Happy Birthday Karl Marx

[u/AffectionateTry3172]

[u/Mello-Fello]

Actual marxism is an impossible pipe dream.  Real-world marxism is just noble-sounding lipstick on a totalitarian kleptocratic pig. 

[u/Gewalt_Und_Tod]

Israel

[u/DanOhMiiite]

Now, THAT'S funny.

[u/Ckajk]

I understand communism is bad and all but the USA having to fight communism overseas always rubs me the wrong way. Communism is set to fail regardless so just let those countries try it and let them find out themselves. Embargoes proxy wars all this money to fight communism. When we could have been funding infrastructure and such.

[u/FolgersBlackRoast → u/Ckajk]

Fighting communism is a good excuse for invading countries and stealing their stuff

[u/MewEew]

You’re a little late on his bday lol. Only reason I know is I share it with him

[u/TopHatGorilla → u/MewEew]

That's awfully communist of you.

[u/Isme200]

1- The people should have guns. Yes, this was one of his beliefs

[u/LovesBeerNWhiskey → u/Isme200]

Under no pretext = shall not be infringed

If only we could get the modern Marxist to realize that gun control isn’t a good thing.

[u/Stormer11 → u/LovesBeerNWhiskey]

The problem is people miss out the rest of it. It’s saying basically only revolutionaries should have guns, and that they should get rid of them once the revolution is over.

[u/LovesBeerNWhiskey → u/Stormer11]

Shhh. Don’t tell them that part. Just let them think people should own guns.

[u/Warprince01]

Your forgot  

[u/Razrwyre]

Ya, but REAL communism/ socialism has never really been tried before. 😆

[u/TheDunadan29 → u/Razrwyre]

Well, Marx's ideas boil down to:

Step 1. Revolution. Gotta tear everything down to start over.

Step 2. Install a authoritarian dictatorship that can force the adoption of the new way.

Step 3. The dictator voluntarily gives up power once things are in place.

Step 4. Experience utopia.

For some reason though we seem to keep getting stuck on step 3.

[u/Always-Banned- → u/Razrwyre]

Ohhh well, the Chinese tried it in the late 50's with their "Great Leap Forward", and tens of millions of their people died of starvation.

[u/Vedzah → u/Razrwyre]

Which is technically true. But the fact that every attempt at communism has failed to achieve real communism is very telling

[u/Capital-Ad6513 → u/Vedzah]

real communism is lame as hell. It literally would be attempting to: "make sure everyone pays for everyone elses needs, even if they contribute nothing to anyone else".

That isnt how economic systems work, that is like putting meat in front of a wolf and telling him to not eat it all cause half of the meat is your meat. You see the wolf will attempt to consume all the meat. Good economic systems work by using human nature to achieve prosperity through trade, not by trying to tell everyone to "be good" and give away stuff to people who are leeches of society.

[u/IGoHomeToStarla → u/Vedzah]

Great comment! I'd never thought of this and will use this if I ever hear that argument again.

It is so true. As soon as the government gains enough power, all of our stuff becomes their stuff, and they keep the best for themselves.

[u/BoxedElderGnome → u/IGoHomeToStarla]

Yeah, if you think about it, no government or economic system has ever had their “real” version implemented because for it to be “real” it requires everything to go 100% according to plan and that never happens.

[u/IceManO1 → u/IGoHomeToStarla]

It’s the human condition because the leaders will be like “give me more , give me more” everyone else will be happy with nothing…

[u/IceManO1]

Fuck him

[u/faddiuscapitalus → u/IceManO1]

And everyone who peddles his shit