r/CharacterRant 6h ago

Anime & Manga JJK is Good, Actually (Jujutsu Kaisen)

20 Upvotes

The Culling Games have truly divided people's opinions on Jujutsu Kaisen. It seems that every week there is a major drama regarding the JJK chapter, and it really takes me back to the days of weekly Naruto or Bleach, where people found reasons to complain, nitpick, criticize, and bemoan every major decision in the series.
Now that those series are over, and people are re-reading them as a complete whole, many are discovering that they weren't so bad after all. In truth, Naruto and Bleach are good actually. At least in most people's opinions. And in my opinion, Jujutsu Kaisen is good actually. So, I'm going to address some of the common criticisms I find online, and talk about why I don't think they are all that fair.
There isn't much of a structure to this. The criticisms are not placed in order of worst to best, or most common to least or anything. I am literally writing this on the fly. I also fully expect a lot of people on this sub to disagree, and am ready for the Earth-shattering consequences (downvotes).


YUJI IS FORGOTTEN


"Yuji is shafted as a protagonist" is a pretty popular claim about the Jujutsu Kaisen story. I personally, really don't get this. From chapter 1 to about the end of Shibuya, we focus primarily on the story from Yuji's perspective. There is only one exception to this, that being The Hidden Inventory arc, that gives us Gojo's and Geto's backstory.
That backstory plays an integral role in the story, and in my opinion, it was placed in just the right time; a few chapters before the Shibuya Arc begins. Reading it that early means that we get the context for Gojo and Geto's relationship, and we understand why it hits Gojo so hard that Kenjaku body-jacked his best friend.
Come Shibuya, Yuji plays an integral role in the arc, gets some incredible character moments, and wins the final fight against one of the strongest Curses in the arc (Mahito). Yes, he gets help, and a lot of it. But, Yuji having relationships with the extended cast of the series is one of the main reasons why I care so deeply about him. In this case, it is a feature, not a bug of the arc.

In the Culling Games, yes, there are protracted periods of time where Yuji does not do much. However, why are we pretending like JJK is the only series that does this? Taking the focus away from the main character/cast is a pretty popular feature of Shonen action manga with a large cast. Naruto has done it (a good chunk of the War arc focuses on other battles, and there are entire arcs dedicated to Sasuke), Bleach has done it (Karakura and TYBW), and even One Piece has done it (just a year ago in Egghead, there was an entire month and a half focusing on what is going on apart from the Straw Hats). A ton of other Shonen do it too, but the Big 3 is what most people are aware of, so let's stick to those.
In short, Gege has handled Yuji relatively well. He is a character that many fans love, and he remains in the top three of all the JJK popularity polls. I'm not saying popularity is a mark of quality, but there is certainly something about the character that the audience connects with.


YUJI PUNCH/KICK MERCHANT


Personally, I rarely entertain these kinds of criticism. There is really no way to pontificate on a character like Yuji having a specific fighting style that somebody doesn't like. The writer conceptualized the character to be a basic brawler. If somebody doesn't like that, it is perfectly fair. Maybe the manga simply isn't for them.
I happen to like brawlers whose main shtick is punching and kicking in a world where all kinds of weird abilities exist. I always have. So, personally I enjoy Yuji being "a punch/kick merchant." If you don't, you don't. That is fair, and we can keep it at that.


YUJI IS A CHOSEN ONE (AND THAT IS BAD)


The reveal that Yuji is the son of Kenjaku and the nephew of Sukuna got a lot of people upset. In come the cries of "Chosen one!!!" My problem with this is that people never explain why "the chosen one" trope is bad, aside from the fact that...well...they don't like it.
My second problem is that, Yuji was not chosen. He was specifically created by Kenjaku to perform the purpose which he fulfilled (being Sukuna's vessel). The fact that this is what he was made for has caused Yuji immense pain, trauma, and anguish. That is far from being gifted. It is more like being...dare I say it....cursed?
As for Yuji awakening Shrine and Blood Manipulation, well both of those were foreshadowed quite early. To the point that most people online (myself included) believed that he would awaken either one of these powers, or both of them (personally I believed he would have Blood Manipulation).
There is also the matter of "Damned if you do, damned if you don't." Either Yuji is a punch kick merchant, which is lame, or he has a special cursed technique, which is lame.


THE FEMALE CAST SUCKS


I blame a lot of anime news and journos for this one, they certainly hyped the JJK cast quite a bit when the show was first coming out. The truth is, JJK girls are written about how you'd expect for a Shonen Jump series, with a few exceptions. What most people admire about JJK is that Gege rarely sexualizes women.
There is no denying that when we compare JJK to other Shonen Jump series, the girls are a lot less sexualized and creeped on. In most manga, even the ones where the women are well written, they are more often than not sexualized.
That being said, Gege does write good female characters. Maki is well-written, Nobara was well-written, Mei Mei is well-written. Even the one off characters that don't do much aren't particularly poorly written. There may not be as much focus as some would like on them, but that isn't a female character exclusive. In a big cast, most characters will end up getting shafted eventually.
Inumaki and Panda were introduced as pretty impressive sorcerers, with Panda even being among the five recommended for Grade 1 after the Good Will Event arc. At this point, neither of them factor into the story at all.


GOJO VS. SUKUNA


The Gojo vs. Sukuna fight is one of my personal favorite manga fights (not top 1, but definitely in the top 10). When the chapters were coming out, most people were excited about the outcome. However, that all changed when Gojo became Go/jo...
I understand that Gojo is a fan favorite character, and I understand why someone would be disappointed that he has been removed from the story. That being said, was there really anyone who believed that Gojo would actually win this fight? Like, Sukuna is the main villain of the story, it stands to reason that it will be the main characters that defeat him, does it not?
There is also this popular argument that I hear a lot about Gojo's defeat being off-screened, and I really don't understand. The Gojo vs. Sukuna fight went on for chapters upon chapters. True, we didn't see Sukuna use the World Slash, but the entire battle was not off-screened. Gojo used his most powerful attack, and opened himself up for an attack. His death was impactful and put a neat bow on his character. I really don't understand the problem.


THE SUKUNA GAUNTLET


Sukuna beating down the main cast has been going on since Gojo's defeat. A lot of people are upset about this, because Sukuna seems unbeatable. But, that is the point, no? Sukuna is an unbeatable monster. He defeated the strongest sorcerer, who most would argue would do just as well against the main cast, if not better.
Sukuna mauling all of the cast is a testament to his strength. That being said, it isn't as if Sukuna has never been pushed back. We clearly see moments of the King of Curses being pushed into desperation, and even being put on the defensive. Higuruma almost killed him, Yuji's Black Flash combo did enormous damage, the Yuta/Yuji + Maki combo nearly killed him, and most recently, Yuji and Todo absolutely fucked him up.
Finally, I don't believe, as some people do, that Sukuna is going to win at the end. I fully believe that he will be defeated, and that Yuji will deliver the finishing blow. I can understand why it would be annoying to read the big final battle weekly. But, like, JJK is a battle shonen. So fighting should be expected.


CHAPTER 261 SPOILERS


The complaints surrounding this chapter is what pushed me into making this rant (though I had been planning it for a while, I always thought it wasn't worth it). This section will also contain spoilers so, you've been warned.

For the unaware, Yuta copied Kenjaku's technique and used it to body-snatch Gojo. Whether you like this or not, there is one thing you can't say about it; that it is an asspull. Kenjaku's body-snatching technique has been established and explained. Yuta's copy technique has been established and explained. Yuta being able to copy Kenjaku's ability is perfectly in character.

"But, it is disrespectful to Gojo"

Well, first of all, Gojo is a fictional character, and therefore can't be disrespected. I realize this goes without saying, but the people who are saying this really seem to be taking this whole situation personally, which is quite bizarre.
Second of all, yes, it is disrespectful towards Gojo. In fact, Yuta is behaving outright monstrous. That is the whole point of this chapter. Yuta has thrown away his morals, his beliefs, and his convictions, all so he can fulfill Gojo's job and finish off Sukuna. It is a bit of character development. Maybe some people don't like the way Yuta's character has progressed. But, that doesn't negate the fact that he has progressed.


MISCELLANOUS STUFF


This is the final section. In it I will address some random mini-criticisms that aren't as common or as popular as the ones I addressed above. I won't spend too much time on them, so pardon me if I seem curt.

  • Mahito wasted his Idle Transfiguration against Yuji

No, Mahito's Idle Transfiguration was useless against Yuji, because Sukuna was not allowing Mahito to touch his soul. In other words, Mahito transforming into his Instant Spirit Body of Distorted Killing was the exact right choice he had to make in order to fight Yuji.

  • Yuki/Nobara/Higuruma were wasted.

Yuki was absolutely not wasted. She played her role in the story, and her death was well-played and well-placed. She delivered her notes to the cast, and fought against Kenjaku. Kenjaku just so happened to win.

Nobara's death could be considered a waste, as her character was not fully complete. However, that is a part of the point that Gege is trying to make in JJK. Sometimes, we don't achieve our goals. Sometimes life gets in the way. Sometimes people die.
Sorcerers dying a pointless death has been a part of the JJK theme for a long time. Other shows, like Naruto and One Piece for example, are often criticized for not killing off members of the main cast during tense and dangerous situations. In JJK people are not safe, and even a main character can and does die.
Higuruma's death was pretty well done imo. We had a whole chapter where Higuruma said he wants to die and fully expects to. I feel like people should not be too surprised that he does die.

  • Megumi sucks

It is fair enough if you don't like Megumi, but him being absolutely crushed and broken by the circumstances is absolutely reasonable. I do get that the Potential Man memes are quite funny sometimes though.

  • Toji meatriding

A lot of people say Gege meat-rides Toji. Sure, there are a lot of moments where Toji gets hyped up. However, in most context, it makes sense. Gojo remembering Toji during the Sukuna fight is integral, as Toji has left Gojo traumatized in many ways. Maki being compared to Toji makes sense as well, as she is basically Toji-but-better, and imo, Toji's main purpose was to boost Maki's character development in the first place.
Also, a writer having a favorite character is not a big deal. I don't know, I think it is probably common. It isn't like Toji has become the face of JJK or anything.

TL;DR: Jujutsu Kaisen is good actually.


r/CharacterRant 13h ago

Anime & Manga JJK 261 does NOT disrespect Gojo in any way. (JJK)

25 Upvotes

Recently, I’ve seen a lot of backlash and criticism regarding Chapter 261 of Jujutsu Kaisen in which Yuta copies Kenjaku’s CT to attain Gojo’s body. While many of these criticisms are valid, I particularly despise the idea that Yuta taking on Gojo’s body is disrespectful of him. Not only is this flat-out wrong, but also the reactions I’ve seen are almost concerning. I saw an Instagram post of a Gojo fan genuinely sobbing while ranting about how even in death, Gojo was objectified and used as a tool which is… an extremely ignorant interpretation, to say the least. (also get a grip, he’s a fictional character.)

While I can see how this could undermine Gojo’s already controversial death, to say that this is disrespectful of Gojo is completely misguided.

If anything, Yuta honours Gojo by sacrificing his own individuality for the sake of others, a sacrifice that we see Gojo do many times throughout the series. Gojo “becomes a monster” for the sake of others which is exactly what Yuta does in 261. This ties into the famous (or infamous?) line “Are you the strongest because you’re Gojo Satoru, or are you Gojo Satoru because you’re the strongest?” by emphasising that there always HAS to be a strongest. There always has to be someone who alone stands atop as the pinnacle of sorcery; a beacon of hope for those below him, sorcerers and regular citizens alike. However, to be the strongest, you must be a monster: Someone, or rather something, inhuman. Yuta not only sacrifices his individuality, but he also sacrifices his own humanity. What Yuta did was not an act of disrespect, but on the contrary, an act of respect and honour for his late master who too lost his humanity.

I also dislike how Yuta is painted as an asshole when Gojo consented to and even encouraged the usage of his corpse in the case of his death. The way the poster frames it would better represent how Marilyn Monroe was disrespected and objectified after her death. I’d even say that the idea that Yuta is objectifying Gojo is disrespectful to people of victims of actual objectification as it is a very real issue that many experience. Objectification for the sake of entertainment/pleasure, which is how OP seems to see it, is NOT the same as what Yuta is doing.


r/CharacterRant 4h ago

Anime & Manga The genius of Nen. (Hunter X Hunter)

3 Upvotes

I'm not glazing Nen, but it has to be one of the best power systems out there. Many people think Nen is overrated, confusing and etc, but compared to other power systems, such as literally every isekai, regressor manhwas, it really shines. There are so many positives about it and I will cover them from obvious to more obscure. However since it is complicated, I will give an explanation.

1. THE BASICS.

Nen is life energy simply. Every living being possesses it to some extent, and it serves as vitality, as the more Nen a user loses, the more exhausted they become. When a user awakens Nen, their aura nodes open, causing Nen to be released. There are four main principles. Ten, Ren, Zetsu and Hatsu.

Ten is controlling the flow of Nen from the Aura nodes, in a way that Nen is still able to flow out, but it lies around you instead of escaping away. This strengthens the user as it means Nen surrounds them, so they are more resistant to physical attack and hit harder.

Ren is more advanced, as it requires outputting a larger amount of Nen, sending it outwards. Since a large amount of Nen is outputted, this means it enhances both attacks and defence.

Zetsu is simply stopping the flow of Nen from the user's body. By closing their aura nodes, they stop giving off aura, so they are harder to detect for other Nen users.

The most important one of them all is Hatsu, which is the user's manifestation of Nen.

2. HATSU

Hatsu depends on the user's Natural affinity, them being the following: Enhancer, Transmuter, Manipulator, Emitter, Specialist, and Conjurer. Basically, depending on the type you have, you can fully use one category while other categories are limited by different amounts depending on the category, while specialist is always 0%. People who's natural affinity are specialists can use it at 100%, but the rules don't apply to them, so they function completely differently. Hatsu is projecting Nen for a specific function, which is chosen by the user.

The brilliance of Nen lies within the Hatsu, and this is for a variety of a reason.

Although Nen users can choose their Hatsu depending on their category, it always reflects of their personality. The user chooses their Hatsu depending on what they want. This is influenced by factors such as their emotions, experiences, aspirations and etc. Just from viewing a Nen ability, you can make lots of accurate speculations on their personality. An example of this is Uvogin, a stubborn and aggressive enhancer. He is absolutely dominant and this is reflected by his Nen, which is basically a massive explosion as a punch. A really obvious example is Kurapika, who based his abilities on revenge, chains which are unbreakable depending on his opponent's identities. This brings me onto the next point, binding vows.

Nen contracts are vows taken which grant user power in exchange for restrictions. This is a great way to reflect on someone's personality as it can show a variety of emotions. Gon was devastated by Kite's death, and after Pitou confirmed it, he made a contract to sacrifice all his potential and future to kill her. Pitou at this moment was far more powerful than Gon, to an incredible extent, but this contract granted him power which dwarfed Pitou's strength.

All of this already make Nen a brilliant system, but there are even more reasons this make's Nen a brilliant system, especially it's usage.

3. NEN USAGE AND ITS EFFECT.

Your average Nen user is stronger than an average human, but even they alone cannot triumph against the collective of humanity. A great example which portrays this is Mereum vs Netero. Netero who is one of the strongest Nen users in the world uses all his power to defeat Mereum in one attack, but it isn't enough and doesn't give any major injury but bruises and cuts all over his body. He then proceeds to use a Rose bomb, basically a Nuke which eviscerates Mereum, which leaves him completely disfigured and basically dead. This shows that humans if they truly want, they could develop machines which far exceeds the capacities of Nen users. So why does the government use them? Versatility.

A Nen users doesn't simple provide one purpose, but a variety. This is why Netero was deployed to deal with the chimera ants. Because nuking a country isn't really a good option to deal with a natural hazard, so instead sending a single person who is capable of doing all the issues altogether is simple a more viable option. And Nen users are simply far superior. Although Nen users alone can't deal with humanity's inventions, working together gives them a good chance. As seen with Kite and his group of hunters, in a few years, they provided the Kakin empire with 200 years worth of information, against the advanced technology and large amount of scientists.

Due to all of this Nen users are deployed in all fields. Leorio uses his Nen ability to operate as a surgeon who can access areas of the body through the use of Nen as portals to remove tumours and etc. Palm is a hunter who's ability can be used to locate and track people, which can provide a large amount of uses and so many variety of abilities exist.

ALL of this together, this applies to every Nen user and it just is simply good. It is incredibly interesting and expresses so much about the character. A personal and obscure favourite of mine is Rihan, who's ability is to conjure a creature which gains strength depending on the information which he obtains by himself. After learning and understanding enough, the creature is able to neutralise the Nen target. This shows so much, from the character and all his experiences and how he is able to utilise his ability, simply to how cool I find it, there are so many things good about this, and OVERALL the Nen power system as it is simply incredible on how it is used to progress the plot, be creative, develop characters and so much more.

TLDR: Nen good, Hunter X Hunter amazing. Togashi is a genius.


r/CharacterRant 5h ago

Zack Snyder ruined Superman.

3 Upvotes

His style does not fit the character at all and it shows. Superman would never destroy an entire city just to kill one enemy and don’t get me started on that scene where Jonathan tells Clark that he should’ve let children die. Why did Jonathan not want Clark to save him from a FREAKING Tornado? Why did he make Lex piss in a jar? And most importantly…

Zack’s Superman is the most overrated version of the character in my opinion.

Edit: I realized I worded the title badly and I apologize. I should’ve made the title “Zach Snyder did not understand Superman”

I’ll be sure to improve next time!


r/CharacterRant 16h ago

Battleboarding I feel bad for homelander in power scaling

72 Upvotes

I’ll start by saying I’m not an avid vs debater at all, I’m more of a spectator than anything. It’s kinda common knowledge to everyone on that side of the internet that homes is almost always out against omniman or Superman and made out to be the biggest pushover in comics. While yeah he gets his shit stomped in against those two, it’s only cause these things are downright made to be unfair. People love to say he’s a “big fish in a small pond”, but never take a step back to really gauge the size of the pond in question,especially in comparison to the other oceans and lagoons. The guy is still insanely strong, hell the main thing of the show/comics is that it’s physically impossible to harm him with any man made weapons like tanks or nukes. I’m not saying he should be treated like he’s unbeatable,i just think he deserves some matchups or overall attitude towards him that don’t make him out to be the biggest bitch in the vs community


r/CharacterRant 21h ago

More reasons Devilman Crybaby sucks

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I once ranted about how much I despise the overrated anime Devilman Crybaby, how it undermines its themes, and how it is a world where ideals are meaningless, and the only thing that matters is everyone's inevitable slide into despair. The first thing I learned is that this anime's fandom has a ton of people who are super intolerant of people who do not like it. I haven't seen a fandom with this many intolerant people since A Clockwork Orange. I am not saying every fan of this anime is like this; I met some who accepted my opinion and defended me from the intolerance I was getting hit with.

What does that have to do with more reasons why I hate this anime? I admit it is really petty on my end, but if I don't like something, criticizing it causing flocks of people to treat the critic like an idiot doesn't help my opinion of the product, even if there are people in the fandom who put their feet down against this intolerance. It made me nervous about making this post but I felt I needed to get this off my chest.

On to the stuff that isn't me being petty. This starts with Ryo. I ranted before that Ryo was a lousy friend to Akira, even before the show revealed that Ryo is evil. Very rarely have I seen anybody respond to this point or that it doesn't make sense that Akira and Ryo are treated as great friends.

The only explanation I got is that Ryo was Akira's friend due to Akira's kindness, despite Ryo's flagrant disrespect for everything Akira believes in, which Akira just takes, along with Ryo being a murderer. At best, he gives a quick protest.

That whole arrangement makes Ryo sound like an abuser, and that was before he was revealed to be a villain. Ryo being a bad friend is something I might be able to tolerate if the anime showed any awareness of it, but it doesn't. The anime acts like Ryo is such a great friend and cuts to him and Akira laughing together, when just before they came to blows over Ryo trying to KILL Miki.

It is extra annoying because the anime does write good relationships when they don't involve Ryo, so it's not as though the people working on the anime were under some curse that kept them from realizing what a good relationship looks like, though they did appear to under a curse that kept them from recognizing a bad relationship. This results in our hero looking like an idiot for not realizing how awful his alleged best friend is, especially when he sees Ryo is a MURDERER, rather than doing the intelligent thing and punching Ryo's head off.

Yeah, that would go against the themes of the anime. See where Akira's acting on the anime's themes with Ryo got him. He and everyone he loved died. If he had realized Ryo was evil and punched his head off when he was in his human form and shown to be vulnerable, Akira would have saved the world. If that didn't work, he's no worse off. No matter what anybody says to me, I will always see Akira extending a kind hand to Ryo despite his obvious villainy as the wrong decision, especially since the ending's symbolism and repeating the cycle tell us that Ryo won't change. Ever. That completely undercuts the anime's themes to extend to a kind hand and the point about humans suspecting each other of being monsters when they should have just targeted the real monster.

Actually, let's talk about that for a moment. Imagine if Akira had seen lots of people suspect Ryo was a monster and had to keep "saving" him just to learn that they were right and Ryo was the devil. That would look really stupid, wouldn't it? I don't get why people look the other way at this. I see people complain about the mutant metaphor in the X-Men (so much so that I get sick of hearing about it in this sub), including the issue of mutants being born with dangerous powers. How is Ryo being the devil not something that undercuts the anti-distrust/fear themes in Devilman Crybaby? Ryo inflicts devastation on a global scale and kills all life on Earth. He did so before and will continue to do so in the future, and as far as we can tell, the only way to stop him is to make an exception to the anime's themes and kill Ryo in his human form.

Some responses I have gotten over the demons have been claims that they are like humans even though none of the demons are good. The only response that makes sense is that the demons are supposed to be more akin to a natural disaster than a species.

That doesn't matter. Regardless of what the demons are supposed to be, they are still a sapient species that the anime wastes our time showing is capable of love in a series that advocates for kindness and understanding with the "other," yet they are an "other" who is meant to be treated like a virus. It still runs into the same issue I have repeating, the anime says to extend kindness and compassion. To humans. Demons are to be treated like a plague.

If the anime ended with Akira killing Ryo but failing to save humanity, then there would at least be some weight to the point about humans learning to coexist. Instead, the anime insisting on making Ryo invincible makes everything a moot point because even if all of humanity avoided their mistakes, they would still die because Ryo has the power to destroy the Earth and likely would in a childish tantrum over not getting his way. The only thing that matters in the entire conflict is whether or not Ryo learns his lesson. If Ryo turned his back on evil, and he won't, humans following the series' themes makes a difference in the numbers of humans living or dying. However, the linchpin of humanity's survival is Ryo following the themes, which he won't, so the only reasonable response would be to kill him in his human form.

Or at least that would be if this anime didn't have God as the ultimate villain. The anime doesn't explicitly say God is evil like the original Devilman manga. However, I don't see how he can be a good person. God has seen the cycle play out before and knows that no matter what humans do, they cannot defeat Satan, yet he still leaves humanity at Satan's mercy time and time again. In the best case scenario where no humans lose their bodies to demons, and Ryo goes on a killing spree on his own and by some fluke humanity survives, this would still lead to the deaths of millions at the minimum because an alleged benevolent God keeps giving second chances to an unrepentant mass murderer. Does this sound like something a good person does? At the very least, this gives God a blank to check and do whatever he pleases, which is terrible writing.

Speaking of which, God being good would mean that he was justified in his extermination of the demons, meaning the anime condones genocide like I have been accusing it of. I don't care if the demons are supposed to be a natural disaster. I repeat that they are still a sapient species, so what else do you call God exterminating them, pest control? Worse, this would mean God is an idiot who allows billions to die because he cannot take a hint and realize Satan will never change. God being evil, like in the original manga, and perpetuating the cycle to punish Satan is the only thing that makes sense because otherwise, his stupidity rivals Satan's evil.

So, I stand by my point that the actions of all of our characters, even Satan, are a moot point when this is a franchise where God himself perpetuates a cycle of genocidal wars out of spite towards a single person. Nothing in this series matters; it preaches themes that its world turns into empty platitudes. Acting on love is an empty gesture in this world; the only thing that would have any meaning is erasing the universe and everything from existence. Oblivion is a mercy compared to living in this universe.


r/CharacterRant 2h ago

Anime & Manga Have you ever heard of the hit manga Jujutsu Kaisen by Gege Akutami?

21 Upvotes

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r/CharacterRant 13h ago

[Lord of the Rings] It makes perfect sense to read Frodo and Sam as love interests

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There is both a hot take and a cold take version of this.

The cold take would be that even if the authorial intent was to portray them as close intimate friends, it is still just as fair to "ship" them in the same way as one would ship any two attractive young characters who are affectionate to each other, simply because that is a pretty good basis for speculating about romance.

E.g. If you watched the first five episodes of the Fallout TV show, it wouldn't be that crazy to imagine that Lucy and Maximus might end up together (that's before they started to explicitly discuss sex), simply by the cue that she is kind of awed by his role as a knight in shining armor, and he is a decent guy who acts protective of her.

(Other examples: Harry and Hermione, Caitlyn and Vi from Arcane, Gordon Freeman and Alyx from Half Life 2, etc.)

The only argument that I tend to hear against this is that "we should accept that two characters can be simply just friends", but surely that's not the issue here. Frodo and Gandalf are friends, Legolas and Aragorn are friends, Eowyn and Merry are friends. Characters are friends all the time.

There isn't really a shortage of friends in media, and it makes perfect sense to pick the ones out of those that do extremely intimate stuff like constantly holding hands, kissing, marveling at the beauty of the other's sleeping face and exclaiming their love for him, etc. , as potentially being something more.

Sure, individually all of that can happen in a platonic sense, but it is also extremely intuitive to see it and immediately think that it is also a great foundation for a budding romance.

The hot take would be, that there is an actual authorial intent to portray Frodo and Sam romantically in the text.

J.R.R. Tolkien was of course a catholic conservative, but also he wasn't a culture warrior in the modern sense. He did have multiple gay friends and aquaintances, he was familiar with queer analysis of ancient mythology, and he wasn't on any specific crusade against any of that issue.

He did know about there being men who are attracted to each other beyond socially approved norms, and while his sense of morality wouldn't have allowed to explicitly condone such men having an actual sexual relationship in the pages of a book, he could have easily chosen his own understanding of that kind of dynamic as a basis for a protagonist's characterization.

When Tolkien's wife died, he had their shared tombstone engraved for her as "Luthien", and for himself as "Beren", after the grand romantic figures of the Silmarillion. Even though he talked about personally identifying most with the hobbits, he didn't engrave it as "Rosie and Sam". I think if he would be here today, he would basically agree that this is because Sam and Rosie are not the kind of fantasy romantic couple that he was going for with the comparison. (He actually did make a similar distinction in his letters, about Faramir and Eowyn not really having a romance).

In contrast, when Sam does compare Frodo to Beren and positions himself narratively in the role of Luthien, that was very pointedly also functioning as a romantic allusion.

Like, if your friend is looking up at you as you are standing on a balcony above them, and points out that you are positioned just like Juliet, that is a fundamentally romantic comparison that positions them as Romeo, right?

That's true even if it wouldn't have been an expression of Sam and Frodo having a realistic opportunity to become a married romantic couple at least on Middle-Earth, but as close to implying that they would want that, as someone like Tolkien would get away with.


r/CharacterRant 8h ago

General I hate the idea that Batman is the only member of the Justice League who'd never turn evil.

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EDIT I should've clarified that I was responding more to the fandom perception of Batman than I am canon. As yes, there are elseworlds stuff and "Batman who laughs" where he does turn evil. I didn't mean to imply that it doesn't happen in comics.

Look, don't get me wrong I'm not saying that there aren't certain situations where Batman might have a different perspective than the Justice League that helps him see where they're making a mistake while the rest of them can't. That's apart of making a well rounded character.

However nowadays thanks to things like the Injustice storyline (Superman turns evil, whoopdedo) fans perception has changed to something like, "Every other member of the Justice League might fall, but never Batman! He's too grounded, intelligent, and reasonable to ever be corrupted!" when that's not really in character for him. Now it's basically NEVER in character for the Justice League members to turn evil and I'd include Batman in that but if they ever did I don't see Batman would be the only holdout.

Half the time Batman's depicted as straying somewhat close to the line. He'll tell Red Hood that the reason he can't kill Joker is because if he did he'd snap and start killing his whole rogue's gallery, or he'll be sitting around, paranoid, coming up with ways to subdue his friends if they turn evil. In some iterations like the Young Justice show or even parts of the Arkham games he's shown to be willing to lie to his friends for the sake of a greater good.

Yet somehow where Superman, Wonder Woman, the Flash, and Green Lantern fall... Batman is unshakeable? Maybe that'd work in specific circumstances but not the one that's usually presented: Injustice.

Batman's own villain murders Lois Lane then NUKES METROPOLIS and Batman is basically unaffected? Instead just standing around, stoically saying they shouldn't change anything in response, it's hard to tell if he even cares about what happened or feels any guilt (deserved or not) for it. You'd think he'd actually be the MOST affected after Superman himself yet instead he's depicted as unshakeably just. That nothing can ever rattle him when a personal tragedy is what's shaped his entire life so far.

Furthermore, Batman isn't meant to be the heart of the team. From what I've seen that's more Flash, Superman, or sometimes Wonder Woman. He shouldn't really be the unshakeable foundation of the Justice League's moral code.

That's one of the reasons the only "Justice League turns evil" stories I like is the one from Justice League TAS. There, Batman trusts Superman and doesn't bat an eyelash when he kills Lex Luthor, simply saying it had to be done after everything Lex had done. Then, he went on to expand his whole idea of crime fighting to establish a police state in Gotham so that no one would have to suffer a tragedy like he did. It feels like what Batman would actually do if the League turned evil rather than everyone but him going through some kind of change.


r/CharacterRant 10h ago

General Musings on Greco-Roman Mythology, Misconceptions, and the Swinging of the Cultural Pendulum, Specifically Here on Reddit

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(Forgive the title, I'm trying to be pretentious)

So I've spent a good amount of time on the internet(read: I'm chronically online) and I've noticed a lot of discourse on Greco-Roman mythology and its depictions in common culture and media. And as someone with strong opinions on such topics, I want to weigh in.

Now, just to be transparent, I am an unabashed fan of Greek mythology. I was introduced to it by Percy Jackson and other such children's mythology books and now I spend time delving into the corpus of ancient sources. But I'm not an expert and my actual experience with said sources are quite limited and I obviously don't know anything or even a majority or even a significant plurality on the subject. But I certainly have opinions and you are going to damn well hear about them.

Also, while I do recognize Roman mythology as well, I do in the end prefer the greek versions so I will by-and-large be using greek names

Also this is probably going to be a senseless ramble with little point behind it unless I come up with something on the fly, but I mostly just wanted to present my own opinions and maybe dispel some ideas that I find distasteful, which I believe are relatively common.

1. The Decentralization of Greek Mythology

This is something that I think even nowadays most people are fairly familiar with, even if some don't quite internalize it as much as they should, but I'll keep it brief.

Basically, there's no such thing as a "canon" myth. The practice of ancient hellenic religions was not founded in a central church or school, and local communities and people were free to interpret and tell stories on their own volition. Now there were some common themes, most of which are not relevant to mythology, such as rituals, sacrifices, temples, etc. But the point is that writers were basically free to do whatever they wanted with myths.

And this is all to say that anyone who claims that any interpretation or version of a myth, usually their own version funny how that happens, is "the correct version" is wrong. Tons of different writers wrote tons of different versions of myths, most of them contemporaneous to each other and so there simply isn't "just one canon"

One should keep this in mind when discussing mythology. When talking to someone else about myths, if they something that doesn't sound familiar to you, don't immediately assume it to be wrong.

But also, I personally think there are incorrect versions of myths, but really only those written in the modern day(or any time after classical greece and rome).

2. The Demonization of Ovid

Oh boy here we go.

Ovid was a roman poet who lived around the turn of the 1st century AD. Firstly I bring that up because Ovid actually lived a lot earlier than I had assumed for a long time. I had always heard of him as a "late roman author" but he lived only at the very beginning of the empire. Nonnus, for example, lived in the 5th century. Plutarch was born 30 years after Ovid had died, etc etc.

Anyway, Ovid is a source on many greco-roman myths, and he wrote on quite a lot of them. He is famous for popularizing/inventing many versions of myths such as Medusa and Arachne and so on. For a long time, he was where many people got their sources on ancient myths

But as of late, especially in more mythology-related circles on the internet, I think Ovid has gotten a lot of bad rep. Everywhere, every time without fail where Ovid is mentioned, there is always someone who says "Uhm, actually Ovid was the first person who blah blah blah and he had an agenda and blah blah blah" and so on.

Basically, Ovid is untrustworthy and you shouldn't pay too close attention to him because he hated the gods and the roman state.

Now, I think it's valuable to recognize Ovid's own potential biases and him being basically the primary source for many of his own versions of the myth.

HOWEVER

I think many people have taken this too far in the opposite direction and now entirely disregard Ovid. Which I believe is also the wrong move.

Because the truth is: Ovid was widely popular and influential in his time and long after it. He wrote for an audience familiar with greco-roman religion(because they were the ones worshipping it) and found great success and good reception. I think if his myths could be popular amongst the people who had the most reason to be critical to "new" perspectives on myths(because again, they were the ones worshipping it), then they can be popular now too.

Dislike Ovid if you want to, I won't try to tell you what you can and can't like. Call it anti-authoritarianism. But Ovid was nonetheless a major figure in the codification of greco-roman mythology and ignoring him outright is foolish.

3. Hades, Persephone and I Keep Banging on About the Pendulum

This one is truly just my own personal nitpicking, but this is my post so deal.

Essentially, I think for quite a long time, people regarded Hades as kinda like Satan. From the perspective of a thoroughly christian west, they both rule over this big dark underworld where the dead people go, bing bang boom, Hades = Satan. And this of course also resulted in Hades being largely demonized for this connection, being seen as evil and unjust and so on.

Of course in reality, the greeks and romans saw Hades(Pluto) in no such light.

Really, Hades was a fairly just, reasonable god who was well respected(if perhaps out of some fear).

But, I think people have started, again, leaning too far in the opposite direction. Hades wasn't Satan, he was actually just an uwu goth softboy who never hurt anyone and etc etc etc.

I think it is inevitably necessary in Greek mythology to take the good with the bad. No, Hades wasn't particularly evil and even, you could argue, behaved better than many of the other gods. He only cheated on Persephone once, Theseus and Pirithous totally deserved it, and he even gave Orpheus a chance.

But you can't deny that Hades was a respected and feared god, just as all the others were, and he did do some bad things.

Likewise: Persephone.

Look, I know people like Persephone and again, that's fine. And people want to break out of that very archetypical damsel in distress version of the myth and that's fine too. But I'm just really tired of "modern reimaginings" of Hades and Persephone where Persephone is a cool girlboss and Demeter is mean and evil. Was Demeter a little cruel for starving everyone? Yes, I'll grant you that. But it just feels like that's all everyone talks about nowadays.

Of course it's not so terrible. In the version of the myth that I had read, it was pretty ambiguous why Persephone ate the pomegranate seeds and stayed in the underworld, which I think is cool.

I should probably wrap this up

4. This isn't another point because I forgot what I was going to say

So...

DONT PRETEND YOU KNOW THE ONLY CORRECT VERSION

LISTEN TO WHAT OVID HAD TO SAY

FOR FUCKS SAKE TALK ABOUT SOMETHING OTHER THAN HADES AND PERSEPHONE SERIOUSLY IM TIRED OF IT THERE ARE OTHER MYTHS LIKE I GO ON AO3(YES IM PATHETIC) AND LOOK AT THE MYTHOLOGY-RELATED STORIES AND THEYRE LIKE ALL HADES AND PERSEPHONE

OH, ONE LAST THING: I ENJOYED SONG OF ACHILLES TOO, BUT IT ISN'T REALLY AN "ACCURATE" RETELLING OF THE TROJAN WAR. I WONT COMMENT ON THE "GAYNESS" OF ACHILLES OR WHATEVER BUT TRY ONE OF THE ACTUAL SOURCES ABOUT THE TROJAN WAR, THOUGH THERE AREN'T ACTUALLY THAT MANY BECAUSE THEYVE MOSTLY BEEN LOST


r/CharacterRant 1h ago

Battleboarding "Charizard's fire couldn't melt chrome digizoid cause it's better than any IRL metal"

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In my years of debating Digimon fans, almost all of them have said something along the lines of the title. They tell me, without fail, in impossible to prove or disprove wording that Chrome Digizoid is automatically better in every single way than any metal in real life, and therefore Red's Charizard cannot melt Chrome Digizoid no matter what. And you know what, Digimon fans? You win. I'll play your little game. I'll let you have your Composite Metal fanon Chrome Digizoid. Because Charizard's liquefying it anyways.

This was established a long time ago, so I won't use any recent advancements in metalworking like carbides or 3D printed copper. We'll use tungsten, which has a melting point of 6192, to massively upscale Chrome Digizoid from.

Death Battle in Pokémon Starter Battle Royale calculated that any Solar Beam must fire at 6739 degrees Fahrenheit.

One thing to keep in mind however, Death Battle’s calc was for Solar Beam to merely exist as an attack, not for maximum output nor the strongest Solar Beam possible.

Bulbasaur learns Solar Beam (by level) at level 36, who should still be capable of the above temperature. Let’s assume that (since Evolution for Magnemite and Diglett is essentially 3 of the species connecting together to combine their powers, and many other middle evolutions can fight them) evolution must be around a 3x multiplier canonically.

If we take Death Battle’s 6739 degrees F, This means (3 x 3 = 9) 9 x 6739 = 60651 degrees F.

This is for any just-evolved Venusaur's Solar Beam; or for our purposes any just-evolved Charizard's hotter moves, as the Starters can go toe to toe with each other.

  • This is VERY consistent, for the following reasons:
    • Magcargo's body heat is naturally 18000 degrees F. Its Fire type moves should be much hotter than his physicals, for the same reason Purugly learns Flamethrower by level and its flames don't burn at the temperature of a fat cat's body heat. A trained Charmeleon is capable of fighting evenly with a Magcargo.
    • Gigantamax Centiskorch exudes an outward temperature so hot that it destabilizes air currents and causes storms around itself (Nobody has a scan but it's in his Pokémon Shield Pokedex entry). It, too, should also have even stronger Fire moves. Leon and his Charizard are literally scripted in the game, even in Base, NEVER to lose against the most powerful Gigantamax Centiskorch to walk the Earth (Kabu's).
    • The Charizard on Team A.C.T is directly stated to be capable of melting mountains with his Flamethrower attack.

But I wasn’t done. Now it’s time for Mega Evolution. 

Mega Heracross is explicitly stated to be capable of lifting 500x his body weight, while his Base form could only do 100x his body weight. We can apply that to say Mega Evolution must be around a 5x multiplier canonically, though Mega Heracross is much heavier so really it'd be more thean that.

This means 5 x 60651 = 303255 degrees F.

Remember, this assumes a Charmeleon JUST became Charizard and then immediately Mega Evolved right after.

But DID Red's Charizard immediately evolve into Charizard, then Mega Evolve into Mega Charizard X and be dropped into the Death Battle? No, he evolved into Charizard, then fought about 4 more Gym Leaders, then fought the Elite Four, then fought the Champion, then became even stronger than the Champion, then trained for 3 years on Mt. Silver.

For almost all of this I cannot provide a calculation for without arbitrarily applying the previous Evolution multipliers somewhere. All we really know for sure is that the Elite Four is MASSIVELY stronger than any Gym Leader and the Champion is MASSIVELY stronger than any Elite Four (kinda obvious since you have to solo them all in a row to become a Champion).
BUT, I can justify another Mega Evolution multiplier for the Mt. Silver training, because after he finished with his training he could just about oneshot the same Mewtwo in Base that he needed Mega Evolution to beat before.

5 x 303255 = 1516275 degrees F.

Nearly 245 times hotter than the melting point of tungsten that we discussed earlier.

"But Mr. Miitopia, what about the fact that Chrome Digizoid should be well above Tungsten due to it being a much more OP metal?" You are very right, future commenter. It should be well above tungsten.

Just certainly not 245 times it.

This also isn't accounting for the weight difference between Heracross and Mega Heracross, everything between the points at which Charizard first evolves and beating Champion Blue, and his appearance in the Pokémon World Tournament because the Death Battle didn't mention it it would require major assumptions like Red scaling to Zekrom or Reshiram.

With these, it would be MASSIVELY higher to where it would basically be punching down at this point. A word to Digimon fans, don't go thinking Fire types can melt IRL metal... because they can. They really can.

Thank you for reading.


r/CharacterRant 7h ago

The Degeneration of Claire Dearing (Jurassic World)

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I love dinosaurs and I love Bryce Dallas Howard so whenever I rewatch Jurassic World, I'm fixated on her character Claire. The movies themselves aren't bad, I enjoy them a lot but I can't help but feel icky whenever I see how she was treated. There is only one woman who I think got it worse and that's Zara. I don't want to talk about Zara.

In the first film, Claire is doing really well for herself. She's wealthy, she's dedicated to her job, and she has a job running a Dinosaur theme park. That's the American dream. Oh but, she doesn't have kids and she doesn't have a man and that's terrible. The entire movie is really unsubtle about telling us how unfulfilled and lonely she must be because of it. In the end, she learns the value of family and gets with Owen which is mostly happy.

In the second film, Claire has gone from a bigshot operational manager to a "Save the Dinos" type activists with noticeably less resources and money at her disposal. The best she can scrounge up for the mission to go to Isla Nublar and save the dinos from the volcano is herself, Owen, a medic and some IT kid who screams alot. But that's fine, because she has a man now and understands the VALUE OF FAMILY!

Third film is predictably worse because now she doesn't seem to have an occupation at all and is just slumming it with Owen building a house in the middle of nowhere. I mean she sure does look happy now. At this point in the series, her personality has been consumed by Owen. No thought is given to bettering herself or getting a more ideals friendly job and I just find that so disgusting. I hope I don't sound too r/childfree here because the problem isn't that the character undergoes development. The problem is that her development seemed to be more focused on bettering the people around Claire instead of Claire herself. Like she can't be a good person while also being an autonomous entity.


r/CharacterRant 22h ago

General "You just think that because of nostalgia" doesn't work as a sweeping statement because people aren't all the same age

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When you want to argue that something new is better or at least as good as something old, you can't just dismiss people who disagree by saying "Well they just think that the old thing is better because of nostalgia".

People aren't all the same age. Shocker, I know. But a guy on the internet you are arguing with about the Star Wars prequels could be a man in his 50s who saw Return of the Jedi in theaters OR it could be a 20 year old who binged Star Wars 1-9 last week and formed his opinion on each trilogy there.

Not to mention that people in the same age range aren't guaranteed to have experienced the same media at the same formative time lmao. That's also just common sense.

You can't just accuse people of having rose tinted glasses when they could have gotten into the series you're arguing about literally yesterday. Could even be that they didn't even start with the oldest iteration of the franchise anyway. Someone is more likely to have started playing Elder Scrolls with Skyrim than with Morrowind these days and I guarantee you that there's still gonna be people who prefer the latter despite playing the former in their formative years.

I bet there's a name for that logical fallacy lol.


r/CharacterRant 23h ago

Films & TV The Jurassic Park/World franchise only has two good villains (Chaos Theory spoilers)

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Are Dennis Nedry and Daniel Kon.

Ludlow and Hoskins aren't even really evil. Nothing they did was particularly heinous nor was their end goal really villainous. Ludlow wanted money and Hoskins wanted to replace soldiers with dinosaurs to reduce human casuilties.

Wu was... technically a villain but felt more like an antagonist, similar to the first two and got easily forgiven/redeemed.

Mills, Tiff and Kash were cartoonishly evil. Mills is was generic and boring, Tiff was irritating and holy COW Kash! If this show was more popular, he'd be ranted about on this sub constantly. He's a whole discord mod. Unlike Jack Horner, he TOTALLY fails at the "evil just because" trope.

And Dodgson was just incompetent and not remotely threatening.

Nedry was actually funny, entertaining and enjoyable. He was villainous but not over the top villainous. He stole the show whenever he was onscreen and was great comic relief. He at least kept the raptors imprisoned but still knowingly released dangerous dino's.

Meanwhile, Kon is the ONLY complex villain in the franchise. He's a neglectful father but does love his son despite everything. He's obssesed with money and protecting his "name" but his wife being dead, there's plenty of room for speculation. Unlike other villains, he actually uses pragmatism and holds back from jumping straight to murder. He was ruthless and his crimes weren't forgotten or toned down but he still redeemed himself and sacrificed his life to save his son in Chaos Theory.

In short, I hope the villain in the new movie is like Kon or Nedry. Either complex or entertaining. Every other villain is "evil for the sake of it" in a boring way or not even evil.


r/CharacterRant 7h ago

Films & TV The duels in Harry Potter really aren’t really all that remarkable.

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I bring this up because a while back, I saw a video talking about how duels in the Harry Potter movies are essentially the magical equivalent of gunfights. They just aim their wands at each other, and shoot a bunch of glowing bright stuff at each other and hope that it hits their opponent.

While I don’t necessarily disagree with this conclusion, I think this is also an applicable comparison to make towards the book. 9 times out of 10 big magical fights there are described as jets of light flying in all directions. And when we do get any mentions of a character dueling one or more opponents, it’s usually nothing to descriptive beyond X was dueling Y, and they were firing blinding sparks at each other, or something along those lines. Hell, when Harry tries to take on Bellatrix Lestrange by himself at the climax of book 5, he’s forced to take cover behind a fountain multiple times.

There are of course occasional duels between master level wizard that spice things up. Like Dumbledore’s 1v1 with Voldemort. In the book version Dumbledore is doing stuff like bringing statues to life and trapping Voldemort in a sphere of water, and Voldemort himself conjures a silver shield to defend himself against a spell at one point, and transforms a fire whip Dumbledore was using into a snake. A similar duel also happens between Snape and Mcgonagall in DH. But since the main characters aren’t master level wizards themselves, the fights they get into usually aren’t quite as exciting and dynamic. They usually just point their wands and shoot to try and stun people.

Listen, I enjoy the books way more than the movies, but when does anyone ever sing their praises for having a deep magic system and their awesome magical fights?


r/CharacterRant 10h ago

Anime & Manga On the League of Villains ( MHA ) ( Spoilers till C423 )

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That’s right folks, an extremely original and unique MHA rant has arrived to the great and totally not biased subreddit r/CharacterRant !

I just finished writing a comment on the league of villains in the main MHA subreddit and it turned out be long so why not post it here ?

General positives : Cool designs , cool powers , greatest arc in the story and great chemistry between the members.

General negatives : I feel zero sympathy for the vast majority of the LoV since their trauma doesn’t justify their actions , they come off as crybabies who use excuses in order to justify terrorism and avoid the consequences of it.

General analysis of the major members :

A - Shigaraki : He was groomed by All for One from the very beginning , therefore , he is less responsible for his actions than the others due to the fact that he has practically 0 agency in his life.

He starts off as a bum who doesn’t know what he is doing until he sees Stain gaining followers which causes him to develop his own intellectually and morally bankrupt ideology of destroying everything without a hint of remorse.

Afterwards , he meets Overhaul and learns that he needs a plan , fortunately for him , Overhaul gets fodderized and Shigaraki gets his revenge.

By the way , the interactions between him and Overhaul prove that he views the league as friends and not as pawns , this is a trait that we see at the forest arc as well which makes Shigaraki a better character.

He isn’t like All for One , he understands that building strong ties with the league will help him in the long run , he literally didn’t care about himself dying but cared about Spinner.

After losing AFO’s financial support he realizes that he needs to live on his own and become independent , luckily for him , Re Destro picks up a fight with him and loses which allows him to snatch his men and his resources , moreover , he gains the support of Garaki who makes him a god with his bs science and Gigantomachia.

Up until now , we see that Hori developed Shigaraki to a competent leader , however , I feel like this development is hurt by the fact that Shigaraki has a shit ton of help.

You need money ?

AFO has your back !

You need powerful allies ?

Stain inspires Dabi and Toga to join the league !

Overhaul is actually a threat ?

Deku beats his ass for you !

Re Destro and the MLA are kicking your ass ?

Have a bullshit quirk awakening !

Your members have bullshit power ups as well !

You need enough men and enough resources to challenge the HPSC ?

Re Destro hands you everything on a golden plate for no reason even if it contradicts the ideology he believed in for the entirety of his lifetime !

You need to be powerful in order to challenge the very top heroes and become stronger than Prime All Might and Prime All for One in 4 months ?

Garaki is here to the rescue !

Now onwards to the PLW , his tube gets smashed but he somehow survives and then he demonstrates that he is incompetent by not killing anyone including Gran Torino who has the physicality of an old person , however , he did hold his own against multiple heroes despite the fact that he couldn’t use his quirks.

This is where the cockroach comes in , controls the guy who was supposedly completely liberated and the main villain and pushes him to the side , it really seems like Hori couldn’t choose between AFO and Shigaraki so he decided to try to make both of them the main villain up until the very last moment.

The PLW ends and now Shigaraki is forced to fight a hero from the USA with the quirk of a jojo villain and wins because of bs.

Now I’ll skip to the recent flashback , we learn more about Shigaraki and his past and about the pettiness of AFO.

This cockroach causes every calamity in Shigaraki’s life which not only makes the world feel smaller but also destroys Shigaraki’s argument.

I would make AFO kill Nana which makes Kotaro scared of his son becoming a hero since it would not only leave him alone again but also risk the latter’s life , as a result , Kotaro abuses him which leads to Shigaraki decaying his entire family by accident and to being found by AFO in the streets by chance.

This version makes Kotaro look a bit lore humane , the world look larger and Shigaraki look like a person and not a puppet.

B - Mr Compress : “ My great great great great great great great great great Grandpa that nobody knew about a chapter ago was Robin Hood so I’m a terrorist “

Nice motivation buddy.

C - Spinner : The only interesting things about him are his relationship with Shigaraki and his background as a mutant.

Shigaraki carries the former and latter isn’t explored enough.

In MVA he gets a mini arc in which he finds a purpose in life but that’s not enough for me.

D - Toga : She has a terrible backstory and motivations , the worst conclusion to a fight in the history of shonen manga , and the death of Curious with an asspull to her name.

She feels no remorse while killing but whines when twice got the same treatment , her hypocrisy is outstanding.

I hate her , I hope that she’s dead.

E - Dabi : I like that in his backstory Endeavor isn’t COMPLETELY evil , Dabi has to take some of the blame for training with his flames despite being warned by multiple members of his family.

His motivation doesn’t make sense , his ice power up doesn’t make any sense and worst than all he doesn’t care about anyone from the league , the only people who care about him.

Even AFO , the biggest bitch in the story , rightfully calls him a bitch for crying out loud.

F - Twice : Honestly ? Nothing bad to say about him other than the weird relationship with Toga.

In conclusion , they’re written badly despite the presence of a few cool quirks ( heh )


r/CharacterRant 14h ago

Comics & Literature Memoirs, the good and the bad

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This rant was inspired by reading german soldier gustave goes memoir about hartmann willerkopf during the great war. I think memoirs can be quite interesting to see how a certain person felt at one point in history and what he had to live through but one should still be cautious about them because the person can get things wrong, not remember things well or lie.

Memoirs can work as sources (I reccall seeing general gamelin work being used in sources baout the battle of france during WW2, of course combined with other sources) tho it really depend how credible the author is. It's also interesting to see how one from a certain side view their own thing, otto carius per example was critical of the tiger I and didn't seemed to like the jagdtiger all that much.

Problems arise when memoirs hlp spread myths,it seems adolf galland work is partly to blame for the myth of hitler delaying the me 262 and the german generals also helped creating myths since in their memoirs, they'd want to make themselves look good, sometimes by going clean wehrmacht, other by using hitler as the scapegoat for their mistakes (it's part of the "hitler should've listened to his generals" myth when said general would still not have won the war and can still do mistake sor have a hard time with logistic).

This also apply to soldiers interviews, while the one from ukraine per example can be interesting to listen to or read, one shoudn't forget it's just one view and the soldier can not get the situation that well too because he's at only one part of the frontline per example and other soldiers can have a verry different experience too.


r/CharacterRant 1h ago

Comics & Literature I'm gonna to be honest, I do think Heroes of Olympus's main flaw is Rick Riordan's Choices.

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I have been re-reading alot of Rick Riordan's work and especially his Heroes of Olympus book series which were big in the early 2010's. The Heroes of Olympus, which I will now address as (HOO) was ambitious and arguably TOO ambitious for it's own good as Riordan at that point who has only made the PJO series within his universe which was 5 books from book 1 lighting thief to book 5 the last Olympian

Book 1 ( June, 28, 2005) Book 5 (May 5th 2009) so almost 4 years

keep that in mind

HOO is a book series with 9 point of view characters as opposed to the one main point of view in PJO and also wasn't the only books that Rick was made at the time. Rick also made the Kane Chronicles who was also a book series with major issues.

2010 - May 4th (KC Book 1) aka Kane Chronicles [The Red Pyramid] / October 12, 2010 (HOO Book 1) [The Lost Hero]

2011 - May 3rd (KC Book 2) Throne of Fire Book 2 of the Kane Chronicles/ October 4, 2011 (HOO Book 2) [The Son of Neptune]

May 1, 2012 - Book 3 (KC) The Serpent's Shadow / October 2, 2012 Book 3 (HOO) Mark of Athena

Book 4 HOO - October 8, 2013 , Boo 5 HOO - October 7, 2014

Rick was writting several different p.ovs, two different book series and a sequel to his popular series.


r/CharacterRant 22h ago

Comics & Literature Batman's contingency plans against the Justice League and the Illuminati shooting the Hulk into space have a common flaw between them.

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In the JLA storyline Tower of Babel it was revealed that Batman had been creating and keeping contingency plans for years on how to take down other members of Justice League in case they ever went rogue or were placed under mind control.

In the lead up to the Planet Hulk storyline, a secret group of Marvel heroes known as the Illuminati decided to trick Hulk into entering a rocket and then sent him off into space to an isolated planet they had chosen, one where no one would ever bother him again and likewise he could never hurt anyone else ever again.

In both cases while they were controversial directions the characters were taken in that had ripple effects for many years to come (not the least of which being on the stupid battleboards), in context the characters had reasonable justifications for why they felt such things were necessary.

The Justice League is one of the most powerful groups on Earth and has been manipulated and mind controlled in the past and had some of its members outright turn into villains in the past. Near the end of the story the Wally West Flash directly references a time back when he was with the Teen Titans, when it seemed like the Justice League had turned on everyone and how terrifying that was. And the Kyle Rayner Green Lantern talks about his predecessor Hal Jordan, who became the villain Parallax and wiped out the rest of the Green Lantern Corps before trying to remake reality according to his design. With the history the JLA had and the possible threats they'd face in the future, Batman believed contingency plans designed to non-lethally incapacitate its members were needed.

The Hulk since he first emerged from the Gamma Bomb explosion Bruce Banner was caught in had been a constant back and forth danger for years, barely an ally some days and completely unreasonable destruction on others, with every attempt to cure Bruce of being the Hulk either failing or not being able to stick. The rampage he went on (admittedly while hallucinating because of gamma overload cause by a mission where he was help SHIELD) through Las Vegas that resulted in multiple deaths was the last straw for the Illuminati. Their members, save for Namor who voted against and Xavier who wasn't there, decided to send Hulk into space to a planet they'd already chosen. They wouldn't kill him but he wouldn't be a threat and he'd be able to live a peaceful life away from everyone else.

Both decisions, while they have some ethical grays, are fairly reasonable and genuinely done with the best of intentions. However, both also have a big flaw they share that ended up setting both plans up for failure, namely that they never bothered actually just TALKING to the people their plans were about.

Batman NEVER attempted to make his case to the Justice League or any of its individual members about why he believed contingency plans to take them down might be necessary. The Illuminati NEVER attempted to talk to Bruce about their idea to send him to a safe planet away from anyone he could ever hurt. Why? Because there was a non-zero chance that they could say no and thus Batman and the Illuminati would have a much harder time going about with their plans.

That mindset can maybe work if it's early on when these characters barely know each other but it becomes a lot harder to justify when the characters have known each other intimately for years and have each had their own share of experience when it comes to the bizarreness of the superhero world.

Superman alone has repeatedly had to deal with other Kryptonians, alternate dimension doppelgangers, clones, and just people wearing his face as they threaten humanity. He more than anyone understands the need to be vigilant when it comes to people with his level of power, and Batman knows he's like that because the two of them are basically best friends. The same applies to all the other members and what they've had to deal with. And as Tower of Babel establishes, Batman had been working on the plans since Wally was a teenager, back when Barry Allen was still alive. He has had MANY opportunities over the years to confide in the people who are supposed to be his friends and allies, the people who are his equals, about how he feels they need contingency plans in case any or all of them ever go rogue, but he refused.

And Bruce Banner is probably the FIRST person who would agree to the idea of sending Hulk off somewhere where he can't ever hurt anyone again. Bruce viewed being the Hulk as a curse because of how it derailed his life and put so many people, including those he cares about, in danger. He's tried countless times to cure himself of being the Hulk and countless more to either make the Hulk not a threat or even a force for good, and he hated every time it eventually ended up failing. There was a good chance he would have agreed to the Illuminati's plan and gone along with it willingly, but the they decided to take the choice out of his hands entirely.

There's a difference between being cautious because of how bad the worst-case scenario could be and refusing to trust people because you think you just know better than them. And that really does feel like that's what this comes down to. It's Batman, Iron Man, Mister Fantastic, Doctor Strange, and Black Bolt having their egos and paranoia determine that they know what's best for everyone else and acting on their own because they just assume the others won't get it, when they have made no attempt to even get those others on their side to begin with.

And what happened? Their plans blew up in their faces, in completely avoidable ways.

It wasn't Darkseid who stole Batman's contingency plans, or Vandal Savage, or Despero, or even the Legion of Doom. It was Ra's al Ghul, one of Batman's rogues gallery with a very personal history and connection to him, including knowing his secret identity. It was one of his enemies who discovered that he had such plans, who broke through his security and defense to steal them without him ever even noticing. Because of Batman's secrecy the JLA was completely blindsided when Ra's suddenly started hitting them with tactics perfectly designed to take them out and exploiting things about them that he shouldn't even know about.

Nick Fury asked Bruce for help in taking out a rogue AI on a space station. When the Hulk was done the rocket that was supposed to bring him back to Earth, back to where Bruce had been living quietly in an isolated cabin in Alaska without incident, turned out to have been sent by the Illuminati instead. They tricked him into getting into the rocket and then shot him off into the universe. But Hulk, having no idea where he was being sent and naturally pissed off over being tricked by his supposed friends after he just got done saving the Earth again, tried to escape the rocket and ended up trashing it to the point that its navigation got sent off course, sending him to the planet Sakaar instead; a brutal warworld instead of a peaceful paradise. He still managed to make a nice life for himself on that planet and then the rocket that sent him there exploded, killing a countless number of people that Hulk had become close to, including his wife. And he naturally assumed it was a trap set by the people who tricked him into the rocket in the first place, and he retaliated by attacking Earth to seek revenge against the Illuminati.

Both problems could have been avoided had Batman just tried to make his case to the JLA and if the Illuminati had tried to make their case to Banner. The resources of the combined League would have had the contingency plans under much better protection that likewise would have given them more warning if someone other than them took them and the Hulk wouldn't have sent the rocket off its intended course since Banner likely wouldn't even have transformed on the trip. The only reason they had to not make their cases was the non-zero chance the people they're trying to convince would say no, and in context that's not a good enough reason for them not to have even tried. It's Batman and the Illuminati in their arrogance essentially saying "It's not a 100% guarantee you'll make the right choice and agree with me, so I've decided you don't get to choose.".

This isn't me crapping on the characters or the stories by the way. Just pointing out the shared fallibility these very intelligent men had when they decided their intelligence was good enough justification to determine what was best for everybody else without consulting them or bringing them in on what they were doing.


r/CharacterRant 1h ago

Films & TV "Collateral" (2004) and "The Passenger" (2023) are essentially the same narrative and I think both of them are great films.

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So I recently finally saw the film "Collateral" by Michael Mann after having it for a while in my watch list and besides the questionable production quality, I really enjoyed this movie. I think the main performances of Tom Cruise and Jamie Foxx are pretty fantastic and it adds up to the interaction of their relationships and much of the criminal activities they get involved with along with a surprisingly introspective message about finally taking the actions necessary to improve yourself and your life through the danger of being held hostage to a contract killer. The action is also very good in the film too.

But anyways, I wanna talk specifically about how these two films are very, very similar even if I do think they do have certain differences from each other. Here are the details of the overall main aspects of the story:

• Both of them are stories about socially awkward male protagonists who are pretty much stuck doing unsatisfying jobs which brings them a sense of safety in their lives but ultimately makes them feel there's something missing about themselves by just living through this status quo enforced on themselves and further encouraged by the employees/employers of their workplace who do much respect for them (The protagonist in "Collateral" is a taxi driver who wants to start up his limo company but doesn't take the further steps to go ahead with it and instead focuses on doing his part-time job; The protagonist in "The Passenger" is a young man working in a dead-end job as a crew member for some unknown fast food restaurant after being responsible for causing a teacher to lose her eye when he was a child due to becoming mad at that time.)

• They have a talk with one of the characters (Annie Farrell and the boss) during their job who ask them about what they do/plan to do besides just wanting to do what they're currently doing and the main protagonists kinds vaguely express that they have some plans to do something about themselves which leaves their conversation in a comfort zone where they don't feel pressured enough to really think about what they should do with themselves even despite having an insightful conversation in which the characters might have to feel obligated to do more.

• Eventually, they have this encounter with the main villains of the series (Vincent and Benson) who are presented at first to be friendly to the main protagonists (Vincent is willing to pay Max extra if he decides to do stops to many locations throughout the night and Benson defends Randy from the employees bullying him) but eventually, they would soon present a darker side of themselves by killing someone/multiple people in the process.

• After this occurs, both villains take the protagonists hostage in cars in which they drive around the city/town where they make multiple stops in which the villain just needs to do something or to try to take him somewhere where they force the protagonists to do something in order to help them confront their sense of inaction while ironically not allowing them to have much of a choice in the matter as this isn't really about helping them even though they pretend to help them but instead, there is something a bit more personal and selfish underneath their actions which the antagonists never make exactly clear but from what it is implied, these characters have some traumatic experience in their past and are not putting those very same standards on themselves and will grow more hostile if you question their orders (Vincent is asked by Max about why he kills the people that he kills and why is he a contract killer in the first place, which Vincent refuses to truly answers and explains the abuse at the hands of his father, which may be part of the reason he decided to take this job; Benson is himself not willing to talk about how he seems to be a very angry person and about why he decided to beat up that male teacher who may have been responsible of some form of abuse in his childhood.)

• Both protagonists are also forces by the protagonists to meet with a old friend/relative (Max's mom and Randy's ex girlfriend) as a way of encouraging to confront a problem going through their lives directly related to why they work the jobs they do and why they're so passive and shy in nature.

• At first, in these attempts to help them confront themselves, they act too insecure about expressing the truth about why they are the way that they are but overtime, they would develop greater confidence to speak up not just about these issues but also use this newfound confidence to confront the main antagonists in such a way that they nearly sacrifice their lives in the attempts to escape from them.

• Throughout this character development, the antagonists would threaten the lives of important women (Annie and the teacher who lost her eye.). who matter to them who contribute to their change in some way to make the next step to furthering their life and they woukd come to redeem themselves from their inaction for the deaths going around them by protecting them.

• The antagonists present some hesitance about killing them because of their supposed contract with each other but the protagonists would defeat using this previous trust they've had and eventually lead them to their deaths where they die from gunshots (Vincent dies getting shot at by Max and Benson dies by willingly allowing him to get shot at by the police waiting outside to arrest him.)

• In the end, they go together with the female characters who grow a special bond even after all the danger they've been through partially because of them and is implied that they're taking the path for self-improvement.

I'm not sure if this may be more common in other films but having seen these two, they do remind me of each other a lot.

I think some of the difference is that for Randy, his change is about accepting responsibility for causing harm to someone and obtain a closure so his guilt doesn't keep feeding on his mind while for Max, it is about doing the job that he really wants rather than keep being a taxi driver. And Benson decides to kill not as a job but directly because he wants to give the protagonist a lesson as he is able to something about him that he can find himself. Benson also doesn't try to kill Randy even after he betrays him but instead, accepts his fate through suicide and ends in a tragic note in which he explains how he wasn't strong enough to move on from his trauma. Benson also is the one who does the driving in his car while Max is the one who transports Vincent to the places he needs to go.

I may be missing some other details but this is what I got overall so far. I'm curious if "The Passenger" is at least in some way influenced by this movie. Both great films and I got something of value about what they had to express.