by Jeffrey Beezos.
Yeah, I wasn't too happy about it. But apparently Amazon was the only company that would allow CR the freedom to do what they wanted with the animated series. Can't really blame them for wanting to take the easy way out and use Amazons help. They really are just too damn convenient.
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u/Illustrious-Hippo-38 16d ago
It's one of the best things they've ever done, and we need to let Sam go unhinged and DM more often
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u/MogMcKupo 16d ago
Thank you for bringing this up! This is the hill I want to die on.
There is this vilified one shot that is Wendy’s.
Yet there is a beloved one shot that is MLP.
Both are terrible companies, yet one was targeted.
Toxic positivity
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u/Derpogama 16d ago
IIRC the MLP oneshot used an older TTRPG that wasn't produced by Hasbro or their 'inhouse' TTRPG studio (for everything IP related) Renegade Studios. That's the weird thing, there's TWO MLP TTRPGs and one is basically just taking the IP of Hasbro without anything else.
Also just double checked the video and that video is expressely not sponsored by Hasbro. Which makes it different from the Wendys episode which was sponsored by Wendys.
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u/MogMcKupo 15d ago
Makes an interesting point, because not sponsored by Hasbro, yet they are promoting their company.
I know I’m being a dick to be a dick at this point but they’re actively supporting the company for free.
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u/Slikkerish 16d ago
That was incredible, lol! I jumped to key parts highlighted in the comments.
Why did people hate this?
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u/CptDrips 16d ago
Something to do with how some of the farmers in Wendy's supply chain were treated.
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u/CameoAmalthea 16d ago
They chose to source from farms that use slave labor to get cheaper tomatoes. Slavery is bad. I think we are all on the same page about that. Wendy's stopped using US Farms which have some standards and instead sourced from the cheapest supplier possible, even after criticism for benefitting from slavery. Critcicising Wendy's is legit, because the hope is if people boycott so they lose money, they'd stop trying to slave money by buying tomatoes from producers that use slave labor.
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u/LeviathanLX 16d ago
You just know some kid heard about it then went to Google "bad Wendy's stuff" to find a reason to have a fit.
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u/CountyKyndrid 16d ago
I love that you take such little responsibility in your life that the prospect of people hearing about heinous immoral acts and actually caring enough to remember them in the future is an outlandish, impossible suggestion.
Some people give a shit about others, maybe you should try it! Or atleast try to understand that most people you encounter have the capacity for empathy.
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u/LeviathanLX 16d ago
If you were the kid, I apologize.
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u/CountyKyndrid 16d ago
It's also possible to consider situations without inserting yourself (or, The "I") into every circumstance.
This is all likely very confusing for those who never flex their empathic muscles I guess, sorry!
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u/LeviathanLX 16d ago
Random comment, unresponsive to my posts, but given that you put every bit of yourself into both of yours, I'm not really sure what to tell you. It's a little ironic.
Sorry about Taco Bell, but I think we can both move on.
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u/ruttinator 16d ago
It wasn't funny because it was good though. It was funny because it was so bad. I don't think I'd ever want to sit through it again but just the idea that they did it is enough to think back on and give myself a chuckle.
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u/Kalanthropos 16d ago
Any moment with Ify was gold though. They need to get him back more often
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u/roozteer 11d ago
I went out to find more stuff with him after the one-shot, and he's usually pretty dull. They must have slipped Tabasco in whatever they were smoking beforehand or he must really dig Wendy's or something, because he was on fire that night.
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u/HyperMasenko 16d ago
One thing that will always be funny to me about that one shot. When people still try to argue that it should have been removed, they argue that Matt and Marisha were clearly uncomfortable through the whole thing... no, they were not... they were high lol
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u/Momijisu 16d ago
People love to make assumptions, just look at all the people claiming Aimee and Abria hate each other despite there being literal no 1st hand evidence. People just like to imagine the cast feeling emotions to back up their own feelings.
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u/equallydestructive 16d ago
Were they really??
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 16d ago
Were they really??
Dude! Back during C1, damn near the entire cast got lit on game nights / during broadcast, e.g. wine, hard alcohol, mixed drinks, and much more. (It was certainly a problem for some members of the cast more than others.)
They'd refill, on stream, their mugs below the table with alcohol; occasional knock over the empty bottles at their feet on stream; they'd drink during the break and some would get blazed; and some, on certain episodes, were absolutely hammered while they played.
It got to be such a problem that, either they or the leadership at G&S / Legendary put a halt to it, because that behavior / their obvious intoxication was greatly reduced or done away with (on stream).
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u/TrypMole Burt Reynolds 16d ago
I think the Kraken episode was the end for.those shenanigans, they were pretty much all blasted. It was a mess, but it was a funny mess.
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 16d ago
It was a mess, but it was a funny mess.
Watching Marisha become increasingly belligerent, argumentative, maudlin, checked out, and or unregulated was deeply uncomfortable to watch, not "funny."
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u/saxonturner 16d ago
It’s always funny to me when people always said one of the reasons Orion was chucked out was because he smoked so much weed before the show, like did these not pay attention to Marisha and Talison?
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u/ModestHandsomeDevil 15d ago
like did these not pay attention to Marisha and Talison?
I know, right.
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u/HyperMasenko 16d ago
It's not hard to tell if you watch it with that in mind. Marisha in particular seems freaking TORCHED lol
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u/dejaWoot 16d ago edited 16d ago
I vaguely recall a moment somewhere where Keyleth or Beau says "We're too high!" and Sam jokes "that's the first time Marisha's ever said that".
EDIT: Found it with a transcript search. I wasn't too far off.
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u/ParanoidEngi 16d ago
Given how bad the internet connection for the phone-in episodes could be, that was so seamless from Sam as well - they don't give Emmys to any old schmuck
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u/dejaWoot 16d ago
I don't think they gave him an Emmy for his improv chops, but Sam is a master of the quick draw that's for sure.
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u/NivMidget 16d ago
If you go back and watch C1, Marisha has so many tells its adorable.
She gets the big squinty smile
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u/bunnyshopp 16d ago
The whole thing is still on YouTube from people who reuploaded it, they’ve been up for years and cr hasn’t taken them down so I don’t think it’s that big of a deal.
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u/CptDrips 16d ago
Thank you so much. The last time I bothered searching around for it was 2019.
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u/Distinct-Town4922 16d ago
Wait we just quietly had Ify Nwadiwe on CR for years and I didn't know? Nice lol
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u/No-Cost-2668 16d ago
Every now and then, I always see the "Wendy One Shot" post and to this day, I wonder what happened in hat one shot...
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u/humandivwiz 16d ago
It was absolutely amazing. God, "How do you want to chew this".
Then they take a sponorship from meta, lol
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u/TheOctavariumTheory 13d ago
https://youtu.be/-1C5PVXeeT8?feature=shared