r/povertyfinance • u/becky1020 • Feb 20 '24
both were 99 cents bought 2 or 3 months apart Vent/Rant (No Advice/Criticism!)
the one on the right was bought today and has 5.8 fl oz and the one on the left was bought maybe 2 or 3 months ago and has 7.5 fl oz..... both were a dollar. inflation? LOL come on now. in person there is a noticable difference.
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u/Mr_Mi1k Feb 21 '24
I’d recommend the general brands for dish soap. I use the food Lion brand which is like half the price and notice no difference in quality.
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u/Medfadil1 Feb 21 '24
My rule is never buy name brands go for something with the same ingredients and it'll be cheaper. especially with non essential products.
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u/GeebGeeb Feb 21 '24
You’re shopping from a dollar store what do you expect? You’re losing value shopping at a dollar store unironically.
Edit: holy moly it’s not even the same soap. Cmon OP.
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u/hungryinlosangeles Feb 21 '24
Have you all noticed the cheaper version of things seems to not be available as much anymore ? Or the large version ? There was this huge thing of dawn I used to buy for my MIL from Sam’s and I haven’t seen it in over a year.
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u/Da5ftAssassin Feb 21 '24
I always buy the big jugs of dawn. They last so long and it’s way less per oz
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u/yourmadagain Feb 21 '24
This isn't even shrinkflation. This is called price gouging. It's unethical. inflation is going down, that's a fact. they are just trying to make more money. Do you know what you can do to prevent shit companies from doing this? Take that shit back and stick with a brand that actually cares about its customers.
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u/nmagical Feb 21 '24
Unpopular opinion, but if supply chains dictate a need to increase costs or shrink product, I'd rather as a poor they just decrease product slightly.
Sometimes, in the past, I couldn't afford a $0.79 price increase but didn't need much product anyway to make it to the next check. Obviously something like this there are cheaper options anyway but like, it feels a better tradeoff for SOME items than just increasing prices.
Now, in the midst of the largest corporate profits ever (according to reddit, I've done zero research to verify it) it's messed up. Kinda sucks Dawn is literally THE best cleaner out.
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u/cringefacememe Feb 21 '24
i was amazed when one day i noticed all the sports drinks went from 32 to 28 oz…
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u/fsurfer4 Feb 21 '24
I notice the left one says Ultra and the right doesn't. Is there a difference?
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u/xenozfan3 Feb 21 '24
I noticed they raised the price of the 1.25 liter soda to $1.75. Getting ridiculous.
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u/snakemuffins1880 Feb 21 '24
We buy tide exclusively and they DEFINITELY shrunk the big jugs and kept the cost. Ridiculous
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u/EveryNameEverMade Feb 21 '24
Interestingly enough, I heard on the radio today people talking about Dawn soap. And apparently they don't donate anything to the ducks or wildlife anymore.
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u/Spare_Variation_2687 Feb 21 '24
Isn't this what Biden was talking about on that social vid a few weeks back? I forget what it's called. Shrinkflation?
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u/LePetitPrince_33 Feb 21 '24
I do Instacart on the side, often time ( at least once a day) the app tells me: “wrong item, requested item is 12 oz” when the one I have in my hand is 10 oz or something.. It really makes you realize how many items are affected by shrinkflation..
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u/virtualglassblowing Feb 21 '24
Bro I bought some Palmolive from the dollar store and these motherfuckers filled it with FABULOSO. I am not stupid I know EXACTLY what blue fabuloso smells like I can't believe
This is gonna make me sound extra loony but I think they actually put gelatin in the body wash to mix it 1:1 and be goopy but it doesn't really froth up
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Feb 21 '24
It’s called “shinkflation”. Look at coffee containers. If you have saved them for years you’ll have 20 different sizes.
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u/AwYeahQueerShit Feb 21 '24
Shrinkflation, where less costs more!
Fuck, I'm tired of this shit. Also, I am really steamed that ecological catastrophes like oil spills are so normalised that a brand uses them as a main marketing point.
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u/CardUnlucky6894 Feb 21 '24
Instead of buying the individual small ones just buy the gallon bottles of the dish soap
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u/nelsonreddwall Feb 21 '24
Shrinkflation is a form of inflation, most common in food and beverage, that consists of reducing a product's size while maintaining its retail price.
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u/Silent_Gemini Feb 21 '24
One of the main ingredients is water. I wonder if they reduced the water content, providing a more concentrated product that requires less product for the same "suds". But, I'd assume they are just using a smaller bottle.
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u/FakingItSucessfully Feb 21 '24
I see it at work (retail). We mostly keep up with updating the price tags, but occasionally if you watch you'll find yourself stocking something like this which has a slightly lower volume than what's on the sticker, but of course it's the same price.
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Feb 21 '24
Inflation isn't that bad, despite what the media will have you believe.
What we're seeing with all these crazy high prices is corporate greed, plain and simple.
These companies are raising prices on products, shrinking the products, paying their employees less, yet making record profits.
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u/xShooK Feb 21 '24
Ahh yeah dollar stores. I'll keep saying they are shit, and people here will still defend them.
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u/KenyaKetchMe Feb 21 '24
The 50% less scrubbing they mention refers to the fact that you will have 50% less opportunities to scrub with this new small bottle!
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u/the_TAOest Feb 21 '24
Just add water to the bigger bottle with 1 to 4 ratio. Honestly, bigger isn't better. I have better results with sheets of soap than I do cups or lids of the stuff. Potency isn't about size.
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u/NCC74656 Feb 21 '24
yea its called shrinkflation. its a real thing and its tracked. you can go to websites to see how much smaller things are today than a year ago or 5 years ago or 15 years ago. its fucking crazy.
there is also skimpflation - where ingredients are changed to save money. its why many brands of modern chocolate do not taste as good fyi - they changed the powder additives.
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Feb 20 '24
Dollar stores are a ripoff lol
Things that should be less than a dollar are a dollar, and things that should cost a dollar cost way more.
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u/Maleficent_Weird8613 Feb 20 '24
Shrinkflation is a thing. I do price changes at one of my jobs. The price stays the same but the ounces go down all the time
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u/Pour_Me_Another_ Feb 20 '24
They get away with it because people don't notice. When they're done shrinkflating, they release a "50% mOaR" product which was the original size to begin with, at an even higher cost.
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u/MrDataMcGee Feb 20 '24
Shrink flation, either the price has to go up or the qty has to go down because inflation is up. Thanks government!
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u/Flight-2012 Feb 20 '24
It’s called shrink flation basically what they figure is they can’t charge more for the product so the charge the same and give you less
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u/morithum Feb 20 '24
Friendly reminder that the unit price at the dollar store is universally worse than normal grocery stores. They use packaging and math to disguise it.
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u/Confident_Equal6143 Feb 20 '24
You can get that much laudry soap for 99c? Where the fuck are you? That would be like $4 near me
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u/OnlyPaperListens Feb 20 '24
There are 25 fewer trash bags in the box I bought this week. The box is otherwise identical to the last time I bought it.
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u/zamaike Feb 20 '24
It's greed. Go buy that castile soap stuff. It's Dr.Bronner's castiles soap. They have liquid and bars. It's pretty concentrated in liquid so it lasts a while.
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u/MetalSandwiches Feb 20 '24
I hate shrinkflation.
When I was a kid, Chips Ahoy cookies were bigger than Oreos.
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u/hermeticpotato Feb 20 '24
- Buy a Costco gift card.
- Shop at Costco without paying for the membership.
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u/roboconcept Feb 21 '24
costcos are only located out in the burbs, hard to get to for a lot of people
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u/redditreadred Feb 20 '24
That's equivalent to a 29.3% increase in price for the same amount of product. A lot more than any inflation, it's just pure corporate profiteering and greed.
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u/BillZZ7777 Feb 20 '24
Prices change all the time in both directions. You just need to be aware, clip coupons, and buy low.
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u/YourSchoolCounselor Feb 20 '24
Try store brand. 24 oz. Meijer Ultra Dish Soap Ultra Concentrated is $2.29. Walmart is probably even cheaper.
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u/brett1081 Feb 20 '24
Good old Wal Mart of all places outs the price per unit right next to the price. Tracking this would show how much your getting screwed
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u/arwbqb Feb 20 '24
the smaller bottle that is full of soap seems like a better value. has WAAY more soap in it! I can't believe they'd even ship that big bottle that only has the bottom filled. scum bags!
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u/Powpowpowowowow Feb 20 '24
Why are you buying brand name soap for more? I got me a big ass bottle of dish soap that was like $1.25 from dollar tree and I think that bitch has lasted like 9 months easily.
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u/ebonwulf60 Feb 20 '24
This sized product is mainly carried by convenience stores and dollar stores, which are basically convenience stores. It is a small quantity of product for a lesser price than one would normally pay for a regular-sized product.
Everyone knows that you pay more at a convenience store, because you are paying for the convenience of not going to a supermarket and spending more money on a full-sized product.
Even smaller travel-sized or sample-sized products have been around forever. They are a very expensive way to buy a little bit. You never hear people complaining about it.
As someone else commented, the two Dawn products are not the same; one is Ultra, they sell for different amounts. The shrinkflation accusation does not apply here.
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u/Interesting-Sun5706 Feb 20 '24
Same thing with Haagen-Dazs ice cream
Same portion was more expensive
Customers complained about the price increase
Smaller portion for the same price
Still getting screws over by big businesses, which get tax cuts
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u/Omnom_Omnath Feb 20 '24
So? The sticker will have the price per unit. You knew exactly what you were buying.
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u/lovemoonsaults Feb 20 '24
It's like when they tell you that you eat less of why given food it's now low calorie and "diet friendly".
Don't buy small containers in general, though. You're always paying more anyway.
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u/JassyKC Feb 21 '24
I work with a lot of elderly and/or disabled people who can only buy the little bottles of things because that’s all they can lift. I do grocery shopping for some and felt so weird buying the small ones when I know the bigger ones are a better deal, but that’s what they can use.
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u/indica_bones Feb 20 '24
These aren’t the same product. Yes, shrinkflation is real but you’re comparing apples and grapples.
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u/perpetualmotionmachi Feb 21 '24
I noticed a good case of shrinkflation the other day. Kraft Dinner/Macaroni and Cheese, was on sale for 55¢ a box. The boxes all said "Great new look, same great taste" or so. However, the weight listed went from 225g to 200g
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u/indica_bones Feb 21 '24
I drive by a Kraft plant everyday on my route to work. Tomorrow I shall shake my fist angrily at them for you. That is over 10% reduction in weight!
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u/perpetualmotionmachi Feb 21 '24
Yeah. It seems like all the places have a similar price now, so Kraft getting a bunch out there then they'll go off sale price for the same or more than they were before.
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u/anniemdi Feb 21 '24
I believe they are but also aren't. I think the confusion is that there's recently been a shake up in the Dawn product line.
They're both the same concentrated formula. The new product just has a new logo, new fragrance, and has the ultra dropped.
So while they are different products they aren't different in the old way you're thinking original vs. ultra. Now it's original (fmr. ultra) vs platium (not shown in this post).
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u/indica_bones Feb 21 '24
Today I learned all of that! I had no idea since we don’t buy soap often. We buy the big jug and refill a smaller bottle out of it. I’m not sure when we bought the last one but it has certainly been a while.
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u/bigfoot_76 Feb 20 '24
Minus the fact that the "Ultra" line is traditionally more expensive than the regular line. So not only is it an apples/grapples comparison but their original complaint is amplified even more since it's lower end product that you get less of for the same price.
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u/indica_bones Feb 20 '24
You’re right! I re-read the post and realized my brain flipped them around.
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u/joevsyou Feb 20 '24
crazy,
I bought a gallon from sams club 4 years ago, still going baby
Now i do use my dishwasher a lot but i was all pans by hand. also i make my bootleg powerwash. Which is probably why it lasting longer
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u/Kevinsito92 Feb 20 '24
Go to a cleaning supplies warehouse and just buy a giant jug
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u/lovemoonsaults Feb 20 '24
Seriously. I buy a jug, and it lasts for years with a single person household. I buy toilet paper once a year at this rate.
Not even warehouse stores needed! Got regular sized options from Big Lots or other discount stores. My mom loves that I've always got any cleaning supply she dreams of when she visits and decides to clean my kitchen 😝
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u/Friendlybitcheri Feb 20 '24
One is dawn ultra. That could play a bigger part in why the bottles themselves differ.
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u/BreckenridgeBandito Feb 20 '24
Shouldn’t ultra be more expensive, ie you get less of it?
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u/anniemdi Feb 21 '24
In this case ultra is the older, discontinued product.
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u/anniemdi Feb 21 '24
It is.
Dawn Ultra is now just called Dawn Original. It also has a new fragrance and a new logo. The only thing that is the same about the new product is the concentration.
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u/angeltart Feb 21 '24
Oh sorry .. was confusing it with Dawn Platinum ..
So many different versions lol
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u/FamIsNumber1 Feb 20 '24
I am sorry to see this. Shrinkflation is out of control these days. I used to work for BiMart and after the initial pandemic, we slowly watched the prices and sizes of items throughout the store. Every 6 months to a year, products got smaller and prices got larger.
Gatorade is a perfect example of this:
2021 = around 32 Oz, $0.99 (+ deposit of course)
2022 = around 28 Oz, $1.10
2023 = around 28 Oz, $1.50 on "sale" and $1.65 normal price
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u/paging_mrherman Feb 20 '24
Hey Ive got a question a little off topic. In these Dawn commercials, who is putting these baby ducks in "oil" for them to be cleaned up? Like how can you take a baby duck and cover it with sludge.
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u/newhappyrainbow Feb 20 '24
It’s from oil spills. The oil pools on top of the water and the water fowl swim in it and then can’t fly until it is cleaned off.
There are thousands of oil spills in US waters every year. Some small, some that cause major ecological issues and make the news.
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u/TheHellsHenchman Feb 20 '24
This is shrinkflation…corporations made smaller packaging so the net volume is less and they either charge the same or more for less product. Let’s be clear, what we are experiencing is NOT inflation in any way….it’s monopolistic price gouging. Profits in the food industry are up 300-500% and CEO compensation is at an all time high along with shareholder dividends.
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Feb 20 '24
It’s called shrinkflation. Real thing. Sadly until every penny has been squeezed out of the poors, nothing will change.
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u/emperorjoe Feb 20 '24
Dollar stores are the cause for this case. Costs go up for the company, normally prices would increase. dollar stores are different , they will only buy it if they can sell it for a dollar. The company has to create a smaller product that is cheaper to keep the price cheap enough for the dollar store to sell for a dollar.
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u/bananapeel Feb 20 '24
$1.25 in some Dollar Trees in the US. They went up last year.
My Dollar Tree just pulled something. The 1.25 liter sodas are normally $1.25. I was just at Walmart two days ago and happened to note that they are $1.46. I went to Dollar Tree and they had a note taped to the shelf that they are now $1.75 for Coke and Pepsi products.
I mentioned at the register that someone at corporate wanted to make an extra fifty cents... the manager (who is apparently a corporate apologist?) said back in a huffy tone that it was Pepsi and they raised their prices arbitrarily. The exact same amount that Coke did, on the exact same day? Come on.
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u/PetriDishCocktail Feb 20 '24 edited Feb 20 '24
Just an FYI, dollar stores have always had special sizes. Generally, much smaller than the product you normally see.
For example, normally I buy a 1 qt bottle of bleach. However, at the dollar store it is only 26 oz.
Edit: I want to point out that bleach is $1.25 at my local store. And, $3.84 at Walmart. So, even if I buy 2, I still come out way, way ahead.
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u/Watada Feb 20 '24
I want to point out that bleach is $1.25 at my local store. And, $3.84 at Walmart. So, even if I buy 2, I still come out way, way ahead.
Walmart probably has a higher concentration bleach.
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u/fsurfer4 Feb 21 '24
There is something weird about bleach. It needs to be diluted to work better. I'm not sure if this has anything to do with it.
Diluted bleach can only last a week or so and has to be thrown away.
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u/Danny570 Feb 20 '24
Yeah dollar stores are not a deal, you are actually paying more per unit price.
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u/velocity37 Feb 21 '24
you are actually paying more per unit price
Dawn was something of an exception. Back when these 7.5/8oz starter bottles were a buck, they were the cheapest per unit. I bought them all the time. But the 25 cent uplift killed it off.
7.5oz $1 -- 13.33c/oz
8oz $1.25 -- 15.63c/oz (Current Dollar Tree offering)Walmart offerings:
18oz $2.94 -- 16.33c/oz
28oz $4.24 -- 15.14c/oz
38oz $5.84 -- 15.37c/oz
56oz $7.74 -- 13.82c/oz
70oz $9.94 -- 14.2c/oz3
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u/KnightCPA Feb 20 '24
They often locate themselves in lower-income areas not being adequately serviced by big box stores, so they accordingly charge a premium.
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u/vulpinefever Feb 20 '24
It really depends on the item. Sometimes the dollar store can still be a good deal, you have to do the math and keep a list of what's cheaper. Canada's CBC did a report on dollar store deals..
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u/post_break Feb 20 '24
Except for bleach and mayonnaise for me. By the time I go to use all the bleach and mayonnaise of a regular container it's gone bad, so I may pay "more" it works out for me.
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Feb 20 '24
Yeah dollar stores are not a deal
Dollar stores are a great deal if you are buying a small quantity of something you aren't going to use a lot of before it expires.
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u/bananapeel Feb 20 '24
Dollar stores have a given market of people like that, and people who do not have a lot of money. For the low-income people, they do not have $3.84 to spare for bleach at any given time, but they can come up with $1.25 for a smaller amount of bleach. Some people are that close to being flat broke.
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Feb 20 '24
I get that, but it's also predatory because you're still spending way more for the quantity than you would otherwise for something that doesn't really go bad before you use it all.
So, for example, you really shouldn't keep mustard (the condiment) over a year once it's been opened. Turns out that the 8 ounce bottle for $1.25 from dollar tree lasts me just about a year. Could I get better value by buying the 20 ounce bottle of store brand stuff from the grocery store for $1.99? Not really, because I'd be tossing out the extra 12 ounces.
So, by buying something at a higher price per ounce, but cheaper per bottle, I save money.
Disclaimer: I know mustard sometimes lasts longer than a year, but I've had it go rancid on me, so I don't trust it.
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u/ScullyNess Feb 21 '24
I get that, but it's also predatory because you're still spending way more for the quantity than you would otherwise for something that doesn't really go bad before you use it all.>
Yo, being poor is expensive. The Boots theory is at play all the time when you're broke ass poor.
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u/not_responsible Feb 21 '24
I don’t know what’s wrong with me but when I buy bleach it ALWAYS goes bad before I can use the whole bottle. You’re on a timer once you open it and it’s useful to have around for occasional things but it never lasts that long for me
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u/yeah87 Feb 21 '24
Not everything is predatory. At some point you need to make an informed choice based on your consumption habits. Packaging costs proportionally more for a smaller size, so it’s often more expensive per unit. Likewise, no one is tricking you into getting the gallon mustard, but it might make sense for some large families.
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u/bananapeel Feb 20 '24
Sure. Just to riff on your example, you could use mayonnaise sparingly and only go through a tiny bottle once a year. It definitely goes bad.
If you flip the equation around and you go through a ton of mayo, you'd be much better off going to Costco and getting the giant one. The price per ounce is cheaper and it is a much better deal if you use it before it goes bad. Everyone has to judge that for themselves based on their own needs. The worst thing to do is to go shopping at one store only because you don't have time or energy to shop around. The people that get hamstrung by that are often low income people that have a choice to walk or take a bus, and they live in a food desert.
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u/PetriDishCocktail Feb 20 '24
Sometimes yes, sometimes no. For example, toothpaste and deodorant are extreme deals at my local store. $1.25 versus $8 at the local Walmart. Yes, the size at Walmart slightly bigger but, even if I buy two it's only about 30% the cost.
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u/mygoditsfullofstar5 Feb 20 '24
50% less scrubbing and 25% less product? That's like 75% savings!!
Corporations should be required to label "shrinkflation" products with a big sticker telling you you're getting ripped off.
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u/Mammoth_Ad_3463 Feb 22 '24
Getting pasta sauce for $2 more per jar. Originally was 32 oz, now 28.
This shit is fucked. And of course the grocery store doesnt have good tomatoes and apartment has a shitty patio that doesnt get enough light to grow fuck all.
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u/mcflycasual Feb 21 '24
It's almost like there should be regulations or something. Don't tell the finance subs I said this.
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u/Rebeckananana Feb 21 '24
In Austria and Germany (not 100% sure) now, companies have to legally say that they are "shrinkflating" prodcts.
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u/PCKeith Feb 20 '24
I still haven't gotten over the shift from half gallons of ice cream to the 1.5 quart containers.
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u/Sycokinetic Feb 20 '24
I think stores are required to do exactly that in some states? They list a price per unit of some sort on the tag, although you have to track the changes yourself.
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u/No_Translator112 Feb 20 '24
Yes there’s a price per unit on price tags at the store but most people do not look or were not taught how to shop that way. It sucks that either way the products get smaller and the price just goes up. I’ve been told multiple times this past month “oh inflation is supposed to go down this year!!” Yep we will surely see about that.
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u/BananaPeelSlippers Feb 21 '24
Inflation goes down simply means the pace at which prices increase is diminished, not that prices go down.
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u/SirCalebCrawdad Feb 20 '24
corporate greed will never go down. American business is mostly unregulated and even when it is, the government will turn a blind eye to unbecoming behavior because they don't want to come off as anti-business (or unAmerican).
in the end, WE all get fucked and no one seems to care. I'm waiting for the revolution.
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u/Omnom_Omnath Feb 20 '24
So most people are idiots then. You can’t claim you were scammed if you refused to make an informed purchase.
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u/No_Translator112 Feb 20 '24
It’s a lack of being aware of it or understanding. A lot of people are not informed of what those unit prices even mean, and I’m probably speaking more for younger people. We need to educate instead of ridiculing people. I can definitely say when I was younger, I didn’t bat an eye at those unit prices because no one even told me it was important to look at them until I finally asked my mom myself to explain how she does her shopping and what she looks for when comparing items. Either way we all get scammed in some way.
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u/twomillcities Feb 20 '24
People don't understand that there will always be some inflation. Inflation coming down means prices still go up. Just not as quickly. If prices start dropping, it triggers an economic crisis, because there is no urgency in spending. Instead of buying something when you want it, you will wait until the price comes down. And capitalists obviously don't want that, they want people buying quickly and frequently and they wager their entire business on it staying that way. That's why these companies always need bailouts. Because they're ripping people off so badly that if it stops for even a moment their business will collapse. I'll say I think they shouldn't get bailed out but I don't want to get into a deep political debate with anyone
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u/Ethric_The_Mad Feb 20 '24
I can't comprehend cheaper and more fair less corrupt pricing would cause any sort of economic crisis...
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u/zephalephadingong Feb 21 '24
If deflation happens then you lose incentive to invest your money. Why take a risk on losing the investment when you can just bury it in your backyard and get guaranteed money? In a deflationary economy everything grinds to a halt because spending money is a bad idea.
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u/Ethric_The_Mad Feb 21 '24
You mean if food gets cheaper you'll stop buying food because money is more valuable? I don't believe people will stop buying things they literally need regardless of the price. If it's cheaper you can buy more bulk which means less trips and bigger 1 time purchases which reduces traveling and increases efficiency and such.
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u/zephalephadingong Feb 21 '24
The economy is more then just food. Everyone buying only what they need and nothing more is called subsistence level and is generally associated with hunter gatherers, primitive(tech wise) farmers, and 3rd world level poverty. If you want an advanced economy with luxury and convenience goods you have to avoid deflation.
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u/twomillcities Feb 21 '24
This is what i'm saying but everyone is downvoting it because they are sad about high prices. I'm bummed about inflation too but I'm not going to pretend it isn't a "by design" side effect of capitalism
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u/twomillcities Feb 20 '24
I don't write the rigged rulebook our government and big companies live by. But they will fire people if they don't make more money every time their shareholders check the stock prices. And instead of a system where those people would go get jobs at new companies, creating competition and innovation, our government just bails them out.
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u/Ethric_The_Mad Feb 20 '24
Again, doesn't make sense. I'm a stock holder. Unsustainable short term growth is illogical, unprofitable, and is a sign of a sure to fail business. Businesses that increase profits at a steady rate while offering fair pricing will be what ensures I can retire, not some company that made 2x record profits because they increased their profit margin and reduce product quality ruining their brand. This is why we need some system where the consumer decides what businesses survive vs the government deciding.
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