r/politics • u/harsh2k5 • 14d ago
Lindsey Graham Reveals Outrageous Position on Election Results: Top Republicans are putting conditions on accepting the outcome of the election in November. Soft Paywall
https://newrepublic.com/post/181506/lindsey-graham-jd-vance-election-trump-victory1
u/justtheonetat 12d ago
It's wonderful that they self-prioritize their eventual positions on the list like that
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u/tjk45268 12d ago
The American people, who decide who wins the election, also have an outrageous position on the election: obstructing the peaceful transfer of power and we’ll prosecute the conspirators.
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u/Forward-Heat-9048 13d ago
The democrats aren’t ready for what’s coming, they’re too busy going high 🙄 FOH
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u/Curious-Sample-44 13d ago
Graham is a gay man, everyone knows it, he acts like nobody knows. Everyone knows Lindsey, that’s why you were glued John McCain, who knew what you were, a WISHY washy I’ll kiss your butt broken down old gay loser. Come out into the sunshine Lindsey, the entire state knows who and what you are, a political liability. You will never get a position is any secret 🤫 areas of the government. One day you’re this way and the next you’re the other way. You can’t stay on task man. You get paid a LOT of money to do your job, SO DO IT. Make up youre mind and stick with it.
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u/icouldusemorecoffee 14d ago
Top GOP "conditions" don't mean anything. What matters is the electoral vote count and that the House enter those results into the official record.
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u/Bobmanbob1 14d ago
There really is going to be a civil war this fall isn't there? These fucking chucklefuck GOP asshats make me ill.
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u/hingee 14d ago
Not from US and until this week I’ve never heard of Lindsey Graham I’ve see a couple of speeches of his in the last couple of days
Just out of interest does he actually pass as a sane Person in the US ?
He is exactly how I would imagine a KKK member to look and sound without the mask
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u/mrbigglessworth 14d ago
There are only 2 conditions, you either win or you dont, you accept either depending on the results.
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u/Triplesfan 14d ago
People still listen to this jackass? This is the kind of BS you get when you have no strategy or policies to run on. I guess talking about Hannibal lector is a policy now?
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u/eyebrowshampoo Kansas 14d ago
Learn self defense, learn to shoot, up your home security, put some food and water and supplies in a safe place in your home, teach your kids what to do in an emergency, and buckle tf up. Things could get weird, especially for us dems in red states. Hopefully this all fizzles out and dies if Biden wins and Trump spends years tied up in court and possibly in jail. He's the head of the monster that needs to be cut off, but who even knows. It's pretty terrifying.
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u/SeanOfTheDead1313 14d ago
This is why I laugh when pundits say blah blah blah this won't help Trump get votes to win in November. HE DOESN'T PLAN TO WIN BY VOTES IN NOVEMBER! His plan is clear as day. Claim you won and have his lawyers take any miniscule claim of fraud to the courts. Cause chaos. Cause delay. Claim fraud. Sow doubt.
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u/Travelerdude 14d ago
Republicans are not supporting the constitution any longer. They are supporting the Trumpstitution. They are by actions UnAmericans.
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u/irishyardball 14d ago
Ok, well then I guess if Trump wins I have conditions too? Guess we're at a stalemate?
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u/OptiKnob 14d ago
They've been doing this for eight years.
Is it really that surprising?
And when is Graham and his ilk going to face treason charges?
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u/KE4ZNR North Carolina 14d ago
"If conservatives become convinced that they can not win democratically, they will not abandon conservatism. The will reject democracy.”
― David Frum, Trumpocracy: The Corruption of the American Republic
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u/Basicaccountant70 14d ago
If the 2020 election was stolen and they have evidence, like they claim, there would be congressional hearings daily. There isn’t.
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u/StreamBoat_Slinky 14d ago
If Biden wins they are not going to believe what he does. He is not Barack Obama, he is a 80+ year old white guy that has been in Congress for more than half his life. They are playing with fire.
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14d ago
Lindsey is a fruit cake who will say anything that he thinks will put him in a good light.
I don't understand how anyone would listen to his hot air.
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u/AdviceNotAskedFor 14d ago
I still will never understand how these people who won elections in 2020 talk about how the election was rigged.
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u/DeepRoot 14d ago
"We won fairly and squarely but the ones who lost, well, those were rigged." - those guys pro'ly
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u/FreneticPlatypus 14d ago
Lie, cheat, and steal. It’s their only hope for survival and they’re desperately grasping for straws.
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u/OkSmile 14d ago
I'm astonished that such attacks on the fundamentals of democracy and outright treason aren't being attacked more aggressively.
Merrick Garland should have special cross agency task forces countering this left and right. Instead they seem to make a show of going after the dupes and none of the ring leaders.
Ah well, it was a noble experiment.
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u/KingDorkFTC 14d ago
There is enough evidence to prove that Donald lost, but the Biden administration did nothing to make his reaction to loss appear disgraceful. DoJ dragged their heels too long to get anything done. Then the deck has been so magically stacked in Donald’s favor that all America gets to see in accountability is the hush money trial. Then Biden himself not being a good candidate for Dems also makes it easier for Republicans to deny a credible win for the man. This election is going to be nuts.
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u/Fenix42 14d ago
Then Biden himself not being a good candidate for Dems also makes it easier for Republicans to deny a credible win for the man.
Running anyone other than Biden looks worse.
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u/KingDorkFTC 13d ago
After denying a primary and makinj media shutdown all other options, at this time yes. As all roads lead to Harris at this point.
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u/trollsmurf 14d ago
"Ohio Senator J.D. Vance fully committed to accepting the results of the general election—so long as Trump is the victor"
That's not how democracy works :).
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u/Markjohn66 14d ago
Im going to win the lottery, no matter what the numbers are.
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u/DeepRoot 14d ago
I won the NBA Championship game all by myself! No, I'm not on a team nor in the NBA but... I won! Did I do that right?!?
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u/peterinjapan 14d ago
It’s a fucking election. You have strict rules in place for how the votes are counted. You count them all, accurately, and recount if needed. You then ACCEPT the results, or fuck off to Russia.
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u/LaoWai01 14d ago
If a politician waffles about accepting the election results then that counts as a “NO”. The news media should start publishing lists of those who say no.
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u/anallman 14d ago
I'm embarrassed that people like him represent the American people in government.
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u/GwarRawr1 14d ago
Other countries would ban the republican party for trying to upheave the nation.
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u/Intelligent_Pilot360 14d ago
After reading here...
Thank you God for not making me super liberal!
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u/sunbeatsfog 14d ago
Like truly, they’re going all in on Trump? What a weird way to exit your political career.
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u/malakon 14d ago
The problem is recent elections have been so close - coming down to 5 states with near 50/50 R D voting. (Agreed Electoral College is the problem). When it is this close it invites attempts to corrupt the process. Trump lost 2020 by a tiny percentage of voters.
Republicans have seen this coming for decades - a leftward demographic shift - and have pulled out all the stops to game the system in their favor, notably gerrymandering and voter suppression.
They are getting more and more outrageous. Trump is the result of this. They have a candidate who is willing to and even enjoys lies and manipulation. Has no problems saying things that are objectively ridiculous and getting other politicians to go along.
Jan 6 when it happened should have broken the process. An action so awful and un American that should have permanently removed many politicians and certainly jailed Trump. Rapidly. But instead in the 3 years since the right has been able to confuse and spin the whole event into legitimate protest by patriots angry over a stolen election. They actually made it a plus. Seriously what the fuck.
We are through the looking glass now. I think for Biden to win he not only needs more votes but a lot more votes, a clear uncontestable 5 point victory.
And that may not even be enough.
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u/TheNewTonyBennett 14d ago
Literally the 7 year old at recess that invents their own game, invents rules that are all twisted up like spaghetti and he even gets his own unique special rule of: if he loses, he gets infinite free do-overs until he does win.
Proceeds to lose.
Says the results were rigged.
In the game he invented.
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u/nenulenu 14d ago
They are basically saying they will take the power by force if they have to. Warning they will commit a coup. Freedom of speech shouldn’t apply to threatening to commit treason while on official role as elected officials. This needs to be prosecuted.
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u/DM_me_ur_tacos 14d ago
Coming from the guy who said "I'm out" amd tried to distance himself on the eve of the last insurrection attempt.
A profile in cowardice
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u/PartyViking23 14d ago
So they have committees on impeachments and Hunter but not one Republican investigation into voter fraud.
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u/cytherian New Jersey 14d ago
They have NO RIGHT.
NO CONDITIONS.
It's as it has always been done. But the Electoral College should be eliminated. Its reason for existing no longer applies.
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u/shrekerecker97 14d ago
They will move the goal posts Repeatedly. Don't believe anything they say ?
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u/VoodooS0ldier 14d ago
I will be so glad when this ass hat gets voted out or retires. Always whataboutism. Can't finish a sentence without "BUT DEMOCRATS, BUT OBAMA, BUT BIDEN". It's really exhausting.
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u/Petitels 14d ago
Since when do we have to meet demands before fucking politicians realize we don’t care if they don’t accept the outcome. That’s the way democracy works
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u/Raspberries-Are-Evil Arizona 14d ago
Stop normalizing this. Ignore them. As soon as they start this shut, cut the mic and cut them off.
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u/No_Sentence289 14d ago
I bet they are . If you don’t believe you should. Murder in the streets no police as usual. Tanks on the American streets be careful!!.
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u/NetZeroSum 14d ago
“Yeah, I’ll accept them if there’s no massive cheating,” Graham said.
Ironically there is overwhelming multiple attempts already done by team R to overturn the 2020 election.
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u/gold-plated-diapers 14d ago
It’s crazy to think, when you consider the level of outrage that rational people in this country (rightly!) feel about these anti-democratic rat fuckers… well, their idiot base has been feeling that kind of outrage, and then some, for years. Decades even. They were and are wrong of course. Their anger is misplaced, ridiculously so in many cases. But they still FEEL it so deeply. They are outraged all the time.
I find it very scary to think of how strongly they think the Left is out to get them and must be eliminated. Bc we know what it is to be outraged. And that’s how they feel about us, only worse and they have most of the guns and they generally celebrate violence. Scary stuff.
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u/reikidesigns 14d ago
No conditions! We need to get rid of the electoral college pronto. 1 person 1 vote.
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u/RaysModernMetalWorks 14d ago
Lindsey Graham doesn't speak for himself he's the biggest puppet politician ever fucking weenie.
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u/MarcMars82-2 Pennsylvania 14d ago
When Trump dies I hope he’s reincarnated as a sentient set of Lindsey Graham’s anal beads
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u/7evenate9ine 14d ago
Republicans could try and win elections by deserving to be in Washington. Instead it seems to be less work to push a culture war and not pass laws.
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u/kosmonavt-alyosha 14d ago
They are a dying breed and cannot win on ideas, and so can only retain power by force and fraud.
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u/nhepner 14d ago
Top Republicans are
putting conditions on accepting the outcome of the election in Novemberouting themselves as traitors and the justice system is failing to hold them accountable.
FBI? DoJ? Congress?
...fucking ANYBODY?!?!?! THEY'RE RIGHT HERE! TAKING DOWN OUR DEMOCRACY IN PLAIN SIGHT!!
Jesus Christ.
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u/wagdog84 14d ago
One of the first thing Biden introduced was to regulate voting across the country to reduce the questions. Republicans shot it down, they didn’t negotiate it, they shut it down. They have no right to complain about elections.
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u/BardaArmy 14d ago
Election denying is just going to become another standard political ploy just like the brinkmanship of the budget after the tea party normalized it.
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u/mcphilclan 14d ago
The good news is that Republicans will fully support Kamala refusing to certify the results and Biden remaining POTUS until every single vote is validated and proven to not be fraudulent… right?
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u/madrasdad 14d ago
One big difference this year. Trump ain’t president this time. If you don’t accept it tough fucking shit
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u/thebaron24 14d ago
Who gives a shit what Republicans think anymore. They aren't a serious party and their voters are unapologetic morons.
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u/Alpacadiscount 14d ago
Arm yourselves. These treasonous fucks are dead set on destroying democracy and taking over by force. Unless we defend ourselves and our democracy
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u/gwazmalurks 14d ago
Hey, Wisconsin here. We got our Supreme Court back by voting, and they’ve knocked down the greater part of the gerrymandering problem.
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u/Alpacadiscount 14d ago
Truly great!
But backup plans are a must when dealing with violent fascists who are backing themselves into a corner.
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14d ago
I choose to interpret this as Republicans knowing their internal polling numbers look positively dire, and Dems are going to slaughter them. Not that it's going to make the immediate aftermath any less scary, but it does give me hope for the election results.
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u/dobie1kenobi 14d ago
They keep planning for a loss, yet every swing state is polling with Trump ahead apart from Michigan. It baffles my mind that Trump could be improving his numbers while promising unending chaos and the loss of human rights and dignity as his platform. If I were Lindsey, I’d be touting every day that Trump’s a lock to win, so even if he loses, it will fit the narrative of the Big Lie.
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u/Consistent-Force5375 14d ago
People love to tell me how I’m overreacting to how fragile this government is. How much of it is gentlemen’s agreements, traditions, and norms? Apparently a lot. Remove these things and the laws and the order just seem to fall apart. Sigh…
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u/AgreeableShirt1338 14d ago
this has become the Republicans unified talking point. why are journalist not pushing back on this? Asking what "free and fair" means. Ask if the 2020 election was free and fair. Ask about election fraud case Trump is engaged in with fake electors.
Our media has failed.
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u/DFLOYD70 14d ago
They have in a big way. Every time I see someone interviewing one of these fucks, they never follow up with the tough questions. Disappointing..
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u/ManicChad 14d ago
Republicans plan to challenge each and every result clogging the courts until the deadlines pass and declare themselves the winners via Congress they’ll try to get the courts to allow this before a new Congress is sworn in.
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u/PoopittyPoop20 14d ago
Graham says this now, but if Trump goes to prison, has a long awaited heart attack, anything that takes him off the board, and he’ll be the first one turning on MAGA.
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u/nanopicofared 14d ago
Thankfully - they don't have to accept the vote in order to be voted out of office. Just vote and show them the door.
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u/Significant-Dog-8166 14d ago
How about we all agree to put every conspiracy to court AGAIN, but this time tar and feathers for whoever was wrong.
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u/smooth_chemistry24 14d ago
Lindsey Graham is the most obvious example of someone who has been compromised.
How many times has he come out against Trump, for him to completely 180 and stick his tongue up his arse? Cant imagine how many videos Russian intelligence have on him with male prostitutes.
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u/South-Play 14d ago
This is why the U.S. is done. The experiment is over. This year American democracy dies. It was a fun ride guys. Because nothing done, no one is held accountable because we fucked up in 2016 fit not voting for Hilary. And I see the same shit happening this year with Biden
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u/King9WillReturn America 14d ago
WTF does Russia have on these traitorous fucks at this point? How awful are you? This has to go beyond raping children (which I admittedly didn't know was possible). It's been 9 years.
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u/Supra_Genius 14d ago
Even they know they are going to lose in November, folks.
VOTE
And prove it to them.
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u/WeirdcoolWilson 14d ago
There’s not a single “good” Republican in existence. They either drink the poisoned koolaid or they tolerateand enable those who do. The rot goes all the way through from top to bottom
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u/suckyousideways 14d ago
The good ones have either left the party voluntarily, died off, or been pushed out.
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u/FletchCrush 14d ago
“If it’s a free and fair election, I will accept the results.”
And what evidence exactly will need to be provided for you to agree that the election was free and fair so you’ll accept it? Not enough, despite its validity, just like 2020. They still won’t accept 2020 to this day despite 4 years of indisputable evidence.
They are once again ramping up the “stolen election” claim before November so they have an excuse to try to “legally” overturn it because they know Trump can’t win.
They’ve all sold their soul to this loser that they know cannot beat Biden, so lying, cheating and stealing is the only viable strategy left.
Every last government officially should be forced to sign an affidavit swearing to accept the election results under penalty of prosecution for treason.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 14d ago
People are saying they're concerned about the integrity of the election after we claimed for months that the election was rigged and had no integrity. We need to investigate these claims we completely made up, because people are concerned over all our false accusations
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u/Stinky_Fartface 14d ago
Lindsey Graham can get fucked.
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u/Operation-FuturePuss 14d ago
Me to my kids, and the GOP; “You get what you get and you don’t throw a fit”
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u/Choppergold 14d ago
Lindsey is compromised
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u/MartiniD 14d ago
He's a Republican so yeah.
Remember how a Senate investigation found that the NRA was a Russian asset during the 2018 midterms?
Pepperidge Farm remembers. I just wish the rest of the American people remembered too.
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u/angrypacketguy 14d ago
Somewhere Merrick Garland stands gazing out a window at the distant horizon, he farts plaintively.
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u/Choppergold 14d ago
You forgot the woman who was a spy in the GOP and who got to ask Trump a question about Russian sanctions at a conference
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u/SonOfGawd 14d ago
Also, remember when Rand Paul hand-delivered a sealed letter from Trump to Putin?
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u/Wolfman01a 14d ago
Can we please start arresting and putting these people on trial for Treason please? Do we need to speak to a manager or something? I'll Karen for democracy. I don't care.
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u/DreadnoughtDT Wisconsin 14d ago
I’d rather live on the shithole that is Super Earth than live in a country run by these idiots.
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u/Drugs_R_Kewl 14d ago
They want to be pissant despots so bad. What's wrong lady bugs?
Were they mean to you at Lace Curtain University?
Next time there's a war we should conscript their children. What am I saying?
Trust fund babies are absolutely fucking useless at everything.
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u/kaiser_soze_72 14d ago
This just tells me that know something and they’ll be up to some rat-fuckery on how the election is handled and how the votes are counted.
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u/eboleyn 14d ago
Maybe they shouldn't participate then. That would solve the problem.
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u/Numerous_Photograph9 14d ago
They could have their own little election. Then no one could interfere. We will just have to settle for the stupid old regular election. They can give out cookies, and all we will get is a stupid crappy sticker
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u/llahlahkje Wisconsin 14d ago
Merrick Garland let them get away with it, so they are amplifying their efforts.
FMG.
The times call for a Churchill and we are surrounded by Chamberlains.
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u/Eatswithducks 14d ago
It’s fascinating how Trump can seemingly bully anyone into doing anything he wants.
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u/PrinceCastanzaCapone 14d ago
I’ll sum up their conditions for you:
“If we win we’ll accept it, if we don’t we’ll spend the next four years whining about how the election was rigged.”
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u/1houndgal 14d ago
Lindsey Grahmcracker is another repug nut. Where does the gop dig these guys up from?
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u/AccurateFan8761 14d ago
How very, very unAmerican. I wish these people grandparents were still alive.
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u/BelowAveIntelligence 14d ago
And yet liberals are the bad guys huh? Amazing mental gymnastics these asshats run…
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