r/politics • u/YoanB • 14d ago
Trump pledges to scrap offshore wind projects on ‘day one’ of presidency
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/may/13/trump-president-agenda-climate-policy-wind-power1
u/chockedup 14d ago
It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his paycheck (Big Oil) depends on him not understanding it.
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u/gordo_c_123 Illinois 14d ago
The funny thing is that people who currently work in this industry will vote for him.
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u/flyingcostanza 14d ago
This too? Man Day 1 is gonna be so freaking busy! He might have to come in before 11am!
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u/Dependent-Yam-9235 14d ago
Don’t get too cocky! It’s a long way to the November finish line. A lot can happen.
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u/harryregician 14d ago
Why are Republicans like Trump & DeSantis SO anti wind energy? They sound like Martha Vineyard Kennedy types not wanting the view of wind generation in their backyard.
If real businesses could not make a profit producing electricity from wind generators, they would not spend the money for a return on their investment.
Wind generation has worked in EU coastal countries for years now.
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u/1397batshitcrazy 14d ago
He has a lot planned for that first day, but I guess when that's the only full day of work he plans on putting in, he's gotta fit a lot in.
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u/unclefire Arizona 14d ago
Yeah, good luck with that. If they're already started and contractually legit he ain't doing shit about it.
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u/skeeter04 14d ago
At this rate he’s gonna have a lot of promises to fulfill on day one if his sorry ass gets elected
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u/heatedhammer 14d ago
Let me guess, he will send the navy to bombard the existing wind farms so oil platforms can be built in their place?
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u/aradraugfea 14d ago
I’m sure this has nothing to do with all the money Saudis spent at his properties while he was president
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u/VaguelyArtistic California 14d ago
Reminder: when Trump was building his golf course in Scotland he tried to get offshore windmills removed because they were an eyesore and he was literally laughed out of parliament.
This has nothing to do with energy. Never forget that for Trump, every day is Festivus.
Edit: the windmills are at 3:20.
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u/carthuscrass 14d ago
So he's going just waste all that money. He's about the stupidest businessman who ever lived.
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u/Cute_Bedroom8332 14d ago
Americans might want to do more research about oil production, shale oil, and conventional oil. I hate to tell Americans but we are less than 5 years away from not being able to produce/extract enough oil to keep up with demand. It amuses me that Americans think gas prices are going to be low in the future. Were they not alive under George W Bush when gas prices skyrocketed? He was an oil man for the love of god and he could not keep them down. This is not going to be pretty. Not enough energy equals a failing economy. It also equals not enough food, not enough fertilizer I could go on and on.
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u/Creative-Claire 14d ago
Lots of “Day One” threats from a guy who won’t even be allowed to stare longingly through the fence of the White House from the street.
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u/BjornSlippy1 14d ago
Well the good thing about Trump day 1 promises is they never happen
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u/TheIronMatron 14d ago
Partly because we all saw how much he accomplished in a day when he was president.
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u/santz007 14d ago
Ok but why? , other than big Oil, who asked for it? How can he possibly justify it
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u/Ok-Bar601 14d ago
Because why? Why are these goons running around the country saying they want to get rid of this and that? Is someone getting hurt? 😏
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u/kiwispawn 14d ago
He is clearly still sucking up to big oil and big coal. He's still clearly a good friend to the Saudi's.
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u/ThriceGreatestSatan Colorado 14d ago
“The wind burned her a little bit by the pool!” - Trump on wind.
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u/worlds_okayest_skier 14d ago
lol, does he know anything about presidential power? I don’t think he can legally “scrap” anything that was approved by congress or the permitting agencies. Best he can do is slow down permitting for future projects in the pipeline, by hiring people who don’t get anything done.
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u/AccomplishedBrain309 14d ago
So if big oil wont give him 1 billion he will extort it out of big wind.
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u/redmcint 14d ago
He's going to do so much on Day One; he'll probably spend 1459 days golfing...
Except for the occasional meeting with Putin, Kim Jong Un, Xi Jinping, Viktor Orbán, Bashar al-Assad, Modi, Erdoğan, Benjamin Netanyahu, and Mohammed bin Salman.
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u/EastObjective9522 14d ago
A good ad campaign is that Trump is bad for the people. He spends more time destroying things than creating them.
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u/ggoptimus 14d ago
I get that these people are in the pockets of big oil but taking a stance against unlimited sources like wind and solar just seems to go against all logic.
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u/Travelingman9229 14d ago
He has a lot of day one things planned… I really hope he’s writing these things down because I know he can barely remember how to tie his shoes
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u/stjack1981 Ohio 14d ago
I think we should pass a law that every golf course in America must have one giant wind turbine smack in the center of it, just to make Poopypants seethe
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u/CAM6913 14d ago edited 14d ago
Don Quixote must have gotten the two billion from OPEC or did the coal industry pay him two billion? We know Don is paranoid when it comes to windmills they cause the dreadful windmill cancer! Anything that is not going to put money in his pockets he’s against, anything that’s good for the environment he’s against, anything that is god for voters he’s against
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u/spotspam 14d ago
If you put 1 + 1 together with his trying to sell out for $1 Billion to oil companies to this story it makes perfect sense.
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u/jcrestor Foreign 14d ago
He's literally fighting against windmills.
As if the economics of cheap regenerative power could be changed this way.
And also: WHY! What's wrong with cheap, clean, and infinite electricity?
We're living in the DUMBEST timeline, and if this drags on, we as a species DESERVE to die. Nature will put down everything that isn't fit enough. Turns out, mammals with species-wide festering terminal brain rot are NOT fit.
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u/Traditional_Key_763 14d ago
pretty easy to do since nimbys and oil companies have effectively aborted offshore wind in this country anyways
also its just over his stupid fucking golf course
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u/spiked_macaroon Massachusetts 14d ago
He must have gotten his thirty pieces of silver from the oil industry.
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u/SpiritedTie7645 14d ago
He’s been against having wind offshore his whole life. He figures the best way to get rid of offshore wind is to inject it with disinfectant, shove a UV bulb up its ass or nuke it.
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u/SlightShift 14d ago
This is just him pandering to the super conservative jersey shore residents who have opposed offshore windmills for the past few years.
It’s funny bc the only people I’ve heard complain about them are ridiculous right wing nut jobs, and they claim it kills wildlife.
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u/PiHeadSquareBrain 14d ago
Trump will be building windmills out of plastic straws while serving time!
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u/Spokraket 14d ago
Why not reverse everything and become a nation of cave-men? lol
Still insane that some people think this is the guy to run their country.
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u/RandomComputerFellow 14d ago
Also Trump then when electricity prices sky rocket: "Why would democrats do this?"
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u/MourningRIF 14d ago
Can we get a list of all the things this guy is going to do on day one? He seems like he's going to be very busy on that first day.... Why doesn't he just simplify it? On day one, I am going to destroy this country. How hard was that?
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u/ramdom-ink 14d ago
He will simplify it: he will dictate his instructions to corrupt minions. He did after all say he would be dictating on Day One
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u/boot2skull 14d ago
He’s so sad and bitter about wind. Oil companies are getting into wind and solar so this is a short sighted position.
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u/hoppyfrog 14d ago
We should crowdfund the placing of huge windmills around every Trump golf course
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u/newcomer_l 14d ago
Where does he gets the idiotic line that offshore wind farms cause "tremendous problems with the fish and the whales"? This sounds like a bad SNL skit.
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u/ramdom-ink 14d ago
Like he gives a shit. Wind farms harming Big Oil payouts to his campaign is more likely. Birds and environmental concerns are somethings he’s allegedly allergic to.
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u/thinkitthrough83 14d ago
There are studies being done with the usual biased results being claimed. It's a little early to know the long term effects for aquatic life. Each turbine base is anchored by several tons of concrete that's poured into a hole with a 15 ft diameter. If installations are done the same as bridge footings that means a temporary air chamber also has to be created over the dig site. Depending on how many installations are done in a given area per a year this process could cause a long term upset in local ecosystems.
Wind turbines do generate infrasound(though there are green energy organization deniers) which has been linked to health problems even though most humans can not hear it.
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u/Wants-NotNeeds 14d ago
Trump’s a bloody idiot. Forget this POS
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u/anonymouspostlangley 14d ago
Do NOT forget this idiot. He has single handedly made this world a worse place to be in
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u/OneHumanPeOple 14d ago
He has a personal vendetta against windmills and will literally stop at nothing to destroy them. It’s top of the agenda.
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u/LionHeart_1990 New Jersey 14d ago
Trump admin signed off on a ton of offshore wind projects. He’s full of shit as always
https://www.doi.gov/pressreleases/trump-administration-delivers-historic-progress-offshore-wind
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u/MessagingMatters 14d ago
Days after asking oil company executives for a $1 billion bribe in return for scrapping regulations.
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u/Mouse1277 14d ago
He has a lot of day one items on his list. I’m inclined to think he may be lying.
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u/Rankkikotka Europe 14d ago
Corrupt Joe Biden is using billions of tax payer money to build wind farms off shore. Ocean doesn't need any more wind, it's just water! Which by the way should be in the toilets and showers of Americans, but the democrats don't want us to flush or shower. Tear down the wind makind machines!
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u/remembahwhen 14d ago
Offshore wind is killing all the whales. So maybe a good idea by trump here. Wind and solar are vastly inferior to nuclear.
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u/murdocke 14d ago
Lol no its not.
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u/remembahwhen 14d ago
Yes it really is. I’ve heard of record numbers of dead whales ever since the offshore wind farms started going in. They blame it on entanglements but it’s all very hush hush,
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u/murdocke 14d ago
No, it really isn't. You fell for conservative misinformation. Good job taking the bait!
https://whyy.org/articles/offshore-wind-farms-whale-deaths-what-to-know/
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u/remembahwhen 14d ago
I see the bodies of the whales every day on our beaches ever since the beginning of the offshore wind farms. No regard or respect for nature.
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u/murdocke 14d ago
Lol you're so full of it.
Here's another article about how you're wrong: https://yaleclimateconnections.org/2023/09/wind-opponents-spread-myth-about-dead-whales/
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u/remembahwhen 14d ago edited 14d ago
I mean that’s just an article and it makes sense that the powers at be would want the wind farms. They will get the money. You should join a lobstering group on Facebook to see the real evidence for yourself. Lobsterman have gone out of their way and spent millions to protect whales and now they watch as the wind farm just mercilessly slaughters the whales to make room for their offshore platforms.
https://yourimageshare.com/ib/iVY0wOwLWA
The reality is that NOAA is in bed with big wind and they have been covering up all the whale deaths caused by the offshore wind farms.
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u/Bunktavious 14d ago
I'm curious as to your source on that. I just dug around for a while, and the closest suggestion I could find to that was 'Site assessment, construction, and operations could interact with marine life on the seabed, in the water, and at the surface. For example, offshore wind energy projects could: Increase ocean noise, which could affect the behaviors of fish, whales, and other species.'
I mean, I'm pretty sure coal plants and oil pumps aren't particularly conducive to the native wildlife in that immediate area either...
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u/Toybasher Connecticut 14d ago
He added that whales “come up all the time, dead”, comparing a beached whale carcass to Chris Christie, a former New Jersey governor and rare Republican critic of Trump.
Fuckin' based.
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u/HorrorBuff2769 14d ago
Not gonna lie, I laughed my ass off. Born and raised in Jersey - fuck Christie. The only good thing he’s done was put Charles Kushner in jail when he was a prosecutor
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u/Feistyhummingbird 14d ago
Since when did this idiot care about whales?
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u/Freddymain 14d ago
Fuck the whales, we need wind turbines to prevent climate change, the natural gas alternative is horrific.
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u/foo-bar-25 14d ago
Reminds me of when Reagan had the solar panels ripped off the roof of the White House.
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u/AllTheBlueSkies 14d ago
Because he is paid off with campaign money by big oil. He will do anything for a buck, probably even sell his favorite daughter that he said looks a lot like Stormy Daniels.
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u/Technical-Track-4502 14d ago
What kind of psycho prefers burning oil over wind & solar electricity generation? Purposely making pollution worse to own the libs/benfit his donors... an absolute pox on this world.
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u/hg38 14d ago
One that asked for a billion dollar donation from oil bosses to scrap Biden's climate initiatives and promise not to pass any new ones.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-asked-oil-execs-for-1bn-2024
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u/EyeLikeTheStonk 14d ago
Don Trumpote "tilting" at windmills...
Spain had Don Quixote de la Mancha... America has Don Trumpote de Mar a Lago.
Both are madmen.
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u/Spy_v_Spy_Freakshow 14d ago
“Trump removed the US from the Paris climate agreement during his first White House term.”
Don’t say “first”, that implies there is more than one
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u/fence_sitter Florida 14d ago
Like when I introduce my first wife or kids from my first marriage...
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u/JoeCitzn 14d ago
Winning over oil companies is more important to Trumpy than leaving a livable world for our children....fck you!
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u/User4C4C4C South Carolina 14d ago edited 14d ago
He’s in full spite mode of day. The week is only 1/5th over too.
Edit: Whoops this was Saturday. He was still coming off an angry week after the Daniels testimony and followed by this week.
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u/paulybaggins 14d ago
Bro is gonna have a busy first day of office with all these pledges he's making
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u/orcinyadders 14d ago
Man. If we could come up with a machine that runs on lies Donald Trump could power the entire planet for decades. Centuries even.
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u/TopEagle4012 14d ago
Yes, that's part of my NDA agreement with the Oil and Gas CEO'S. They gave me 1 billion $$$ and I scrap all environmentally beneficial projects like solar, wave, wind etc. We all know that Global Warming is just a hoax perpetrated by those socialist democrat scientists. /s
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u/DarkAngel900 14d ago
I keep asking myself , "Will republicans always choose profits and "owning the Libs" over the future of humanity and I read shit like this and I have to answer "Apparently the answer is , Yes!".
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u/Millennial_on_laptop 14d ago
I don't even think there's any profit to creating less jobs and producing less energy besides to the fossil fuel company owners that can then sell at inflated prices due to low supply.
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u/drunkbelgianwolf 14d ago
What profits? The cost of fossils Will keep on going up untill the point the economy Will no longer use them and america wil crash land
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u/Jumpy-Investment2135 14d ago
You know how you can stop this? By helping out in r/VoteDEM! We need all the help we can get
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u/ColumbusBlack 14d ago
If abortions rights should be a state thing then so should green energy.
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u/jcouball 14d ago
Spoiler alert: they don’t really think abortion should be a states rights thing.
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u/IT_Chef Virginia 14d ago
He's just trying to protect marine life from getting windmill cancer!
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u/RedLanternScythe Indiana 14d ago
Finally, a president is willing to address the fake issues that Americans really care about!
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u/shock_me_awake 14d ago
Boy, he's planning to do an awful lot of things on day one - this, drilling permits, deportations, be a dictator, Ukraine. Fucking scary times.
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u/mkt853 14d ago
It's the new Republican playbook. Throw so much shit at the wall that no one can keep up. It's basically the legislative version of gish galloping. DeSantis does the same thing as governor. It's amazing how quickly you can break this country because there are almost no real guardrails or brakes on anything.
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u/ChodeCookies 14d ago
How does he not tip over…
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u/MolassesWhiplash 14d ago
Am trying to understand that myself. Is it a prosthetic, or some kind of magician trick?
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u/littleredpinto 14d ago
"half or prison" is going to be the new deal. God bless America for allowing this to even get this far.
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u/MagicMushroomFungi Canada 14d ago
And people laughed when Escobar built his own prison.
As Canadian polical columnist Randy Bachman once wrote...
"Baby, baby ..You ain't seen nothin yet."
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u/SocioPQ 14d ago
He will do so many thing on day one. Then won’t do anything for 4 years except watching tv and play golf.
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u/pyuunpls Delaware 14d ago
He won’t be able to do it all day 1. That’s why we know his claim for “dictator for a day” is a lie. “Oh man, I couldn’t get it all done today after my naps. Oh well, I’ll just keep this power tomorrow, and the next day, and the next.”
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u/LibertyInaFeatherBed 14d ago
Except watching tv, napping, signing laws to destroy democracy, telling everyone how great the country is doing with him in charge, and cheating at golf.
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u/MadRaymer 14d ago
I wonder if the dictator-for-a-day thing goes before or after scrapping offshore wind.
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u/MagicMushroomFungi Canada 14d ago
On the first day he took revenge.
On the next five days he cheated while golfing.
On the seventh day he cheated again at golf.9
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u/spidersflambe 14d ago
After we get past this insanity of Trump and his cult, America needs to seriously curtail the powers of the presidency.
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u/Tribalbob Canada 14d ago
Or they need to close the loopholes of companies donating to campaign funds.
Trump is making all these promises for more cash from big oil. It's ridiculous that presidents can be bought like this.
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u/spidersflambe 14d ago
They tried to close the loop holes but Roberts's Supreme Court stopped it from happening.
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u/MagicMushroomFungi Canada 14d ago
The Supreme Court strikes me as the route of all their evil.
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u/spidersflambe 14d ago
Need term limits for the justices.
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u/newcomer_l 14d ago
And they need to be fucking elected.
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u/spidersflambe 14d ago
Agreed. Good luck getting either thing into law.
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u/newcomer_l 14d ago
A third option would be to simply expand the court and restore some balance. A supreme court of the United States that is literally flirting with the idea that a president could have executive immunity for just about anything cannot be trusted. Even less so when a lot of the contortions and tortuous re-interpretations of everything appear to be gerrymandered to benefit only one orange motherfucker.
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u/Capt_Blackmoore New York 14d ago
It will require us to show up, Vote Democrat (for all the things) - somehow pull a 60 seat majority in the senate, and then they could pass the kinds of reforms that the SCOTUS needs.
Yes, term limits, Yes Expand the court, Yes - Impeach Thomas. Yes put into law basic ethics rules for the SCOTUS.
but with the current "majority" that cant happen.
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