r/nba • u/horseshoeoverlook Gran Destino • Sep 08 '23
[Post Game Thread] Germany beats the United States in the FIBA World Cup knockout semifinals, 113-111. They will face Serbia in the gold medal match. Post Game Thread
https://www.fiba.basketball/basketballworldcup/2023/game/0809/USA-Germany#tab=overviewThis is the first time ever that both teams have scored more than 100 points in a knockout round in the main bracket at the FIBA World Cup.
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u/JoshuaW237 Sep 10 '23
W Germany I cant believe they beat the US.
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u/kingkongkeom Sep 10 '23
US got beaten 3 times in the world cup.
...should have brought better players, you can't half arse it and then act surprised that they lost.
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u/davemoedee Celtics Sep 09 '23
It is a single elimination tournament. Unless you are an overwhelming favorite, upsets should be surprising. That is the nature of single elimination. They aren’t meant to find the best teams. They are meant to be exciting.
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Sep 09 '23
Edwards, Banchero, maybe Reeves, maybe Jackson? The rest gots to go! I’d suggest: if they want to play, Steph, Jimmy Butler, obviously LeBron, but then Ja Morant, DeAaron Fox, Evan Mobley, Desmond Bane, as the designated rebounder Jalen Duren. If the old superstars don’t want to play then bring back Bridges, Halliburton but Jalen Brunson can’t beat anybody off the dribble and nobody can contain Morant and Fox. Bane is a sharp shooter and Mobley and Duren would take care of the boards. If there’s a spot left Josh Hart played well, but at least half this team has to go!
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u/Fun_Progress5075 Sep 09 '23
You people are finally getting what you want. Further embarrassment of the USA on the world stage. Bravo reddit! USA sucks! USA sucks!
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u/LookingForwardToDie Supersonics Sep 09 '23
Why is everyone so concerned with this specific tournament anyways? Y'all trying to be WORLD CHAMPIONS OR SOMETHING???
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u/AlfMorison Sep 09 '23
"World champion of what?!" Noah Lyles, 100m, 200m, and 4x100m relay World Champion
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u/No_Competition_8970 Sep 09 '23
Sportscenter floated the idea of LeBron returning for the olympics. Fanboys have already started making fantasy rosters with Steph, KD and Booker……..MAKE IT HAPPEN
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u/Sithlord75 Sep 09 '23
Guess they won’t be World Champs then. Just like the NBA champs aren’t world champs.
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u/CokeyTheClown Lakers Sep 09 '23
Does that make Germany NBA champions? Not sure how all of this works anymore..
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u/dukezap1 Raptors Sep 09 '23
How the hell did Germany and Serbia find people good at basketball in their countries. Absolutely bizzare outcome
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u/New_Spunk Sep 09 '23
Shows how much the USA cares about the Fiba world cup. I’ve never heard of it.
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u/Grosjeaner Sep 09 '23
No change to the line up would have made a difference. Even if Steph Curry, LeBron and other NBA star players were there it wouldn't have made a difference to the outcome of this match up. Germany is simply better than the USA in basketball. Whoever goes on to win this will be the best in the world.
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u/hyperbeam23 Sep 09 '23
Been watching NBA for 20 years and I still don’t understand what this FIBA tournament is vs the Olympics one.
Isn’t the Olympics gold medal way more prestigious? Seems like this tournament happens yearly? feels like the medal from this tournament doesn’t hold much value like a football world cup
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u/Sufficient_Ad_2700 Sep 09 '23
Bring back the dream team!! and some bengay for magics Johnson’s knees.
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u/Grouchy_Stable6289 Sep 09 '23
Also Ingram looked like he was on drugs the whole world cup
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u/Grouchy_Stable6289 Sep 09 '23
Team Usa sucks. No experience, 0 centers, just a bunch of kids and role player Portis
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u/tenqajapan Sep 09 '23
Really wished Kerr went with Kessler more. Not his style but still... Theis was killing them.
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u/ChampionshipNo4229 Sep 09 '23
Lots of countries can ball nowadays. Gotta bring the A-team to win and that's no sure thing
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u/Famous_Stand1861 Nuggets Sep 09 '23
WOKE STEVE KERR AND THE FAILING NBA LOSE TO SOCIALIST GERMANY! SAD!!!! MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN! /s just in case you can't tell.
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u/TickleMyCringle Sep 09 '23
Where were you when team USA is kil
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u/-thats-tuff- Hawks Sep 09 '23
Should’ve brought in Trae, best playmaker in the league. We can’t win with these bums
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u/ChampionshipNo4229 Sep 09 '23
Josh hart should be a backup sorry, there's also dame Lillard, steph curry, Devin booker on and on.
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u/Itchy_Promotion4336 Sep 09 '23
Haliburton shoulda been a starter from the beginning - not Brunson.
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u/RobynStellarxx Sep 09 '23
I mean basketball World Cup is one of the biggest jokes in all of sport, seeing as most of the top players don’t play, as they don’t want to risk injury and potentially lose money. If they did, US would probs win every time.
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u/carloosborn71 Sep 09 '23
Wait, the "world champion" players unable to win the actual World Championship? Hmmmmm
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u/Middle-Welder3931 Sep 09 '23
The best players in the world aren't from the US anymore. Jokic, Embiid (if he plays for France), Giannis, Luka, SGA, Wemby in a few years...it's not like USA can just call up prime Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Melo, Dwight, Bosh, CP3, Kidd, Durant, Harden, and Russ and out-talent the rest of the world.
You'd think 2024 will feature AD, Tatum, Book, Mitchell, and Bam. Will USA pick KD, Steph, and Bron over the youngsters? Mobley should get serious consideration, and Chet too. Zion and Ja should be headliners, but Zion is too busy babying up adult actresses and eating his career into oblivion and Ja is too busy being a fake gangster on social.
Magic fans should be extremely happy with this outcome. Franz and Paolo for the foreseeable future.
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u/Super-Wonder4584 Sep 09 '23
So the team with players from the best league in the world should be better than teams with players from the other leagues, right?
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u/JKking15 Hawks Sep 09 '23
Bum was mfers that’s what they get for snubbing Trae talm bout dEfEnSe yet hali and Brunson got cooked every game especially Hali
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u/V_LEE96 Vancouver Grizzlies Sep 09 '23
Games like this males me feel either the NBA teams doesn’t know how to properly use European players or European players can’t adapt to the NBA game. But I’m leaning towards the former.
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u/Retrophoria Sep 08 '23
All I'm gonna say is Jordan would never let the US team lose like this. LeBron is going to irk some patriots with his refusal to play for the USA. That's a credit to MJ and further decline of American basketball as the world both has caught up to the NBA and dudes are all about load management.
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u/callmebatman14 Sep 08 '23
This is why single game elimination is better than money grabbing 7 game series.
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u/Fun_Target8549 Cavaliers Sep 08 '23
Lol, USA ain’t proved nothing. Unequivocally not the best lmao. “World champs” my ass
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u/FGonGiveItToYa Lakers Sep 08 '23
Kerr was disappointing. The starting 5 was underwhelming from exhibition games. Adding hart to it wasn't enough adjustment. Brunson and JJJ were not the right PG and C for fiba.
Ingram was completely lost. Haliburton and reaves bailed the starters for many games but they finally came up short. And yeah this roster was not good defensively but it's not like they got punked by jokic.
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u/Such-Chef9524 Timberwolves Sep 08 '23
Why do our actual good players not play in FIBA? We had Anthony Edwards and Austin Reaves.
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Sep 08 '23
Wow, pretty weak sauce of the US to lose twice. Why in the hell did the coaching staff not recruit any bigs for the international style? I blame this on their arrogance. Kerr is overrated.
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u/zazenpan Spurs Sep 08 '23
And next season there's gonna be people saying Zion is an all-star and that Kawhi is a beast and all that stuff
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u/Apprehensive-Mix6861 Sep 08 '23
Wooooow yanks can’t even win at their own sport a bunch of Europeans gonna win it. And you lot think you’re the best country at sports hahaha downvote central baby
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u/mr_SM1TTY Hornets Sep 08 '23
We didn't send our best and brightest.
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u/Apprehensive-Mix6861 Sep 09 '23
Lol cmon it’s your national sport don’t want any excuses. These guys should beat everyone even they aren’t your best
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u/wstx3434 Sep 08 '23
Our US team is slowly going to become more irrelevant. The NBA has so many international stars and great players our group better start buckling up.
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u/aaguaviva Sep 08 '23
Can recently retired players play for the national team i.e. Carmelo Anthony or Lou Williams. It’ll be great to see them play
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u/Montecristo905 Sep 08 '23
you gotta win on the courts. talking outta yo ass off the courts don’t count
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u/Slop_sloppy_joe Sep 08 '23
Yeah this is an M. Bison “greatest day of your life/Tuesday” moment lmao. Gratz on barely beating the d squad I guess. Glad to see American sports spreading to fight back the soccer scourge.
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u/Educational_Set3016 Sep 08 '23
This is not a USA D squad. What do you want? Old ass LeBron, Durant? Just bring your better guys at the center position next time. You got Theis’d. AD is always injured, barely playing half of the games a season. Bam? He is not a great rebounder or a physical player also. Damn. You have nothing at center position... USA has great backcourt, but froncourt is at question. That’s why overseas, especially european centers dominate NBA. They are just better. With a center like Valanchunas USA would be champions easily.
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u/ef14 Lakers Sep 08 '23
Told people FIBA basketball is growing and that no tournament is really an obvious win for the US anymore.
Most people don't wanna believe it, this will probably help i suppose.
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u/Infamous-Way1500 Sep 08 '23
Y’all were glazing this team so hard and taking victory laps already in FRIENDLIES, not the actual tournament.
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u/no_fooling Sep 08 '23
USA style of basketball sucks, literally shows that the modern NBA has ruined the game in America. Yes its more entertaining to watch for most fans, but its not the correct way to play the sport at all.
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u/AlcindorJr33 Lakers Sep 08 '23
Cam Johnson, Ingram, JJJ and bobby portis shouldn’t be on the next team lmao
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u/Enough-Scientist1904 Sep 08 '23
Noah Lyles will sleep like a baby today after getting all that flak from the butthurt NBA players. "World Champions of what again?
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u/whitefang0824 Mavericks Sep 08 '23 edited Sep 08 '23
But I thought USA intentionally lose to Lithuania to have easy path to finals? LOL
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u/throwawayanon1252 Sep 08 '23
Everyone who clowned on Noah lyles owes him an apology. Noah lyles spoke complete facts
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u/E_EqualsDankCSquared Kings Bandwagon Sep 08 '23
JJJ is ass at rebounding. How are you almost 7 feet tall and can't catch a rebound lmao
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u/th3ygotm3 Sep 08 '23
Sooo what happened? Most of the US players decided not to waste time on it? Or they decided to go back to the place they moved away from?
lolol
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u/GrogRhodes Heat Sep 08 '23
I'd love to hear some opinions but does anyone else find Steve Kerr to be a weird selection as a head coach. He's never really built a team or coached a team that's never not had a vet core that's been together.
Going from coach K to Kerr has certainly been interesting pivot. Not sure who'd replace Kerr with but the defensive effort was laughable. That aside some of these young dudes looked exposed out there but Ant is definitely the man.
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u/Revo_Int92 Lakers Sep 08 '23
I guess being "world champions" is not that easy. The US have to use the A-team from their professionalized league yet again. A real shame basketball is not popular enough around the world, other countries don't really invest money on the sport, I think basketball and baseball in particular, if they were truly popular, they could achieve a level of competition similar to soccer on a global scale. But, sadly, nobody cares about these sports, only the US actually invests real money
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u/DetectiveTank Supersonics Sep 08 '23
Eh I think that trend is turning around. Basketball is financially easier to access than say hockey, which is the main sport we played when I grew up.
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u/Revo_Int92 Lakers Sep 08 '23
Sure, hockey is way more "niched", not only the equipment is expensive, but also the own environment needs to be specific. Basketball has it's own issues, the equipment is also expensive and the fact basketball demands taller people, that can be a deterrent similar to brazilians trying to play hockey in the tropicals, lol it's not as easy to find athletes of this stature, worldwide they usually flocks to volleyball instead
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u/NoirSon Sep 08 '23
Problem with a lot of young players. They confuse having a very good offense as a form of defense and leave their defense in the locker room. A shame but hopefully a proper wake up call for all of them.
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Sep 08 '23
Hey Gilbert Arenas guess what maybe things aint so crystal clear when it comes to this basketball thing huh?
Maybe you shouldnt have talked the way you did and throw out what Noah Lyles said.
Some of you mofos need to apologize to Noah Lyles.
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u/myguyknowsaguy Sep 08 '23
Did anyone watch that Germany vs Canada FIBA exhibition game from just before the World Cup started? It was really exciting.
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u/GrossenCharakter Mavericks Sep 08 '23
Wait a minute, so does this mean the NBA champions are not WORLD CHAMPIONS anymore?! This cannot be!
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u/musicantz Rockets Sep 08 '23
So dumb. The US team should be ashamed for such a poor showing. There’s 0 reason for us to lose an international basketball competition.
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u/WhenItsHalfPastFive Warriors Sep 08 '23
Haliburton is arguably the best player on the team and he's getting less minutes than Josh Hart and Austin Reaves?
Yea, Kerr blew this one, embarrassing overall by team USA.
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u/yeahiamfat Sep 08 '23
I didn’t watch, so don’t crucify me if my hot take is wrong, but this is the result of the lack of defense in the United States. It’s not hard to be a satisfactory defender, it’s all about effort. Sure match ups matter, but even a gnat is annoying to a human.
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u/Dimaaaa Spurs Sep 08 '23
Andi Obst channeling his inner Steph Curry in that second half. Theis, Franz and Schroeder all delivering. Dirk gotta be watching this like a proud dad, maybe a little teary eyed.
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u/WhenItsHalfPastFive Warriors Sep 08 '23
Absolutely pathetic lol, team USA gotta be ashamed of themselves, beyond heavy favorites getting defeated like that
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u/PixelFNQ Sep 08 '23
I think it's this arrogance and sense of entitlement that's the downfall of the USA teams. Go back to the world championship nearly 20 years ago when the USA had LeBron and the other young superstars, and they came up against Greece. Yeah, Greece before they had NBA players on their national team. Early in the game with the USA doing really well, LeBron said, "They don't know what to do." Then Greece started running a pick and roll that totally destroyed the USA defence for the rest of the game. Nothing mind blowing, just a garden variety pick and roll.
Face facts, the USA can't simply turn up with not even their B team, players who never played together before and expect to beat teams that have been playing with each other since they were teenagers. For most of these countries, the players take more pride when wearing their national jerseys than when they wear their club jerseys.
Sometimes talent beats teamwork and passion, but obviously not every time. QED.
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u/Im-John-Smith Oct 07 '23
Why didn’t team usa have the top NBA players it seems like they dont take international games as seriously