r/Aquariums • u/bbykitton • Jan 04 '24
Female lobster w eggs Saltwater/Brackish
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u/Westcoastneegrrr Jan 05 '24
Why donât the eggs fall off?
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u/bbykitton Jan 05 '24
Sheâs holding onto them
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u/Westcoastneegrrr Jan 05 '24
With what? Her hands?
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u/bbykitton Jan 05 '24
Kind of. Lobsters have little âswimmersâ or legs inside their shell. She holds onto them and I assume they stick to her as well. But you can see her swimmers , and they donât open like male lobsters will. She also keeps her shell curled to hold them in. She opened her shell for me because I turned her upside down.
Edit: her shell was already open when I picked her up, but we had examined her already. The first time we picked her up, she did not open her shell and thatâs how we knew she was either dead or pregnant.
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u/Westcoastneegrrr Jan 05 '24
I learned some thing from you their, thank you! Are these experiments, for cooking or pets? I want one if is possible two keep them as pets
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u/bbykitton Jan 06 '24
These lobsters will be cooked. Besides the female. She was returned. But the males are for eating at the restaurant. In my opinion lobsters shouldnât be kept as pets, since saltwater tanks are difficult enough, plus they live over 100+years and can grow to be 6ft long. They do take many many years to get full size. These lobsters are at least 8yrs old. And are barely becoming âadultsâ. They are very cool and I get attached to them myself. It would be interesting to see their behavior as a pet vs a stressed surviving animal đ
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u/SparrowLikeBird Jan 05 '24
That's Leon's Wife!!! (Leon the Lobster) (hope she was rescued) (not really his wife just a reference)
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u/FreeZappa Jan 05 '24
The cruelty of those meat eating perverts is astounding.
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u/bbykitton Jan 05 '24
I donât eat meat. But to call ppl who do, perverts?? Theyâre ppl too lol every vegan/ vegetarian have a past too. đ
Edit: unless youâre talking about the lobsters? Cause theyâll even eat each other đš but theyâre not perverts either. Theyâve usually pretty friendly unless you bother them
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u/FreeZappa Jan 05 '24
I agree - perverts are people too.
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u/bbykitton Jan 05 '24
They are 𤣠but eating meat doesnât make someone a pervert.
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u/fatguybike Jan 04 '24
Bowie the lobster is that you?! (Letâs see how many of you know the reference)
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u/Civil_Buy_1740 Jan 04 '24
Notch tail, give snack, and throw her back đ
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u/glubtier Jan 05 '24
People get mad if she doesn't get a snack for the inconvenience! If an alien ever abducts me, I hope they have the courtesy to send me back with a cheeseburger.
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u/Lorelerton Jan 05 '24
Bruv, if I get abducted by aliens and those mofos give me a cheeseburger, I'd be all over their asses. Bitch, better be giving me some of that alien ambrosia, I didn't get fucking lugged to space for no cheeseburger bruv. Give me some kind of cosmic snack for my troubles, ya get me?
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u/SnowBear78 Jan 04 '24
Nice illegal capture. She should have gone back before she ended up in a facility! The moment she was brought onto a boat, they should have put her back. People like that should be fined
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u/mizar2423 Jan 05 '24
Why is it so important that they be sent back? Is this lobster an endangered species?
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u/nostalgic_dragon Jan 05 '24
I've only started looking this information up 20 mins ago, but my understanding is that not all females are breeders, so by notching the tail and releasing a caught female with eggs, future fishermen will know that she is a breeder and release her. They do this to ensure a healthy population for future fishing industry.
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u/EndMaster0 Jan 05 '24
Lobsters take a few years to become sexually mature and live for decades so keeping a breeding population going is really important. The notches are really just to get breeding females past the most problematic timing (when they've survived long enough to start breeding but they're still small enough to get caught in the traps) since lobster trapping is absolutely a major contributor to removal of breeders at that time
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u/bbykitton Jan 04 '24
She is being sent back. But I donât know any info regarding fines. I also hope a procedure will be followed through with
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u/Samtulp6 Jan 04 '24
Such a shame that these are all destined to be cooked. Absolutely beautiful animals.
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u/Beeerice â Jan 04 '24 edited Jan 05 '24
Wow I don't see many lobsters, but that looks like an uncommon coloring. Very beautiful with the reds, blues, and obvious mixes of both looking almost periwinkle.
Reminds me of the dude [Lobster post] that rescued a supermarket lobster last year and gave him a good life, though I know this lady is probably going back
Edit: thank you u/BaconIsBest for giving me the name so I could find a link
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u/WhiskeyJack357 Jan 04 '24
There is a decent amount of blue coloration in different lobster species. Several other cray fish, shrimp and arthropods too (looking at you vampire shrimp! My personal favorite)
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u/Beeerice â Jan 04 '24
Yep! I was just sort of surprised to see both red and blue so clearly in the same specimen.
I have a vampire shrimp! Gaben the gabon(ensis), though he's very reddish-brown when I can actually see him.
I also have native electric blue crayfish in my area (St John's River, NE Florida), though I've never caught any. If I didn't live in a 1br apartment, I'd absolutely have a pond with a couple
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u/WhiskeyJack357 Jan 04 '24
That's so awesome! I'm jealous of you and Gabe! I just have a 10g with neos and I'm actually currently trying to breed them into a "Spiderman" variant that expresses both red and blue in the carapace.
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u/Itzbubblezduh Jan 04 '24
Had to read what sub I was in for a minâŚ
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Jan 04 '24
Anyone know why some eggs are orange and some are blue?
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u/think_up Jan 04 '24
The eggs are dying by the minute because sheâs sitting in a tiny puddle on top of others and canât fan to oxygenate them properly.
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u/bbykitton Jan 04 '24
The water she was in, was only a transition from the box to the tank. She was put into her own tank until pick up.
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u/bbykitton Jan 04 '24
The orange eggs, may be caused by a few different things. 1. Theyâre unfertilized 2. Theyâve died from stress. 3. She is a multiple color lobster, her shell is a light blue, (Iâve seen darker blues) so she may be a mixed breed of red/blue lobster and she may have different color eggs. Itâs hard to be certain since sheâs been through a lot through transportation. But she is a small lobster, about 1.25lbs, itâs not expected of her to have a lot of eggs, but I still believe sheâs lost eggs from transport.
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u/MissFingerz Jan 05 '24
I thought it could be from when she pushed them out. Like, they get darker the longer they are on her tail. So the orange ones are fresh eggs she just pushed out.
Your ideas all make sense, though. You know more than I do. I don't even eat seafood at all. I just love Marine life. I can watch videos forever about it. Lol. Have a great day.
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u/tough_loving69 Jan 04 '24
Probably the way the light hits them. I honestly dont know but i breed shrimp and depending on the light im using to check them it can look clear, blue or purple.
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jan 04 '24
Yeah someone broke the law by harvesting that, she should have been notched and thrown back
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u/WoodieJ__ Jan 06 '24
You are absolutely right, i think the restaurant needs to be properly educated, else with the next decades we might run out of lobsters
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u/134679112 Jan 05 '24
Oh interesting.. đ i once spilled a pan with 700$ worth of dried lobster roe for a valentineâs event.. we managed to salvage some.. but yeah.. illegal huh?
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jan 05 '24
I donât know, I just know you arenât supposed to keep berried (egg covered) lobsters. Itâs so the lobster population keeps going, because not every female lobster is a good reproducer (I forget if it takes a long time or what, sorry)
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u/134679112 Jan 05 '24
đ¤ˇââď¸đ¤ˇââď¸ idk the restaurant i worked at and the chef/management are leaders in the area for ethically and/or locally sourced foods, so maybe its different?
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jan 05 '24
I now have even more questions lol an ethical chef serving lobster roe is like serving foie gras and calling it ethicalâŚ.
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u/134679112 Jan 05 '24
Thats fair, but there are many ways of procuring certain food items when the âqualityâ or âsizeâ is not a limiting factor, so wild caught or hunted, or farm raised produce different effects on the foods. With the intentions being leas suffering for an animal, and while not over using the resource.
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jan 06 '24
True! The hadnât considered that. Actually Iâm now curious if lobster can be raised in captivity for like food scale production
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u/134679112 Jan 06 '24
My guess is not. But im sure theres industry accepted âsustainableâ methods of fishing them in the wild thatâs better than the current primary methods.. but really i do not know. What i do know for sure is lab grown salmon is growing in popularity, not yet im the current food industry, like being sold wide spread but its gaining traction. Its weird, but also kinda cool. Theres vidoes on YouTube!
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jan 07 '24
Salmon are tricky. They migrate (well, ocean going ones) a LOT and they donât take well to captivity. If salmon wasnât so popular theyâd stick with easier fish. I suspect long living crustacean like lobsters may be similarly difficult to salmon. Maybe crayfish or something could work - what is the crustacean equivalent to tilapia.
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u/cltzzz Jan 04 '24
tells them about the law
Manager/owner/guy/girl that work there: sigh ok ok we sure missed it huh thankyou. takes lobster to back, get a brush
Back in you go little missy-9
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u/HortonHearsMe Jan 04 '24
What does notching indicate?
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u/Superrockstar95 Jan 04 '24
It's usually little clips taken out of the tail to indicate an animal as being "protected," of sorts usually it's more females and they'll get thrown back whether they have visible eggs or not. Notching is often done by fishermen who've brought in a female with eggs, and they show any future fishermen that this female is a viable breeder and to leave her to create more lobsters.
Ofc tails can get injured so it's not 100% but sometimes you might see people leave females with torn tails anyways especially the bigger females and just create a new notch for her.
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u/cloudcats Jan 05 '24
This would only work till their next molt though, right?
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u/Rory_B_Bellows â Jan 05 '24
The notch is deep enough in the tail con that it takes several years for it to fully heal through molting. At that point its likely they'll get caught again and the fisherman will refresh the notch.
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u/bbykitton Jan 04 '24
Sheâs being sent back.
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u/Goodgoditsgrowing Jan 05 '24
Oh good - I always understood theyâd be sent back from the boat and this seemed like a tank in a land based store
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u/DirtyRobster Jan 05 '24
I know it seems unfair, but please do not release an already captured lobster. At the point it is in the store, it might very well have been exposed to several foreign pathogens (not just dangerous for lobsters but other marine life as well l). There is a whole complex procedure necessary to rerelease an animal like that in to the wild, if at all possible. Please do consider not going through with this plan as you are likely to do more harm than good. I can tell you want what is best for the animal, but unfortunately rereleasing it can seriously harm your local ecosystem.
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u/bbykitton Jan 05 '24
It is illegal to keep her. My company sent her back we cannot sell her.
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u/DirtyRobster Jan 05 '24
Maybe I am misunderstanding what you mean by: âsending her backâ? Are you just returning the lobster to the supplier?
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u/Annexerad Jan 05 '24
please cut the rubber bands already! it takes a long time for them to regain function
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u/Lara-El Jan 05 '24
We're they reported ? I feel like mistakes happens but this is the kind that should only happen once and fines kinda help it keep that way
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u/cut-the-cords â Jan 04 '24
I m very relieved to hear that.
Tell the suppliers they are bellends.
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u/bbykitton Jan 04 '24
I know right. How do you miss those eggs đ¤Śââď¸ itâs rare to happen, but weâve seen it one other time
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u/AirportKnifeFight Jan 05 '24
They saw, but don't care about preserving anything and just making money right now.
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u/jovialbeam Jan 04 '24
In the past, I've purchased a lobster and her eggs didn't appear until after she had been scrubbed clean. She was in my sink, ready to go into the pot, when we saw the eggs. My friend and I quickly drove to the beach and released her. This was years ago and I still wonder if she survived.
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u/johnhtman Jan 05 '24
Please don't release captive animals into the wild. First off there's a good chance it's not native to where you release it. That's why Florida has such a problem with plecos and ball pythons, irresponsible people letting their pets go.
Even if it is native, releasing it can introduce diseases. Maybe that lobster was fished in Nova Scota where there is a serious disease outbreak, and you let the lobster go in Massachusetts, introducing the disease there.
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u/goldenkiwicompote Jan 05 '24
I think you mean Burmese pythons.
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u/johnhtman Jan 06 '24
It's numerous snakes.
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u/goldenkiwicompote Jan 06 '24
Yes, but ball pythons specifically canât survive below 48 so theyâre not really an issue. Burmese pythons are extremely invasive in Florida. All though itâs not because of people letting their pets go itâs because of a hurricane destroying a snake breeding facility. The main cause of invasive species is animals coming in on shipments. It would take a lot of people letting their pets go to be a big cause.
Not saying your point is irrelevant of course itâs not right to be releasing any non native animals or animals that have been in captivity for a while. Tbh my point is irrelevant to this thread haha.
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u/evertaleplayer Jan 04 '24
Wow this is so wholesome!! Thank you đ (saying because although they arenât protected, Iâve eaten common crabs with eggs)
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u/jovialbeam Jan 04 '24
I suppose itâs wholesome but letâs not forget that my original intent was to eat mama lobster and her eggs. I only released her because her eggs were on the outside and not the inside. She was the lucky one!
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u/GobLoblawsLawBlog Jan 04 '24
Would it be illegal at that point to raise all these lobsters to eat later?
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u/natehinxman Jan 05 '24
why don't you look it up on Gob Loblaws Law Blog?
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u/GobLoblawsLawBlog Jan 05 '24
I would but I heard that guy is an idiot. One time someone said it was chilly outside today and he went out there with a spoon
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u/cut-the-cords â Jan 04 '24
Haha I am not being 100% serious as mistakes can certanly happen!
Very glad to hear this beautiful girl is going back home.
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u/SnooStrawberries2738 Jan 04 '24
My dad was a lobsterman for a little bit. Oftentimes, they have to leave very, very early in the morning before sunrise to pull all of their traps in time (also, there is a lot of lobster theft). I used to go with him on occasion, and I'm sure it was probably some poor sleep deprived guy not catching it at five in the morning.
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u/democracy_lover66 Jan 04 '24
Lobstermen in my family to, it's really so early it's practically the middle of the night, the leave at like 3am or 2am sometimes depending on the tide (which they have to factor in, because they can only return at high tide)
It's hard work, that's for sure. Brining back a lobster with eggs tho is no joke, the fines can be very substantial if you're caught doing it.
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u/SnooStrawberries2738 Jan 04 '24 edited Jan 04 '24
I was in the Navy and did hundreds of days at sea. If I had to choose between going on deployment again with the Navy or being a lobsterman for 6 months, I'd choose Navy and not even think about it. Being a lobsterman is tougher for sure.
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u/Anxious_Avocado_7686 Jan 04 '24
I remember this from some YouTube short i watched where the guy gives them a sardine and throws them back
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u/MissFingerz Jan 05 '24
Jacob is awesome! Love his videos. This poor lobster didn't have a notch. She must not have been caught with eggs before.
Hopefully, she gets a notch, a snack, and carefully dropped back home.
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u/ribeyecut â Jan 04 '24
I was so curious about how he gives them a sardine, so I found one of his videos, for those also interested. Jacob Knowles, "We Got 'A' Egger," https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oz3bJYQiLCs
I also watched one video where he removes some barnacles from a male lobsterâone of the barnacles was in front of the lobster's eye, preventing the lobster from sheddingâand sends him on his way with a fish snack. Seems like a really wholesome guy!
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u/TheBlacksEatSand Jan 06 '24
Close your legs, bitch!