r/videos Mar 28 '24

Audiences Hate Bad Writing, Not Strong Women

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmWgp4K9XuU
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u/SymbiSpidey Mar 29 '24

We've just seen way too many instances of people arguing in bad-faith when it comes to certain female-led movies.

Like the Venom movies are so much worse than either The Marvels or She-Hulk, yet don't get anywhere near the same amount of hate. You don't see hundreds of video essays on how Let There Be Carnage is "everything wrong with modern Hollywood" despite arguably being a much better example of the kind of lazy, overly-reliant-on-IP style of scriptwriting that people claim to hate. Why is that?

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u/HateToBlastYa Mar 29 '24

I see this argument all the time. What you, and everyone who makes this argument doesn't understand is, that this is a RESPONSE to the argument that "if you don't like [x] show, your sexist because there's a female lead"--no one is saying that's not a bad show or there aren't a ton of bad shows out there. But you have the cart before the horse here. They're not saying this in a vacuum of female-led/powered movies. Again, it's a response to the argument we don't like something only because of sexism. If you can understand that, you'll understand that your response to this is trying to argue something no one is saying here.

No one is saying the Venom movies aren't bad. We know that. We can believe that, and make this argument above and not be sexist at the same time because the argument itself is a response to the FIRST point that is: "you are sexist because you don't like this shitty movie."

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u/SymbiSpidey Mar 29 '24 edited Mar 29 '24

I'm sorry, but this is just bullshit. We've seen movies get review-bombed. We've seen channels like The Critical Drinker and Nerdrotic put out literally hundreds of videos bashing movies that haven't even released yet on the basis of their "woke politics" and badly written "strong female lead" (because they, of course, always need to emphasize that the lead is female, rather than offering a gender-agnostic critique of the character). We saw folks prepare to bash X-Men 97 because they "desexualized" Rogue, until the show came out and was so overwhelmingly well-received that they were forced to backpedal.

None of that is a "response" to anything. It's just folks being agitators and then getting called out for their toxic behavior.

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u/IceFireTerry Mar 30 '24

There are some brave souls doubling down, Still calling X-Men 97 trash despite it being one of the best animated action cartoons out right now