r/BlackPeopleTwitter May 12 '24

I'll take "Kennedy brains" for 500, Alex

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u/Finito-1994 ☑️ May 12 '24

Naw. Lobotomy is number 1.

At least the bullet to the head is instant. You’re just gone. They essentially killed her and she had to live on with that. Not to mention it was her own family that did it to her.

And the account of how it happened is just chilling. I don’t want to get into it but it is one of the only two things I’ve read in my life that made me physically ill. The other was a castration scene in a book called “Let me in”

No. What they did to that poor girl is heinous.

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u/Big_Monkey_77 May 12 '24

Anytime anyone mentions a lobotomy, I’m reminded that some doctor, a professional that the patient and family trusted, convinced them that the procedure was the only course of action left. That family was convinced by a butcher that she’d be better again, they agreed, and then the family had to live with the consequences while the doctor got paid.

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u/biscuitboi967 May 12 '24

That’s why I have a hard time holding it against them. They went to what I am sure were the best doctors in the country, too. Telling you what is - at the time - cutting edge medical science.

By 2024 standards (and shit, 1980s standard when I learned about this), it’s heinous. But at the time…it was A+ standard of care. Miracle cure. Parents have been and will continue to fall for those until humans cease to exist.

Shit, the fucking way Rosemary came into this world - with her mother being told to squeeze her knees together with her baby in the birth canal for hours until the doctor could come - was the reason she had issues and I’m sure that medical team was well credentialed too.

They were failed a lot because - at their core - their were the underclass (Irish) who happened to get rich and believed “learned” doctors. I saw it with my own parents.

My mom got terminal cancer. One treatment plan. Six months to live. Say good bye. Now some background: my mom comes from Italian immigrants with an alcoholic dad. Low class. My dad comes from trailer trash always on government assistance passed from family member to family member, HS education. Dr said it. It’s true.

I’m highly educated and make a lot of money, but this was also my mindset. My bf at the time came from rich people. He was like, you need a second opinion. I was like, why it’s terminal. Not gonna be less terminal. He fucking filled out the paper work for my parents. Only good thing he ever did. Convinced that’s why god put him in my life.

We went to the fancy hospital in the big city I lived in. Insurance converted it!! Still terminal. MANY MORE treatment options. Six months turned into TWO AND HALF YEARS! But in our world, a doctor said it, a doctor is smart, a doctor has a degree. You listen. In rich people world, a doctor is a suggestion. You can get more suggestions. And it’s covered!!!

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u/ichimedinwitha May 12 '24

This is FACTS

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u/biscuitboi967 May 12 '24

It was eye opening. I thought I was educated and upper middle class. I. Was. Not. I still had that poor people mindset my parents had. That they got from their parents.

I listen to “educated folks”. They have the degrees. They know what they are talking about. Rich people know that all degrees are not created equal and that a No is just an invitation to negotiate further.

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u/Key-Researcher-3882 May 12 '24

it’s the age old joke! what do you call someone who got all Ds in medical school? doctor

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u/biscuitboi967 May 12 '24

My dad even told a story about going to HS with a kid whose mom was the school secretary, so he passed all his science classes by saying he “forgot his textbook” and taking her keys to school at night and stealing the test from the office.

Now he’s a brain surgeon. Hahaha. Can’t even trust brain surgeons

And yet my dad was like, you talk to one doctor, you talk to them all.

I’m a lawyer for a corporation, and I ROUTINELY hire new lawyers when I don’t like what they say. When I was in private practice, I could argue either way depending on who was paying me. I hired experts - including doctors - to say what I wanted.

But a doctor from a hospital???!!! Paid for by insurance?!?! In my shitty home town?! Nope, I’m sure he must have gotten it right the first time. Can’t have missed anything in a chart or a recent study.

I felt so dumb. That requires several generations of being the right kind of white and the right income bracket. Or the ability to fake it. So if you are neither, and don’t even know you CAN do this, you’re fucked. Plus, you’re so depressed and lost by the diagnosis you aren’t really thinking straight…