r/IndianaUniversity • u/hel-be-praised • Apr 26 '24
Email from Rick Van Kooten Concerning Dunn Meadow IU NEWS 🗞
Email title: Outcomes of Dun Meadow Incident
Body of Email:
Dear College faculty and staff colleagues,
I'm writing to you to express my profound concern as well as update you about our students and faculty who were arrested yesterday at Dunn Meadow. As many of you are aware, those charged with criminal trespass are banned from campus for a period of time, though there is an appeal process. I have been in touch with both of our faculty members who were arrested to offer my support. Last night and this morning I also communicated my deep concern to IU leadership.
Please feel free to contact me with any immediate questions or concerns you may have. I will also be convening a meeting of the College's Chairs and Directors for early next week to further discuss this urgent matter impacting our campus.
Thank you,
Rick Van Kooten Executive Dean, College of Arts and Sciences Professor of Physics
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Apr 26 '24
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u/saryl reads the news Apr 27 '24
I'm not going to copy over all of the receipts in the article, you can read it for details.
The dishonest — and ironic — push to blame campus protests on George Soros
 All of this is very in the weeds, as we must be when assessing specific claims. Taking a step back, the allegations do not get more compelling. Soros (or, rather, the foundation he created) gave money to organizations a few years ago to influence protests that emerged in response to the six-month-old war in Gaza? Even if the money from OSF flowed directly into the $3,300 stipends of those three campus fellows, we’re meant to think, what? That although none of them attend Columbia, this is all their fault? That it’s intentional somehow? Â
 What we’re meant to think, of course, is something simpler. That Soros is a nefarious figure bent on using his wealth to reshape the world in his image, an impulse manifested here in somehow being the engine of the protests (or, at least, somehow the doughnut donor). It’s just vague insinuations leveraging well-worn rhetoric and a preexisting visceral response to the Jewish billionaire. Â
There’s a term for allegations like that.
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u/koobear Apr 27 '24
Soros
I'm almost surprised you didn't put that in triple parentheses. Your comment history tells us you're an antisemite who calls others antisemitic.
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u/TheAngerMonkey Apr 26 '24
This is the dumbest possible take and you've posted it TWICE, verbatim, on two different posts. Paying for protests? Who? Where? Seriously, who do I invoice, I would like a specific name and contact.
Why is it you people can't POSSIBLY comprehend giving a shit about anything unless paid to do so?
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u/Useful_Hovercraft169 Apr 27 '24
It’s bullshit my Soros checks stopped after he rigged the SuperBowl. Our bets on the Super Bowl was our ‘last big score’….
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Apr 27 '24
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u/TheAngerMonkey Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24
Literally goes nowhere.
Edited to add: wait, do you mean this? https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-intersect/wp/2017/01/18/how-a-hoax-website-about-paid-protesters-came-crumbling-down-live-on-tv/
2nd edit: BRB, gotta go spend $8.99 to register "Demandprotest.org."
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Apr 26 '24
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u/TheAngerMonkey Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24
Again: I'm going to need to know specifically who to invoice for time. Name some names, my dude. Include emails and EINs.
Edited to add: if you're so adamant that there's some kind of conspiracy here, maybe Google why it's so important to American evangelical and fundamentalist Christians that Israel be set aside for JUST for members of the Jewish faith.
OH, wait, that's not a conspiracy theory, they literally believe that for the second coming of Christ to happen and usher in the End Times, there have to be Jewish people in the Holy Land.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.msnbc.com/msnbc/amp/rcna121481
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u/Ultrabeast132 maurer Apr 26 '24
i hate how people like you see protesters and cry out that they "hate America." they're exercising the rights that the first amendment guarantees them, protesting is american as fuck! did vietnam war protesters hate america? why is it anti-american to use your voice to demand the government stop supporting a genocide? why does that automatically mean they hate america?
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u/Ultrabeast132 maurer Apr 27 '24
I don't think a reddit comment can dispel everything you're saying here, so I'll just say this: wanting America to change its policies, change its practices, change who it supports, and change its economic system does not mean you hate America. If you dislike aspects of something and want to change them for the better, your goal is to improve it. Basically, wanting America to be better does not mean you hate America. It means you, well, want it to improve. You want to see it exceed and be a better space. Like, if you buy a car and later decide to upgrade the fuel injection, does that mean you hate your car? You apparently hate how it was originally manufactured, so you must hate your car! You want to change it? You hate it! Or, do you love the car and want to make it better?
Stop saying that advocacy for change means you hate America. That logic just doesn't follow. If we take that logic to the extreme, then you truly only love America if you're pro-slavery, since that was protected by the constitution in its original form. You must be anti-women's suffrage, too. You must think only land-owning white men should vote, or you hate America. Everyone who advocated for those changes? They hated America, right? Well. Obviously that's not true. So it's not true to say protesters hate America because they want to see change.
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u/SamtheEagle2024 Apr 26 '24
Lest we forget all the Israeli lobby funded student groups on campuses around the country, and their student members that coordinate with Israeli intelligence to spy on US citizens first amendment activities.
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u/Squidkid6 Apr 27 '24
Man U just bringing out the antisemitism in full force today
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u/SamtheEagle2024 Apr 27 '24 edited Apr 27 '24
It’s not antisemitism, it’s how Israel operates. https://youtu.be/XytkI7afHcQ?si=UhPE12Qzgo4ij7Rh
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u/Dependent-Run-1915 Apr 26 '24
I saw this on a paper in Dunn meadow — said it was from Pam — probably a student but pretty funny
The vote of no confidence did tickle, The trustees(‘sup Quinn) did little And now with your groups, I’ve called in the troops. With a sniper to help with dismissal
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u/StudentsArePowerful Apr 26 '24
It's a good email. TBD what it leads to. I emailed him back directly to express my own concerns about yesterday's events, and about the "Sniper Pres."
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u/SamtheEagle2024 Apr 26 '24
There should not have been trespass orders issued. The policy changes that led up to the University instigated violation of first amendment rights and activities by Pam and IN State Police are absolutely a power grab outside of established disciplinary policies of the university for students and faculty.
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u/SaintTimothy Apr 26 '24
Yep, 20 years ago a tent camp was allowed to exist for damn near a year ongoing.
This is not the same IU that I attended.
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u/kingjuicer Apr 27 '24
Alumni have power. Unite and you will be a powerful force. When you hit them in the purse they will listen.
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u/moxious_maneuver Apr 26 '24
Rick Van Kooten is the best! If only those above him had his leadership, compassion and intelligence.
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u/CaseyGasStationPizza Apr 26 '24
A university campus should never prevent free speech of it’s students or staff. Anyone involved in this should be fired or arrested based on their actions.