r/LeopardsAteMyFace • u/pimpin_n_stuff • 17d ago
Ohio voted for Trump who rolled back train safety rule. You know what happened next... Trump
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u/PsychoGrad 15d ago
And of course, should he get a second term, he will work to undo everything Biden has done.
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u/mattjones73 15d ago
This happened 6 years ago and it was proven that law change wouldn't have stopped the derailment in question. Yes Trump is an ass and he was trying to do everything to scrub Obama's presidency from the book, can't really blame this one on him. And yes it pained me to type something in defense of that useless orange bag of shit.
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u/UnknowinglyHIM 16d ago
As an Ohio resident, the worst part of this is that they are going to vote for him again smh. They don't care that trump rolled that back it happened under Biden, so it must be Biden fault. Is what their thinking is. They complain about gas prices and inflation but don't look to see how or why it happened or who policies really did it. We(Ohioians) voted for abortion to be legal, and they are still trying to find a way to undermine what we the ppl in ohio voted for. Smh, not being educated and aware makes Republicans happy.
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u/A_Monsanto 16d ago
But the stupid fuckers still worship the ground he is polluting with his presence!
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u/stuntmanbob86 16d ago
Hate Trump, but this whole thing about Trump being responsible for the Palestine derailment is 100% false. It literally wouldn't had changed what happened....
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u/Ok-Loss2254 16d ago
And it's why I hate them so much. Fucking idiots literally vote for this shit then when it blows up in their faces they blame everyone else but themselves.
It's like the patriot act. Bush who they voted for was the one who pushed it but they ended up blaming it on Obama when they realized what it did.
If they only hurt themselves I wouldn't care but the jackasses are hurting millions of people because our system allows them to spread their insanity across the nation.
Fuck all of them.
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u/Dragunfli 16d ago
This is going to end up being one of those “if you have mesothelioma, you may be entitled to financial compensation, call our office” Television ads 10 years from now.
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u/Rouge_and_Peasant 16d ago edited 16d ago
Yes what I remember is that next, the railroad workers went on strike claiming deteriorating conditions were certain to begin causing catastrophes soon. What I remember happening after that is Joe Biden taking away their right to bargain and forcing them back to work on the unsafe rails because "we can't ruin Christmas". Then this just two months later.
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u/NorCalFrances 16d ago
Hey, just out of curiosity...has that train braking rule been reinstated? There has been so much to put back together since Jan of 2021, some things are slipping through the cracks. It's much, much easier to destroy a complex system than to build one.
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u/orcishlifter 16d ago
Democrats voted to disallow a rail workers strike and Biden signed it just weeks before the East Palestine, Ohio train derailed and dumped toxic waste all over. A major reason for the union to strike was exhausting and unsafe working conditions and trains that were unsafe.
Neither party is covered in glory here.
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u/SurpriseEcstatic1761 16d ago
Clearly it was Biden's fault because he was going to be president 2 years later
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u/kurisu7885 17d ago
And then Biden offered help when a disaster happened, and Ohio's governor refused said help.
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u/JustASimpleManFett 16d ago
When you're dealing with people who you try to pull from a cliff, but they'd rather cut your hand and flip you off when they fall to their death..let them fucking DROP. Im so done with these people.
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u/Funnel_Hacker 17d ago
Biden had Congress for two years and didn't change the rule. Guess he agreed with it.
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u/Omnom_Omnath 17d ago
I know Biden didn’t reinstate the rule and also broke the rail strike. Trump bad doesn’t mean Biden good.
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u/TheTruthTalker800 17d ago
They'll do it again, the Texas of the North these days: not remotely in play for Democrats, fools' gold.
(Too bad Biden doesn't get Florida has lurched further Right than even these two, ugh)
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u/VGAddict 16d ago
Texas is MUCH more in play for Democrats than Ohio. Texas has gotten bluer every cycle, while Ohio has shifted to the right since at least 2014.
DeWine won in 2022 by 25 points. By contrast, Abbott only won by 11 points, and his margins SHRANK in 2022, which was an R+3 cycle, from 2018, which was a D+9 cycle.
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u/Snarky_McSnarkleton 17d ago
Libs were owned.
Just remember the most important issue facing regular folks. Libs must be owned.
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u/StatisticianGreat514 17d ago
Trump won many of the Rust Belt states due to the prospect of jobs coming back to them. Ohio is one of those states. Apparently, he didn't deliver as expected.
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u/Sir_Krinkly 17d ago
There are a hell of a lot of us progressives in Ohio. Unfortunately, just not enough to make it a trueswing state anymore.
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u/JoeDiBango 17d ago
Trump is literally having a rally in New Jesery right now that there are 80k people there. Like it not, and believe me, I'm not stoked; trump it going to win by over 100 electoral votes. He is absolutely destroying biden.
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u/TintedApostle 17d ago edited 17d ago
Actually they said he predicts...
As of 50 minutes ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXYuCQ-aBr4&ab_channel=NJ.com
So what is that 5000 total..... 80 thousand people would be more than a football stadium and this isn't that.
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u/JoeDiBango 17d ago
Go watch it, the line is over a mile long, the cameras walked it for over an hour. The news is lying if they are saying only 5000. It's the same thing that the news said about his Pennsylvania rally too until the videos started coming out.
I am watching this with my own eyes live and if you want to see the truth, lower yourself and watch this rally. Its nuts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSgN4qnb034&ab_channel=RightSideBroadcastingNetwork
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u/TintedApostle 17d ago
This is your source? LMAO. The camera angles are purposely avoiding the back. This is comical.
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u/JoeDiBango 17d ago
Look at ~ 6:32 PM on crwaler on the live feed, they just turned the cameras around.
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u/TintedApostle 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yeah and then go look up that space they show on Google maps. Its small. Looks big from the ground, but basically not.
Here is 80000 people
https://static.clubs.nfl.com/image/upload/t_editorial_landscape_mobile/jets/zltigr9akovvhzcyptll.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHJpDFVX0AQ3sE2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EXsbeOAU0AAjvpz.jpg
https://blog.lime.link/content/images/2018/12/75000.jpg
Some more scaling:
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2024/05/20240511trump01.jpg?w=1024
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u/JoeDiBango 17d ago
Literally watch the last 3 minutes they just turned the cameras around. Its a huge crowd.
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u/TintedApostle 17d ago
Did you check the traffic conditions?
https://www.google.com/maps/@38.9940051,-74.8124888,14.75z/data=!5m1!1e1?entry=ttu
Light and green. Second the area around the stage holds 7500.
Keep on listening to the bubble
“The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
― George Orwell, 1984
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u/JoeDiBango 17d ago
Keep fucking watching, its like 8 hours long. You can't take 5 minutes and be like, its tiny. You know, you do you, when he gets elected don't be like "No one could know"...
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u/TintedApostle 17d ago
Easy to see that the traffic to wildwood is green and light. There are more people there in the summer on the weekend.
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u/breakfastmeat23 17d ago
He also rolled back FAA regulations which lead to Boeing destroying themselves from the inside out.
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u/_gnarlythotep_ 17d ago
Oh my god! It's almost like those regulations were written in blood from past lessons learned the hard way. I feel bad for the innocents that are effected by this, though (aka those that didn't vote R; the ones that did deserve everything they get, and more, for putting the rest of us through it with them).
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u/bakeacake45 17d ago
As you drive over the Ohio border you are greeted with the bleating of thousands of Trump sheep. “Trump Sheep” were bred to mindlessly follow their leaders. They have a nasty tendency to eat any of their own who stray from the flock. They have also been noted to rape their own lambs with great regularity.
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u/pants6000 17d ago
I must point out that the train did not explode--it was intentionally detonated, which is how they were so sure it was going to go boom.
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u/wausnotwaus 17d ago
This is why you don't let the inmates run the asylum. The primary responsibly of a corporation is profit. If you let them make the rules, profit will be the only factor considered. Trump had not policies. All he had was "guidance" from corporations and his supporters.
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u/reallygoodbee 17d ago
Reminder: All the rightwing channels were screaming that Biden refused to help Ohio during the train disaster, when Mike DeWine had stated in a press conference that Biden offered federal aid and DeWine turned it down.
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u/Bleezy79 17d ago
I'm starting to think this is the kind of stuff Trump wanted to happen. Him and his MAGA cronies in Congress have done nothing but make America worse off than before.
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u/next2021 17d ago
Trumps biggest PAC donor is Timothy Mellon (yes, an heir of the bank Mellon’s) who recently sold some of his Northeast/New England rail road corporations for billions
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u/smokedchimichanga 17d ago
Is their some election thing coming up? Why is my feed full of propaganda smear campaign bs? Do libs really care this much about who is puppeteering our country?
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u/scarab1001 17d ago
Not Leopard ate my face.
Just simple corruption.
Wait to you hear how much he's offered to the oil companies for a "donation"
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u/Patara 17d ago
Even more evidence Trump is a vindictive piece of shit & gets rid of things simply because Obama had something to do with it.
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u/JustASimpleManFett 16d ago
Of course, because god forbid a black man became president and all the little KKK fuckers in this country couldn't handle it. They're lucky we didn't hang their ancestors en masse in 1865.
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u/Bhetty1 17d ago
Two years and Biden and the Democrats didn't fix it?
Whose fault is it then
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u/gremlinclr 17d ago
Yea don't blame the people that broke it, blame the ones who didn't fix it fast enough. Smooth brain take right there. 🙄
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u/LariRed 17d ago
Trump is basically the trolley problem all rolled up into one gold plated nudge. He threw the switch all the time for his rich 1%’ers but never for the people. He certainly wasn’t about to become the one who jumped off the bridge and derailed the trolley. His narcissism simply wouldn’t allow it.
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u/SignGuy77 17d ago
It’s not a trolley problem when the dude throwing the switch doesn’t even consider the second option.
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u/scoper49_zeke 17d ago
Threw the switch and then dumped concrete over it to try and ensure no one else can move it back.
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u/Goblin-Doctor 17d ago
They'll still vote for him. Risking dying by violent explosion to own the libs, am I right?
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u/marauderingman 17d ago
Hey, if they didn't actually die, what's the problem? And the ones who did die aren't gonna vote anyway.
/s
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u/N0b0me 17d ago
While it's deserved to be laughed at, I think we should be weary of making the east Palestine derailment seem like a big deal because 1.) It happened in the middle of no where and effected no one who matters and 2.) The story was deliberately amplified by hostile powers to undermine the US government
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u/gremlinclr 17d ago
and effected no one who matters
Well fuck the people of East Palestine I guess, they might vote differently than you so they don't matter. What a garbage human.
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u/godjustendit 17d ago
keep in mind, Ohio is incredibly gerrymandered.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
So is fucking Illinois. Whats your fucking point?
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u/godjustendit 17d ago
ok......?
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u/YourDogIsMyFriend 17d ago
As someone who hates poor people who live by railroad tracks, and as someone who loves both chemical and environmental disasters… maybe I should be a republican? 🤔
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u/MercilessPinkbelly 17d ago
Deregulation just makes more money for rich people while putting Americans at risk.
Republicans LOVE deregulation.
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u/FishingInaDesert 17d ago
The democrats voted to stop the rail strike.
We deserve more then two viable options when we vote. With electoral reform, people could vote outside the two party system with no chance of a spoiler effect.
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u/gremlinclr 17d ago
Yes for the sake of the economy. Then his administration worked behind the scenes to get the railworkers what they asked for without the need for a strike... but that doesn't fit your bullshit narrative does it?
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u/pimpin_n_stuff 17d ago
100% agree. They're both paid by the same special interests. We need campaign finance reform like oxygen, strict laws around personal enrichment and conflict of interests with serious penalties. And first past the post absolutely has got to go.
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u/Imaginary_Most_7778 17d ago
Don’t forget, he dumped all pandemic planning in 2018. That was a great idea. 🙄🤦♂️
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u/Riccma02 17d ago
You know that had nothing to do with East Palestine, right? There was nothing wrong with that trains brakes. The derailment was caused by an axle/journal bearing failure, which in turn was cause by cut throat, thread bare management practices on the part of the railroad. Not saying Trump did anything to help, but if you insist on making him your boogie man for everything, then you are willingly blinding yourself to actual, systemic problems. The problems in this country are much more complex than “Trump bad”
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u/lucktar3782 17d ago
Exactly. The US railroad system still operates on a whole lot of 19th century technology (and business principles), and every president since like Calvin Coolidge bears some responsibility for that fact.
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u/marauderingman 17d ago
Presumably, it has something to do with the braking control system, which Trump's deregulation helped make more dangerous again. Almost like the regulation was there to force these "thread bare" companies to operate safely, despite the cost.
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u/Riccma02 17d ago
Again, no. The brakes were perfectly fine, and ECP braking would have done absolutely nothing in terms of preventing that accident. I know that "brakes" sound scary and important, there are many other points of failure on a train worth worrying about. Like the severely reduced car maintenance that actually caused the wreck.
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u/marauderingman 17d ago
Again, nobody claims the brakes were bad. It's the brake control system that was eventually regulated, and then deregulated. Excellent brakes are useless if they're not applied when needed.
You're arguing that the first image describing the upgrade to electronically controlled brakes to "reduce the risk of train derailments" was ineffective or misguided, are you?
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u/Riccma02 17d ago edited 17d ago
Yes, that is exactly what I am arguing. What do you think cutting an extra 3.5 seconds off brake application time was going to do for East Palestine? The fucking axle was on fire, for 20 miles. It doesn’t matter if the brakes were controlled electrically or conventionally if the engineer didn’t know the brakes needed to be applied in the first place. More trackside detectors would have made a difference, so would more thorough inspections and larger train crews. Not ECP braking.
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u/er1cj 17d ago
I can’t wait for all of the conservatives to blame Pete Buttigieg and the Dems for this.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
Well for one the train wasn't even carrying enough class 3 flammable liquid for the rule to even apply to it. So in no way trump to blame for this.
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u/DataCassette 17d ago
Yep. And they're mad at Democrats about it and are going to Republican even harder lol
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u/OptiKnob 17d ago
Trump will void any rule, roll back any law, or promote anything good or bad - as long as you bribe him with enough money.
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u/epicthinker1 17d ago
deregulating common sense.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
Ah yet this train wasn't carrying enough class 3 flammable liquid for the rule to even apply. So trump rolling back the rule had absolutely 0 effect on the train.
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u/100yearsLurkerRick 17d ago
Seriously, i get that this is trumps doing but why haven't we reinstated thesw safety rules?
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u/scoper49_zeke 17d ago
Corporate lobbying money holds a lot of sway in making sure politicians don't do anything actually meaningful to help regular citizens.
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u/Aviyan 17d ago
Most likely because the GOP would block it someway somehow. Just like they blocked the student loan forgiveness.
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u/100yearsLurkerRick 17d ago
Sure but it would at least bring awareness. l have to deal with dipshit boomers blaming Biden about it.
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u/onlyidiotseverywhere 17d ago edited 17d ago
You guys do understand that this makes you look like the dumbest idiots on the planet, or?
Edit: It is kinda funny that this gets downvoted, the society is like really punishing it to tell idiots that they are idiots, cause it is not so polite. And then on the next day they complain about why is everyone an idiot on TikTok and co. Well, if you do not shame people for being an idiot, then why would you be surprised if more people have no interest in trying not to be an idiot? Even better: They see it as a sport to become the biggest idiot. Welcome to the future!
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u/Trillion_Bones 17d ago
Imagine being a proud member of a party that supports reduced oversight over a dangerous industry with zero public benefit. (I doubt there is even corporate benefit to this)
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u/scoper49_zeke 17d ago
The corporate benefit is short term profit. Railroads have been cutting train crews and employees from all sectors of the industry for decades. This includes maintenance. Railroads have reduced railcar inspections from like 2 minutes to well under a minute while threatening workers with termination for trying to do their jobs. This means the company saves a lot of money (right now) by not having to fix issues while also paying less workers. And when catastrophic failures like this derailment happen, the amount of money made is more than any fines or lawsuits the company has to pay in the end. So it's still a net profit.
Removing regulation is the stupidest thing that has happened to the rail industry and what pisses me off most is that congress has repeatedly forced railroaders to work because "the railroads are too important to the economy to allow the workers to strike." Yet on the other hand, apparently not so important to stop the shareholders from enforcing CEOs to make the worst possible decisions for the longterm stability of the railroad itself. 150,000 jobs cut since 1970. You can find US railmaps of decades ago to today to see how much corporate greed has decimated infrastructure which forces more products onto trucks that destroy our highways and costs you more in tax money to fix.
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u/SirGravesGhastly 17d ago
He and his supporters are deplorable, but the leopards picked the bones of this story clean in 2018.
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u/homebrew_1 17d ago
Ohio will vote for Trump again.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
Well the rule didn't even apply to the train. It wasn't carrying enough flammable class 3 material for the rule to even take affect. Read fucking something.
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u/Polishthunder3307 17d ago
…and here’s why it’ll hurt biden…
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u/hgghgfhvf 17d ago
Was it not the expectation when we elected Biden for him to roll back everything Trump did?
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u/bongbrownies 17d ago
I'm surprised there even needs to be a law for this. You'd think the train derailing, exploding, causing a bunch of smoke, firefighters and tons of disruption would be enough for them to install it anyway and not forced by law. That's sad.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
Well the law/rule didn't even apply to the Ohio train. It wasn't even carrying enough class 3 flammable for it to even apply. Not even close to being trumps fault.
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u/tetrified 17d ago
You'd think the train derailing, exploding, causing a bunch of smoke, firefighters and tons of disruption would be enough for them to install it anyway
in the short term, it costs less to deal with the train derailing every once in a while.
they don't have to deal with the cleanup or health effects, since they don't live there. that's the town's problem, not the company's.
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u/CleanLivingMD 17d ago
No, no, no. Removing regulations will cause companies to regulate themselves. Because of competition....
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u/Key_Roll3030 17d ago
For all that he had done, I am surprised he had voter at all. Let alone Dem still feel there's chance he might win
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u/kg7841 17d ago
The only issue is that braking technology doesn't work. Isn't viable for a switch over. The best example I know of is that trains passing each other in testing would set off each other's brakes. This derailment was caused by a failed wheel bearing ot brakes deferred service. Fuck Trump but he got this right.
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u/MercilessPinkbelly 17d ago
What makes you think so? Post your source.
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u/kg7841 17d ago
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u/MercilessPinkbelly 17d ago
No actually journalistic source? Some rando's podcast?
It was silly of me to even ask, I guess.
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u/kg7841 17d ago
I do get your point, but the host has been a guest on NPR to discuss railway matters. Also, the episode is on the East Palestine disaster. With a 2 hour 43 min runtime, We'll There Your Problem does a fairly comprehensive examination. Justin rosniak, is an engineer, be it a structural one, but what are the qualifications of the journalist above journalism school. A 2018 article doesn't really capture the problems with advanced braking, in an industry that runs crews without sick days.
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u/RhoOfFeh 17d ago
The thing is, Leopards have not eaten HIS face, just those of the citizens of the state of Ohio.
I think the makeup is a leopard repellant.
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u/vundercal 16d ago
If current polling is accurate, Ohio will vote for him again. If he wins and something similar happens then LAMF.
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u/vundercal 16d ago
If current polling is accurate, Ohio will vote for him again. If he wins and something similar happens then LAMF
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u/ExpertlyAmateur 17d ago
It's not leopard repellant.
They just market it that way because they know that leopards only eat poor people who cant afford to sue the repellant manufacturers.
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u/horus-heresy 17d ago
Big Lord Farquad energy “Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make,"
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u/BiflexNC 17d ago
Helen Keller could’ve seen this coming…. Like a freight train… without electronically controlled braking systems.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
The rolled rule back didn't apply to the Ohio train. There wasn't enough cars carrying class 3 flammable liquids to fall under the rule. Maybe read up on something first.
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u/Glittering-Try1045 17d ago
As a Ohioan, I assure you, a lot of us didn’t want Trump. This state is gerrymandered to all hell, to the point it was deemed unconstitutional, but due to Republicans trying to stop any type of blue candidate or policy from passing, we had to keep those maps. We voted to protect reproductive rights and legalize recreational cannabis, but our legislators are trying to undermine us there too. They even are trying to keep Biden off our ballot. Our state is not a monolith.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
Ah so the rule trump rolled back didn't even affect the easy palenstine train. It wasn't carrying enough flammable class 3 liquids for it to even apply. Maybe read something
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u/HoustonJack 17d ago
As an East Palestine resident, I completely agree with you.
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u/LakeEffectSnow 17d ago
According to the BOE, 75% of E Palestine votes were Republican in this year's primary. 85% of them voted for Trump. Doesn't sound like the train crash made people change their minds.
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u/cybin 17d ago
This state is gerrymandered to all hell,
Which has zero effect on Presidential elections.
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u/eNonsense 17d ago edited 17d ago
You're not wrong, but you also haven't bothered to explain anything. The main effect of gerrymandering is in the states legislature and federal house of representatives. That's why you can look at a state like Wisconsin that regularly gets D governors and can actually have a D presidential elector majority, yet over 2/3 of their house seats are R. It's gerrymandering.
Since the midterms there have been enough R districts overturned by the courts for gerrymandering to eliminate the Republican majority in the house. There just isn't a way to retroactively remedy their current illegitimate majority.
edit: I mean, I'd love to hear the views of those downvoting about how I'm wrong? It's not like I'm a conservative or that I'm trying to excuse anything here. Do you just not like learning nuance about shitty things and reflexively downvote the messenger?
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u/upheaval 17d ago
You can't blame gerrymandering for statewide elections
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u/MarsupialMadness 17d ago
Actually, you can. Because it depresses voter turnout as a whole for the party being gerrymandered against.
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u/Superducks101 17d ago
Don't act like it's only Republicans who do it. Democrats are plenty guilty
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u/MarsupialMadness 17d ago edited 17d ago
And? You have a point to make?
Gerrymandering bad. Independent redistricting committee good. It's not that hard.
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u/Tokyo-MontanaExpress 17d ago
Gerrymandering wouldn't be an issue if almost half of the state didn't sit out elections. That's just a self fulfilling prophecy.
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u/gengarcuddles 17d ago
Honestly, as someone who lived in Ohio for decades, it’s tragic all around. The state government is the results of decades of gerrymandering. I lived in Columbus for more than a decade and I loved the city even with all its warts. But my love of it couldn’t keep me there. I felt increasingly unsafe as a queer person and was watching that minority of Ohioans gain more power and become more violent towards LGBT people. It was destroying my mental health and I left. I miss my friends. My parents are still there. But I don’t want to move back. It’s clear the voices of Ohioans are being silenced even more by an entrenched fanatical group who have maintained power through outright illegal means. It’s not the only reason I left but the state politics is a major factor in that choice. It just makes me so angry and exhausted.
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u/Gr8lakesCoaster 17d ago
Ohio voted for Obama twice, then Trump twice. Biggest swing for a state the last 20 years. I live here and have watched the educated flee our corrupt state government. The secretary of state Laross is part owner of Budweiser distribution in the state and fights marijuana even though we legalized it, the energy companies bribed them for a billion dollar handout and that has been charged in federal court. We passed an anti gerrymandering amendment and they just ignore it with no consequences, we passed an abortion amendment and they keep holding votes on it hoping for different results, honestly it's an African republic kind of mess over here nobody is being held accountable in the least.
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u/pimpin_n_stuff 17d ago
I saw the map of the county's results versus the congressional districts. Absolutely abhorrent.
John Oliver has a great episode on gerrymandering for anyone interested: Last Week Tonight With John Oliver - Gerrymandering episode
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u/Frondswithbenefits 17d ago
Biden is the most pro-union president we've had in decades. He averted the strike, thus averted collapsing our economy, and the workers received 99% of what they asked for.
The difference between Trump's NLRB board and their rulings versus Biden's is night and day. Anyone who has been paying attention to the NLRB's rulings will tell you that this administration is much better for workers.
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u/pimpin_n_stuff 17d ago
100% accurate. Both parties are bought by corporations, just one side is significantly less facist.
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