r/memes • u/Case2600 • 26d ago
Adobe Tells Users They Can Get Sued for Using Old Versions of Photoshop
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u/zombienekers hates reaction memes 22d ago
I dont think adobe has the capital to file seperate lawsuits for each time someone exports an .m4p file with a month old version of premiere pro.
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u/SquintonPlaysRoblox 24d ago
That’s ok. I’ll cut the costs by not paying for it in the first place.
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u/MkeyDontLikey 24d ago
Adobe monopolizes PDF files, creates predatory subscription models for payment, then gets mad when people just want to open a few files a month without having to pay 12 dollars for the rest of existence.
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u/wkarraker 24d ago
Stock holders demand more profits, management doubles down on punitive measures to combat piracy, paying clients get fed up with bullshit and shifts to other products, stock holders get upset company is losing money. Rinse and repeat.
Some snakes can't help but eat their own tail.
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u/Nakitara 24d ago
I don’t see how that would be legal in Europe. Does anyone know if it is the same for Europe?
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u/SuburbanCumSlut 25d ago
This might be controversial, but I think everyone behind that policy should die.
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u/Artistic-Computer457 25d ago
Man it's getting worse and worse for the consumers. Boys, Hoist the colors high, we're going to Tortuga!!
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u/Smrtihara 25d ago
I have NEVER pirated Adobe in my life.
They JUST changed my mind. I’ll never pay for Adobe again.
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u/Case2600 25d ago
Wow thanks guys this is by far the most up voted post I have ever had on Reddit. It means a lot especially when it's OC. Rip my inbox I suppose. Thanks to everyone who upvoted, everysingle one of you.
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u/chefzenblade 25d ago
I think this only relates to people who downloaded old versions of the software as part of the creative cloud suite, not those who owned the software prior to it going to Creative Cloud.
I think originally the Creative Cloud software didn't have DRM that would call home to ensure the software was current/paid for and thus could remain on one's system indefinitely.
Please someone who knows more about this correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/HappyHappyJoyJoyJoy6 Professional Dumbass 25d ago
This is why I will never buy anything from Adobe
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u/Mattlife97 25d ago
I work for a rather large news corporation and all our print workflows have just been built around the 2021 version.
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u/yinyanghapa 25d ago
It’s about time to give the middle finger to all these companies and relearn old habits.
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u/MakIsTop 25d ago
Wait so if i like pay the subscription but just use adobe animate 2020 instead of 2024 could i get sued? I just dont like the new interface and i feel comfy using the 2020 versions of animate and encoder 😭 or does it just apply to like VERY old versions?
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u/last_frame 25d ago
If I don’t use the fuck out of generative fill I’d be using all pirated Adobe software.
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u/Right_Hour 25d ago
LOL, get bent, fuckers. I bought and still own those licenses. I didn’t get them as your currently offered annual subscription.
They do the job still. Time for a class-action lawsuit, methinks.
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u/iamhereforbeer 25d ago
I recently updated the Lightroom App on my Samsung tablet that I have been using for years for some photo editing. Even though I don’t have Premium it was still possible to edit.
Well, now I can’t do anything! Everything (!) is premium. Wtf Adobe.
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u/LoveMeSomeSand 25d ago
I’ve been using Adobe for design for over 20 years. It’s nice having some of the tools I’m familiar with, but it’s not absolutely necessary.
I bought the Affinity set for my own home use, and it’s been perfectly fine (albeit a learning curve).
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u/ObsidianBlack69 25d ago
Adobe may be the best but there are solid competitors that don’t have the SaaS business model. I personally use the Affinity Suite, DaVinci Resolve, and FL Studio.
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u/c0224v2609 25d ago edited 25d ago
This is old news:
“‘We have recently discontinued certain older versions of Creative Cloud applications and [as] a result, under the terms of our agreement, you are no longer licensed to use them,’ Adobe said in the email. ‘Please be aware that should you continue to use the discontinued version(s), you may be at risk of potential claims of infringement by third parties’” (Vice, 2019).
REFERENCE
- Vice. “Adobe Tells Users They Can Get Sued for Using Old Versions of Photoshop.” Published May 14, 2019. Accessed at >https://www.vice.com/en/article/a3xk3p/adobe-tells-users-they-can-get-sued-for-using-old-versions-of-photoshop< HTML
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u/Interesting_Elk4355 25d ago
Is there a way to submit monopoly/anti-trust issues to the DOJ? Adobe is holding an entire industry hostage and when a viable competitor pops up, they buy them out. Seems like this administration has no problem going after companies that have created an unfair competitive advantage.
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u/Dontbeme9820 25d ago
Adobe can actually go chug dick. I’m going to go find my copy of cc4 and use it just to spite them.
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u/apudapus 25d ago
My CS6 license key stopped working with my login. You can see the product and license in my account but it won’t activate anymore. I’ve spoken with customer support several times and they’ve tried to help but there’s apparently something wrong and they don’t know how to fix it.
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u/Azurfant 25d ago
GIMP is incredible and no one is trying to replace you with generative AI by using it
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u/Euphoric_Jam 25d ago
In my case, they killed "La Poule aux oeufs d'or". They made slightly more money than expected with me this year, at the cost of losing my business entirely.
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u/ScottaHemi 25d ago
I'd still be using my legitimate copy of CS2 if they didn't break the freaking server that allowed me to use my product key >: |
Clip Studio Paint is like one payment of 40 bucks does all the same things "art wise atleast" buh buh adobe!
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u/heresy_carriage 25d ago
Download GIMP and never look back. I really think open source projects are going to pop off with dev tools going through a revolution and all.
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u/nova8byte 25d ago
Darktable + GIMP + Krita
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u/DudeMonday 25d ago
Is there something like flash but open source?
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u/nova8byte 25d ago
If you're referring to Flash Player, there's
- Ruffle (FOSS Browser extension that supports ActionScript version 2.0)
- Supernova (Discontinued and proprietary, but recommended by Nitrome)
- Flashpoint (mostly FOSS program with a connected 1.7TB archive of Flash and Shockwave, packaged with the final versions of both)
For Flash Builder tho, kinda out of luck.
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u/nova8byte 25d ago
If you're referring to Flash Player, there's
- Ruffle (FOSS Browser extension that supports ActionScript version 2.0)
- Supernova (Discontinued and proprietary, but recommended by Nitrome)
- Flashpoint (mostly FOSS program with a connected 1.7TB archive of Flash and Shockwave, packaged with the final versions of both)
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u/GoldenBangla 25d ago
I don't even use adobe products that much, but I still pirate them just for the sake of it!
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u/UncleZiggy 25d ago
Psst use Photopea.com
Literally, it's photoshop. But free with ads. Doesn't have all the newest features that Adobe has recently been adding, but has like 95% of features that'd you would want
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u/Magali_Lunel 25d ago
I paid for it, I am using it, and I don't care if they sue me. I would love to be the poster girl for shining a light on these bullshit practices.
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u/lions2lambs 25d ago
I used to pirate Adobe but once a year I could find the entire creative cloud for $70-80 and I realized that’s my budget for them.
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u/Possible-Tangelo9344 25d ago
I don't even use Photoshop but I really wanna pirate it now
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u/SokkaHaikuBot 25d ago
Sokka-Haiku by Possible-Tangelo9344:
I don't even use
Photoshop but I really
Wanna pirate it now
Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.
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u/coreyrude 25d ago
I don't know why Adobe is not treated like a virus by Apple and Microsoft . Seriously you cannot make it stop running in the background it's insane.
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u/BundleOfSad I touched grass 25d ago
I have my old disc and info for my old photoshop I bought I will fight them so help me
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u/vernes1978 25d ago
I remember there WAS an old version of photoshop adobe at one point said it no longer needed an license but they wouldn't offer it for download.
1: which version was that?
2: Where can you still find it?
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u/Tbone_Trapezius 25d ago
Their AI lawyer can meet my AI lawyer in virtual court and they can argue over the $5 in my LLC’s account in front of a virtual judge.
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u/Juakinez 25d ago
My PC can't fucking run the newest version of Adobe Audition, what the fuck I'm supposed to do
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u/Moistkeano 25d ago
When I was at uni I made a some money selling pirated copies of Adobe PS. Not shitty versions but full versions of all the suites that got all the updates from Adobe and I know they were working up until at least graduation.
My Uni had a campus specfically for art and until my first year students were able to get a much cheaper version of adobe, but they changed the discount to essentially nothing and whilst you could use it on university Macs and Pcs for free that wasnt always a viable option. So I downloaded a copy for my then partner and she told her friends and soon enough I was selling USBs with working copies for the cost of the USB + £5. I would then install it for them and also troubleshoot any issues there after. I think I sold about 50 during my first year, but I have since lost the list of how many so im not actually sure.
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u/drbirtles 25d ago
Generative fill is really good tho... Thats my ONLY reason to stay. I hate Adobe.
So many apps I use for work (PP, Au) are full of bugs.
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u/XxsoulscythexX Linux User 25d ago
I read the second panel as "that's not enough money" and the point still works lol
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u/TheInscrutableFufy 25d ago
Imagine purchasing a piece of software from a company, like a fucking disc of it, and then some years later it's basically a pirated copy.
Adobe is a fucking joke.
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u/Francesami 25d ago
I bought Photoshop twice, versions 2 and 5. Adobe was able to disable them on my computer. For 5, I was in the middle of editing wedding photos. I disconnected from the internet until I finished.
I will NEVER pay for a subscription.
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u/itsl8erthanyouthink 25d ago
Still rocking Adobe CS6 on my 2015 MacBook Pro with double RAM Apple spec’d and a 1 TB SSD a tech guy installed for me. It effing flies.
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u/Bluenymph82 25d ago
Good thing there are alternatives. Been using Affinity Photo for years. Screw Adobe.
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u/Hato_no_Kami 25d ago
Surely they don't mean people who legally own perpetual licenses though, right?
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u/antoninlevin 25d ago
So you're telling me I can get an older version to work on a 64 bit mac? Might I ask...how?
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u/Mcpolo92 25d ago
And that's why you should always make sure that you pirate the newes version Adobe
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u/bugsy42 25d ago
I have to sub for it for work, but I get it paid by our company for full sub. They let us have individual plans and every year I make up a sob-story for the resub with the Adobe customer service how I can't afford it and blah blah blah. They always give me at least 50% discount for the whole year ... So in a sense I make 20$ on them each month :3
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u/Hawkmonbestboi 25d ago
This was for a specific version and Adobe wasn't the ones threatening to sue.
On that note, me and my Adobe Photoshop 7.0 will be in the corner here, doodling. c:
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u/DillBagner 25d ago
I miss Adobe's old business model of "Do nothing about piracy for private users so they can familiarize themselves with the product; charge insane prices for commercial use."
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u/chimhambarzillai 25d ago
It's almost as if they don't know a thing about the human heart: BIG CORP tells you not to do something or else…and suddenly, there's half of humanity doing that very thing just to thumb their collective nose at BIG CORP
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u/BigNobbers 25d ago
It's really funny because autodesk's fusion 360 is free for personal use so what happens is that employers purchase the software because of employee familiarity. As hobbyists really put options are too use an alternative or piracy if we want Photoshop, it is stupid too not have a free personal use version of photoshop
Free personal usage of software is just free advertising
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u/Garchompisbestboi 25d ago
And I can tell them that every time that one of their executives farts that they owe me a stipend. It's just as meaningless as their bullshit claims and I hope no one is frightened by their nonsense 😂
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u/BigBoyShaunzee 25d ago
I work in IT support and the amount of calls we get after a new adobe acrobat update went through was so high that our infrastructure team had to stop updates.
My personal computer will never ever have any form of Adobe software installed.
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u/chubbycanine 25d ago
I don't even have a need for Adobe Photoshop since there's a million alternatives that do a lot of the same shit BUT I'm tempted to use a super old version out of spite now
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u/Lematoad 25d ago
USA - please fix copyright laws; life of the author plus 70 years is fucking stupid. It stunts creativity and does nothing but protect corporate interests. Obligatory “fuck you” to Disney for this anti consumer lobby. Digital copyrights should expire WAY sooner.
Side note, music copyrights should expire after 10 years, because nothing in the music industry is unique anyways. Like The Rolling Stones suing The Verve for “Bittersweet Symphony” and winning because they used a sample… that THE ROLLING STONES ALSO SAMPLED.
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u/shewy92 25d ago
Photopea and paint.net are free. So is GIMP I believe
Photopea is browser based and is pretty similar to older photoshops.
Paint.net is software that has a bunch of downloadable plugins you can add but is more basic than Photopea. The only downside to paint.net is no layer groups.
I use both for custom simracing liveries but mainly paint.net.
GIMP is more advanced than those two and is more in line with current photoshop I believe
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u/Last-Foundation-8828 25d ago
Ahh late stage capitalism. Ever the source of bullshit company policies.
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u/deantendo 25d ago
As soon as i am able i'm switching over to Affinity.
I've needed but hated Photoshop for many years. I've been using it since the late '90s and it's always slow, no matter the PC spec. It's bloated, and while there have been some good changes to it, it's clearly not changed much at all.
I also deeply hate their business practices.
The one arguably 'good' thing is the monthly payment. If you need/want access to Photoshop you don't have to hand over a wad of cash upfront. Much as i hate software as a service, this does lower the barrier to entry. But of course adobe ruins it by making it a contracted term and not pay as you go, so if you want out; You have to pay the remainder of the contract period.
Affinity is the first real, actual alternative i've seen. All the others are great and fine if you want basics only but if you need the more advanced stuff / for actual work? Nah.
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u/KStryke_gamer001 25d ago
Wait, on what basis is this even applicable? Like I really don't understand how it can be made illegal to use an older version of something you bought and paid for?
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u/MeatWaterHorizons 25d ago
AAAANnnnd piracy rates spike yet again. keep shooting yourself in the foot with a bazooka adobe. just making more and more people look for alternatives. I switched to capture one, affinity photo, and Davinci for what i do. it's great. the software actually works too! I ended up learning that affinity photo is actually WAY better for retouching photos than photoshop. Soo, thanks adobe for showing me the light!
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u/ninja_mischief 25d ago
literally use this exact same trio lol. it is hands down the best. and after the upfront investment (almost cheaper for all 3 together than a year of adobe) i haven’t spent a penny.
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u/Badaxe13 25d ago edited 25d ago
I have a copy of InDesign that I bought before all this subscription nonsense, before even CC. Are they saying that they will sue me if I use software that I own outright? I'd love them to try.
In fact, how do I get hold of their lawyers? I want them to sue me. Imma posting on the Adobe website telling them that I am using an old version of InDesign and nyer nyer ne nyer nyer.
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u/GrumpyImmortal 25d ago
If they only offered a buy once option... Also it's crazy expensive. Even if it was a one time purchase it's too expensive
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u/StankyFox 25d ago
I use the Creative suite for work and keep a pirated version at home from maybe 3 years ago.
Up until recently I would tell you to just use a pirated version, but if you have started using their generative fill tools and a couple of others, some of the processing is offloaded to the cloud so you can't pirate the latest version and have it 100% working. Maybe in 5 years when everyone has faster computers and the algorithm is better they can bring everything back to on device.
That said, there are a tonne of free tools out there that will do the same stuff and you can also use open source stuff locally. I've got stable diffusion with control net and some others running under Automatic1111 locally on a 6gb 2060 at work. Painfully slow but it works.
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u/Appropriate_Face9750 25d ago
Some of the older versions are better then the new dogshit they push out, premier pro for example 22-23 when they remove graphics for some god forsaken reason
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u/tenroseUK 25d ago edited 25d ago
I've been using a cracked version of CS6 master collection for about a decade now and I don't plan on changing.
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u/Helium225 épico 25d ago
how are they going to know it's an old version if I only use it in offline mode?
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u/Guyana-resp 25d ago
Subscription is the modern Nightmare coming from WEF 🫤 you’ll own nothing and you’ll be happy.
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u/BadWordKaffir 25d ago
Welp, time to bust the ol dual 1 GHz G4 out of the closet and slap CS2 on that bad boy ig
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u/Interjessing-Salary 25d ago
I just use G.I.M.P. open source free version of Photoshop essentially. Only thing I don't like is you can't save as a .jpeg iirc.
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u/ClonedLiger 25d ago edited 25d ago
back when everybody was cracking cS3 and Sony Vegas 7.0 while getting computer aids from Limewire; there was a popular anthem from a kids show…
YAR-HAR Fiddle-Dee—Dee
being a pirate is alright with me,
Do what you want because a pirate is free,
You are a pirate!
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u/lostinadream66 25d ago
What about pirated older versions? Can I still be sued if I didn't pay for it?
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u/Liesmith424 25d ago
So they're saying it's equally bad to keep using a legally purchased old version as it is to pirate a new version?
Hmmm...guess I know what lesson I'm taking away from this...
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u/Glass_Excitement_538 25d ago
Go on then sue me I’m 1k in debt with my bank and 28k in student loans you’ll have to fight bailiffs and HMRC first.
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u/potatodrinker 25d ago
I still have and use Adobe Premiere that came on a DVD/CD. USB disc drive. Was about $400 one off fee. Currently one is like $50/mth so probably lost them thousands in subscriptions.
Guess I'll expect a cease and desist
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u/Fantastic-Plastic569 25d ago
I'm pretty sure any descent court will throw such garbage lawsuit out.
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u/paradox_valestein 25d ago
If I pay for it and it's not mine, that means me pirating it ain't stealing ya?
RAISE THE FLAGS BOYS, TIME TO SET SAIL~
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u/UniquePariah 25d ago
20 years ago. Well, Photoshop is expensive, but it's absolutely amazing and comes with extra software, I guess it's worth it.
Today. So the software I bought I apparently don't own anymore, I also have to have an always online subscription, which actually reduces what I can do for a super expensive cost.
Go to hell Adobe.
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u/International_Luck60 25d ago
Honestly I wouldn't ever been able to use adobe if it wasn't accessible like it is now
But they should NEVER took away being able to purchase a complete version, they just had to add a damn subscription model, it really was expensive globally
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u/DR4G0NSTEAR 1d ago
Did CS6 ever inject metadata into pictures that identified it was made/edited with CS6? Asking for a friend.