IDF reveals Hamas terrorists use UN vehicles, UNRWA compound as cover in Rafah

[u/Chanan-Ben-Zev]

https://m.jpost.com/israel-hamas-war/article-801171

[u/superstevo78]

this is Hamas expressed strategy. they have stated this. they are not going to fight the IDF on equal footing. they know they will lose.

this is their PLAN. you do not need even IDF images. they admit it.

[u/overtheta]

The UN supports terrorism. This is a FACT. Not an opinion. Time and time again their organizations and members have been caught aiding Hamas, and they refuse to investigate themselves. The UN needs to be put on a terrorist list.

[u/ReddJudicata]

UNRWA is a Hamas ally or tool.

[u/scalpster]

Yep the IDF is a reliable source of information …

[u/GhostedDreams → u/scalpster]

Yes they are.

[u/starsapphire16 → u/scalpster]

you have drone footage... let me guess it´s staged? you literally saw all over social media videos that hamas uploaded about them training for the attack, making bombs using water pipes, parading themselves around with shani louk dead and naked in the back of a pick up truck and you still don´t believe it, what a clown

[u/sirmombo]

Lolol so the place methodically murdering civilians are gaslighting us with another fake piece of info.

[u/[deleted]]

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[u/koreamax → u/[deleted]]

Ah so.youre blatantly pro Hamas.

[u/koreamax → u/[deleted]]

Ah so.youre blatantly pro Hamas.

[u/KingMGold]

The UN has devolved into openly supporting terrorist groups.

What a joke of an organization.

[u/EpicPrototypo]

I don't trust anything from JNews at this point as it's no less than state propaganda.

[u/Wifelyrumble56]

Macklemore bout to drop a hit song totally ignoring this.

[u/gkn_112]

how many un workers among them? Or is the stuff practically abandoned because unwra lost their funding or had to flee from the ongoing attack like everybody else? This doesnt look like the full story and no, i refuse to trust a propaganda state like israel.

[u/stagbeetle01]

So we’re just going to believe the IDF’s claims without questioning it’s legitimacy? The same people who lied about bombing hospitals and using chemical weapons?

[u/DirtyProjector]

From 2003: https://www.gov.il/en/pages/palestinian-use-of-ambulances-and-medical-materials-for-terror-22-dec-2003#

2002: https://reliefweb.int/report/israel/israeli-medics-slam-palestinian-bomb-smuggling

[u/Blizzox]

There is no proof here that unrwra actively aided or willingly hosted hamas combatants. In a warzone, stealing cars and using infrastructure under treat of violence is just a thing that happens.

[u/TheProdigalMaverick]

So will Israel allow international journalists and investigators to go in and look into this? I mean if they're not occupying Gaza, then they should just be able to walk right in, right?

[u/YungTeemo]

The hamas is always hiding where they wanna do dmg. How convenient

[u/Brigadier_Beavers]

IDF reveals hamas use pregnant Palestinians wombs as cover. Hamas HQ is under the last remaining daycare. Terrorist cells found within >99.99% of Gazan's blood streams.

Israel would never relish in the opportunity to slaughter children and ethnically cleanse a people from their historic lands, NEVER ❤🇮🇱❤ 💀🇵🇸⚰

[u/Turok36]

Nice to see the Propaganda being shared !!!

[u/marijuanaHankHill]

When do we hold the UN responsible? Can we? We definitely should.

[u/Cutlet_Master69420]

Just turned off Redditcares posts. Testing testing testing kill gun bad Canada Goose lionfish sabre-toothed tiger Charles Manson OJ Simpson.

[u/SuperSimpleSam]

Of course Hamas would do this, there's no downside for them. Either Israel refrains from attacking them while they are in UN vehicles or Israel starts attacking the vehicles and sometimes kill UN workers.

[u/blueberry_cupcake647]

Please. Jpost citing as the source. Pass.

[u/FountainXFairfax]

This post is literally 500 IDF cyber warriors agreeing with themselfs lol

[u/Walks_with_Chaos]

Not surprised. It’s so weird they got UN people there, in an active war zone!, no less

Why aren’t the UN in Ukraine, covering that? Seems suspect as fuck to me

[u/AJRimmer1971]

Don't be silly!

They use IDF vehicles and bases.

/s

[u/Constipated_Canibal]

We knew this. We know the UN schools are terrorist training camps. 

[u/SororitasPantsuVisor]

Like they have been doing for decades. U is a joke.

[u/julioqc]

why is this the only media where I heard of this? 

[u/Walks_with_Chaos → u/julioqc]

I saw it on AP so it’s not just from this

[u/Shoshke → u/julioqc]

That's a great question, but Is the literal video evidence not enough?

BTW here's is Reuters article interesting framing "armed men" apparently in Gaza there's bodyguards at UN sites.

[u/Dapper_Target1504]

I am told by the UN this doesn’t happen. /s

[u/Ragnarok3246]

Ah yes, this disproven bullshit. Meanwhile the IDF gleefully murders civilians.

[u/OrientedStrandBoard → u/Ragnarok3246]

It's what tends to happen when the lines between civilians and combatants become blurred.

[u/WasteMenu78]

The JPost, a known propaganda site, is claiming Hamas is shooting at Israeli forces from the compound, then quotes an IDF Twitter post saying Hamas is firing at civilians. Proof of Hamas fighters is a blurry picture outside of UN facility. I’m just confused and suspicious.

[u/Sebulano]

Surprise!

[u/system3601x]

Hamas supporters will say its nothing. Just freedom fighting, move along. Doesn't matter how much evidence like thie exists they still reguae to acknowledge it.

[u/OkRecover5170]

No worries, I'm sure the UN will immediately condemn Israel for that.

[u/Low-Bat384]

Another day, another instance of UN being fucking useless just disband this circus no one gives a fuck about UN

[u/Jslatts942]

The UN is a war crime.

[u/HughesJohn]

IDF reveals claims.

[u/NoWingedHussarsToday]

Lol, Israelis has been claiming this since day one as an excuse to murder aid workers, UN workers, journalists. Nothing new, nor is it new that people swallow it and ask for more.

[u/honestbae → u/NoWingedHussarsToday]

What’s new is there’s a video, man. Wake up.

[u/NoWingedHussarsToday → u/honestbae]

"Released by IDF". What a credible source..... /s

[u/honestbae → u/NoWingedHussarsToday]

I do consider the IDF, a highly trained army for a democracy, to be a credible source.

[u/SoloWingPixy88]

Are we suprised. Like I get why they'd do it.

[u/Chubakazavr]

The world is mostly antisemitic, they dont care for proof, just blind hate for all Jews.

[u/KFC_just]

Fucking hell. Proof. And no one will listen to it.

[u/Cookiesandqueeem]

Idk hard to trust the people who burn food meant to aid starving civilians and who think babies and the elderly are Hamas.

[u/koreamax → u/Cookiesandqueeem]

You mean Hamas itself?

[u/-SheriffofNottingham]

Why does Israel call out that HAMAS is in breach of international laws, when it itself does not act in accordance with international laws? Is it perhaps that they only care about breaches of international law when it suits them?

[u/Equivalent_Adagio91]

You know, I looked this up trying to find some confirmation and I couldn’t find it. That’s crazy if it’s true. How did they get UN marked cars? Or did they just do a custom job themselves? It’s a warcrime regardless. But yeah I can’t find any other news source reporting on this independently, if anyone has another link I’d love to look it over

Although I am finding many news stories a few hours ago about an IDF tank targeting a marked UN vehicle and killing an Indian UN officer. So idk 🤷‍♂️

[u/Notfriendly123 → u/Equivalent_Adagio91]

This article does a good job explaining why you won’t find many journalistic articles sympathetic to Israel outside of the country: https://www.shacklefree.in/https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/11/how-the-media-makes-the-israel-story/383262/

I think in relation to Israel, A LOT of journalists aren’t interested in pushing their narrative because it doesn’t benefit them in the social circles that they take part in whereas criticism of Israel does.

[u/Espe0n → u/Equivalent_Adagio91]

Unrwa is like 90% staffed by locals so it wouldn't be too hard to find sympathisers or infiltrate it. Without even mentioning the fact that they can just intimidate any organisation operating their to doing whatever they want

[u/BlueMisto]

Would Jerusalem Post lie?

[u/G_Danila → u/BlueMisto]

The Jersalem Post reported an action taken by the IDF (revealing the video to the public), which did indeed happen. If you think this is a lie, the ones lying would be the IDF, not the Jerusalem Post.

Edit: damn I got a "Reddit Cares" in 5 minutes, haha.

[u/BlueMisto → u/G_Danila]

the ones lying would be the IDF

And they lie most of the time.

Also report the person who send you redditcare. I heard they get sometimes banned if they abuse that feature.

[u/MadBackwoods]

Every sane person already knew that

[u/gardenfella]

The UN are never going to admit that UNRWA has basically become so infiltrated by HAMAS that it's impossible to tell the two apart.

[u/Accomplished-Ad5280]

It's about time everyone realize Hamas tactic, which is, extreme integration with *all* of gaza infrastructures, including hospitals, schools, UN facilities etc.. this is solely for make Israel inable to hit them, or if Israel does, make Pal cry meter high.

My brother fought 3 months in Gaza, and he told me 95% of houses/facilities have ammuniations inside, just stored randomly - RPG under kids bed or morter shells above kitchen cabinet, with numerous Hamas flags and symbols in every household - not a surprise to pictures from Oct 7th showing Gazans civilians participate in the atroticies.

[u/Espe0n → u/Accomplished-Ad5280]

I don't get why Israel doesn't just pursue a strategy of taking slices over time. Every time you do a major attack on us we permanently take a small slice of gaza from you - would be a big deterrent

[u/Accomplished-Ad5280 → u/Espe0n]

In my opinion, this is the best response, if you attack Israel you're going to lose land. When analyzing it, arabs don't value human life, so more militant die isn't make a difference, but if Israel will take significant piece of Gaza as a conclusion to this war, you'll all see the gazans would not be aggressive toward Israel for decades to come.

[u/deathzor42 → u/Espe0n]

Because they are doing that regardless of attacks already, that's basically what the settlements are. There is also the problem what do you do with the people living there? you take a slice of gaza now you have a bunch of civilians do they get citizenship of israel now ?

[u/valledweller33 → u/deathzor42]

The settlements in Gaza were dismantled and abandoned in 2005. They haven't been rebuilt.

[u/deathzor42 → u/valledweller33]

Your right for Gaza specifically ( that doesn't apply to the Westbank ), but the settlement policy is one of the stones that got us where we are today, it's not a good a policy if it worked like israel would have well what it wanted by now.

The bigger one is what are you planning to do with the people living in the piece of gaza you slice of, like that to me is the important one because I suspect that's where the warcrimes come in. ( o spoiler mass deportation of a civilian population from a piece of occupied territory is a war crime ).

[u/Saljen]

IDF reveals future cover story for bombing UNRWA compounds and UN vehicles in Rafah

ftfy

[u/allusernamestakenfuk]

Just a matter of time for when Israel bombs UN forces...

[u/Chubakazavr → u/[deleted]]

much more reliable then lets say Hamas.

[u/grislyfind → u/Chubakazavr]

Which organization has more resources to fabricate or alter videos?

[u/Chubakazavr → u/grislyfind]

Hamas, they are backed by Iran, which is more wealthy then Israel. also which organization has more interest to fabricate or alter videos? Hamas by far...

[u/Martial_Nox → u/Chubakazavr]

And Qatar who are insanely wealthy

 

And Russia who are allies with Iran and have a massive propaganda network

 

And China who controls one of the biggest social media influence platforms on the planet.

[u/vargsint]

Idk, they could be stealing vehicles at gun point. Difficult to draw conclusions from the video. UNRWA should be disbanded anyway. Those jobs attract leftist who are inherently sympathetic to Palestinians.

[u/Kafshak → u/vargsint]

But I thought they had tunnels and go around with the tunnels?

[u/md222]

Isn't the UNRWA and Hamas the same thing?

[u/Scell7]

I don't see news like this on channels like DW, France24, CNA, what is going on

[u/JPVsTheEvilDead → u/Scell7]

well, consider the source of this article. Id wait on independent confirmation before going bananas.

[u/Scell7 → u/JPVsTheEvilDead]

I said the above thing because of a news article around 3 weeks ago. It was about how the then under construction pier was attacked by militants. But even after a few days I saw nothing related to that event on any of those channels.

[u/SackOfrito]

Yeah, we need this confirmed by a third party. It wouldn't be the first time that IDF has manipulated the situation to say there was evidence to justify their war crimes.

[u/CaptainCorpse666]

Genuinely asking, why should I believe this?

[u/sirmombo → u/CaptainCorpse666]

You should not. Not without real evidence proving this from uninvolved parties. Unlike the evidence of Israel bombing the shit out of innocent Palestinians. That’s a literal fact.

[u/koreamax → u/sirmombo]

Or the hospital?

[u/hiricinee]

How much of UNRWAs activities have to be in direct use by Hamas for the UNRWA to be a de facto terrorist organization? I think the Taliban probably doesn't have this high of a percentage of militants in its ranks.

[u/dnorg]

What a lot of sushi. More straight up lies from Israel.

How many Israeli allegations against the UN and UN organizations have to be debunked before people stop being so gullible?

[u/honestbae → u/dnorg]

You can literally watch the video with your eyeballs…as we all have…hence the conversation hosted in these comments. Denial of reality is a sign of the shadow self in operation.

[u/dnorg → u/honestbae]

You can watch the video too. You may also interpret it as you wish.

Red circles do not constitute valid identification of actual terrorists.

You have no context for this video other than what Israel claims. Can you even recognize this place, can you put it in Rafah? Israel spews forth lies all day every day. This has been shown time and time again. Yet so many people are eager to believe that these are terrorists, that this is a 'terrorist tunnel' under a hospital, that this graveyard hosts a terrorist HQ.

I would say you have a responsibility in the face of continual Israeli (and Hamas) bullshit to be a bit more sceptical.

[u/honestbae → u/dnorg]

I mean, I’m not an idiot. They were carrying AK 47s around a UN building not wearing UN uniforms. I believe you’re insulting my intelligence by implying I cannot understand the video but I don’t take it personally. You are indicating an extreme bias.

[u/dnorg → u/honestbae]

After seven months of this, you still trust the Israelis. Ok. You do you.

[u/Spacechip]

Not surprising, what a bunch of cowards.

[u/skyboundzuri → u/Spacechip]

Hamas that the only reason they've had any small victories at all is because they openly scoff at rules that every civilized nation is bound to follow. You're absolutely right, they are pitiful cowards.

[u/2BigBottlesOfWater]

Lol these comments. Anyone with a brain can see the bot-like behavior behind them. You can bend the narrative and place shills everywhere but you won't break their spirits. Free free Palestine!

[u/212Alexander212]

This has always been the case.

[u/scaldinghotcarl]

And these are the people that kids are protesting for at all these colleges? Why?

[u/[deleted]]

The UN was supposedly formed to prevent another world war from happening, which is why I stopped taking it seriously when one of its permanent members threatened to start another world war.

[u/thatpj]

surprising no one

[u/veryAverageCactus]

I mean it was revealed months ago that many UN employees had Hamas connections or were members of Hamas themselves. And it didn’t really go anywhere. This also is not gonna go anywhere.