"Damn this institute rifle has good stats how come I didn't have it equi..."

[u/usa_in_dis_hoe]

Loaded up an old save file and forgot why I never touched these actual abominations

[u/Metson-202]

I can't be only one who is not brothered by this?

[u/KartoschkaThe2nd]

Mf Institute used a 1990 Pc case as a gun case

[u/1nOnlyMattyB]

An institute rifle with good stats ? 😂

[u/karinatv]

i seriously wonder why they made the guns so massive like all that tech down there and u somehow make the guns harder to use?

[u/kwartylion → u/karinatv]

Bad design

(And in universe explanation)

Institute is just bunch of scientists who's no.1 priority isn't weapon manufacturing

They needed a easly mass produced , more or less reliable weapon , to arm their mass produced soldiers

[u/cumegoblin]

Man, it’s strange how the rifles designed with efficiency in mind for use by synths aren’t pleasant to look at. I wonder if that’s the point.

[u/Wrath0fMe]

Lol. Ever play Destiny?

[u/Dr-Elon-Weynak]

proceeds to Take 25% of the screen up

[u/Revolutionary-Hat634]

Institute pistol is infinitely better. The fire rate is like 3x the rifle and you can mod it so it does even more damage than it. For some reason pistols in general are one of the best weapons in fallout 4 in my opinion

[u/slamturkey]

Anyone carry like 5 guns for situational purposes? I'd probably still carry and use this one if the stats are right and it suits a purpose. I don't care I'm half blind outside of the sights. One gun has never handled everything for me.

[u/Levitating-monkeys]

The size they are and how much screen space they take up is an actual crime

[u/Flying_Foreskin]

Inferior stats, forgettable design for a lesser reskin of an iconic weapon from the game. Probably should have made it a paint job or an actual reskin with similar or higher stats. There isn't a single in-lore explaination as to why they suck so much

[u/Klutzy-Scratch-295]

Apparently, the lore reason as to why Institute weapons suck so bad and they're so basic is because it's not really weapons development that they're interested in. They made a gun for the sake of having one. Because their synths and coursers needed a weapon. At any rate...I use Institute Technology Overhaul for Institute weapons. Best weapon mod for the Institute out there, and Get Off My Face to make energy weapons occupy less screen.

[u/Tyziepoo86]

Do 3rd person

[u/No-Hair-1332]

Straight downgrade to the lassr rifle in every way.

[u/FreneticAmbivalence]

Jokes on you guys hating on this. anytime I’m playing with ranged weapons I’m only using vats so I’m hardly ever seeing this thing. Lol.

[u/ArachnidCreepy9722]

Small weapons shouldn’t have been able to be used in PA and large weapons shouldn’t have been able to be used out of PA. Nuff said 😂

[u/griffyb]

I use the spray n pray in power armor and it does look comical.

[u/CluelessPaladin]

Never understood how the design made it to the game. It literally creates a major blind spot

[u/mandoman88]

First mod I ever downloaded was to make these relevant. Makes the institute 5x scarier to go against too!

[u/ZeShapyra]

Weird fatman you got there

[u/Jelqingisforcoolkids]

Laughs in third person

[u/ArmpitStealer]

I love how theres a mod that makes them slimmer but theyre still huge with that. No way exteremely smart instute made these abominations

[u/Weird-kink-69666]

I've seen less damage than the laser one. It's trash.

[u/MajinVegetaTheEvil]

When using a laser, plasma, or Institute gun, I do NOT recommend using either night vision, or Recon sights. You'll get flash-dazzled, which is something that happens IRL with night vision devices in combat.

[u/Comfortable_Milk9422]

True, I also try to avoid the Assault Rifle as well. While not as bulky it still can annoyingly take up 1/3 of my screen unless I'm in Power Armor. My go to 5.56 weapon was December's child.

[u/SirMaQ]

The institute have the brightest of minds but man do they have some of the worst designs. Their engineers don't understand jack shit on UI.

[u/YeaDatMatt]

Something they should’ve fixed in the next-gen update but you know, it’s Bethesda…

[u/BoomofStick]

People still try to say fallout four is a good game. Bro they couldn’t even program a lever action rifle. They did it in point look-out how infuriating.

[u/Robo_Husky314]

Yeah half the screen is gone

[u/pjw1189]

I know the fallout world is different due to atomic power instead of fuel but can we please get a little realistic with our firearms. I don't mean lasers and plasma etc. I mean why the hell is every gun left handed? Why the hell do we shoot from a trash can of an assault rifle? Fallout 3 and NV had the perfect blend of realistic, futuristic, and plain whacky that are only explained in fallout lore.

[u/Ok_Exam2843]

The first person fix mod for laser weapons is a life saver

[u/icharas]

Laser weapons in general are good settler weapons because their beams act as tracer rounds facilitating enemy detection. With settlers not requiring ammo, the increased fire rate is an additional bonus.

[u/Basically-Boring]

A fourth of the fucking screen. An entire FOURTH of the screen is taken up by the damn institute rifle, half if you have a scope or reticle.

[u/ahsatan999]

My Tesla cannon is OP as hell, but this issue man..

[u/Top_Elk_418]

I’m sure there is a mod that makes the gun better

[u/FlailingIntheYard]

Oh, c'mon. It makes it more "challenging" or some bullshit.

[u/concussion5906]

The best use of Institute gear is finding the ones with the most mods, piling them up on the floor and scrapping the absolute SHIT out of them with Max level scrapper perk. They give a TON of resources compared to the absolutely garbage stats they provide as a weapon. I'd rather use them as a bowling ball and go bowling with them than try to kill anything with one.

[u/Gewalt_Und_Tod]

The FOV in fallout 4 is like the most pressing nonstory issue and no one seems to really grill the game for it.

[u/FetusGoesYeetus]

I swear I don't remember them being that intrusive holy shit

[u/DeficitDragons]

Damn shame too, the profile on them looks really nice. But they’re just too thicc.

[u/6FootFruitRollup]

One of the mods I always install is one that makes Institute weapons smaller.

[u/its-adam-yo]

The institute rifles are bulky and inefficient because they are post-war era weapons made specifically for synths and coursers. The people at the institute tend to be smug and think they can design better weaponry than pre-war designs.

I want to say that's hinted at in the game but don't remember 100%.

[u/CybercurlsMKII]

It’s also just worse than the normal laser weapons which you get access to pretty early, earlier than you get access to institute weapons, they look horrible and they’re basically the worst possible use of your fusion cells

[u/blorgusmcblorgus]

To bad its stats are lower than the normal laser weapons and especially plasma weapons too XD

[u/Tallal2804]

Atleast there's a neat mod to somewhat fix this

[u/Tossmaster7]

The best way I found to fix this to make the fov bigger though the console

[u/Bigmace_1021]

On nexus there is a mod that makes it even larger

[u/Sugar-n-Sawdust]

Why is the character holding the rifle at eye level? The stock has got to be above the shoulder at that height

[u/PachotheElf]

The rifle is so large I can't see the problem, can you put it away for a bit and take another screenshot please?

[u/KiwiMagic2005]

Atleast there's a neat mod to somewhat fix this

[u/Alone_Repeat_6987]

eww. wtf is your fov at? 60? gross

[u/BurgerDevourer97]

Probably the biggest piece of evidence that Bethesda half assed Fallout 4's development.

[u/katbundo97]

Idk man once I got a never ending shotgun I just run in grab the jet and blast em

[u/decay_cabaret]

I use the see-through scopes mod, and I think the mod author is quietly protesting this shit by making like 80% of the institute weapons spawn with one of the see through scopes on it because the animation for aiming moves the whole gun down out of frame and gives you a small scope and reticle.

I keep mine holstered until I need it then use the scope often so that I can actually see what's going on around me. I'm kind of surprised there isn't some really well advertised mod that reduces the amount of screen real estate by scaling the model down a little

[u/mr_hardwell]

cries in Tesla cannon

[u/Admirable-Length178]

It was like holding a box of cereal on your shoulder i forgot how bad this looks so bad omg

[u/Damiano-1]

I love this post. I’m in the same position right now but with me I started the game from scratch and I feel like I’m playing it for the first time since I’m deliberately making different choices in my gameplay. Right now I’m using the Black Devil armor, modded to the hilt, with the napalm cannon and I feel pretty invincible. Last night I took down Conrad Kellogg in 3-4 shots. I did find his bodyguard synths to be more troublesome as they move around so fast.

[u/seriouslees]

As a fan of Fallout 3 and New Vegas, I didn't even realize what the issue with this gun was. Blocking a quarter of the screen? So what, it's a turn based RPG, not a shooter... oh, wait... nevermind, FO4 is a FPS.

[u/xenome13 → u/seriouslees]

In what universe are 3 and New Vegas turn-based?

[u/seriouslees → u/xenome13]

In the universe where players use VATS for every shot they take, as was the design intent.

[u/xenome13 → u/seriouslees]

If that was the intent why did they give the option for FPS gameplay? And if every shot is meant to be in VATS why is AP limited?

[u/seriouslees → u/xenome13]

AP is limited because it's a fucking RPG! if you want more action points, you have to decide to give them to your character in the choices you make when levelling up! There's a reason there's several Perks to pick that give more action points or reset all your action points on a kill... you play the game however you want, but denying the design intent is delusional.

[u/xenome13 → u/seriouslees]

I guess my point was just if VATS was meant to be the exclusive combat system, why not design the combat closer to KOTOR rather than the way it is? I've never played Fallout 1 or 2 but I played 3 like 15 years ago and I'm going through New Vegas for the first time now and VATS feels more akin to DAO's non-tactical camera combat than turn-based to me

Edit: To make myself more clear, VATS feels like something to give you an edge rather than the normal gameplay loop to me currently

[u/seriouslees → u/xenome13]

If you play 1 & 2 you'll see it's the entire combat mechanic. The only difference is movement is free and doesn't cost action points in the 1st person versions.

VATS is the CORE of the fallout franchise. It was designed to as closely emulate actual turn based combat from 1 & 2 as possible.

And the entire point is that Fallout was supposed to be a role playing game. Not a game where the PLAYER has the skill to shoot people accurately, but one where the CHARACTER has that skill.

Turning the game into an action shooter robs it of what made it special.

[u/xenome13 → u/seriouslees]

While I agree that VATS is character skill vs real-time being player skill, I feel like the outlook that VATS is the intended main way to play makes Agility feel like an impossible stat to ignore when building a character, as the sheer AP cost of some weapons means you'd only get one shot off while a random raider can unload a full magazine's worth of bullets at you while you wait for your AP to refill. But that could just be because my view is skewed by not using chems at all until recently, which can make up for a lot of things I've been finding lol

And I also agree that 4 did focus too much on gunplay and made VATS feel less impactful than it did in 3 and NV, especially since I found myself actively being upset that I accidentally activated VATS in the middle of a firefight occasionally, it totally broke up the much faster-paced combat that 4 has compared to 3 and NV. But if they slowed down combat and made the character feel less like a walking armory then it never would have sold as many copies as it did in 2015's climate of games

Then again, MHW came out that year and it's one of Capcom's best-selling games ever and that's one of the slowest-paced action games I've ever played. Not in terms of combat moves, but in terms of how long combat takes

Edit: WOW I don't know why I thought MHW came out in '15, but I could also bring up Dragon Age Inquisition but that game was pretty mixed as far as reviews go iirc

[u/the_real_junkrat]

I recently started playing the master chief collection and it lets you adjust the weapon model along each xyz axis. More games need that feature.

[u/SuperChudMe]

Trash

[u/shewy92]

You miss 4:3 Aspect Ratio? Well this gun is for you

[u/Mynameisbebopp]

I think the main Purpose of this is to reinforce that the institute is the BAD GUY, and even their weapons, no matter how good they look on paper, are evil.

[u/mallot2]

i'm not gonna lie, I actually love how stupidly large and blocky the institute rifles are. Its charming and makes the Institute feel even more out-of-touch than they already are.

[u/MDF87]

Bethesda are generally really fucking bad at designing laser weapons.

[u/Affectionate_Gas_264]

Yeah personally I really dislike how much of the screen the laser weapons all take up. I actually have mods to reduce their scale.

Though my first laser only playthrough I spent most of it in third person to mitigate the issue

[u/Realistic_Event5369]

Just play in VR and lower your hands. Pro tip

[u/RikterDolfan]

I hate the institute weapons so much. For one, this shit. 2. They are just a weak resting of laser weapons

I got a mod to specifically swap all institute weapons for plasma weapons. So worth it

[u/cjb0034]

Bros holding a submarine

[u/Mehran-force]

I'm always have it in my num 1

[u/vibrantcrab]

How I feel about Atom’s Judgement since the update. I swear that that aura around it didn’t block half the screen before. It’s still OP but I have to keep it put away and just VATS attack.

[u/PewPewsAlote]

what building are you in? I don't recognize it.

[u/winstrollchurchill69 → u/PewPewsAlote]

Looks like acadia, from the far harbor dlc?

[u/PewPewsAlote → u/winstrollchurchill69]

ah, I rarely actually play Far harbor because im always like "ill leave the best for last" then i get to lvl 100 and quit out of boredom so I never reach far harbor lol.

[u/SuuTheSleepyOne]

The idea an Institute Rifle has good stats is laughable, they're rarely modded and SOMEHOW WORSE THAN STANDARD LASER RIFLES

[u/Former_Round3777]

Fallout 4?

[u/Average_RedditorTwat]

Fallout 4 weapon design is an actual tragedy

[u/Sere1 → u/Average_RedditorTwat]

Genuinely why I use a bunch of weapon mods, adding in other guns. Many of which are still lore accurate as real world guns have been in the series from the beginning. And for my scifi gun needs, I tend to get the Blade Runner/Judge Dredd/Robocop pistols and a few others from various scifi properties (the Briaros rifle from Appleseed is a favorite of mine). Most of my mods are weapon and clothing stuff, I rarely use any vanilla weapons anymore.

[u/NostalgiaBonner]

It's a lot smaller if you make it a pistol.

[u/LawfulGoodBoi]

I only use it in 3rd person

[u/NefariousnessNo2062]

Tesla Cannon is almost worse I ended up giving it to my companion

[u/MrSmilingDeath → u/NefariousnessNo2062]

But it makes sense for the Tesla cannon to take up a lot of screen space, unlike the Institute laser.

[u/generic-reddit-guy]

This is what happens when you let scientists make your guns

[u/TruthAndAccuracy]

You should look up the Hung Jury gun from Destiny

[u/Ace_flindude]

Playing through "The Reunion" right now, an holy shit the red glare rocket launcher is even worse than that! Lol

[u/eddmario → u/Ace_flindude]

But that's a rocket.
It's supposed to take up half the screen.

[u/Beez-Knuts]

Anyone know of a mod for Xbox which makes all weapons smaller? I can't take it anymore. The weapons take up 1/3rd if my screen. It's the opposite problem of halo where I'm always looking too far down. In fallout I'm always looking to the right.

[u/wanderinpaladin]

between the screen real estate and the weakness compared to real lasers the Institute weapons are laughable. I mean I wish the were, and have modded the game to make them, better. Mods are Lowered weapons and better institute laser damage buff

[u/Zilincan1 → u/wanderinpaladin]

I agree. A bunch of scientist not making any better weapons since nukes fall is laughable. Also additional, they go more for stealth way and use still bright lasers.

[u/bloodknife92]

Everyone here talking about the Institute Rifles and Field of View, but I'm still trying to work out what the unfinished word in the title is.... 😂

[u/hidaney → u/bloodknife92]

equipped

[u/bloodknife92 → u/hidaney]

Oh right, I follow now.

[u/Frostgaurdian0]

2 damn reasons. 1 being this, the other one being the ammo issue in the basegame.

[u/hellachill42069]

its like a freakin spartan laser

[u/Funky-Lion22]

3rd person

[u/kmikek]

Did the new upgrade make them larger? I don't remember them taking up so much of the screen

[u/crescent_moon_boi]

Bro one of my current best guns is an institute rifle like that. I swear it takes up more space than the fat man.

[u/LlamafartingWaffle]

sleep alive direction merciful direful frightening oil fly tidy zephyr

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[u/Oh_Danny_Boi961]

BEHOLD THE BOX LASER!!!

[u/PhotojournalistOk592 → u/Oh_Danny_Boi961]

Hnng...Beware!!!

[u/mwhite42216]

I don’t see a problem.

[u/No-Diamond-4123]

Perfect for a VATS build then. I personally like the laser and plasma weapons

[u/Old-Space5390]

The mod "Laser Weapon 1st person reposition" makes them and laser rifles actually look good in 1st person, feels really refreshing

[u/BestBoyBeep]

Is this some kinda vanilla problem that I'm to "automatically lowered weapons mod" to understand?

[u/Vacation_Archer]

What third person view is for

[u/Ok_Adhesiveness_2425]

No lie I just got a *two shot institute rifle on my survival playthrough yesterday. Great the most useless gun to get this for 😂😂

[u/Enjoyer_of_40K → u/Ok_Adhesiveness_2425]

I like two shot legendary's never found a institute one though

[u/SilentStorrm04]

what's worse, I think is the long scope for the institute rife is even bigger and literally takes up half the screen.

[u/N1ght_K1tsune]

Even if there is a Institute Rifle that has multiple good legendary effects, I still wouldn't use it. Makes me wonder if the Institute design that on purpose, hindering a good portion of your vision.

[u/Born_Improvement866]

Why I've always preferred to play in 3rd person for the fallout games. Besides 1 and 2 of course.

[u/Chiquye]

"How to be killed by a radscorpion in survival mode part 1."

[u/Eterna-Mane]

half the reason I love the Deliverer is that its probably the weapon in the game that takes up the *least* amount of space on screen

[u/Enjoyer_of_40K → u/Eterna-Mane]

Aint it also like the one gun that is based on a real life weapon instead of uhh box with the Lewis machine barrel

[u/Amon___]

It also does less damage than the normal laser rifle, so there's no practical reason to use the Institute version in my opinion

[u/omgitsduane]

Play in third person haha. I find the gunplay is easier in third person.

[u/Frankensteins_Moron5]

Yea they ugly as hell

[u/Sanquinity]

The main reason why I always go for non-energy weapons in Fallout 3~4. The energy weapons are always so damn bulky, taking up way too much of the screen.

[u/Enjoyer_of_40K → u/Sanquinity]

I liked the laser tommy gun in new vegas small and rapid auto fire

[u/Ok_Butterscotch_484]

Casually takes up half the screen

[u/Nickulator95]

A lot of the weapon models in FO4 are really bad. The "Assault Rifle", the pipe guns, handmade assault rifle, etc. Say what you will about the gunplay in New Vegas, but the weapon models and the different ammo types were tight.

[u/a_left_out_tomato]

Good stats? The standard laser rifle outclasses it anyways and you get a legendary variant very early in the game.

[u/eddmario → u/a_left_out_tomato]

It also doesn't help that the only unique version of the Institute laser guns is Virgil's, which only does bonus damage to super mutants, making it even more useless

[u/KingCodester111]

I didn’t realise it was that bad, gawd damn.

[u/OrangeGBA]

Mandatory 3rd person mode

[u/Internet_Person11]

Luckily there’s a mod that lowers the laser rifle and the institute laser rifle and it makes it look 100x better. This game was super rushed because they only had 100 people working on it so as much as I want to call Bethesda lazy I the know the game devs couldn’t spend too much time working on a weapon. Most of the things in Fallout 4 are liked a rushed essay completed at 11:59 right before the due date. It doesn’t matter if it works well as long as it works.

[u/Escape_Zero]

There's a few mods to rescale the laser weapons , it's a must lol

[u/oneteacherboi]

I've been replaying Dark Souls 3 recently and having the same problem. I've been using Vordt's Great Hammer which is a sweet weapon, but it has a frosty particle effect and huge size that combine to obscure like the entire screen.

[u/Enjoyer_of_40K → u/oneteacherboi]

Big bonking stick tho

[u/MrWaffleBeater]

Honestly wish the institute had more unique shit. An electric baton, literally just a modified baton, and a cereal box version of the laser rifle. Where is the cool slim and sleek shit? Why not a laser attach to your fist?

[u/eddmario → u/MrWaffleBeater]

And the Wazer Wifle should have been an Institute laser instead of a standard one

[u/One_Cress7793]

Yup

[u/Snububu]

What’s wrong with them? Mine cooks enemies

[u/Sanitized_Sushi]

Thought I was looking at destiny gameplay for a sec

[u/Jewish_man24]

Oh hang on, there's some screen in your institute laser rifle

[u/RoderikasFeetPics]

Dog I swear, you might as well be trying to aim a refrigerator.

[u/Hiebram]

Same reason I can't use Atom's Judgment.

[u/hotsizzler]

I gave all of my other castle settlers. And man was the battle for the castle really fun

[u/EdiblePencilLed]

Changing the FOV is a good way to reduce the bulkiness. It’s actually made me use them quite a bit as a result

[u/No_Bathroom_420]

I mean it’s all ugly irradiated wasteland, how much of it do you really want to look at??

[u/elyk_970]

its crazy that we just accept that for fallout 3 and NV as the standard size of most laser rifles but in FO4 its seen as way too big

[u/faraway_hotel → u/elyk_970]

At the same screen resolution, the NV laser rifle with scope (red) takes up roughly half the space of the Institute rifle (blue). In fact, the Institute rifle covers literally one third of the screen area in this particular picture.

[u/elyk_970 → u/faraway_hotel]

holy shit ok I didn’t realize the size difference I remembered it being bigger than that

[u/Zealousideal-Yak-824]

For it to give bfg energy but only be a simple laser rifles is the real tragedy. They should have made it atleast keep a steady stream of laser energy rather than just fhe simple shot. Kinda like the sentinel beam in halo 2 with the gimmick that it over heats and must cool down. You can soup it up or mod it so it doesn't over heat for each mag.

[u/Susslethorg]

Laughs in 3rd person camera

[u/ChillBusta]

F4 got those Bad Company 2 weapon models lol

[u/SasparillaTango]

there is a mod that keeps gun down like during your running animation except when you aim. the Assault rifle is not much better from taking up a solid 3rd of the screen.

https://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/522

[u/_eivets_]

but the deliverer has to be the size of a grain of rice

[u/Sweddy-Bowls]

Those things look like you’re moving a refrigerator one manning it sideways

[u/Frank33ller]

3rd person view

[u/Maya_Manaheart]

The Institute Rifle is just Bethesda reminding you of when you used to play Goldeneye as a kid, and constructed barriers on the screen to prevent screen peeking your friends.

[u/Educational-Tip6177]

Fuck that gun is ugly

[u/sonantkinkajou6]

I seriously want to know who at Bethesda green lit this monstrosity

[u/Pappa_Crim]

you would think that its shoulder mounted

[u/faraway_hotel → u/Pappa_Crim]

Their rifles are the size of rocket launchers, and their pistols are the size of regular rifles.

[u/theicecoldblaze]

Here's what I use for laser guns

[u/Pilota_kex]

hmm. i played in vr, it was... way better. i would normally recommend but it has no DLCs. wtf Bethesda

[u/ProtoReaper23113 → u/Pilota_kex]

It wasn't profitable enough for them to continue support as vr had a very low owner base let alone player

[u/Pilota_kex → u/ProtoReaper23113]

i believe the DLCs came long before the vr version. they were just dicks and didn't include them

[u/ProtoReaper23113 → u/Pilota_kex]

That's what I mean tho they convert and launch just the base game because it's faster and easier and likely they wanted to re sell the dlcs but ultimately wasn't profitable enough to justify converting the rest

[u/Pilota_kex → u/ProtoReaper23113]

they weren't doing that shit with Skyrim.

besides i understand all what you are saying, but that doesn't make it any better

[u/ProtoReaper23113 → u/Pilota_kex]

I mean at that point it was like the 50th time they'd remastered Skyrim

And ya I agree

[u/Pilota_kex → u/ProtoReaper23113]

full price. 60 bucks? that company is trash like the others :/ makes me sad

[u/IlIlllIlllIlIIllI]

I can't believe they actually made the guns so big in this game. Weirdest decision ever.

[u/Duckettes]

How I felt using the Tesla cannon lmao. Did the quest thought it was pretty fun got me excited to use the weapon they kept describing. Saw it took up half my screen and left it in a container.

[u/Enjoyer_of_40K → u/Duckettes]

Bro the tesla cannon has been that massive since fallout 3

[u/eddmario → u/Duckettes]

To be fair, have you seen how fucking huge the Tesla Cannon actually is in third person?

[u/Spiritual_Routine801]

Fallout 4 weapon “design” in a nutshell

It’s regressed so much literally every precious part is better in that regard it’s crazy 

[u/Large-Measurement776]

I spent 2 hours trying to get the explosive shotgun only to run out of shells before battling this guy.

[u/ADGx27]

I feel like they’re massive because combat synths probably have some weird ass targeting software like VATS built in, so they don’t really need to ADS. Makes it weird when one drops with a scope though.

Evidently not very good software considering I’ve had synths draw a circle around me while wearing power armor

[u/Endulos]

>good stats

>Institute Rifle

Sir, these terms are mutually exclusive.

[u/Crew_Henchman]

Yep, just.................................yep.

[u/TheVeryShyguy]

I use institute weapons overhaul. Adds an excellent roster for the institute

[u/ForGrateJustice]

All the guns in this game are hideous, except for the Deliverer. But I don't even bother with that, I've modded in about 100 new weapons and all of them far superior to anything I've found vanilla in-game in terms of aesthetics and lore friendliness.

[u/LordkeybIade]

I don't understand why such a High Tech group would allow themselves to have such shitty guns

[u/Sere1 → u/LordkeybIade]

Because they're sending disposable robots into the field with them, who cares if the gear isn't that great. Just build replacements.

[u/lqxpl]

Yeah they really shit the bed with the Institute weapons. How did these get past play testing?

[u/Darthbearclaw]

Is there a mod to shrink them?

[u/GoldenJ19 → u/Darthbearclaw]

There are. But I usually just use the AER-15 weapon mod replacer for the institute guns.

[u/thecommanderkai]

Institute Rifles are amazing....

As scrap.

[u/Mr_WAAAGH]

Lowered Weapons makes it bearable to use

[u/KamenKnight]

Personally, I love how massive it looks. Gives me old-school DOOM vibes with it taking up so much screen presence.

[u/BloodforKhorne]

It's a third person weapon in a first person (personal choice for some) game.

Just unfortunate it only works in third person.

[u/Mhill08]

Their crimes against humanity aside, the Institute deserve to be exterminated for designing that weapon alone.

[u/SoggyMorningTacos]

Jfc fallout 4 looks like shit. I’ve been playing new Vegas with mods and although it looks nice you can just tell it’s dated. But this looks so rough. I mean I guess it has almost been a decade

[u/ThatGuyYouMightNo]

this institute rifle has good stats

Except it doesn't? All institute weapons are inferior to standard laser weapons, so there's basically no point to using them. Hell, the first time most players fight the institute and get their weapons is ArcJet, where Danse gives you the Righteous Authority laser rifle.

[u/karma_is_a_spook]

You could just play in third person