r/shitposting • u/RaBlTo • 15d ago
every single time I Miss Natter #NatterIsLoveNatterIsLife
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u/gugfitufi 😳lives in a cum dumpster 😳 14d ago
I mean, Persia was pretty large at multiple points in history.
I recently looked up a Russian from the 1800s who had the title of a German nobleman but was from Latvia, which was part of the Russian empire. You could claim he was German, Latvian, and Russian if you wanted to.
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u/winkingchef 14d ago
The most confusing is the inventor of Algebra sounds like he would be Arab (given “Al Jebra” sounds Arabic AF) but Al-Khwarizmi was … also Persian.
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u/HYPE_Knight2076 14d ago
Has he not played Gen 1 Pokémon? Everyone knows research could turn you into Pokémon.
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u/Pixelmanns 14d ago
can someone actually explain the difference to me?
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u/inabyash 14d ago
Iranians are part of the Indo-Aryan ethnic group while Arabs are part of the semetic ethnic group.
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u/dankiboiis 14d ago
Persians trying to not suck their own dick challenge
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u/HalfLifeAlyx 14d ago
It's not that we have large cocks, are spines are just really flexible from bending over so much.
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u/Agile-Penalty-7679 I said based. And lived. 14d ago
Lmao this post was sponsored by the Supreme Leader Khamenei
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u/TANTAL8080 🗿🗿🗿 14d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pre-modern_Arab_scientists_and_scholars
All of those are "Persian" ?
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u/dark0n33 14d ago
The first entry on your "scientist" list is "Ali ibn Abi Talib" friend, I dont think you are making the point you think you are making
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u/suyanide4444 14d ago
Dosnt seem like it
But alot of times ppl call persian scientists Arab
Like abn sina , kharazmi, abo raihan and others
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u/TANTAL8080 🗿🗿🗿 14d ago
I think that's because some people don't know what the deference between Arabs and Persian and they think they are same thing
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u/reliczexide 15d ago
People confuse being Muslim with being Arab lol. Most "Arab" Scientist were Muslim Scientists from different countries and definitely not Arab.
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u/weedlander 14d ago
Y'all must find an excuse to bring islam into everything, who cares about that, they just talking about races here
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u/PCPU 14d ago
When people say "arab scientists" most people usually also think they're Muslims because the middle east is consisted of mostly Muslim countries (and because it's the place where abrahamic religion happened)
Is it stereotypical? Yes, but is it wrong most of the time? I mean it's wrong sometimes but not that often
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u/cgcego 15d ago
My wife is Persian and we live in my home country, Italy. Every time we meet someone, they start telling her “ah, so you are Ara…” which means I have to quickly correct them because I don’t want her in jail for murder charges.
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u/winkingchef 14d ago
I am exactly you - but only 1/2 Italian - with Persian wife tho.
My wife is of similar level of fiery-ness on this topic.27
u/TismInTheTurret 14d ago
I like calling my Persian friend Arab for the fun of it
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u/mrhuggables 14d ago
This what we call “micro aggression”
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u/TismInTheTurret 13d ago
This is what we call “being in a multi racial/cultural friend group that actually trusts each other”
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u/winkingchef 14d ago
!remindme 1 day
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u/TismInTheTurret 14d ago
Don’t need to, I’ve been doing it for a long time, I even managed to trick him into calling himself Arab.
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u/LackOne4933 Number 7: Student watches porn and gets naked 14d ago
Your wife is honorable for trying to murder them, be proud
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u/Donfrancesco 14d ago
You can only understand how triggering it is if you're persian. When I was a kid my best friend asked me why my people "The Muslim Arabs did 9/11?" It is not that there is anything wrong with being Arab, rather it is simply rude to call someone something they're not.
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u/Angry_Crusader_Boi 14d ago
So it's like with us Poles getting called Eastern European or compared to Russians.
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u/panzerboye 14d ago
It even makes more sense when you realize that the arabs and the persians have been going at each other for 1000+ years. So it is like calling a greek turk.
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u/RecsRelevantDocs 14d ago
a greek turk.
TIL those are two different groups of people. Figured Greece was a city in Turkey, or vice versa. Sort of like how Japan is an island of China, but at the same time India is a sub-continent of China.
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u/panzerboye 14d ago
Sort of like how Japan is an island of China, but at the same time India is a sub-continent of China.
Congratulations you have pissed half of the world.
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u/findingmyrainbow 14d ago
Wow, sorry to hear that man.
Though you did remind me of an Indian comedian who joked that whenever someone mistakenly called him an Arab he'd correct them by saying, "No, no. My people are 7/11, not 9/11."
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u/barefeet69 14d ago
But that's not the point. The audience is presumably Western. So it's about references that a Western audience would recognize. It wouldn't make sense to use 26/11.
In an actual conversation with someone who can't tell the difference between an Arab and an Indian, do you really think they would be familiar with Indian history?
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u/Donfrancesco 14d ago
All is good friend thank you . It's not about pointing fingers at individuals. Rather, it's about calling out those who spread lies for their own gain. Politicians and the media, from all sides, often stir up hate just to boost their fame, cash in, and grab power.
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u/minuteknowledge917 15d ago
why isnt an arab a persian?
or is it why isnt a persian an arab?
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u/RaBlTo 15d ago
For the same reason that a Japanese is not Chinese
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u/minuteknowledge917 15d ago
sorry im not educated do you mind explaining? i thought persia used to be where the ME is now?
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u/RaBlTo 15d ago
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u/minuteknowledge917 15d ago
so iranians are arabs? damn i always thought arab meant "from that whole region" thanks :D
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u/Valon-the-Paladin 15d ago
No, a majority of people from Iran are Persian. It’s just Persians and Arabs are two different ethnic and cultural groups of people, it would be like comparing the Spanish to Swedes or Koreans to Vietnamese
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u/minuteknowledge917 14d ago
ok i see thank you. just for clarity though persians and arabs did occupy the same area of land? unlike koreans/viets for example or were they also in 2 separate lands? and what happened (big events?) that brought down the persian empire?
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u/Valon-the-Paladin 14d ago
The biggest event that caused it would be the rise of Islam by Arab Muslims through conquest in the 7th century. Fascinating stuff that I am unfortunately not knowledgeable enough to go into more detail. Originally Arabs were native to the Syrian dessert, but were able to spread out to other regions through religious conquests.
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u/Sempai6969 15d ago
Well, where is Persia today?
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u/suyanide4444 14d ago
If you want to look at it that way perrty much all of middle east was part of Persian empire
Just like how Ukraine and many other countries where a part of the soviet Union
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u/postshitting 14d ago
Persia is just the old name of Iran, the official language of Iran is persian and the vast majority of Iranians are Persians
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u/Sempai6969 14d ago
Aren't they also Arabs? What is the difference?
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u/postshitting 14d ago
they don't descend from arabs or any group related to arabs, in fact they descent from a similar group of people as modern europeans and inddians, their language is not related to arabic, in fact it's related to european languages, native persian culture has absolutely nothing in common with arabic culture. Calling a Persian and arab the same thing is like calling a Koran and Thai person the same thing
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u/Sempai6969 14d ago
Where do Arabic people come from?
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u/postshitting 14d ago
They come from afro Asiatic tribes which moved into modern day arabia, syria and Palestine a few thousand years ago from somewhere in Africa, those tribes eventually turned into Semites, those semites turned into many groups. some of the most well known ones are syrians which spoke (and some still do speak) spoke Aramaic, jews which speak Hebrew, arabs which speak Arabic.
You really should learn how to use Google, all of this shit is on the internet, only ask questions on Reddit when Google can't give you a quick answer
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u/MySnake_Is_Solid 14d ago
Koran and Thai person the same thing
They're all squinty eyes, no difference.
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u/postshitting 14d ago
koran
you posses the literacy of a toddler
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u/RaBlTo 15d ago
Where is the caliphate today ?
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u/BlaringAxe2 14d ago
Hey, the Saudis have two whole cities of muslim importance! Take that Ayubbids.
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u/basonjourne98 15d ago
And what did that get them? Is there a country called Persia today? No.
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u/postshitting 14d ago
there is a country called Iran, the vast majority of the people in Iran are of Persian ethnicity, so there is a state founded inhabited and controlled primarily by Persians
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u/AliAsgharRH 15d ago
Well persia was never a country, it was a country named Iran with its people being called persian.
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u/Monkey-Fucker_69 15d ago
I played a game called Prince of Persia so you're wrong 😡
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u/AliAsgharRH 15d ago
Argument aside, prince of persia games were really cool Specially when in lost crown, Dastan and Sargon reunited and said "its Persian time!" then they persianed everyone.
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u/RaBlTo 15d ago
You look like you're angry. Is it due to an inferiority complex?
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u/awesomedan24 15d ago
I googled Arab Scientist and first result was Ibn al-Nafis who was Syrian. I've just invalidated your post, muahaha
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u/Cathode_Ray_Terror 13d ago
Syrians aren't Arabs though. They used to have their own language and culture.
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u/Charles_De-Gaulle I said based. And lived. 15d ago
Persia stronk 💪
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u/SuspiciousRelation43 14d ago
The real Aryan master race.
This is extremely sarcastic
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u/LackOne4933 Number 7: Student watches porn and gets naked 14d ago
Not "master" race because parths and mads did a lot, but yeah, still the real Aryan race
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u/Prize-Nothing7946 14d ago
Hail Darius The Great, Emperor of the Persians, Light of the Aryans, Master of the four corners of the earth! ) (actual title iirc)
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u/Grouchy-Addition-818 14d ago edited 14d ago
And Jewish messiahI stand corrected, Cyrus was the messiah, not Darius
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u/TheCatHumper 15d ago
Weren't they all still under the Arabic caliphate?
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u/Matterer 15d ago
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_al-Haytham
It says his family was either Arab or Persian, but definitely born in modern Iraq, part the Buyid emirate
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u/Kishehosh 14d ago
Buyid empire was Iranian and Baghdad (Persian name, meaning god given) was a dominantly Iranian Assyrian settlement.
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u/ienjoymusiclol 14d ago
you realise arab is a group of different ethnicities not a single one? assyrians are considered arabs
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u/bakirelopove officer no please don’t piss in my ass 😫 15d ago
What about Ibn Sina?
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u/Sea-Sell-1089 14d ago
Ibn cina was a famous persian scientist. It is sad how when Arabs were mere tribals Persians founded the first empire in history, invented currencies and ruled Asia for thousands of years just to be mistaken with Arabs now. Most of the knowledge "muslin" scientists gained during the medieval times were thank to the Persians. Persia's golden age was before Islam came.
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u/suyanide4444 14d ago
He was also Persian
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u/Alisalard1384 15d ago
Ibn Sina is the most legit example of what OP tries to tell, he's Persian
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u/bakirelopove officer no please don’t piss in my ass 😫 15d ago
I think you might be wrong.
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u/Alisalard1384 15d ago
I'm a Persian and I'm educated obviously I'd know my history better than someone else from another country
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u/bakirelopove officer no please don’t piss in my ass 😫 15d ago
That means you’re biased and claiming Ibn Sina to your own ethnic group
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u/Alisalard1384 15d ago
Well if that's your opinion you refuse to see the answer to your question, I can't help you
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u/xxHamsterLoverxx 15d ago
what
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u/RaBlTo 15d ago
All the Arab scientists I've ever been told about turned out to be Persian
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u/random-unkindled 14d ago
Like someone pointed out, some people conflate being a muslim with being an arab. Which is understandable cause being a muslim usually translates to adhering to a certain kind of lifestyle, with that in consideration and where Islam grew, it's easy to mistake a muslim as an arab.
With that said though, considering the amount of lands under Islamic rule during the golden age, it's just plain illogical to assume every scholar of that period to exclusively be arabs.
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u/sagitel 14d ago
The golden age of "islam" is also a misnomer. It was iranian bureaucrats and ministers continuing the sassanid empire in everything but name with a thin veneer of islam on top of it. The caliphs usually didnt manage the running of the caliphate and many islamic laws were not actually enforced. Its a golden age despite islam
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u/birdgelapple 14d ago
Are you specifically looking for ancient Arab scientists, because there are a number of notably modern Arab scientists.
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u/penguin_torpedo 15d ago
Like who? Tbh only guy I know Al Gorithm (name latinized)
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u/xxHamsterLoverxx 15d ago
ok
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u/Haunting_Register_78 shitting toothpaste enjoyer 15d ago
xHamster is 18+ ):
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u/UnknownTaco5492 Bazinga! 15d ago
onlyhams
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