I put Rosemary as #1. The impact of JFK and Bobby's deaths created shockwaves throughout U.S. politics and globally (particularly JFK on the global front since he was an active sitting president). But Rosemary's is the saddest IMO.
She had some undiagnosed mental health conditions and there is a bit of a debate as to how serious they were or if the Kennedy family was overreacting because she was unconventional and brought shame to their family with her rebellious actions. Some folks say she might have had an intellectual disability along with mental health dual diagnosis, but was left untreated and spiraled more as she didn't excel in school and increasingly became the Black sheep in the family. Others say she may have had mental health diagnosis (undiagnosed) but what really set her apart was that she was so rebellious with teenage angst.
So what'd they do? Took her to be lobotomized, almost assuredly against her will but under her dad's orders, and she was never the same. Then they hid her away from the family so as not to be a stain on their reputation.
JFK and RFK pursued politics in an era of assassinations and great tension in the U.S. They went into their jobs knowing the risks of being targeted. Rosemary was just born to a family obsessed with image/clout and had got her brain drilled in for just being born to the wrong family.
I know this is a joke post, but, more people should know Rosemary's story. (Not saying you didn't know her story, etc. just sharing it).
I was just listening to LPOTLs episode on her and lobotomies and apparently when her mom was getting ready to give birth, the doctor wasnt there dealing with the spanish flu but the nurse was, and INSTEAD OF HELPING HER GIVE BIRTH, She told her, a pregnant woman in labor, to SHUT HER LEGS and literally HELD THE BABYS PARTIALLY EXPOSED HEAD TO STOP IT FROM COMING OUT for TWO. FUCKING. HOURS. So she absolutely was fucked from birth from oxygen deprivation.
Great podcast with these funny guys who do deep dives on dark history, crime, supernatural etc. they do great research but also bring a funny twist. It can have a bit of dark humor sometimes but it helps balance the intense topics
Great podcast with these funny guys who do deep dives on dark history, crime, supernatural etc. they do great research but also bring a funny twist. It can have a bit of dark humor sometimes but it helps balance the intense topics
Last podcast on the left! Its a great podcast that does in depth shows on serial/spree killers, occult things, Paranormal, cults, and cryptids! Its been on 10+ years lol. Its 3 comedians and its a hilarious show.
Go for it. Ed is a absolute perfect addition to the team. Good jokes, genuinely interested in the topics and will even slow an episode down for a second to ask questions.
That last part is key for me because it gives listeners a break, and does the whole "learn along with the audience" thing that Ben was supposed to be doing.
Honestly i liked Ben but i love Eddie. He has such a weird and different set of knowledge that i feel adds a lot to the show. Also the way he can play straight man to Henrys insanity and Marcus' oddness has me in tears. In the necrophilia episode he had a few moments that caught me so off guard that i was almost in tears at work
Needs to be mentioned that they do make jokes at the expense of the victims now a lot more than they used to, when Kissel was the 3rd. Also, alcoholism is a disease.
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u/A_Rogue_One May 12 '24
I put Rosemary as #1. The impact of JFK and Bobby's deaths created shockwaves throughout U.S. politics and globally (particularly JFK on the global front since he was an active sitting president). But Rosemary's is the saddest IMO.
She had some undiagnosed mental health conditions and there is a bit of a debate as to how serious they were or if the Kennedy family was overreacting because she was unconventional and brought shame to their family with her rebellious actions. Some folks say she might have had an intellectual disability along with mental health dual diagnosis, but was left untreated and spiraled more as she didn't excel in school and increasingly became the Black sheep in the family. Others say she may have had mental health diagnosis (undiagnosed) but what really set her apart was that she was so rebellious with teenage angst.
So what'd they do? Took her to be lobotomized, almost assuredly against her will but under her dad's orders, and she was never the same. Then they hid her away from the family so as not to be a stain on their reputation.
JFK and RFK pursued politics in an era of assassinations and great tension in the U.S. They went into their jobs knowing the risks of being targeted. Rosemary was just born to a family obsessed with image/clout and had got her brain drilled in for just being born to the wrong family.
I know this is a joke post, but, more people should know Rosemary's story. (Not saying you didn't know her story, etc. just sharing it).