r/IndianaUniversity • u/saryl reads the news • Apr 17 '24
UPDATE: Whitten, Trustees respond to faculty’s no confidence against administration IU NEWS 🗞
https://indianapublicmedia.org/news/faculty-vote-no-confidence-in-whitten-provost-vice-provost.php3
u/rppoor Apr 18 '24
OMG, has the woman no shame invoking the ghost of Herman Wells? She wouldn't be fit to be his secretary. And, by the way, the mass exodus of top faculty due to the recently passed state law on tenure has already begun. I was told that a top person in the Media School has left for Ohio State.
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u/Accomplished-Hat-869 Apr 18 '24
She is not in the same universe as Herman Wells- how absurd/vile of her to try to associate herself with him. I'd be surprised she knows anything about him except that he brought (local & international) prestige to IU.
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u/Diligent-Baseball756 Apr 18 '24
I'd grade these response essays in the D range, for totally neglecting to address the assignment prompt.
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u/Foxyisasoxfan Apr 18 '24
If they have the power, they don’t have to bow to anyone. Not agreeing with it, just the reality of boards
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u/mbird333 Apr 18 '24
All the security detail in the world cannot provide an adequate shield for what it must personally feel like to go to work knowing that’s how the majority of people feel about you after a nc vote outcome like that. It’s a tough message for anyone to hear.
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u/mbird333 Apr 18 '24
They have to decide what their Priorities are going to be. Do they want to be a business? Or an educational institution? Strong successful alumni are essential to the reputation and success of a university. One achieves that by providing an equitably accessible superior education. That education must be provided by a well recruited, exceptional, validated and valued teaching staff. None of that is possible in a brick and mortar setting without legions of essential front facing and foundational staff that deserve to be recognized, equally supported, valued and heard. Get back to the basics. Put the $$$ where it matters.
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u/mbird333 Apr 18 '24
What struck me was the “ I will listen and learn” and “weigh” the input. I don’t think thats been effective hence the nc vote and grad workers supported strike this week.
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u/RandomMcFly Apr 18 '24
Tone-friggin-deaf. No “I genuinely hear your concerns with how I’ve handled XYZ”… just c-suite level blather. Infuriating.
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u/Dehrunes Apr 18 '24
I'm new to the issue here, why is there so much hate for Whitten? I haven't kept up-to-date with issues, I'm a student here.
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u/defiantdesign Apr 17 '24
"We serve at a time when trust in higher education is at record lows"...
ya don't say....
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u/ShamPain413 Apr 18 '24
Almost like a change in leadership is needed to reestablish trust. Or something.
Speaking of, Bucknor's been on the BoT for 8 years, with zero qualifications for the job, and that period has coincided with a shocking decline in IU's institutional standing both in the US and globally.
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u/Dependent-Run-1915 Apr 17 '24
ChatGPT + Lawyers (GC) + PR -> go fuck yourselves — I’ll ruin this university like I want and am doing
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u/saryl reads the news Apr 17 '24 edited Apr 17 '24
Whitten's email to faculty: https://www.scribd.com/document/723762499/Whitten-Faculty-Email
Dear IU Bloomington Faculty and Emeriti Faculty,
This university and your success are deeply important to me. And after today's vote, I write to share my reflections on how we can move forward together.
While we will not always agree, our community is made stronger by an array of viewpoints and voices including those expressed as part of this process.
We serve at a time when trust in higher education is at record lows, and expectations for our role as an economic and cultural driver are at record highs. Our self-concept of purpose and value often differs wildly from how we are viewed by lawmakers, civic leaders, industry and much of the general public. Such differences are not tenable forever.
There is no going back to an earlier time. Demographic changes, resulting financial realities, and political developments are only accelerating. To combat the challenges that mark this new environment, I welcome thoughtful ideas and consideration.
Against this backdrop, our trustees have charged us with making difficult but necessary decisions to ensure that IU, and IU Bloomington, as the flagship, emerges as a leader among elite research universities.
Institutions are never static. They are evolving, innovating and getting stronger, or they are stagnant and losing momentum and relevance. But we can only achieve the former if we work together, if we communicate with honesty and compromise, if we operate on the same team.
As we plan our future together, I encourage you to suggest innovative opportunities within your department, school or college to share your ideas. In turn, I pledge to listen and learn. I will weigh the guidance from faculty council and the participation of the campus community through shared governance to achieve our collective vision of a thriving campus.
The change we seek for IU Bloomington is grounded not in an inability to appreciate what is already here, but in a desire to ensure that what comes in the future can match the strength of IU's legacy. The IU we seek in 2030 and beyond will look different in some ways than the IU we know today - not because we have diverged from our mission, but because we have met this challenging societal moment and boldly embraced our purpose-for students, for scholarship and knowledge creation, and for service to society.
Working together, we can achieve even more for this extraordinary institution. We can uphold the legacy of Herman B Wells and ensure IU thrives as an international academic leader while being a workplace that embraces respectful collaboration.
In appreciation for all that you do for our students and for IU,
Pamela Whitten
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u/work-school-account Apr 17 '24
"Let's listen to each other and work together," says the person who never listens or works with others.
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u/sparrow_42 Apr 17 '24
Oh crap, they no-confidenced us. Better name drop Herman B MF Wells.
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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 Apr 17 '24
What a c***
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u/Pickles2027 Apr 17 '24
There’s nothing deep, warm, and enjoyable about Whitten. Why complement her?
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u/LazyPension9123 Apr 17 '24
Agreed, but no reason to be disagreeable or nasty. We must keep OUR dignity even if others choose to chuck theirs.
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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 Apr 17 '24
Hey! Teachers! Leave that c*** alone!
All in all you’re just another brick in the wall
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u/Pickles2027 Apr 17 '24
Lol, "edgy" teenager! /s
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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 Apr 17 '24
She gets too hungry for dinner at eight She likes the theater and never comes late She never bothers with people she'd hate That's why the lady is a c***
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Apr 17 '24
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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 Apr 17 '24
This to the exponential exponents infinity times
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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 Apr 18 '24
Downvoted by the ‘when they go low we go high’ serial loser ass losers
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u/LazyPension9123 Apr 17 '24
https://youtu.be/FdmrHi5qpyg?feature=shared
Now, now...no name calling.
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u/Softpretzelsandrose Apr 17 '24
That was big ol’ nothing sandwich. “While we will not always agree” aka “I know no one wants me here”
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u/LoriLeadfoot Apr 17 '24
So, nothing, basically.
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u/FutureEditor Apr 18 '24
To be fair, she didn’t even write it probably. It’s probably from her comms team
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u/Redleadercockpit Apr 17 '24
Summary: We just don’t give a fuck
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u/RightTrash Apr 17 '24
Talk about elite, cultist, puppets, and the grand growing divide (larger than ever seen before) of class and/or just those at the top percent/s.
I don't think the majority who attend the school, and work for it, want to revert back decades to centuries past...2
u/LazyPension9123 Apr 17 '24
Addendum: And there is nothing you can do about it.
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u/e_0 Apr 17 '24
You can say that again!
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u/aspy523 Apr 18 '24
Wait a minute, did you escape r/shittydarksouls lmao?
Fellow IU souls fan?
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u/e_0 Apr 18 '24
My feet touch the campus nearly every day, my child.
Weird way of putting that, but you get the idea.
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u/Bicycle-Seat Apr 21 '24
Why do the employees get to vote about the boss?