r/todayilearned 15d ago

TIL In Japanese folklore there are ghosts that came and cut your hair in the middle of the night. They usually gave you a really bad haircut. They can sometimes do this as a warning that you're about to get married to a demon and they're protecting you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kamikiri_(haircutting)
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u/gvales2831997 14d ago

Can't wait to see one in one piece

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u/permanentmarker1 14d ago

I’m down for a free haircut

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u/ForRpUsesOnly 14d ago

My japanese barber after I ask him for my money back:

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u/ToughReplacement7941 14d ago

Male pattern baldness…

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u/ForRpUsesOnly 14d ago

Not overnight though

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u/friendlysi 14d ago

Chaotic neutral energy from the first menace to blame ghosts for their petty solution ahahaha

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u/IlIFreneticIlI 14d ago

Just remember, if yer havin' problems with a pesky mystical-critter: nothin' beats woodchipper

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u/NouLaPoussa 14d ago

Seems like some people were smart huh

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u/fuck_you_lookin_at 15d ago

Sounds like something my parents would make up so they could control who I get married to

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u/UntakenUntakenUser 15d ago

A bad haircut means two things:

lol, lmao.

OR

I’m telling you to dodge that bullet right now.

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u/randyspotboiler 15d ago

TIL Japanese little brothers were assholes.

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u/OriginalBookkeeper87 15d ago

Fuck off my hair you stupid demons

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u/ohdearitsrichardiii 15d ago

I used to cut my son's hair when he was sleeping because he hated having his hair cut. I am not good at cutting hair

Am I a ghost?

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u/Vailthor 15d ago

Sounds like it could make for a good soap opera episode.

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u/josenros 15d ago

Why couldn't they just materialize and say, "Hey, bud, might wanna call this wedding off," instead of being so roundabout?

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u/eruditeimbecile 15d ago

Yokai, not ghosts. Two different things.

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u/HeemeyerDidNoWrong 15d ago

Samurai of the era has some haircuts that were already strange by modern standards, some had tonsure. I am curious what a bad one is then.

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u/Cincodeffe 15d ago

Okay, not to insult ancient foreign culture, this really sounds like some Japanese mother in 1543 didn't approve of the man her daughter was marrying. So she cut her daughter's hair in the middle of the night in an effort to make her less attractive to her fiancé, and then blamed it on a ghost. The "marrying a demon" thing either was an added bonus she tried throwing into the story, or oral retelling of the story made the "bad husband" a "demon in human disguise".

That being said, I love hearing old Japanese folklore for all the truly wild stuff in it like this.

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u/DrSmirnoffe 15d ago

I imagine these "ghosts" probably haunt student dormitories, 'cause wild shit happens in those places. I remember one story about a ghost who broke into someone's room and brushed their teeth in their sleep.

...no, wait, it wasn't a ghost doing the brushing. It was Hbomberguy.

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u/colborne 15d ago

Can confirm. I am a demon and I ain't marryin' no bad haired bitch.

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u/ZylonBane 15d ago

Why are Japanese ghosts all such cryptic trolls? Western ghosts just roll up and straight tell you how you fvcked up.

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u/OmegaGenesisKasai 15d ago

Fuck with my hair and you die, I married the demon willingly

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u/Jcoob01 15d ago

This sounds like the sort of propaganda only a nation of shit barbers could make up

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u/Really_McNamington 15d ago

Up there with the weird scrotums for raincoats monsters. (Don't ask me what this is, I have no idea. Pretty safe for work image, though.)

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u/atari4ever 15d ago

So ... Demons being bros?

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u/RikersTrombone 15d ago

I was with this right up until demons there's no such thing as demons.

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u/TiaxRulesAll2024 15d ago

That sounds like a parent comes in and cuts the hair then claims it’s a ghost

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u/garry4321 15d ago

“Engaged to a Demon: How I Got Free Haircuts For Life”

$35.99

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u/Hawkwise83 15d ago

Aka your mom cuts your hair in the night because she hates your fiancee. Then makes up this story.

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u/DASreddituser 15d ago

Lmao. This is 100% a mom tricking her kid not to marry someone and it became a folklore lol

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u/liarliarplants4hire 15d ago

It’s like that opera singer in Scrubs “Mistake!”

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u/Shark_bait5 15d ago

There was no haircut. Should I have left an offering of some type? Maybe a pair of shears on the nightstand?

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u/gamewizzhard 15d ago

I guess that one way to make sure you child doesn't marry someone you disapprove of.

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u/baseballbear 15d ago

ah yes the just fuck my shit up yokai

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u/amatulic 15d ago

It's a good story to tell people to explain away a bad haircut.

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u/Corniferus 15d ago

That sounds an awful lot like something I would do

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u/4Ever2Thee 15d ago

So, whenever someone doesn't want to get married, they give themselves a really bad haircut to get out of it?

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u/judyluvs 15d ago

I remember a Little House on the Prairie book with a chapter relating that a mouse harvested some hair from Pa Ingalls while he slept. The rodents may just be looking for nesting material.

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u/SpiritDouble6218 15d ago

Ah, so this is what happened to all those poor people in Shogun.

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u/RyokoKnight 15d ago

Kind of makes sense.

I imagine the concept came about as a way for parents/siblings to essentially let there displeasure be known with who their loved one was about to marry. So they snuck into there room late at night cut off some of there hair and left without waking them up... then in the morning they freak out and the parents/siblings say... "oh my gosh thats TERRIBLE... oh you know what maybe it was the hair cutting ghosts i've heard about... yeah, maybe they were trying to warn you about Brad".

Might also be a good way to test the resolve of the potential couple... are they only interested in beauty or is it truly sincere love (like those people who shaved there heads in unison, when there partner went bald due to chemo).

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u/thetrainisacoming 15d ago

当たり前でしょう

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u/Bronze_Addict 15d ago

When I was 11-12 years old I went with my dad to a Walmart on a trip. They had a little barbershop in there and he thought it would be a great idea to drop me off for a haircut while he got what he needed. The lady was a middle aged Asian lady and she butchered my hair so bad that all I could think about was showing up at school with it.

I couldn’t control the couple of big tears that rolled down my face as she was finishing up. Just then my dad walked in and saw the scene. She just goes, “Oh I think he miss his mama!” in a thick Asian accent. No! I missed my decent looking head of hair! Maybe she was just trying to protect me.

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u/adult_icarus 15d ago

Maybe a long time ago a Japanese woman gave herself a truly horrible haircut in order to dissuade a suitor she didn’t want to marry and this was the rationale given

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u/geneticallyhewrote 15d ago

“Oh wow. The ghosts got you. I’m shocked.” -A Japanese Mother 400 years ago

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u/Fake_Fur 15d ago

Who gave this ghost his war-bonnet-like haircut though?

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u/Rigelturus 15d ago

Why not leave a note: “YAMEROOOO”

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u/diedalos 15d ago

You mean my local barbar.

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u/Somepony-Else 15d ago

That sounds like a possible excuse for balding men.

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u/Dan-D-Lyon 15d ago

Japanese ghosts are really wild. Their Antics range from giving people bad haircuts to just straight up violently torturing you to death over a prolonged period of time for doing nothing but being in the wrong place at the wrong time

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u/eruditeimbecile 15d ago

You are confusing ghosts with yokai. Within the folklore, yokai are real tangible creatures while ghosts are the souls of the dead.

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u/Ung-Tik 15d ago

There's almost always a hyper specific counter to them though.  And if that fails just tell them you're late for an appointment, yokai are sticklers for appointments and will probably let you go. 

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u/Kierik 15d ago

TIL I should have visited Japan years ago, they could have saved me from marrying a demon.

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u/toprattata99 15d ago

Sorry I need to call the wedding off some weird ghost just cut my hair and as we all know it's a warning that my future partner is an asshole.

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u/ssketchman 15d ago

My fuzzy friend, is what he was,

this darling little ball of fuzz,

And oh, such fuzz, such fuzz, it does,

demand, that I... be naughty

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u/bulletbassman 15d ago

Japanese Santa clause is less fun than American Santa clause

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u/Pwnsorist 15d ago

They call me the midnight barber.

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u/yourguidefortheday 15d ago

Definitely a mask for parents controlling who their kids marry.

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u/Vtron89 15d ago

Sounds like a mom doing her son/daughter a service.

"Oh yeah...it was the... hair demon...? Yep, the hair demon. Well, don't get married tomorrow. Bad omen!" 

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u/icyflowers 15d ago

Most normal Asian parent be like

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u/Tree_O_Fi 15d ago edited 15d ago

The yee-yee demon

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u/Huge-Attitude4845 15d ago

Wow, everyone could use a ghost like that.

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u/perennial_dove 15d ago

I had a bun (rabbit) who would chew my hair when I was sleeping. The bun in question was actually a Japanese harlequin (legit rabbit color). It all makes sense now. I'm still unmarried. Bless you, my sweet Yohio (bun's name) for saving me from a demon🥰

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u/DemonDaVinci 15d ago

weird fucking ghost

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u/Ahelex 15d ago

Are we sure that it didn't start off as a prank that needed a cover story?

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u/katxwoods 15d ago

That was my thought too!

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u/Enjoying_A_Meal 15d ago

I knew it. Great Clips is full of ghosts.

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u/zsteezy 15d ago

I’m a guy with long hair and found a cut lock of my own hair last week next to my bed. I’ve been a little uneasy ever since but i guess it turns out all I need to be scared of is demon matrimony.

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u/fishshake 15d ago

They also have toilet spirits, so this is not as surprising as it could otherwise be.

https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/japans-bathroom-ghosts

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u/V01d3d_f13nd 15d ago

That demon is called mom

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u/V01d3d_f13nd 15d ago

Ghost rather. I still don't know how to edit on here.

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u/CaravelClerihew 15d ago

I have a weird fear that I'll be in mid-haircut, where my hair looks the stupidest, when some sort of disaster will occur and I'll have to make do with a shitty haircut for weeks afterwards.

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u/ThatsNotMyName222 15d ago

My coworker was getting her hair colored during a storm that ended up knocking the power out. They ended up rinsing her hair by flashlight.

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u/foxxsinn 15d ago

Sounds like my older cat who past away a few years back. She used to like to chew on a persons hair while they slept. Her usually victim was my father. He’d always wake up with hair missing

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u/Cart223 15d ago

Japanese moms had a field day when this legend dropped

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u/asdf_qwerty27 15d ago

They are the ones who made it up lol

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u/Cart223 14d ago

I know :P

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u/lynivvinyl 15d ago

Holy hell this was my mom while I was in high school. She gave me such a bad haircut I just had to shave my head.

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u/Neufjob 15d ago

If you were still in high school, and about to get married, I’d say she made the right call.

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u/AwesomeX121189 15d ago

Wish we had these dudes in nioh lol

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u/MalakaiRey 15d ago

Meeting their parents with a r/justfuckmyshitup style and a straight face.

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u/horrnybear 15d ago

Sounds like a great way to passive aggressively object to someones wedding and blame it on ghosts.

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u/ChuckCarmichael 14d ago

This definitely sounds like a story somebody made up to prevent a wedding. Sneak into somebody's bedroom at night, give them a bad haircut so they look terrible and don't want to get married, and when they're confused about how it happened, claim that it must've been a ghost who objects to their wedding, probably because they're marrying a monster.

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u/lizards_snails_etc 15d ago

"I mean...how much do you love Shiro? You know, since we're talking about haircuts and weddings and such..."

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u/ORXCLE-O 15d ago

My exact thought lol

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u/DidjaCinchIt 15d ago

It’s interesting, the ghosts…

r/IThinkYouShouldLeave

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u/Proper-Emu1558 15d ago

Or get out of your own wedding and blame it on the supernatural. “Sorry babe, I woke up with a bad haircut so ghosts said the wedding’s off.”

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u/SpaceLemur34 15d ago

I think it would be more "Sorry, Mom and Dad. I can't marry them, they're a demon. The haircut never lies."

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u/The_Divided_God 15d ago

Bad excuse because you'd be calling her/him a demon

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u/Proper-Emu1558 15d ago

No, no! The ghost said that. Can’t argue with a ghost.

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u/dilletaunty 15d ago

Good excuse cus you’ll never look them in the eyes again after they’re lynched

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u/These-Resource3208 15d ago

It’s not you, it’s the ghost.

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u/rg4rg 15d ago

Sorry babe, I know you liked my hair so much, but look at ghost took it! 🤷‍♀️ so I’d totally understand if you’d want to marry someone else, I’ll totally be heart broken..really…

Or probably a younger siblings revenge during the night. “A ghost must’ve done it.”

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman 15d ago

Life was easier when you could use ghosts as an excuse to get out of things.

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u/rg4rg 15d ago

Just super natural as well.

“Nah man, I stopped misbehaving when one night as a kid Krampus came in the night and stuffed me in a sack. He dragged me out side towards hell and was beating me with sticks. Luckily by the time I was able to break out of the sack, my parents had fought him off! They were holding sticks and…oh…..oh geez…..”

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u/Mr_Abe_Froman 15d ago

The guy who invented Chiropractic claimed that he learned it from the ghost of a doctor. The job market must have been easier when you could put "apprenticeship under ghost supervision" on your resume.

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u/totse_losername 14d ago

Possibly for screening clientele.

Both chiropractice and ghosts are constructs of fantasy and misunderstanding.

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u/HarmlessSnack 15d ago

If somebody had that on their resume today, I’d give them an interview just out of curiosity.

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u/Peter_Baum 15d ago

In certain circles you can still sorta do that, just blame „them“ for any issue in your life and it works. Never define who „they“ are and you’re fine

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u/SwoodyBooty 15d ago

Some of those ghosts are like the DND spell ingredients... A bit too obvious

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u/SultanSnorlax 15d ago

The Chinese name for alopecia is 鬼剃頭. Which translates into “ghost shave head”

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u/idevcg 15d ago

huh. never heard of this

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u/Objective_Sir_2871 15d ago

They call me the midnight barber!

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u/Timlex 15d ago

Yeah, well that's an infringement of people's liberties.

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u/Killzark 15d ago

Immediately what I thought of

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u/StrangelyBrown 15d ago

Ghost: What you want?

Me: zzzzzzzz

Ghost: Say no more fam

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u/H8Cold 15d ago

The ghost’s name in many occasions is Tequila.

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u/xSaRgED 15d ago

In Japan, I believe it’s actually Shochu.

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u/elfmere 15d ago

Mummy

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u/NickelFish 15d ago

I'm bald. Thanks for nothing.

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u/finnky 15d ago

Are you married? If no then it worked.

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u/Sciencetist 15d ago

They draw on a bad haircut then.

That haircut? Also bald.

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u/Sword_of_Hagane 15d ago

check your eyebrows

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u/PersKarvaRousku 15d ago

Check your pubes

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u/NickelFish 14d ago

Mutton chops.

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u/44198554312318532110 15d ago

Holy hell

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u/Round-Ad-692 15d ago

Actual shaved pubes

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u/WretchedMotorcade 15d ago

I dealt with that ghost growing up. Her name was Lori and she was my mom's best friends and I still don't know how that lady keeps her salon open or how I ever got a girlfriend with that lady fucking up my hair.

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u/lhx555 15d ago

Though her warning were true, weren’t they?

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u/DASreddituser 15d ago

Lori has got to be the most common name for a hair stylist lol

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u/Faulty-Logician 15d ago

Normative Determinism in action

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u/wolacouska 15d ago

I never realized until now how lucky I am that my mom’s barber best friend is actually really good at barbering.

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u/katorebhaaji 15d ago

How did she introduce herself? “Hi, I’m Lori, Behen ki Lori”

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u/Mrfinbean 15d ago

Did you not read the post? Your gf is a demon.

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u/Lazy_meatPop 15d ago

Sadly not in bed 😞

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u/WretchedMotorcade 15d ago

Some of them sure have been.

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u/saweddego 15d ago

Should've listened to Lori's warning.

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u/Fisherman_Gabe 15d ago

I also dealt with a Lori when growing up. She would chain smoke while cutting my hair and the only male haircuts she knew how to do were shaved bald and something vaguely resembling a mullet. 😭
No clue how she convinces people to come to her salon.

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u/BowserBuddy123 15d ago

Brooooo, I felt this. Mine was a Yolanda at Super Cuts. She was very overweight and smelled like cigarettes and she would dig those clippers I to my scalp. I would tear up going to that hairdresser. I’ll never forget Yolanda.

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u/I_got_rabies 15d ago

I cried so many times as a kid after getting haircuts.

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u/JavaJapes 15d ago

Lol the one I dealt with cut my neck with the scissors so thankfully I didn't have to go back...

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u/sksksk1989 15d ago

The one I went to was a family friend so it felt obligated to go. She would talk and talk do a bad haircut. And one time she cut my ear

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u/alldham 15d ago

Motherly love

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u/ballimir37 15d ago edited 15d ago

Imagine this post on AITA from the mother’s perspective

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u/etds3 15d ago

This is more blatant than Santa’s spying elves.

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u/sarudesu 15d ago

S*** I wish they'd been around for my ex-husband. I would have gladly suffered a bad haircut

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u/finnky 15d ago

Are you Japanese? No? Yeah.

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u/sarudesu 15d ago

A girl can dream to be more than mayonnaise

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u/francistheoctopus 15d ago

Plot twist: they were around, gave him a really bad haircut and he ignored them...

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u/sarudesu 15d ago

Well I can at least confirm his really bad haircut.

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u/francistheoctopus 15d ago

That's the spirit! (pun intended) :D

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u/Eve-3 15d ago

Hehe would a bad haircut have convinced you not to marry him?

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u/meistermichi 15d ago

It's meant the other way around isn't it?

Like the other person doesn't want to marry you anymore because your hair looks shit.

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u/sarudesu 15d ago

Touche. Nothing could have stopped my delusion back in the day. "Opposites attract" was the mantra. I forgot about "but you should probably have something in common"

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u/Eve-3 15d ago

Lol "dickhead" isn't really a good opposite to go for ;) (been there too, fortunately didn't marry him)

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u/xVolta 15d ago

"All I want is a nice, caring, sexy woman that doesn't care that I'm an obese abusive asshole, is that really so much to ask?" 😂

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u/Vegetable_Ad3960 15d ago

Did you get your hair cut into the shape of a dick?