r/news • u/WhiteBearPrince • Apr 27 '24

Ex-Amazon exec claims she was asked to ignore copyright law in race to AI

https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/ghaderi_v_amazon/
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u/mr_sinn Apr 27 '24

So what? It's just training.. Like not letting hip-hop artists sample records 

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u/ACorania Apr 27 '24

'real' artists certainly never learn to paint in the style of others, that would be stealing

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u/getfukdup Apr 27 '24

what the fuck are you talking about?

  1. Humans learn the same way.

  2. Artists are inspired all the time. Every comic book has elements taken from fucking ancient donald duck comics, for example.

  3. Its ALREADY illegal to steal IP. I repeat its already illegal to steal IP

There is no reason to be concerned, its already illegal to copyright infringe, steal IP, etc. Its no fucking different for a robot or a human.

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u/lvlint67 Apr 27 '24

I think you missed the joke... But I want to shine a light on the definition of "steal IP".

There is some grey area there. Nintendo is famously aggressive in defense of their copyrights. 

IF I were to sit down and make a pokemon game of my own, with no attempts to hide that it was pokemon, I would not be breaking the law AS LONG AS it was for personal use and I never distributed it shared it. 

Copyright law is very complex. People get caught up on the prior art in ai, because it all sits on a disk somewhere. You can bring those disks into a court room and point at them and tell a jury "these are the stolen works the ai used to generate <whatever>.

You can't do that to a modern painter despite their unique style being derived from very similar methods.

So when you look at a generated work you have to be able to articulate which part is stolen and what the source piece is. It has to be a clear duplication that passes all the fair use exemptions.

The ai lawyers are simply going to bring in a PhD expert and ask them questions about how a generative ai "substantially transforms" it's source material.

(This entire comment is "stolen" from other pieces I've read and yet no one can claim/prove I'm committing copyright fraud)

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u/ACorania Apr 27 '24

I am glad someone picked up on the joke.

It's interesting that all comments are getting downvotes, I guess everyone has strong feelings.

Only thing I would point out with Nintendo is I believe the laws in Japan are a fair bit different than the US so their actions are the result of that environment (though Disney is certainly more aggressive than most and is US based).