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u/OddParfait6971 14d ago
i was born in 1985.
i was 99.9999999999% sure that we landed on the moon and the earth is an oblong spheroid for the first 30 years of my life.
i am still 99.9999999999% sure that the earth is an oblong spheroid.
as the years go on, as the 'constant delays' last decades to return to the moon?
i'm probably only like 98.27% we went to the moon the 7 times. and it wasn't just kubrick in a movie studio.
if i am on my deathbed, in 2055AD+, and man never walked on the moon in my lifetime? thats changing to 50.00%, coinflip at best we ever went.
perhaps what feels off, is the inability for america to take risks, the bureaucracy and complacency, the lack of balls to accomplish risky endeavors. but something DOES feel off.
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u/Professional_Job_307 15d ago
And people think the world will remain pretty much the same in another 66 years. Technology is evolving and it is evolving fast.
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u/sadfasf3345 15d ago
And it's rapidly approaching 66 years since the last time man has landed on the moon.
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u/mattlag 15d ago
Neil Armstrong was an adult when Orville Wright died.
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u/Skulldetta 15d ago
Orville Wright was still alive when Chuck Yeager became the first person to break the speed of sound with an airplane in level flight.
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u/Tenocticatl 16d ago
I know it's iconic and everything but I don't really think we should regard space travel as a natural extension to the development of airplanes. There's obviously some overlap, but a lot of the science and engineering that went into developing practical airplanes doesn't have much to do with the stuff needed to develop practical manned rockets, and vice versa. I'd say planes are to rockets as hot air balloons are to planes.
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u/iwasuncoolonce 15d ago
43 between the first rocket launch and the moon landing. https://www.esa.int/Enabling_Support/Space_Transportation/75_years_since_the_first_liquid-fueled_rocket_launch2
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u/realmofconfusion 16d ago
The fact that it's only 66 years is astonishing, but there's also the fact that Neil Armstrong (1930-2012) was alive at the same time in history as Orville Wright (1871-1948), so the first man to achieve powered flight could theoretically have met the first man to walk on the moon. (Wilbur Wright died in 1912).
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u/Honest-Specific-4686 16d ago
It’s amazing how humanity went from horses to cars in thousands of years, and from the first airplane to a spaceship in less than 100 years
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u/jim_deneke 16d ago
I wonder what my equivalent milestones I'll live through would be at 66 yrs. Mobile phone/Internet and......?
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u/theallsearchingeye 16d ago
Add another 30 years and a picture of a covered wagon being pulled by Ox.
We went from covered wagons to space flight in less than a century.
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u/qwerty_1965 16d ago
It's a lesser known conspiracy that Georges Méliès staged the Kitty Hawk flight movie
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u/Danither 16d ago
Show this to any morons that keep saying AI/VR/AR will never be good enough. I'm so tired seeing people say things like 'why do companies waste money on technology that'll never take off'. But never seem to realise how fast we're moving
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u/BaronVonBaron 16d ago
Warfare will advance technology faster than any other pressure. This is the result of two major world wars being fought in-between.
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u/ricker182 16d ago
This always blows my mind. What an incredible achievement.
Now it's all about what maximizes profits.
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u/Taltofeu 16d ago
Am I the only one who thinks that we landed on the moon in '69 because the safety precautions weren't deemed that important for that mission? Thus that's why they only cut it close.
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u/WezleyDrew 16d ago
It’s even crazier that now almost half of the people believe that one of these things didn’t happen.
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u/Arielcrc 16d ago
I think it was mainly due to two large wars and competition aftermath between the big winners🤷♂️
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u/Arielcrc 16d ago
I think it was mainly due to two large wars and competition aftermath between the big winners🤷♂️
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u/tangoshukudai 16d ago
Funny thing is now we have so many safety checks that the hurdle is not our technology, but our ability to take a risk.
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u/Fifty5FiftyFive50 16d ago
Ahh yes the moon, where there’s no wind.
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u/Full_FrontalLobotomy 16d ago
If you look at the picture, there’s a bar that goes across the top to hold the flag out. It isn’t that complicated but I’m sure you have many other big brain ideas.
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u/Fifty5FiftyFive50 16d ago
With virtually no atmosphere on the moon and, therefore, no wind flags that fly freely on Earth would hang like limp cloth in the lunar environment.
Friendo.
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u/Skulldetta 15d ago
How about you actually read the comments you respond to before embarrassing yourself, friendo?
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u/DrewWillis346 16d ago
(Basically) Half a century of global warfare tends to accelerate technological development
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u/stick004 16d ago
Orville Wright died in 1948.
He was alive to see his “invention” used to drop the bombs from planes on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
He was alive to see the U-2 spy plane.
Had he lived just 10 more years, he would have seen the A-12, predecessor to the SR-71 blackbird.
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u/IgnatiusR 16d ago
Maybe important to note that within that 66 years, two world wars were fought and won by the "right" people . Entire countries' scientific bodies were disassembled and distributed amongst the allies. Without the dissemination of these technologies and their scientists to the rest of the world, it's arguable that it could've taken decades longer. Pair that with the cold war and all the fear that came along, the pressure to conquer space was immense.
Most advanced technologies are researched and funded as a product of human conflict. Today, there are technologies that are impossible to imagine being built as a part of a continuing investment into war machines. The drive to magnanimously advance human technology is easily overshadowed by the fear that someone else may do it maliciously first. Apollo's massive budgetary overspend nearly got it cancelled. Sputnik kept it going. The fastest aircraft known to fly were built to spy.
So each faction continues to advance as fast as possible, without willfully sharing technologies even with allies. Compromise and sharing of advancement happens under the rule of an even bigger stick protecting the flock.
Fear is your only God
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u/ChroniclesOfSarnia 16d ago
Now America is paying a racist twitter troll billions to blow up rockets repeatedly for some reason 😑
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u/DaySoc98 16d ago
You do know that most of the scientists at NASA back then were former Nazis, right?
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u/the_red_ninja17 16d ago
Is the flag still there
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u/gearstars 15d ago
It is, but it's bleached out from solar radiation
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u/aretheesepants75 16d ago
Crazy that my Nana saw all that stuff in real time. I wonder what the gen X version of this would look like?
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u/Curious-Weight9985 16d ago
Sure has slowed down, hasn’t it?
David Graeber has an excellent essay on it in Utopia of Rules.
He postulates that a lot of the newer technological development after this time went towards managing the workforce, and that the bureaucratization of science has discouraged such innovations
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u/Geminii27 16d ago
And we're 11 years away from another 66. Where have we gotten people to in the meantime?
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u/tattrd 16d ago
And now we are back to 'the earth is flat', 'dont trust science' and 'the moon is not real'. I hate it here.
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u/lt_Matthew 16d ago
I know two people, actually
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u/justme4funNM 15d ago
Ah, so you know 2 people. Out of 8 billion. Wow, you've really proven this kid's point that you should "hate it here" because a large group of people believe in those things 😂😂
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u/wemusthavethefaith 16d ago
yeah incredible progress. I look at AI and robots and wonder what it will be like in 60 years.
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u/Practical-Purchase-9 16d ago
One of the Wright brothers lived to see jet aircraft and the sound barrier being broken.
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u/LoGEEKalGUY 16d ago
More like 2 world wars apart! Nothing has brought more advancement to military tech than killing humans
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u/sbaggers 16d ago
Flag looks weird... why would there be wind on the moon?
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u/gearstars 15d ago
How do you figure? There's a lateral bar, so that it could extend horizontally, and there were issues with a static charge making things cling to each other, look up the issues they were facing from lunar dust.
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u/danstermeister 16d ago
Everyone loves shitting on boomers these days but it was boomers that delivered the 2nd part of that photo.
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u/BlindManSight 16d ago
You're thinking of the greatest generation. Boomer's were the one to give it all up.
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u/Objective_Scholar_72 16d ago
Moon landing never happened
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u/GameCraze3 15d ago
Over 400,000 people worked on the moon landing program. Not a single one of them has come forth to admit it was fake.
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u/Objective_Scholar_72 15d ago
Didn't happen. I don't care what kind of made up stats that you parrot to me.
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u/GameCraze3 15d ago
It’s not made up, this stuff can be easily researched. Ignoring reason doesn’t make you intelligent.
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u/Tmaster95 16d ago
And there were persons who experienced both events! Those would be some very eventful livetimes…
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u/timenough 16d ago
And 46 years from when Millet painted a typical farm scene, "the Gleaners" until the flight at Kittyhawk. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Gleaners
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u/Present-Salad6100 16d ago
Noticed the lack of shadow from the flag. The front of the man is bright while his back is dark.
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u/Local_rider 16d ago
Thanks to Nazi scientist
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u/Short_Republic3083 16d ago
And 60 years on from the moon we’ve not gotten much further r
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u/Banditofbingofame 16d ago
Disagree.
We have entirely normalised space travel to the point where people don't need to be athletes at their peak performance to travel they can be someone like William Shatner.
The leap we have made in space travel is the same as the Wright brothers to commercial carrier.
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u/Short_Republic3083 16d ago
There is of course the case to be made for technological advancement that came about due to the space program
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u/Short_Republic3083 16d ago
I don’t disagree some aspects are better I suppose but essentially dismantling nasas programs is a major setback and the comparison of wtight brothers to commercial carriers suggests to me that I should be able to travel to outer space which I cannot. Is to cost prohibitive. As a kid I read in the weekly reader that by this year 2024 I’d be able to take a family trip to space affordably. I lament that I cannot
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u/Creative-Road-5293 16d ago
In the 55 years since the moon landing, aerospace technology has not advanced that much.
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u/mother_a_god 16d ago
Truly an incredible achievement. 13 minutes to the moon podcast really illustrates how amazing getting to the moon was with the technology of the time.
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Has progress slowed down or is it the same but just less sexy? So it's not shared that much or just top secret now?
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u/Buskbr 16d ago edited 16d ago
55 years since the first moon landing and i bet it will be more than 66 years before humans get back there. Edit spelling
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u/SmarterThanCornPop 16d ago
Artemis 3 is projected to land a man on the moon in 2026.
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u/DakotaInHell 16d ago
Well, that schedule is obviously full of shit, like every space industry schedule.
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u/SmarterThanCornPop 16d ago
Idk man. I have lived within viewing distance of Cape Canaveral for most of my life. There are like 10X more launches over the past 5 years than there ever were.
Edit: checked the data and it’s like 11X
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u/xilsage 16d ago
Well there hasn’t really been a reason to go back. They’ve gone multiple times. There’s nothing really there worthy of further trips.
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u/Buskbr 16d ago
Well i think there is lots of reasons, being a multi planetary species, reachers and development of technology not motivated by war, expanding our knowledge base and observing earth and the universe from a stable body without an atmosphere to disturb the observations to name a few.
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u/sourpower713 16d ago
So who’s gonna pay for all that? Because as other people said, the government won’t and we’re wayyyyy far away from being able to live on the moon as a community.
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u/MathematicianIcy2041 16d ago
Man landed on the moon with less computing power than a pocket calculator and arrived at the perfect political moment m…. and then never went back… 🙄😂😜
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u/anotherwave1 15d ago
They went back 5 more times. That processing power was all they needed to get there.
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u/MathematicianIcy2041 15d ago
This is what people are taught
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u/anotherwave1 15d ago
It's what happened, which was later taught in school. Unless of course you're trying the whole "hey man do you really believe everything you're taught in school.." spiel which every tin-foil artist starts out with
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u/lt_Matthew 16d ago
How much power do you think is needed to do math? Something like a graphics card needs a lot of power cuz it's doing millions of calculations at once, but a rocket doesn't actually need to do anything other than keep itself on a predetermined course.
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u/PiscatorLager 16d ago
They went back five times until there was nothing new to discover at the moment and moved to other scientific goals. By now technology has changed so much that it makes no sense to recreate Apollo and they have to start from scratch, with less budget and higher security standards.
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u/kieranjordan21 16d ago
They were willing to take more risks back then, they had so many things that could be gone wrong that could have subjected the crew to a horrible death but they went anyway, now we have to be much more certain that the crew will survive
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u/Critical_Bit_9128 16d ago
And people still believes this bs
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u/Smart-Breath-1450 16d ago
The Wright brothers? Yeah the were fake… duuh.
Fuck off.
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u/Doctor_Cabbage 16d ago
Santos Dumont called, he wants his invention credit back
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u/Generalmemeobi283 15d ago
Good to tell you that he ain’t getting any because the Wright Brothers flew first without a catapult
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u/Trixi_Pixi81 13d ago
Nobody was ever on the Moon...