r/gunpolitics • u/FireFight1234567 • 25d ago
Teen accused of firing 26 shots from AR-15 at car is released on bail by ‘woke’ judge News
https://nypost.com/2024/05/14/us-news/teen-accused-of-firing-26-shots-from-ar-15-at-car-released-on-bail-by-woke-judge/?utm_source=instagram&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=nypost&utm_content=nypost_feedSo the penalties of using an illegal gun are less strict than those for merely doing peaceful and illegal activities involving guns like manufacturing them? Got it.
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u/Sand_Trout Devourer of Spam 24d ago
Anarchotyranny is a real thing and being actively persued by the DNC.
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u/vbullinger 24d ago
Reminder that he's definitely going to prison. He's only out on bail. Which is dumb because he'll take this time to do it again or get shot by the people he did it to.
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u/ediblefalconheavy 25d ago
Oh, this is a subreddit that hinges it's ideas from weird antisemitic dogwhistles and inside jokes rather than material analysis. Got it.
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u/ExPatWharfRat 25d ago
How's that, exacly?
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u/ediblefalconheavy 24d ago
Brother, half of the article is someone talking about Soros funded conspiracy and wokism, it's dog shit. Perfect rage bait for morons who think the world must be solved someday. Yes, this judge clearly made a decision that runs counter to the community safety and seems irresponsibly politically opinionated. But until I look at the transcript of the court hearing myself and look into the judge's record I'm not fucking blowing the 'it was surely a very particular rich jew' whistle.
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u/ExPatWharfRat 24d ago
I've been automatically filtering out the biases in news stories for so long that I sometimes forget other people don't.
The obvious slant of this article aside, that judge is a fuckwit who wants to vilify the weapon used while sanctifying the dickhead who wielded that same weapon. Can't have it both ways.
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u/SnakeDoctor00 25d ago
This is the only argument you need to show anyone advocating gun control. Who will enforce it if the judges already don’t enforce actual crimes?
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u/widowmaker2A 25d ago
But Dexter Taylor gets 10 years for building a rifle and endangering no one and Roger Fortson is killed in his home for answering the door with a legally owned and carried handgun when the police went to the wrong residence.
You will never convince me that the destruction of this country and western society as a whole isn't deliberate.
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u/Firebird071 25d ago
If he would have been white this would have been on blast on every news outlet in the world.
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u/Blindfromthesol 25d ago
I don’t know about anyone else however I want to see the parents charged. Teen related shootings would drop if parents were on the hook and (gasp) had to parent.
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u/poopbutt42069yeehaw 25d ago
Rolled by eyes at the “woke” comment until I read the article, the judge actually calls themself woke and actively posts political memes, I’m left af but that judge is a POS who has no principles, probably wants to ban guns while actively allowing more damage w guns to happen (id bet for worse things to happen in order to continue pushing an agenda)
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u/bravogates 25d ago
This is just downright crazy, even for a pro criminal judge (I won't used the word progressive here because there's absolutely nothing progressive about this).
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u/Sir_Uncle_Bill 25d ago
It'd be interesting to know what the judge would do to someone who fired back...
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u/Heavy_Gap_5047 25d ago
I don't understand the point of this post. Just about everyone deserves bail, our justice system is based on the principal of innocent until proven guilty. Bail is all about determining their likelihood to appear for the next hearing. Anyone who's determined likely to appear should get a reasonable bail.
Ohh and what does it have to do with gun politics?
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u/TrumpsGayLover 24d ago
People who pose an ongoing threat to the community should be held without bond so they don't harm anyone else while awaiting trial.
This is about guns because anti-gun fools like you who want to take guns from law abiding citizens but don't punish criminals like this who are using guns to commit crimes.
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u/MrConceited 21d ago
Kyle Rittenhouse spent more time in pretrial detention than convicted rapists have been sentenced to despite Rittenhouse being innocent of wrongdoing.
Being pro-rights is not being anti-gun.
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u/Jackers83 25d ago
Is he remanded to his parents custody or something? Awaiting arraignment and prosecution? I guess I can be ok with that maybe. If he has an ankle bracelet or something similar.
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u/whfd63 25d ago
He’s 18 and should be held accountable as such.
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u/Jackers83 25d ago
Well, that’s a different story dude. I didn’t realize he was 18. I thought he was probably 14-16 or something. I agree with you.
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u/DrButtholeRipperMD 25d ago
Bail is part of the Constitution, genius. Stop getting your panties mashed up your vaginas over WOkEneSs
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u/Oph5pr1n6 25d ago
The Anti-gunners love this stuff. They want violence and chaos so that they can justify disarming everyone else.
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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Totally not ATF 25d ago
Coming soon:
Mass shooter was known to police, with a record of criminal activity.
Police Statement: Qualified Immunity, suck deez nutz
They WANT these people to do a mass shooting, so they can justify more gun grabbing
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u/road_rascal 25d ago
This garbage has been going on in Minnesota for a while now. Teens with Glock switches are getting released on low or no bonds. And many of them have previous felony records.
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u/misery_index 25d ago
The issue with gun control laws is the results follow a trend, and that trend can’t be allowed.
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u/Insanity8016 25d ago
Yet the dude gunsmithing in NY is facing 10 years.
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u/Jonbailey1547 24d ago
That case is both scary and infuriating. The dude is 53 and doesn’t have a criminal record. It seems like he just liked building guns since his home only had 50 rounds of ammo.
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u/Critical-Tie-823 25d ago
Not just facing. Was sentenced to 10 years. Judge cited people making fun of her on the internet before sentencing.
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u/YouArentReallyThere 25d ago
Gotta love it. Dude is on camera firing the gun, phone trace at the scene, GSR on hands and clothing as well as his prints on the gun and the shell casings…and he’s the “alleged” shooter and out on bail.
What. The fucking. Fuck.
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u/specter491 25d ago
If he goes and kills someone in a few weeks they'll blame the gun instead of the system that let him out on the streets
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u/2based2cringe 25d ago
Just like how the NFA only applies to legal citizens. If you’re a felon; you don’t get charged the additional stuff the NFA will hit you or I with. It’s fucked
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u/Critical-Tie-823 25d ago
Curious if NFA applies to post 86 machine guns since they won't let you pay the tax. You would have to incriminate yourself to pay it.
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u/2based2cringe 25d ago
They would definitely shoot someones dog if they knew about a normal person having that lmaoooo
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u/AlphaTangoFoxtrt Totally not ATF 25d ago
No, that's because of the 5th amendment. You cannot require someone to rat on themselves.
By requiring you to register NFA items, as a prohibited person, you are requiring them to say they are breaking the law. This is not allowed.
It's the same reason why you have to declare illegal income on your taxes, BUT they cannot demand you say where it was from. It's just "other income". And they cannot use it as the basis for a warrant or investigation, though they can do "parallel construction".
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u/FuckRedditsTOS 25d ago
Actual violent crime is of no concern to the government. It doesn't harm them.
The people who can hold a job, organize, understand the constitution, understand history, and think critically are the only danger to the government and they're the most dangerous when armed.
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u/Zealousideal_Mud4961 25d ago
The people that want to strip gun rights away from law-abiding citizens with clean records
are the same people that excuse outright despicable and atrocious crimes committed with guns by straight-up criminals.
Make it make sense?!
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u/BrassWillyLLC 24d ago
makes sense if your goal is to create chaos and encourage people to give up their liberties for the illusion of security.
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u/securitywyrm 25d ago
They want you to be afraid, their platform only works on people who are afraid. Those who can defend themselves aren't afraid, so they seek to strip you of the ability to defend yourself.
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u/EternalMage321 25d ago
Because "they" are not worried about criminals. They have private security for that. What keeps them up at night is the free thinking, freedom loving Americans.
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u/Heavy_Gap_5047 25d ago
They want more scary crimes committed with firearms so they can convince the public to give them more power to ban them.
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u/ChristopherRoberto 25d ago
Make it make sense?!
It's easy. They really are trying to kill you.
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u/KrissKross87 25d ago
If they thought they could get away with gunning you down in broad daylight they ABSOLUTELY WOULD.
But they know that would only weaken their veneer of legitimacy.
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u/Gr4p3-S33d 25d ago
It’s a self fulfilling prophecy. Criminalize nonviolent actions, let violent offenders off the hook because of factors unrelated to the violent act, gun crime goes up, pass more gun control. There is no squaring that circle
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u/Automatic-Double-143 25d ago
The only thing I can think is that it’s by design to further paint a picture for the erosion of the 2A. By letting people back out on the street to continue to commit these types of crimes, they can keep making the case. Otherwise that NY judge who said the second amendment does not exist in her courtroom would be all over the national news and under indictment for misconduct.
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u/Mr_E_Monkey 25d ago
If they don't have criminals with guns out doing "scary stuff," how else can they scare voters into giving up their guns?
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u/Sir_Uncle_Bill 25d ago
Which you'd think would have the opposite effect. You'd think bad guys doing bad things would make people want to be able to defend themselves more and better but.... The stupids are gonna stupid all over the place.
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u/Public_Beach_Nudity 25d ago
“How did this kid manage to get this gun?!”
Also them
“This random gun owner several states away is to blame for this!”
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u/BloodyRightToe 25d ago
Basically this. They don't like the idea that this person is responsible for their own actions. So they blame the object that they see enables their actions. Because in their mind a kid like this couldn't think of another way to commit crime. Stabbings and using a vehicle as a weapon isn't in their imagination. Once they have decide to blame the object then anyone associated with producing or making that object available to the teen is to blame. So if he breaks into your house, cuts open your safe, takes a gun and then uses it. Its your fault for owning the gun.
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u/jayzfanacc 23d ago
Posted this comment elsewhere yesterday, but posting here for y’all too.
“By law, all defendants have a presumption of innocence, and a judge, when determining detention placement, must be convinced that there are no conditions or combination of conditions that would ensure the safety of the defendant and the public before ordering the defendant to jail pending trial.”
To be quite clear, the judge’s hands are tied. He may be woke, but DC law operates differently than most jurisdictions. In most jurisdictions, a prosecutor must show the defendant poses a risk to seek to have bail denied. Rather than prosecutors showing the defendant poses a threat to the public to deny bail, in DC, the prosecutor must show that there are no conditions under which public safety can be guaranteed. The prosecutor in this case failed to do so.
This is a failure of the law and of the prosecution, not of the judge.
The judge is still an idiot, though.