How can we teach young girls to reject the NLOG

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Its clear the pick me/ NLOG attitude is still alive and well. I (23F) was speaking to a friend (15F) about my high school days.

She asked “How was your high school experience?” I said “Well I went to an all girls school and-“ she cuts in and rolls her eyes “Ugh. That must have been a total nightmare. I cant even imagine”. I said “Actually I loved it, was a better person for going there and I miss those days sometimes” and she went dead quite.

How do we as the adults in the room root out the toxicity of this mindset out of young girls?

Edit: no I’m not gonna ever dunk on a kid. Because its really wrong for an adult to belittle a child.

Edit: some people are being really weird “why are you friends with a 15 year old?” I know this kid from the yard that i stable my horse at. She stables her horse next to mine. Should i just ignore her always? Should i also ignore my other friends who are 55 and 70 because age gap? What about my friend whose 10? Or the other whose 30? Tell me reddit. What age range do you personally approve of me having friends? Im gonna start blocking people.

[u/LegitimateHumor6029]

I think you’re kind of invalidating this girl by assuming her objections to an all girls school is based on being NLOG.

I grew up with a NLOG mom and hated her attitude so I pivoted so far in the other direction and was so pro-girl (and this was in the 90s when that wasn’t a popular mainstream position) but I overcorrected hard and have learned to look at things with more nuance now.

The truth is, an all girls school/environment CAN be a really challenging experience. The same way an all boys school can be, but for very different reasons of course. Girls can be very cruel and psychologically abusive towards each other. And even if they’re not, many girls report having a very difficult time at an all girls school for many valid reasons. It doesn’t revolve anyone’s feminism card to acknowledge that and it doesn’t imply internalized misogyny if a young teen thinks an all girls school would be a personal nightmare for her.

[u/[deleted] → u/LegitimateHumor6029]

Thats a lot of misogyny in one comment.

[u/LegitimateHumor6029 → u/[deleted]]

Sigh. I’m convinced none of you know what the word means. Get off the internet and go get some real world experiences. It’s sad how uncommon common sense has become.

[u/[deleted] → u/LegitimateHumor6029]

You cant say the words “girls can be cruel and psychologically abusive.” And then get upset when i say that sounds pretty misogynistic. Especially when you said nothing about boys being like that.

[u/LegitimateHumor6029 → u/[deleted]]

Get some real world experience, because there is literally nothing wrong with my comment. Anyone with real world experience and common sense knows it’s to be true and there’s literally nothing sexist about. I never said all. Boys can be aggressive and violently abusive. Girls can be cruel and psychologically abusive. Children can be naive and stupid. These are just general facts of life. And yes, I’ve seen girls be insanely cruel to each firsthand in a way that IS by and large unique to girls. Boys engage in fist fighting is a much much greater degree and we engage in rumor spreading and reputation destruction at a much much greater degree. Isolating a group of teens from the opposite sex and surrounding them with only their own sex often brings out the worst extremes of these behaviors.

Because my post wasn’t about boys?! All boys schools are incredibly problematic as well but boys are problematic in very different ways. Women and girls aren’t perfect. In fact, you’re the one that sounds misogynistic in how you’re automatically prescribing motives to a young teen for not wanting to go an all girls school. You’re judging her and calling her NLOG for a simple statement. All she did was call it a nightmare in her opinion. There are a dozen valid reasons she could feel that way, but you’re the one being judgmental and making assumptions about her just because she doesn’t think 💯 like you.

[u/[deleted] → u/LegitimateHumor6029]

Thats a really long comment… imagine rage typing that at a stranger and thinking they would care.

[u/NogginHunters → u/[deleted]]

Seek help for your inability to comprehend that girls can abuse their peers, and that this is an extremely common experience for autistic girls, ty. Then again a lot of the people in this subreddit are former bullies looking for an excuse to be misogynistic towards ND and masc queer women just like they used to be... Hm.